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Ok...Fai has a lot of fans out there, so I created a topic for him! Why three diff spelling of his name? Well, some manga spell it Fye, dubbers spell it Fai, and other sources spell it Fay!
Names aside, what do you guys think about him?
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to be honest, dont really like him in the 1st two series.. but gradually, seeing him carrying Mokona and forever teasing Kurogane.. it sort of brings out the tenderness and cuteness in him..
i am starting to like him!!
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Series? Do you mean episodes?
I liked him since the beginning...he intrigued me, and I'm also a fan of Kuro-pii/Fai! He may act as though he isn;t serious, and has no worries, but I can see it's just a mask, and how much he carries...*sob*
I love him so much, and desperately wnat a plushi to cuddle. He's *gasp* even almost as good as Syaoran!
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hehe.. yup, as in the anime itself.. i didnt read the manga..
i am still trying to like Kurogane.. but got to say he is cute too.. especially in ep 4, the way he stare and 'play' with Mokona..
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Yeah. But Fai...he's something else entirely....his past is so mysterious, and his smile is so painfully fake...it almost breaks my heart when he does that *drowns in soppiness*
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I like him, he is very strange but still a cool character, my favorite type of character :P. Anyway, I prefer Fye (I pronounce it Fai - Yeh), and its the spelling used in the manga and the subs that I watch.
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I used to like spelling it Fye, then I read the manga - mine spells it Fai. Now I spell it that way! Fai's so cool!
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I am totally obsessed with Fai, and have been from the first book.
Not only is he totally adorable, but he has a VERY mysterious past that I need to know about. Usually the character that is the most humorous has the most to hide. I can't stop wondering exactly what happened in Fai's land before he left.
Why won't he use his magic? Even to save himself?
I love how he cares for the other characters. How he teases Kuro-chi is so cute and funny, adorable and kawaii!
I'm only on chapter 51 right now, so I don't know what's happened up to 78 or so, but I'm waiting for Kuro-chi to confront Fai about his past.
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I like Fye because he is so calm and at the same time has strong mind and heart. Is he from another Clamp's stories? If so I would like to read it as soon as possible. If not I think Clamp could give him a new serie. What do you think?
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Well we have an official spelling for his name now. Ep 5 had it as "Fay" for the commercial break.... that had no commercials. :sweatdrop:
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In the anime it's supposed to be "Fay"
But I really like the way he calls Kurogane all those nicknames! Kuropii......
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He is a new character, he has not appeared in any other CLAMP story but I love the idea of a series completly dedicated to him though I don´t see that really comig true ;_;
<3 him too ^^ *points to avatar and sig* (my journal is now full with Fai comments here and there xD) I found the character interesting since Hanshin but started liking him more since Koriyo, then completly adored him at Outou when Mokona tells him to be really happy not just faking. Always loved characters who are much more than what they seem and Fye sure falls into that category. He is most of the times carefree and silly but I agree that´s because he is acting and trying to hide some not so bright feelings. I´m guesing he doesn´t want to use his magic because without the tatoo he can´t controll his own powers.
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***I´m guesing he doesn´t want to use his magic because without the tatoo he can´t controll his own powers.***
I have a suspicion that Fai won't use his powers because of something that happened in his country before he left. I think that's when he decided never to use his magic again (after sending himself to Yuuko).
Or maybe he is just afraid his powers would be out of control. I think it's more than that though.
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I like Fye because he is so calm and at the same time has strong mind and heart. Is he from another Clamp's stories? If so I would like to read it as soon as possible. If not I think Clamp could give him a new serie. What do you think?
Nope, he's an original character, as far as I know
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I have a suspicion that Fai won't use his powers because of something that happened in his country before he left. I think that's when he decided never to use his magic again (after sending himself to Yuuko).
Or maybe he is just afraid his powers would be out of control. I think it's more than that though.
Maybe both things. Remember the bodies outside (or was it inside? ...) the castle in Celes (manga), I´m not sure if there´s a war or something in there but I get the idea Fai was involed in the country´s happenings, he was court wizard after all, and even when I never get the idea he would like harming people, maybe he was forced/deceived into it.
About magic I still remember at Koriyo, when the group asked for Yuuko´s help to enter the castle which was protected by a spell, Yuuko´s first response was "you don´t have to ask me, Fai can use magic", he starts saying he gave her his tattoo but Yuuko interupts stating that the tattoo was just a source of magic to stop other magic, not the main source of his powers, but he still replies he has decided to stop using magic without it. (I´m taking this from scanlations, but I hope it´s not far from Del Rey´s version) That´s why I´m almost sure he keeps on trying not to use magic because otherwise something bad might hapen. Still I think eventually we will see him using it, either by loosing controll or developing stronger bonds towards his companions and trying to save them.
Also I´m surprised no one has ever asked him how he knew about the existance of Yuuko and if he knows more about her. We know Yukito and Tomoyo did know where to send Shaoran, Sakura and Kurogane in order to go around different worlds. When they arrived to the witch´s place they didn´t know who the woman was, but Fai on the other hand is the only one who transported himself by his own means (that´s the last time we see him use magic in fact) meaning he did know who she was and what she could do.
waaa, I also want so bad to know more about this character.
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he surely looks cool in Ep 5.. if i am Primera-chan.. i rather make friends with Fye than Shogo-san.. *lol*
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Off-topic:
Sorry...if I've mistaken, is this a discussion for the name? or Fye??? *confused* I'm not sure what to say ><
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^ It's a discussion topic for everything about him. Ruby just included all of his different name spellings in the topic title. :sweatdrop:
Actually, I think it would be much better if we have one official discussion thread for each character rather than just one topic for all characters. That way we can focus more on each character. :wink:
Anyway, I like Fai (I just prefer that spelling...dunno why) because he's funny when he and Mokona teases Kurorin. :lol:
The Fay spelling in episode 5 really looked weird... I never even considered having that spelling before it was shown in the anime. Next thing we know, there'll be about a hundred variations of Fai's name! :rotfl:
But, no offense to those who prefer "Fay" but it really looks like a girl's name to me when it's spelled like that. -_-
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I've seen it spelled as "Fai" usually, then "Fye" sometimes, but never "Fay" (until the anime, of course) o.O I prefer to spell it "Fai", since that's what I'm used to ^^.
But I don' t know.... Most of my friends like Fai (except one XD). I, however, do not find him as appealing as Kurogane. It's not that I hate him or anything-- I find him really funny and mysterious-- but something about him turns me off ...
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You say that there's a war going on in his country...but I wonder whether he accidentally did it after losing control of his powers. Maybe that's why he's so afraid to go back, and face Ashura....
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***You say that there's a war going on in his country...but I wonder whether he accidentally did it after losing control of his powers. Maybe that's why he's so afraid to go back, and face Ashura....***
I don't think it's that, but rather maybe he was somehow forced into doing something BY King Ashura.
Being the King's Wizard (which I'm assuming he was) he would be very close to King Ashura. Maybe he was forced or Tricked. I don't know. I just feel like he isn't using his magic because of some great guilt.
Maybe he then realized how out of control King Ashura was and sealed him away with his magic.
Strangely enough, out of all the Tsubasa characters I like and relate to him the most.
Of course I love all of them. And Kuro-pi gets cuter and cuter, but this topic is about Fai, so let's hear more theory!
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I think that Fye is a cool way to spell the name. I really loved his fight with Primera in the Episode 5, the way he talked to her was so kawaii!
I think that everyone that transported the guys to Yuuko's place knew what they were doing, but as I read somewhere, they could do this only one time in life. Since Fye teleported himself, he knew where he was going to land.
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Well Faye and Fay and Fai sound the same but Fye wounds different. Like "die" or "fight".
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when i was watching episode one. Fye referred to Aschura as a "she" in fact like the other characters he meets her counterpart in the Kudan world! That wife lady who looks after Sakura. I also thought he got his tatoo from sealing Aschura, and she must have been quite important to him, but he sealed her with his own hands. So i thought maybe he was running from guilt? From her waking rage?
Anyway!! yeh I Like Fye!!! :okay: hes INTRIGUING, mysterious and so beautiful to watch! I also like Kurorin! And i agree that he develops feelings for Sakura! But he does for the entire group! HE is a grreat Character too! :lol: though all males who see Sakura smile seem to fall in love with her a bit anyway, but i reckon they all feel that Her and Syaoran is PERFECT!!! as they are destined afterall!!! :hello2:
!! ahhh wouldn't it be fantastic to learn more about Fye!
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Fye referred to Aschura as a "she" in fact like the other characters he meets her counterpart in the Kudan world! That wife lady who looks after Sakura.
Isn't that Arashi from X 1999? Not Ashura....anyway, I'm still going on a slight shonen-ai theme. Plus, if you think about this, it relates back to Yuki and Touya too. Like Yukito, Fai has a false smile to hide his pain, and has elements of magic....maybe Ashura is like Touya, and they were friends as King and magician...but let it develop into something more.
As to the sealing...if Ashura got wounded in battle, Fai may have sealed him to save his life. But Ashura may think that Fai betrayed him (like Inuyasha and Kikyo), which could be why Fai's afraid of him now.
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***Fye referred to Aschura as a "she" in fact like the other characters he meets her counterpart in the Kudan world!***
Ashura is a man.
Maybe there was a mistake in the subtitle?
I don't know if Ashura was good or bad in R.G. Veda, but I have the feeling Fai had to seal him away because he feared what he would do.
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I was wondering about the different spellings of his names too. Cuz Fye does seem different in pronunciation than Fai. Fai seems like the English way to spell it though, so is it maybe that Fye really is pronounced Faye in another language, and thats why they translated it like they did? ... i dunno if I make sense.
Anyhoo, I do love Fai sooo much. You can tell that under his playful face he has many secrets. Still, for such a mysterious background (and it seems so dark too), he can make so many jokes and be so lovable. <I especially loved when he gave everyone names in the Country of Oto> ...He's very sexy too, I think (creepy, but yes).
^_^ I havent seen him in the episodes though (because I havent seen any of them), is he different in them? Like, do they change his importance or role any?
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Hmm...to me, Fai seems less..real in the anime. That's a bad description, but that's all I can thikn of. He seems to have less character development, and you don't get as attached to him as you do in the manga.
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***I was wondering about the different spellings of his names too. Cuz Fye does seem different in pronunciation than Fai.***
I don't think the pronunciation is any different. I think changing names from Kana or Kanji to Romaji can be kind of tricky sometimes.
In the books here in the U.S. it was first spelled Fye then changed to Fai.
So that's where those spellings come from. Looks like in Japan, the way to spell it would be Fay, but I'm not sure why really. Seems like they would be more likely to use the Fai spelling. I don't think I see too many words where they use a y in place of i.
***Hmm...to me, Fai seems less..real in the anime. That's a bad description, but that's all I can thikn of. He seems to have less character development, and you don't get as attached to him as you do in the manga.***
That's how I feel too, Ruby Chan.
I hope that we see more character developement for him in the anime soon.
Until then, I just fill it in myself, since I fell in love with him in the Manga first anyway! :O)
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In the Anime they spell it Fye and I think that's sounds much better, or?
It's the right name for a so cool guy!!!
Fye-san 4-ever!!!^^
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as far as i know [fai] is a spell from the original and i've never heard about spell [fay]
i prefer spell [fye] coz it sound coool !! XD
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***In the Anime they spell it Fye and I think that's sounds much better, or?***
Actually, in the anime they spell it Fay.
If you see the eyecatch for him in one of the episodes, they've spelled it Fay.
So I guess that's the Official spelling. I'm sticking to Fai though, it's so kawaii, and makes more sense to me. :O)
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I prefer the spelling Fai, as it's how I first got to know him.
Does anyone know if/when Ashura is def going to wake up and come after Fai?
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I m a big fai fan and i prefer that spelling. won't Fay be read as Day.
Somehow fai's character seems somewhat similar to yuki's. both smile a lot and both had more to show than was told earlier. similarly toya is somwhat like kuropuu. Rarely smile, very serious.
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I was just thinking that today! Although I thought about Fai and Yukito earlier, when I postend that up on a baord about similar aniem characters.
But yeah, Kuro-pii is just like Touya! And if you're a shonen-ai lover....
Yukito and Touya....SO
Fai and Kurogane!
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Yes i thought that is where Fai+Kurogane fans got that idea coz there isn't anything like that in the anime or manga, is there?
Actually when i saw TRC poster for the first time i thought (just like many other ppl) that it was just a nicelly made fanart and in that for a long time i kept thinking that they were yukito and toya. Untill i joined this forum and got 2 know a lot more about TRC.
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I saw the scans of when the ganga drop into that world with Ashura-ou today...poor Fai goes so pale...and he shows a true side of him when he says about how Kurogane is more observant than he thought...he looks very shifty.
Gasp! Would Fai betray the gang to keep away from Ashura?
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***I saw the scans of when the ganga drop into that world with Ashura-ou today...poor Fai goes so pale...and he shows a true side of him when he says about how Kurogane is more observant than he thought...he looks very shifty.***
Ruby Chan, I LOVE that part!
I am reluctant to admit it, but Fai and Kurogane are probably what is making me the craziest about Tsubasa! I want to know what happens SO bad.
I knew that Clamp wouldn't let us down the moment I saw Kurogane pull out his sword on Fai. At that moment we know that Kurogane knows whats up with Fai, but isn't sure what to do about it.
***Gasp! Would Fai betray the gang to keep away from Ashura?***
Betray? I doubt it.
Run..maybe. I think Kurogane has his eye on him though.
Fai's obviously not afraid of what Ashura will do to him physically, but
mentally is another story.
I so wish I knew what happened between them.
And what about all that time Kurogane and Fai have spent together?
Those months alone.
Who knows if maybe they bonded?
Maybe that is time those two characters needed to become trusting of eachother.
Well, somewhat anyway.
And when Ashura comes, if Fai just gives himself up out of guilt or whatever, will Kurogane protect him?
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Probably....He got all upset before when Fai got hurt, didn't he? As for bonding...sad, but doubtful. They couldn't speak, remember?
Perhaps betray is too strong a word...but it's very likely that Fai would run, and the gang would have to search thatworld to find him...then when he's found, he could tell the stroy of what REALLY happened.
I agree...it's not the pyshical thing he's afraid of...more the mental, I'd guess.
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Fai is love. :haha: I wanna see more of him and learn more about him and care about him. ^^
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Sakaki came up with the idea of the group arriving in Fai's world, and him being all scared, and wanting to run. I can just see his paniced expression, and how his mask crumbles away for the first time....
I love Fai so much, prob because he has such a painful and mysterious past. By the way...do you guys think he's really as nice as he seems, or does he maybe have a colder/more viscious side too?
It could come out during a fight with Ashura...and maybe CLAMP will finally do some flashbacks of his past?
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for me, i always thought Fye is always as nice as he seems.. they need someone in the group to boost the morale and cheer everyone up..
Kurogane is tough and quiet,
Syaoran is serious and quiet,
Sakura is shy and quiet..
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***I love Fai so much, prob because he has such a painful and mysterious past. By the way...do you guys think he's really as nice as he seems, or does he maybe have a colder/more viscious side too?***
I definately think he has a colder side.
Kurogane comments on the fact that Fai is a combat vetern. He'd have to have a colder side.
The ease with which he hits the Oni with the dart blades. He has no hesitation.
***It could come out during a fight with Ashura...and maybe CLAMP will finally do some flashbacks of his past?***
Maybe he'd finally have to use his magic in order to save Kurogane from Ashura?
If Ashura attacked Kuro-chi Fai could snap.
***or me, i always thought Fye is always as nice as he seems.. they need someone in the group to boost the morale and cheer everyone up..***
Oh, I think Fai is as nice as he seems. I don't think his kindness is an act, but I do think that out of all of them he is the most secretive with a side that perhaps only Kurogane can sense.
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I'm bringing this back to the more recent posts, as more people are posting about Fai in the character discussion topic...so here you go!
And a mute Fai, Sakaki? Interesting. I can just imagine the expression. A slightly helpless expression, slightly wider eyes....mouth shut for once....
Too kawaii! I wanna huggle him!
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***And a mute Fai, Sakaki? Interesting. I can just imagine the expression. A slightly helpless expression, slightly wider eyes....mouth shut for once....***
Poor Fai!
The thing is, I can see it cleary.
I'm so much like Fai, and I think that's the first thing I would do, go silent.
They would have a hard time dragging Fai back out from himself.
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Yup! He'd just wonder around eye downcast...when they first got there, he could have gone into shock, and gone mute, staring at nothing....and Kurogane would have shaken him, and Mokona would have started jumping round him...but to no affect. Then a silent tear trickles down his cheeks and he drops to his knees whispering 'Ashura-ou....'
Begin flashbacks!
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And what finally wakes him from his mute state..
Kuro-chan is in mortal danger from Ashura and only Fai's magic can save him.
Are you listening, Clamp?!
Lol, actually they tend to have things go exactly how I want them to.
Strangely enough.
I really wanted to see Kuro-chi carry Fai, and we got that.
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Renamed the topic...considering how many people love Fai, not many were posting, so I wondered whether they thought it was a discussion about his NAME.
Seriously, I think CLAMP might actually give Fai and Kurogane a relationship. Or at the very least, show flashbacks that make it very obvious that Fai and Ashura were together, with Fai loving Ashura so much, but the love not returned.
(Heh..listening to morning moon from the TRC OST right now, and to me it just makes me think of an upset Fai, staring hurtfully at Ashura)
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Love your new title, Ruby Chan.
It fits Fai so well.
***eriously, I think CLAMP might actually give Fai and Kurogane a relationship. Or at the very least, show flashbacks that make it very obvious that Fai and Ashura were together, with Fai loving Ashura so much, but the love not returned.***
I so hope that you are right.
Clamp rarely disappoints me though.
***(Heh..listening to morning moon from the TRC OST right now, and to me it just makes me think of an upset Fai, staring hurtfully at Ashura)***
I'm off to listen to that now!
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Don't you just love the tagline from chapter 25? The one where I took my avy and sig Fai picture from?
The fugitive of the other world... hidden behind a smiling facade, the reason for this sorrowful journey...
So Fai!
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The fugitive of the other world... hidden behind a smiling facade, the reason for this sorrowful journey...
It's strange that they take those off when they put the books out here.
The words are always so important.
Would anyone want to put up the quotes from the chapter openings?
I know I haven't read some of them from the first few books because I bought the books instead of downloading the chapters.
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http://angelic.opaque-waters.net/tsubasa/manga/taglines.php
Angelic Essence has them up here. Sigh...Has anyone noticed that in most of CLAMP'S arty pictures, Fai either looks sad or sly? I wish they had one of him REALLY smiling.
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Thanks Ruby Chan!
Now I can see all the quotes I've been missing.
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Hmm...I thought we had a lot of Fai fans out there?! Come on people, post! LOL
Just a thought...maybe Fai could be one of Sakura's feathers? Ashura could have found him, and decided to use him as a weapon...maybe that's why Fai is so sad?
(By the way, this is my idea, so steal and you DIE! I know very well that I'm the first to have this idea so hands off - it will be in a fanfic soon!)
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Have you seen the cover for volume 11 of CLAMP kiseki? http://www.clamp15th.com/book/index.html :inlove: Wai~ Fai and Kuro-wan...so awsome!
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That's so adorable!
Don't you just love how Fai is leaning on Kuro-chan!!
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Ah, such a cool picture! They look like vampires in those clothes. XD
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Ah, such a cool picture! They look like vampires in those clothes. XD
Ooooooh, you just gave me an awesome idea for a story or roleplay!
Fai as a vampire who comes to claim Kurogane and turn him into one too!!
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Fai looks so good in that pic! Sigh...I wish there were as many Fai pics as S+S ones.....
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Fai looks so good in that pic! Sigh...I wish there were as many Fai pics as S+S ones....
Me too.
I'm using Okamirei's signature now as my inspiration for my Evil Fai!
Muhahahahahaha!!!
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ano...I'm glad to help? :sweatdrop:
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He actually does look quite evil there.....but then again, although I love Fai to bits, I can't help wondering if CLAMP will show an angry biter side to him one day...the smug smirks and lidded eyes kinda indicates that.
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Fai....what can I say..I LOVE FAI!!! I like the way he always has that optomistic additude and what not. Espicelly his eyes ^^ Go Fai!!
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You know, I'd never have guessed, with a username like yours!
Hmm......I don't know what it is about Fai that intrigues me so. I started TRC fully expecting to have Syaoran as my fav character, like in CCS. But then we met Fai, and I fell in love on the spot.
In a way, I think Fai's happier when he's not smiling...do you know what I mean?
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In a way, I think Fai's happier when he's not smiling...do you know what I mean?
I understand what you mean.
Many times his smile is only covering his pain.
Just a reflex to throw everyone off.
Only when he smiles for real........
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Fai is pretty cool, i like him...especially his hair!!
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But I think he's a little bit happier since he met Syaoran and co and go with them...
Since Outo and his talk with Mokona his smile seems more real..
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Yes but he's still hiding. Even though Kurogane is figuring him out, he refuses to say anything about his past and Ashura. His smiles may be gaining relevance, but Fai still has a long way to go before he becomes a complete person again.
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I think that at some point there should just be at least one episode pertaining to Fai's past. It may be a misprint, but volume one actually says that Fai is the ruler of Seresu (Celes). Something else that may have been forgotten, is that he told Chi to infom him if Ashura wakes. This leads me to believe that somethink will be revealed long before he has to return to his own world.
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I think that at some point there should just be at least one episode pertaining to Fai's past. It may be a misprint, but volume one actually says that Fai is the ruler of Seresu (Celes).
Oh, Clamp won't forget about Fai.........we'll get more.
And I believe Chii calling Fai, "King" was a huge misprint. Among other mistakes
I am now being made aware of.
I got book six, and they garbled up the part where Fai and Kuro talk in the bar pretty badly.
They also changed part of what Kuro says when he has to share a room with Fai in Hanshin.
Hmm....I think I now like the online translations better.
At least they are making an attempt to keep the meaning the same.
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I do hope Chii returns to play a bigger part eventually. I find her relationship with Fai interesting... in a companion/pet type of way. I doubt there's any romance going on like in Chobits. But I think Fai may have an attachment to her, like she's the only real friend he's ever had (before Syaoran-tachi, of course). I also think it'd be cute to see the gang's (especially Kuro-chan's) reaction to seeing Chii. ^__^
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I find her relationship with Fai interesting... in a companion/pet type of way.
That's what I think too.
I think she's like a friend/pet.
She seems more like a pet, how he pats her head and such and she doesn't seem to be
extremely bright in a normal human type of way. I also don't think Fai would have left
her there in danger if he had a deeper relationship with her.
I wonder about that part. He did leave her there, and I have the feeling when Ashura wakes up
she is going to be in danger.
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I think that as she's blocking Ashura's exit, Chii will end up destroyed by the dark haired king...and that will add even more guilt onto Fai's shoulders. He may have a slight breakdown, or he could feel her injuries before she's destroyed.
Heh...anyone who's read a certain fanfic about Smiles will recognise that scene.
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I don't imagine Ashura being all that interested in Chii, but I think he would use her to get to Fai if he could. And I think Fai would feel guilty if she were hurt, like Ruby Chan said.
And this is totally random, but I happened to look up the name Fay on a baby names site, and it means "fairy" or "elf". Heh... I think it kind of suits Fai's lightness and mystery. I wonder if CLAMP knew that?? XD
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I do hope Chii returns to play a bigger part eventually. I find her relationship with Fai interesting... in a companion/pet type of way. I doubt there's any romance going on like in Chobits. But I think Fai may have an attachment to her, like she's the only real friend he's ever had (before Syaoran-tachi, of course).
I hope to see Chii again too!
In an odd way, I sort of find Fai a little like Yue O_O. Okay, Fai and Yue's personalities are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, but both of them are hiding some sort of pain with something else. In Yue's case, he covers up his pain with cold, emotionless expressions, and in Fai's case, he covers up his pain with tons and tons of smiles.
I really really want to know about Fai's past.
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And this is totally random, but I happened to look up the name Fay on a baby names site, and it means "fairy" or "elf". Heh... I think it kind of suits Fai's lightness and mystery. I wonder if CLAMP knew that?? XD
Probably....they put a lot of thought inot choosing their names most of the time, as it can alter how a story is told, or their background scenes (eg, cherry blossoms for Sakura). And I think that Fai really is elflike, so it sort of suits his personality.
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I definatly think the name is not an accident. I also think that Clamp may have had a special reason for choosing Chii. Somehow I am convinced that Ashura has the power to come after Fai. I think that the next time we see him, it will not be in Celes. As for Chii's fate, I think it depends on what Fai turned her into. I really couldn't tell what she was. (Maybe a fancy alarm system?) :confused:
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Fai turned her into a sort of net I think, that spread across the pool. She's probably a cross between a barrier, and an alarm to warn Fai that Ashura's waking up/escaping.
I think that this could be one reason why Fai, whilst running, doesn't seem to be so paranoid that he continually looks over his shoulder. He trusts Chii to warn him before danger comes in the form of Ashura.
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I wonder how she's going to warn him...will it be like telepathy?
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That seems very likely, since Fai was not sure of where he was going to be when Ashura wakes.
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think that as she's blocking Ashura's exit, Chii will end up destroyed by the dark haired king...and that will add even more guilt onto Fai's shoulders.
Yeah, I kind of think that could very well happen.
Ashura would probably just destroy everything in his path when he breaks free.
And Fai will know......
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Fai turned her into a sort of net I think, that spread across the pool. She's probably a cross between a barrier, and an alarm to warn Fai that Ashura's waking up/escaping.
I agree. Whatever Fai turned Chii into didn't look very strong. So yea I also think that Ashura will break through Chii. But you never know just quite what will happen in their crazy adventures...
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I really don't think that Clamp would have chosen a character as popular as Chii, just to be immediatly destroyed. I think that Chii will play an important role when the spotlight shifts back to Celes.
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What do you think will he ever again use magic?I was wondering what kind of power is it it must be very strong.
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What do you think will he ever again use magic?I was wondering what kind of power is it it must be very strong.
Well, it's my own personal opinion that he will use magic again.
That he will use it possibly to save Kurogane at some point.
I think perhaps that is the only thing that would get him to use it.
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good theory ! ...
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Just like in the cracked smiles?
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Thatd'd be cool if you predicted it almost exactly!
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Just like in the cracked smiles?
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Thatd'd be cool if you predicted it almost exactly!
GOD I hope that happens! *wide puppy dog eyes at Sakaki* Sakaki-saaannn..... Send CLAMP the Cracked Smiles RP and tell them to go to Celes in the next chapter cuz you already wrote the perfect script for them.... All they gotta do is draw it... Pleeeasseeee Sakaki-saaannn....
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I agree, Fai will only use his magic to save Kurogane or to protect him from Ashura, if that creep ever turns up again. Safe to say, it's going to play an important part in my fanfic! Cracked Smiles just seemed to have the right idea about that, in my view.....
I think that unless Ashura comes to them, Fai will probably use his magic in none other than Seresu.
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Akaiyuki-chan ! So halerious the way you say that ! .. Kawaii !
But It would be soo cool if the next chapter was that !
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Akaiyuki-chan ! So halerious the way you say that ! .. Kawaii !
But It would be soo cool if the next chapter was that !
Kyaaa! *blush* Hori-san called me kawaiiiiiii... (Yes that would be a great next-chappi, ne?)
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( Hai hai )
Please.. call me Hori-chan ^_^
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Just like in the cracked smiles?
Thatd'd be cool if you predicted it almost exactly!
I think I'd be a little scared!
Actually, that would be pretty strange if they suddenly arrived in Fai's world and it went remotely like what we wrote! I think I'd faint.
I think we wrote it how we pictured it really happening though.
I know I did Fai's part that way. Imagining how he would react, and feeling
his emotions...
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( Hai hai )
Please.. call me Hori-chan ^_^
OK, Hori-chan! You can call me Yuki or Yuki-chan if you'd like! ^__^[
I think I'd be a little scared!
Actually, that would be pretty strange if they suddenly arrived in Fai's world and it went remotely like what we wrote! I think I'd faint.
I think we wrote it how we pictured it really happening though.
I know I did Fai's part that way. Imagining how he would react, and feeling
his emotions...
Kyaa! You'd FAINT?! You couldn't becuase if you did and they made in episode about it you wouldn't be able to see it!!! *gets a bucket of cold water ready just in case* Well, I guess you wouldn't be passed out for that long... Cuz you'd faint when they put it in the manga... *fans Sakaki with the manga pages instead*[/color]
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hai hai Yuki-chan
:haha:
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I think I'd be a little scared!
Actually, that would be pretty strange if they suddenly arrived in Fai's world and it went remotely like what we wrote! I think I'd faint.
I think we wrote it how we pictured it really happening though.
I know I did Fai's part that way. Imagining how he would react, and feeling
his emotions...
i dont think they will return to their original world so soon? hmm.. or probably to either one in the final episode..
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Fye/Fai/Fay is awesome XD
He's cool...heheh.......
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Fye/Fai/Fay is awesome XD
He's cool...heheh.......
Yes he is. ^__^ I love him. However I have my own solution to his name issue.. *points under name* Heh heh.. XD
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i have a question,what do you think what would happen to Fye in the end?i l think he woud not live happily ever after. i think he and kurogane might die. it woud be so sad!(i love tragic endings and heros)
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i have a question,what do you think what would happen to Fye in the end?i l think he woud not live happily ever after. i think he and kurogane might die. it woud be so sad!(i love tragic endings and heros)
O.o..... N-no that CAN'T happen! NOOOO! AHHHHH! *calms down* Ahem, actually... A lot of people are thinking that could happen... I am just praying against it, becuase so far Fai is my only surviving favorite character in anime/manga history. However, if Fai DOES die, (god forbid) I hope it's doing something cute. Like protecting everyone from Ashura... (Or.. heh heh, protecting KUROGANE in particular, from Ashura.. Heh heh... *cough*) But yes, I agree. Even if he doesn't die, I'll doubt CLAMP will let him live happily. It's just the CLAMP way, the most lovable characters are the ones that get tortured.... It's just... the way CLAMP is... *sigh* Sadly... But all us CLAMP fans must be masochists, cuz we all keep comin' back for more! XD (Anyway, me loves your username, here's a cookie!)
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Thank you! I also think it woud be the best that he dies protecting others(using magic?)I woud be so sad!
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It would be a sad ending, but in a sweet type of sad way! And I love that kind of thing! Although I want Fai Fai to live, I guess I wouldn't totally hate that ending... Because of how cute it would be, but if it happened, Kurorin better show some SERIOUS mourning..
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Like I said in the Character Discussion topic, it's highly likely that Fai will die in the end...whether quickly from a wound or something simialr, or a slow death that he manages to hide from everyone until it's to late - maybe an effect of using his magic without a tattoo.
It would make me cry, but I can't help wanting an ending like that for Fai. If he can't have a happy one, he should have a really good death scene, and not just fade away.
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noooo...i don't want fai to die!! but he seems the most likely to, since he has no real goal to reach; he's just running from ashura... but if he does, then i agree with yuki-chan: kurogane better break down. in a way i can't wait for the ending of tsubasa, and many ways i can.
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I like Fay very much he looks so calm so seren and I dont get why whould smone die and more why he has to be Fay-chan
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noooo...i don't want fai to die!! but he seems the most likely to, since he has no real goal to reach; he's just running from ashura... but if he does, then i agree with yuki-chan: kurogane better break down. in a way i can't wait for the ending of tsubasa, and many ways i can.
OMG, I didn't think about that! He DOES seem very likely to die because of that! I mean, everyone has a goal 'cept him. Sakura needs all of her memories back, Syao Syao wants to get all of her memories, Kurorin wants to return home, but Fai's request is a never-ending one! O.O Nooo! *cries* He'll just keep running and running and running until... *grins* Hmm.. what if Ashura dies? Then Fai won't have to! Bwa ha ha, Fear not, Fai! I shall sacrifice Ashura for you, my love! No no, lemme rephrase that... for you, Kuro's love! Bwa ha ha!!! Time to prepare the sacrifice!
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huumm....hopefully that won't happen!! but now i know yuki-chan or "otou-san" will be there to help fai! ^__^
i really should read rg veda to see what ashura's personality is like...unless someone on here can tell me? ^.^ is he really cold and manipulating like i've seen in lots of fanfics?
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I don't know if he's really "manipulating"... He's just a man-wh*re... XD Really... I mean he *is*... But.... erm... I'm not very good at this... But he isn't exactly *nice*... He's just.. emotionless...
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haauu! @_@ he doesn't sound like a very pleasant person... poor fai!! T__T
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haauu! @_@ he doesn't sound like a very pleasant person... poor fai!! T__T
True... He's very war-happy, as well.. And generally only cares about himself..
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leave the killing of Ashura to me... but what if Fay find a special someone and fall in love and stay in her world ;)
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leave the killing of Ashura to me... but what if Fay find a special someone and fall in love and stay in her world ;)
Yeah, he does have that girl and her name is Kurogane! XD
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Yeah, he does have that girl and her name is Kurogane! XD
"her"!! XD kurogane as a girl...
if fai stayed in kurogane's world, they'd have to live with mokona too... unless fai has hidden powers of translation...O_o
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"her"!! XD kurogane as a girl...
if fai stayed in kurogane's world, they'd have to live with mokona too... unless fai has hidden powers of translation...O_o
in the manga, where Fye and Kurogane were in Shurano.. they lived there for 6 months without Mokona.. so i guess, with or without Mokona.. they can live together with no problems..
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in the manga, where Fye and Kurogane were in Shurano.. they lived there for 6 months without Mokona.. so i guess, with or without Mokona.. they can live together with no problems..
oh yeah!! i forgot about that! aww that makes it even more cute...they can live together without speech as the only way for communicating. ^^
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yup! plus Fye is so good at drawing.. if in any case, he has a problem.. at least he still can draw pictures.. *lol*
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oh yeah!! i forgot about that! aww that makes it even more cute...they can live together without speech as the only way for communicating. ^^
Awwwe, I know! It was so cute! XD I wish CLAMP would write even a one-chapter side story of what it was like for them.. I mean, they didn't even get a SINGLE page! >_<
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Isn't that Arashi from X 1999? Not Ashura....anyway, I'm still going on a slight shonen-ai theme. Plus, if you think about this, it relates back to Yuki and Touya too. Like Yukito, Fai has a false smile to hide his pain, and has elements of magic....maybe Ashura is like Touya, and they were friends as King and magician...but let it develop into something more.
As to the sealing...if Ashura got wounded in battle, Fai may have sealed him to save his life. But Ashura may think that Fai betrayed him (like Inuyasha and Kikyo), which could be why Fai's afraid of him now.
***Fye referred to Aschura as a "she" in fact like the other characters he meets her counterpart in the Kudan world!***
Ashura is a man.
Maybe there was a mistake in the subtitle?
I don't know if Ashura was good or bad in R.G. Veda, but I have the feeling Fai had to seal him away because he feared what he would do.
Um, well, I haven't actuall read any of RG Veda, but I've heard a lot about it, and Ashura was, to my knowledge, good, in RG Veda. (note: TokyoPop is translating RG Veda, but I've yet to get it. It's one of the series next on my list). Which, if Ashura is absolutely evil in Tsubasa, would be extremely interesting. With all the crossovers characters that we've had in Tsubasa, to have Ashura be evil would be the biggest change Clamp has done to the crossover characters. Yet, if Ashura isn't evil, then why, pardon my French, is Fai scared shitless of him? Something that Ashura did has made Fai desperate enough to turn traitor to his country and give up the entirety of his previous life.
And as for the question of Ashura's gender... Well, Tsubasa is calling him Ashura-ou (King Ashura), so Ashura is clearly male in Tsubasa, but from everything I've read about RG Veda, Clamp's original Ashura was completely androgynous- s/he had no gender whatsoever. Interesting.
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I don't know if he's really "manipulating"... He's just a man-wh*re... XD Really... I mean he *is*... But.... erm... I'm not very good at this... But he isn't exactly *nice*... He's just.. emotionless...
Have you read RG Veda, then? Because, actually, that contradicts what I've read about Ashura in RG Veda. GAHH! I need to read RG Veda NOW! Damn money and my lack thereof.
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Have you read RG Veda, then? Because, actually, that contradicts what I've read about Ashura in RG Veda. GAHH! I need to read RG Veda NOW! Damn money and my lack thereof.
Maybe the Ashura you've read about was about the cute reincarnation of Ashura... *is confused* I've only read the first two volumes, and I don't know much about the older Ashura-ou, but the little Ashura was all goodness...
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Maybe the Ashura you've read about was about the cute reincarnation of Ashura... *is confused* I've only read the first two volumes, and I don't know much about the older Ashura-ou, but the little Ashura was all goodness...
Wait, do you mean Ashura-Ou as in Ashura's father in RG Veda? Or do you mean the Ashura that's the main character?
Little Ashura was all goodness? So then Ashura *is* good in RG Veda? Because before Yuki's comment about Ashura being a man-whore, I'd only ever heard good things about Ashura in RG Veda.
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Wait, do you mean Ashura-Ou as in Ashura's father in RG Veda? Or do you mean the Ashura that's the main character?
Little Ashura was all goodness? So then Ashura *is* good in RG Veda? Because before Yuki's comment about Ashura being a man-whore, I'd only ever heard good things about Ashura in RG Veda.
Ashura-ou is Ashura's father? Err... either way, yeah, I meant the adult Ashura. ^_^;
Little Ashura has been goodness... so far at least. And I've only read up to the second volume. >_< Yuki-chan's probably gotten farther than me in RG Veda. I think when she was saying that he was a manwhore, she was referring to the adult Ashura, not the little one; the little one is most likely the one that you've heard good things about.
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I think I need to read more of the series to find out! :haha:
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Ashura-ou is Ashura's father? Err... either way, yeah, I meant the adult Ashura. ^_^;
Little Ashura has been goodness... so far at least. And I've only read up to the second volume. >_< Yuki-chan's probably gotten farther than me in RG Veda. I think when she was saying that he was a manwhore, she was referring to the adult Ashura, not the little one; the little one is most likely the one that you've heard good things about.
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I think I need to read more of the series to find out! :haha:
From what I remember, Ashura's father is RG Veda was also called Ashura, and was a god-king, so he was called Ashura-Ou, also. That's what I meant. Though I think Ashura's father Ashura-Ou is dead pretty early on in the manga. I need to read it, too.
So, now the question goes back to you, Yuki. Have you read more of RG Veda? Does Ashura become a man-whore/****? Is he a manipulative bastard?
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Since this is more just about Ashura and not Fai,
we should move this discussion about Ashura to his actual thread:
http://www.capturedwings.net/forums/index.php?topic=484.0
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i suppose i should post my theory about Fai? Well, i'm sure it's been used already but...
I'm guessing that Ashura and Fai did have a relationship. (aka lovers) And that Ashura really was a good king.
However, remember how feathers can travel through time too? I think Ashura found a feather, which slowly started to turn him evil. Hence, he started killing off random civilians who he found suspicious. Perhaps he became a bit paranoid, that someone would take the feather away from him again.
Ofcourse, the people from Ceres would not stand for that. They started a revolution. Now, let us go back to the chapter where we first see Fai. Ceres country is destroyed and littered with bodies. Obviously, Ashura found out about the revolution and attacked all those people before they even reached the castle.
Now, Ashura's feelings for Fai were buried deep in his heart. Meaning that Ashura still trusted him, and never thought of killing him. Fai however, felt he had to take action (even though most of the people were already dead. Perhaps even all of them) but did not want to kill Ashura either. Hence, he decided to seal Ashura in that coffin, and let Chii keep watch over him. He left the world of Ceres because he was scared that if Ashura were to wake up, he would kill him too. (Only logical aint it? You seal a murderous king in a pond, that's like running around in a pen of bulls wearing nothing but red underwear.)
Fai ofcourse, didn't know about the feather. Ashura kept the damn thing to himself. Probably hid it somewhere.
So... that's my theory. I based an entire fanfic on that... ^^'
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Meowzy, thanks to you, now I'll have the image of Fai running around in red underwear stuck with me all day. XD
If there was a war on Celes I have a feeling Fai was not completely innocent. There's something in his expression that just screams 'guilty conscience', and I don't know if its just because he sealed Ashura. I think Fai might even have figured out that Ashura had a feather, but he's not saying anything yet because he doesn't want to go back. That's part of my theories. ^^;
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Heheheheh... red underwear...
Guilty consciense eh? hmm...
"Really Ashura? You found some strange item that enhances your magical abilities? That sounds nice. You should totally use it without restraint."
or maybe...
"Help! the people are revolting! Ashura, you must stop them!"
*kaboom* *eathquake* *death/murder*
"Not like that!" O_O
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I, too think that Fai is not entirely innocent. I think that Ashura started to turn evil at some point. Fai knew in his heart that Ashura was abusing his power, but because he loved Ashura he went along with Ashura's methods and goals, even using his magic powers to help, until it came to the point that Fai could no longer blind himself to the evil Ashura was committing. (I like to think that Chi had something to do with his realization.) Once Fai could no longer fool himself and could not live with what Ashura was doing, he was forced to rebel. Now he has to deal with the guilt of what he himself did for Ashura and for betraying his country by allowing Ashura to abuse his power, and probably some guilt for betraying Ashura since he did love Ashura and Ashura was his king. Guilt's irrational like that.
I'd never though about Ashura having a feather.... Interesting thought. And what with all the time traveling stuff that was thrown in the Shurano/Sharano storyline, it's entirely possible. But I disagree about the feather turning Ashura evil... The feathers don't turn anyone evil; they never have. When people have abused the power of the feathers, it's because the power of the feather gave them the ability to indulge their selfish, power-hungry side. It has never been because the feathers created that selfish side of a person.
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****But I disagree about the feather turning Ashura evil... The feathers don't turn anyone evil; they never have. When people have abused the power of the feathers, it's because the power of the feather gave them the ability to indulge their selfish, power-hungry side. It has never been because the feathers created that selfish side of a person.****
You're probably right, LadyUltima-san... :hello2: when a person gained something powerful, they become corrupt & evil (umm. is that the right word?). Just like the presidents in our country...(Damn! I shoudn't say such things to my country... gomenasai! :sweatdrop: :heh: ) Maybe, Ashura-ou has just been carried away by the feather's power and became evil. The feather can't make a person evil because the feather is still from sakura and we all know that sakura has a very pure heart which means, the feather is also pure. It's just tainted by someone who has an evil will.
As for the character discussion, When I first saw TRC in the net I already liked the big-kitty... I don't know why but there's something in him that makes me like him... Maybe it's his mysterious past and his mask... I like those kind of characters and once again I don't know why... Maybe because I can relate myself to them... Also, I like the way Fai-san controls his emotions... ummm.. being cold and have the guts to smile in a dangerous situation...
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I LOVE FYE, i love his smile (http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c227/p_r_e_t_t_y/kao145.gif) and, as -=kuro_woof= , i like the way he can control his emotions. i love all about him. :inlove:
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c227/p_r_e_t_t_y/fye/fyesmile.png)
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Hi!
I have been reading the differents theories about Fye that you guys have here. There are some interesting ones.
Someone said something about Fye having a 'guilty conscience'. I have to agree with that, is just his expression when someody try to talk with him about his past. He had really big isues back in ceres.
But whatever it is I just love the character of Fye, he is so mysterious and a nice person. And I like the way he knows everything but just act like a foul.
Well that is my opinion. BYE
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What age do you think Fye is? I know that Kuro-chin's age is estimated at around 20, but Fye acts so much more older at times, and like a child the rest of the time. But I can't imagine him to be just 19/20. Your opinions?
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What age do you think Fye is? I know that Kuro-chin's age is estimated at around 20, but Fye acts so much more older at times, and like a child the rest of the time. But I can't imagine him to be just 19/20. Your opinions?
Hmmm... I've talked about this with a couple people now. I don't believe Kuro is that
young. I mean really, there are times in the anime that the man looks 40 years old. Weird.
And Clamp is screwy with ages.
I think Kuro is at least 28. And I've always just been certain that Fai
is a little older than Kuro. Maybe a year and a half, or maybe just six months older.
Well, because Fai's birthday is January 1st and Kuro's is July 1st. Exactly six months apart.
Okay, yeah, I made that up. XD But it just fits... Fai would be winter, Kuro would be summer. And I have a whole script made up for when Fai finds out he's older. XD
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28? Makes sense, but it's still almost too mature an age for Kuro. But I agree, Fye is definitely older by a year or so.
Y'think? I've always pictured Kuro as more of an autumn person, October at the latest. After all, reds become him!
*shoots self*
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28? Makes sense, but it's still almost too mature an age for Kuro. But I agree, Fye is definitely older but a year or so.
Y'think? I've always pictured Kuro as more of an autumn person, October at the latest. After all, reds become him!
*shoots self*
28 really isn't that mature though, lol!
I still like the winter/summer thing, but yeah, I totally agree Kuro looks nice in red, but
he also looks nice out under the hot sun wearing nothing but... ^__^
Fai just seems winter to me because of his coloring and such, and I wanted to keep them
at opposites, since that is what's pulled them together, yin and yang.
*Now is picturing Fai and Kuro wrestling around in the autumn leaves* XD
Arigatou for this image, Quimmy!
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28 is still a long way away for me, so a kiddo like me thinks it's old!
Ah, here's an image for you! Fye, a bottle of sun-lotion and a grumpy, sun-burned Kurogane.
Fye is most definitely a January. But Celes is up North, isn't it? So it'd be Winter all the time. Never mind!
You're very welcome! :D
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28 is still a long way away for me, so a kiddo like me thinks it's old!
Ah, here's an image for you! Fye, a bottle of sun-lotion and a grumpy, sun-burned Kurogane.
Fye is most definitely a January. But Celes is up North, isn't it? So it'd be Winter all the time. Never mind!
You're very welcome! :D
THANK YOU for that image, Quimmy!! Omg... sun-burned Kurogane... He and Fai went to tan on the beach but he got sunburned and Fai was just fine! X3 *melts into a puddle on the floor*
But yeah... I have a feeling that Fai's older than Kuro too. ^^
("Nani?! The puddle is speaking!!")
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Heh, I thought I'd revive this topic. Now that everyone who is up to date with the manga knows about Kurogane's past, we can speculate about Fai a bit more.
I was thinking about a whole lot of stuff lately. Like, who gave Fai his tatoo? Why does he have it? Why did he create Chii? And does Fei wong Reed have a hand in this?
I clicked it all together a bit, and came up with one theory.
Fai had a sister. A sister who would've/could've been Freya or Elda. However, she got killed. (Fei wong Reed perhaps?) Fai snapped and his magic shot out of control. Lots of stuff was destroyed/killed. He could've subconciously created Chii to replace his sister. Kinda like with Minoru and Yuzuki from Chobits. Ashura, however, was able to stop major carnage by giving Fai that tattoo, to control the magic. (As Yuuko said, his magic does not come from his tattoo, but Fai swore not to use magic without it.)
However, one thing still doesn't quite fit. If Fai swore not to use magic without his tattoo, then who sealed Ashura? Surely, that would need magic too. Did Ashura seal himself, perhaps? I doubt it. If Ashura did seal himself, Fai wouldn't be so worried about him waking up and coming after him.
Did Fai perhaps make a deal with someone (Again, I refer to Fei wong Reed) to put Ashura to sleep, so he could flee?
Well, that's pretty much all I got right now. This time, a theory that has nothing whatsoever to do with a feather, or Ashura being a crazy dictator. :haha:
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Heh, I thought I'd revive this topic. Now that everyone who is up to date with the manga knows about Kurogane's past, we can speculate about Fai a bit more.
I was thinking about a whole lot of stuff lately. Like, who gave Fai his tatoo? Why does he have it? Why did he create Chii? And does Fei wong Reed have a hand in this?
I clicked it all together a bit, and came up with one theory.
Fai had a sister. A sister who would've/could've been Freya or Elda. However, she got killed. (Fei wong Reed perhaps?) Fai snapped and his magic shot out of control. Lots of stuff was destroyed/killed. He could've subconciously created Chii to replace his sister. Kinda like with Minoru and Yuzuki from Chobits. Ashura, however, was able to stop major carnage by giving Fai that tattoo, to control the magic. (As Yuuko said, his magic does not come from his tattoo, but Fai swore not to use magic without it.)
However, one thing still doesn't quite fit. If Fai swore not to use magic without his tattoo, then who sealed Ashura? Surely, that would need magic too. Did Ashura seal himself, perhaps? I doubt it. If Ashura did seal himself, Fai wouldn't be so worried about him waking up and coming after him.
Did Fai perhaps make a deal with someone (Again, I refer to Fei wong Reed) to put Ashura to sleep, so he could flee?
Well, that's pretty much all I got right now. This time, a theory that has nothing whatsoever to do with a feather, or Ashura being a crazy dictator. :haha:
Whoa! That sister thing would've been pretty awesome, but it'd be a little late for CLAMP to all of a sudden say he had a sister considering he's never mentioned her... Then again, he's never mentioned Chii, either... -_- How stupid is that? It's really getting old.. Did he forget she existed or something?
And about the Ashura thing, he sealed Ashura away before he had his tattoo removed (LOL that sounds funny...) remember? So using magic wouldn't have been a problem. But, if you mean he may require magic to keep the seal strong, then you're right, and I dunno...
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Fai has already created the seal, so he probably doesn't have to use magic to keep the seal strong. Then again, the Clow Cards had to constantly feed off of Sakura, didn't they? Either way, the seal probably doesn't have to consciously be kept up. And Chii is probably helping keeping it strong, too. And it is really getting tired that we keep getting small little hints and comments about Fai's past, but we have almost no real solid information about any of it. Grr. I guess we just have to keep repeating the Clamp Fan's Mantra: Clamp is evil, Clamp is God, to Clamp we swear our undying loyalty and immortal soul.
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Whoa! That sister thing would've been pretty awesome, but it'd be a little late for CLAMP to all of a sudden say he had a sister considering he's never mentioned her... Then again, he's never mentioned Chii, either... -_- How stupid is that? It's really getting old.. Did he forget she existed or something?
Yesh, but see, Fai never mentioned anything from his past. The only thing the gang vaguely knows is that he's running away from a guy who is sleeping there. It might be that Kurogane is the only one who knows his name is Ashura. Seeing Sakura and Syoaran weren't around that time Fai flinched when a guy said Ashura's name.
He never mentioned what kind of a magician he used to be, he never mentioned anything about his family... Oh, he did mention that his country is cold, though. But that's not sayin' much.
The sister thing... it could be a possibility.
Actually, I sometimes thought that maybe Fai's tattoo surpresses all magic. Not just 'I'm going psycho' magic. Then again, that would mean Fai would be pretty damn useless as a mage, wouldn't he? XD
Mage 1: Hey, let's go to the bar!
Mage 2: Alright!
Fai: Can I come too?...
Mage 1: ... No. It's a... magic only bar. For REAL mages.
Fai: Awwwwww... V_V
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Well, since chapter 106 came out, I guess (read as: praying like hell in front of the almighty nodding cat) that we'll soon find out Fai's reason for not using magic. I think that I'll miss speculating, speculating was fun, but then again, not knowing was killing me.
Whoa! That sister thing would've been pretty awesome, but it'd be a little late for CLAMP to all of a sudden say he had a sister considering he's never mentioned her... Then again, he's never mentioned Chii, either... How stupid is that? It's really getting old.. Did he forget she existed or something?
It would be intersting, though, but if it was true it would rule out the possibility of the FaixChi romantic relationship...sort of. :sweatdrop:
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It would be intersting, though, but if it was true it would rule out the possibility of the FaixChi romantic relationship...sort of. :sweatdrop:
Ick, ruling out the possiblility of Fai and Chii in a romantic relationship is NO problem with me whatsoever! In fact, I'd prefer for it to be ruled out ASAP! XD
Anyway, OMG my fellow Fai fans!!! What do you guys think will become of this whole whistling thing?! Fai will DEFINITELY have some explaining to do in the next chapter, but how can we possibly just wait around for the next week or so to find out?!?! I mean, what ELSE could he be lying about? ((He probably reads kanji like a pro and can eat with chopsticks blind-folded! XD Heh heh, JK...))
I bet there will be tons of theorizing going on in here for a while, ne? XD
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It would be intersting, though, but if it was true it would rule out the possibility of the FaixChi romantic relationship...sort of. :sweatdrop:
And that's... bad?...
I wonder how the anime will depict that whistling. Will it be just one short whistle? Or a short tune? Or maybe it starts as a short tune, and then echoes into this big pretty song in the background. ^_^
Will it be Fai's theme, or something completely new and mystical?
(I think about the stupidest things, don't I?)
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It would be intersting, though, but if it was true it would rule out the possibility of the FaixChi romantic relationship...sort of. :sweatdrop:
And that's... bad?...
I completely agree with Meowzy. That's bad how exactly? And besides, I've never had any trouble ruling out the possibility of FaixChi. Chi has Hideki. End of story.
I wonder how the anime will depict that whistling. Will it be just one short whistle? Or a short tune? Or maybe it starts as a short tune, and then echoes into this big pretty song in the background. ^_^
Will it be Fai's theme, or something completely new and mystical?
(I think about the stupidest things, don't I?)
No, that's a good question. I think it will be something more than simply a whistle, though. You can pull that off in a manga, but it would be harder in an anime; it would seem more anticlimatic. I think it would probably be a new tune, though.
Somebody mentioned in the Chapitre 106 thread that this completely destroys the theory that Fai hasn't been using his magic because he can't control it very well. I agree; just thought I'd mention that. 'Course, I have the feeling that a great many of our theories are going to be destroyed once we finally find out what exactly happened in Fai's past.
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Okay, guys, I pulled out my volume 3 of the manga. Remeber inside that castle, when they were going in circles? The minute Syaoran picked up that pebble, to show they were going around in circles, Fai went Hyuu for the first time. The very first Hyuu.
Fai says: I don't feel like walking anymore.
And he uses his 'sense' on the wall. That shows that he used that hyuu to activate the 'sense'.
-2 Hyuu's in the battle with... what's her name. That witch. Later on, Kurogane asks: If you don't want to die, can't you atleast try to use your magic?
Fai responds with: No, sorry.
Does this mean Fai tried twice, but failed both times?
-In Volume 4, Fai goes Hyuuu after Kurogane knocks the gun out of that villager's hand in... Jade country. But there doesn't seem to be any sort of magic following it up. Maybe he was actually impressed this time?
-Another Jade country Hyuu after Syaoran and Sakura get pulled out of the water. (after that whole castle scene) Again, no magic seems to follow up, nor is there any reason why Fai would attempt to use magic. Maybe to cover up all the real Hyuu's, he's using them randomly too?
-In Outo, before Fai 'writes down' their names, I see a some sort of musical "Hmm?" (kinda hard to explain. But there's a musical note there.) Could it have anything to do with what Fai says later on? That magicians are really good at drawing? Later on, when he's drawing the sign for the Cat's eye, he's actually sorta singing...
-One thing I noticed is that in Outo, when Fai and Kurogane are fighting in front of the Clover bar, Fai doesn't attempt a Hyuu once. Did he realise they're in a game, and his power is useless there? During the battle with Seishiro, there was still no Hyuu. Only a quick mention of not wanting to use his magic. Hmmm....
-No Hyuu in the Shara/Shurano/whatever those countries are called saga... But then again, you hardly see Fai in that saga. It's mostly Kurogane battling.
-Fai goes Hyuu in the first race of Pfiffle country, after Syaoran avoids a sudden 'windstorm'. Not much magic affialated with it. I think he was just impressed.
Though a few pages later, Kurogane says: We just have to seize the feather and transport to another world before anyone can react.
Fai says: You never know, we might have to do that in the end.
Fortune telling, perhaps?
-A minor Hyuu when Fai and Kurogane are watching the news, and there's a big zoom on Kurogane's face.
-After Sakura wins the race, Fai goes Hyuu again.
Kurogane: I told you to quit saying that sound.
Fai: But I tried practicing in Yamano country and I couldn't do it. (What is Yamano country?...)
He swore not to use his magic, yet still practises whistling? How does that make sense?
-Strange though, that in LeCourt's central library, when Fai touches that wall, he doesn't go Hyuu.... Fai does however start Pyuu-ing when those strange dragonlike creatures attack. He says it sounds almost like a whistle, and continues doing it.
-After getting LeCourt's feather, and discovering the guard dog is waiting for them, Fai manages another pyuu. Another random pyuu as they escape... And another Pyuu after watching Fai's hat melt... A pyuu as the dog lunges towards them and then.... The REAL DEAL!
A nice double pyuu (most likely real whistling) as the magic appears.
Aaaand that took me about two hours. @_@
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Oooh, nice. Yes, do please keep doing that. I think it will be fascinating to see what pops out.
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We should make like... some big Hyuu list. Everyone can add the hyuu-s I've missed, plus those in the anime! Muahahahah!
It's odd though, that Fai could transport to the witch without having to whistle. Was it because of the staff? I would assume so. But then what has the tattoo got to do with it?
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I completely agree with Meowzy. That's bad how exactly? And besides, I've never had any trouble ruling out the possibility of FaixChi. Chi has Hideki. End of story
Eh? Oh no, don't get me wrong, even though I have a strange craving for unusual pairings, I'm not a huge fan of FaixChi. I've always supported Hideki and Chi's relationship (wonder if there's a Hideki in Fai's world) I was just saying that for the benefit of any FaixChi fans out there. The '...sort of' and the sweatdrop were because I started thinking about the incest implied relationship if Fai did have a sister who Chi was based and if people pair them together anyway and...I'm just digging myself into a bigger hole here, aren't I?
...Um...ehehe...anyway...I'm curious about the tattoo thing too. If the tattoo isn't there to control Fai's magic then what was it there for? If it was an enhancer or something used to concentrate his magic, I don't think that he would have been so reluctant to part with it. My bet is that it has something to do with Ashura. Maybe it was a link to the seal on Ashura's coffin-thing. Fai asked Chi to tell him when Ashura woke up but how is Chi supposed to do this unless she has magic of her own or they have some telepathic link of some sort. Maybe the tattoo and the seal were like some voodoo, magical walkie talkie thing so Fai would know when Ashura wakes up.
Actually, that's a lame theory, better yet, maybe the tattoo was supposed to drain some of Fai's power and route it via some sort of astral, astrophysical connection to the seal where Fai's power holds the seal on Ashura in place. So baisically, the tattoo and seal are like a power cable to keep Ashura sleeping using Fai's magic...but if that was true Ashura would be awake since Fai does not have the tattoo anymore.
See, this is why I'm never opening my own detective agency
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Somebody mentioned in the Chapitre 106 thread that this completely destroys the theory that Fai hasn't been using his magic because he can't control it very well. I agree; just thought I'd mention that. 'Course, I have the feeling that a great many of our theories are going to be destroyed once we finally find out what exactly happened in Fai's past.
Yeah, that was me ^^. Most of our theories are probably going to sound ridiculous once the real story comes out and we all look back in retrospect. CLAMP is probably going to knock our socks off yet again. Personally I've never thought that Fai can't control his magic, so I was happy to see him using it with such easy familiarity. Even in it's raw state, it's obvious that he's in complete control of it. I wonder if there will be any consequences, physical or otherwise (and I don't just mean maybe this will awaken Ashura) of him using it to save them?
On the hyuus.... This is my theory...
Whistling activates his magic. I, for one, believe that Fai is in total and complete control of his powers. I think that when Fai says "I can't whistle", he means, "I can't whistle because that would bring forth my magic". So, whenever he says "hyuu", it's just a placeholder, something he says instead of a whistle to express happiness, etc. Maybe on Celes he made it up because he's never been able to whistle without his magic activating, but he wants to express certain emotions just the same.
I don't think 'hyuus' are failed attempts at magic; I think they're just an expression he uses in place of whistling. I think the little, almost-magics he's done are just certain things that magic-users inherit or are naturally skilled at, such as being able to sense other sources of magic and power, kind of like Kuro-rin can sense his opponents. He's become attuned to it, is probably constantly aware of it just like Kuro-tan's constantly aware of whoever's watching him.
The little whistles he does in the previous chapters... I'm not completely sure. I tend to shy away from the ideas of those being failed magics. Maybe there were little things he did that haven't been revealed yet, or that they will reveal in greater detail later, or maybe Fai was just getting back into the groove for the inevitable confrontation.
Anyway, that's just my theory.
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Ah! I really hope there isn't a Hideki in Celes.. I HATE Hideki and if he's there it'd ruin EVERYTHING for me!!!!!
Anyway, back to Fai Fai. Yeah, it was a good idea, Meowzy, but I don't think it was actually failed magic... I really think it was just for cuteness! XD Still, it was a cool thought! I bet CLAMP wishes they thought of it! XD But I guess it still wouldn't work because I doubt he'd even try to use magic considering he can't use it right now.. (For whatever reason...)
But anyway, I think he could transport out of his world without whistling because I doubt he *has* to whistle to use magic, I'm pretty sure it's just one way of doing it, you know?
And again the tattoo remains a mystery! Maybe it has nothing to do with his magic at all.. Maybe it just has some kind of sentimental value to him or something...
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Yeah... But also... the staff. There's a chapter pic where you see Ashura holding that very same staff. And Fai seemed quite keen to get rid of it.
I got a faint idea he stole the staff from Ashura, because the staff ensures he doesn't have to whistle to active his magic. As Yuuko said, his magic comes from elsewhere. And it would seem logical Fai wouldn't need the staff anymore, if he's not going to try to use magic after that. Ofcourse, once he realises they are in danger (the circling in that palace, the sabotages in Pfiffle, the guarddogs in LeCourt) he would attempt to whistle again. He wouldn't endanger his friends.
Also, it would answer the question of "How did Fai seal Ashura, if he doesn't want to/can't use his magic?"
But then that leaves one question. Why could he suddenly not whistle? Did someone (Ashura?) do something to him, so that he couldn't whistle anymore? Or maybe after causing a huuuuge rampage (again, the rampant magic theory) his selfconfidence was broken, and he just couldn't whistle? (Like in episode 13 of Gravitation, when Shuichi spontanuously loses his voice)
Heh, the speculation continues.
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Another thing about the magic is that they've been in danger before, but Fai hasn't used magic to save them, which might support the "failed attempts at magic" theory. I've always interpreted the whole "can't use magic, sorry" thing to be Fai's refusal to use it, but now he's just randomly broken his oath, and more than anything I want to know what made him decide (if it was a decision, or if he's been trying all along to use it) to do it.
I don't know if it was a completely, 100% selfless decision. There might yet be a specific reason why Fai finally decided to use it at this point in time. At the beginning, Fai says that he'll help out as long as it doesn't endanger him. Fai's pretty focused on himself; he's kind of a selfish character, but when the backstory comes out we'll most likely finally understand much more about his motivation. But other than that, Fai's shown that he really doesn't care about his life (in Outo, when Kurogane mentioned that he wasn't making any effort to stay alive).
I think he's decided to use it because he's finally realizing, through the course of the journey, that letting himself get killed isn't what he wants anymore. The friendships he's developed are probably becoming much more important to him.
Or something like that :heh:
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Hmm, I just really don't agree with the failed attempt at magic theory.. I'd like to think Fai is more powerful than that... I really think he decided to use it because now he knew he had to. At any other time, Syao and Kuro were strong enough to save them and I think Fai knew that. But now, he realized that to get out of this pinch, he had to use his magic.
However, what I just said wouldn't explain why he let himself get killed in Outo unless he somehow knew it was a game. Or like Marla-Swann just said, maybe only now has he started to truly value the friendship he has with the group and so now he really wants to live. Maybe back then he simply didn't care. (But again, maybe it was the game thing...)
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Hmm, I just really don't agree with the failed attempt at magic theory.. I'd like to think Fai is more powerful than that... I really think he decided to use it because now he knew he had to. At any other time, Syao and Kuro were strong enough to save them and I think Fai knew that. But now, he realized that to get out of this pinch, he had to use his magic.
Yeah, but there's one thing that really picked my interest. Remember in the library, Kurogane and Syaoran are fighting those dragon things, Fai uses his first pyuu?
He says something like "Oooh listen! Doesnt that sound almost like a real whistle?" As though he's proud of it.
My theory:He knows that he's improving. That's why he keeps Pyuu-ing, during the fleeing scene. He knows he's getting close to a real whistle. As the watchdog attacks, he Pyuu-s again a few times, and then reaches a real whistle.
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Yeah, but there's one thing that really picked my interest. Remember in the library, Kurogane and Syaoran are fighting those dragon things, Fai uses his first pyuu?
He says something like "Oooh listen! Doesnt that sound almost like a real whistle?" As though he's proud of it.
I wouldn't put it past Fai to say something like that purely to save face/annoy Kurogane. Maybe he whistled to use magic, or out of habit, and then covered it up by acting surprised that he could do it so that nobody would figure out that he was lying.
Or maybe not. Gaaaah, next week cannot possibly come fast enough!
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I agree with the refusal to use his magic - I've always thought that there was something in his past that made him not want to use it, or that it would call out to and possible wake up Ashura. I can't see him simply failing to use it....it has to be something deeper than that.
By the way, has anyone wondered whether he's a bit like Chii from Chobits? With a darker personality inside, I mean. Just those looks he gest sometimes...and his not-so-flippant remarks....
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My theory on the whistling? He *acts* happy when he says that it sounds like a real whistle, but I don't think he actually is happy that he can do it, based on the last page of the chapter (the expression on his face.) My theory, is that possibly, it has something to do with Ashura waking? I think it is possible that the fact he can whistle all of a sudden might be Chi's warning. I don't have much evidence to back this theory up with, but I wanted to toss it out there anyway. I just get a feeling.
:lurk:
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That's pretty interesting. After Fai Hyuu-s for the first time, he's pretty anxious to continue the journey.
"I don't feel like walking anymore." is what he says.
It could be that the closer he gets to a whistle, the closer Ashura is to waking up. But... I don't know... It just doesn't seem quite right.
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What is that long black line behind Fai that he looks like he's sitting on? In the whistling bit?
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Isn't that part of the whistling kanji behind him?
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What is that long black line behind Fai that he looks like he's sitting on? In the whistling bit?
I think that's part of the sound effect. I had to look at that for a second to figure it out, too. o_O;
Hmm... and I have a whole bunch of different ideas about Fai's magic, and Sakaki and I were discussing it a bit ago, too. I don't even know if I could write everything out and have it make sense, because I go back and forth, I really don't know what CLAMP's going to do next. But it really wouldn't surprise me at all if Fai *did* try to pass this off as "nothing", that he was just taking advantage of the magic around him or something. I don't think Kuro would buy that. ^__^
I can't really see the whistling being connected with Ashura. His tattoo or his staff, maybe, but I think Fai's whistling is more of his 'natural' inherent magic, and perhaps the tattoo was there to channel that, but without it Fai hadn't used his own magic in its natural state in a long while. I agree with Ruby Chan, though... there's something deeper in his expressions that seems to show there's a reason behind why he's refusing to use magic. I think he could have before if he wanted to. And I feel like Fai's 'connection' to Ashura is more emotional/mental than 'magical'... but who knows.
*sits down and waits for 107*
And... I just typed out way more than I intended to. XD Damn you, Fai and your mysteries.....
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Aaaah. Riiiiight. Durr, stupid me. Kanji...
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Yeah, it took me a while to figure that black line out too. At first I thought some sort of staff had appeared behind him, in his hand. But that was just a silly thought.
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I dunno if this has been posted yet, but CLAMP's spelling has and always will be "Fay"
Here's a scan from my CLAMP no Kiseki for an example:
click (http://www.half-blood.net/images/fay.gif)
The "Bible" (san and my nickname for the caractere guide D:) also spells it out as Fay... I think it'd be weird to like something created by CLAMP so much and not at least use their spellings for their characters, am I right? =d
I really love Fay though~ He's probably my favorite character in TRC. I'm still nostalgic about CCS!Syaoran and CCS!Sakura
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I dunno if this has been posted yet, but CLAMP's spelling has and always will be "Fay"
The "Bible" (san and my nickname for the caractere guide D:) also spells it out as Fay... I think it'd be weird to like something created by CLAMP so much and not at least use their spellings for their characters, am I right? =d
Well, technically Fai's name is written in katakana, which I don't believe will show up here on the board. Katakana means it's a foreign name, which also means some liberties have probably been taken in the translation to romaji.
Yes, Clamp spells it Fay as far as we've seen. However, the spelling 'Fai' tends to show the closest pronounciation, at least for me. So, unless I write it in katakana, it will stay 'Fai' for me. And really, you should respect how other people spell his name. If we want to get really technical, we'd all have to type it in only katakana. ^^
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I dunno if this has been posted yet, but CLAMP's spelling has and always will be "Fay"
Here's a scan from my CLAMP no Kiseki for an example:
click (http://www.half-blood.net/images/fay.gif)
The "Bible" (san and my nickname for the caractere guide D:) also spells it out as Fay... I think it'd be weird to like something created by CLAMP so much and not at least use their spellings for their characters, am I right? =d
I really love Fay though~ He's probably my favorite character in TRC. I'm still nostalgic about CCS!Syaoran and CCS!Sakura
LOL, yeah everyone knows that.. All the merch says "Fay", too... But you'll see a lot of people here just stick to their preferred spelling. ((Whether it be "Fay", "Fai", "Fye", or otherwise.)) I tried to use "Fay" for a while but it just really bugs me! XD
But no one cares which one we all use, though. We all know who we're talking about! XD
And even if CLAMP uses "Fay" a lot of other characters in other anime have multiple spellings for their names, as well, regardless of the creator's spelling of the name and people just pick one and use it. Also, some characters' names are never romanized officially so the fans HAVE to pick their own spelling.
Besides, there are multiple spellings for Syaoran, too. How come no one ever says anything about that? His name can be Syaoran, Shaoran, Showrun ((Ick...)), and I'm sure there are more. I just stick to "Syao Syao", myself, though! ^_^ Also, some fans prefer "Seishirou" over "Seishiro" even though I'm pretty sure CLAMP uses "Seishiro" because "Seishirou" is actually more correct.
Why Fai gets all the attention for name spelling I don't know.. Really a TON of characters are in the same situation! XD
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Well, technically Fai's name is written in katakana, which I don't believe will show up here on the board. Katakana means it's a foreign name, which also means some liberties have probably been taken in the translation to romaji.
Yes, Clamp spells it Fay as far as we've seen. However, the spelling 'Fai' tends to show the closest pronounciation, at least for me. So, unless I write it in katakana, it will stay 'Fai' for me. And really, you should respect how other people spell his name. If we want to get really technical, we'd all have to type it in only katakana. ^^
Yes, I'm aware of katakana... I'm not ignorant of Japanese - in fact (at the risk of sounding full of myself), it's probably the exact opposite. [/end my over sensitivty]
But since there are so many variations of ways to romanize spellings, I look to official spellings, namely because it's CLAMP's manga - not mine. I use "Chunyan" instead of "Chun Hyang" because it's CLAMP's spelling, as well... (nevermind that the Japanese isn't the same as the Korean XD it's the Korean pride thing that makes it hard, if that makes any sense.) And perhaps because it is in katakana, it's a more western name that CLAMP wants to portray as such, instead of relying on whatever spelling could be most accurate to Japanese pronunciation, etc. But Syaoran kind of refutes that... but I guess I could point out that Syaoran's name is in kanji, blah blahb... what am I talking about again?
I've always been aware of CCS!Syaoran's name differing in spelling, but it's now basically golden to type it as "Syaoran" instead of Shaoran. Despite the fact that the DVDs by Pioneer had "Shaoran", I'm supposing people use Syaoran because CLAMP came up with it
edit: Errr, and I want to mention it wasn't at all my intention to insult or offend anyone. I find it hard to see how anything I said was offensive. I'm just tossing out my opinion and some fact that I use to back it up with
and maybe to stay on topic: I still love Fay! :3
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edit: Errr, and I want to mention it wasn't at all my intention to insult or offend anyone. I find it hard to see how anything I said was offensive. I'm just tossing out my opinion and some fact that I use to back it up with
Cool then.
Like Yuki said above, Fai's name has been spelled many different ways, and on this forum it doesn't matter which one you use. ^^
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Cool then.
Like Yuki said above, Fai's name has been spelled many different ways, and on this forum it doesn't matter which one you use. ^^
Unless you spell it like Vey! XD
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Unless you spell it like Vey! XD
LOL! Yeah, OK if you start doing THAT, then we'll probably say something! XD You can't spell it "Nancy", either! XD
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My friend couldn't even say his name....
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...Aww, I just love Fai. I dunno why, I just got so attached to him. He always makes me laugh! (Well...him and Kuro-rin...I didn't really like Kurogane at first ((OMG?!)) but...I read volume 2, and warmed up to him, and by volume 3 I was like: YAY KURO-CHI! but...this isn't about Kuro-pin XD)
Fai's...one helluva character really. He's so happy, but it's also fake...his kindness, I agree that's real...but he's got a rather vulnerable side in my opinion. There's the Fai everyone sees, the Combat-Fai, and...possibly the scared!Fai that I think only Kurogane can actually see.
(...Don't worry Fai! Kuro-rin'll protect you!...Or the fangirls will get angry...)
(And, on a random note, Ruby_chan, I can't stop laughing at your sig picture. I really can't XDDDDDDDDD)
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To be technical Syaoran's name should be Xiaoláng (look up Syaoran on wikipedia), his CCS self anyway as he is Chinese, Syaoran is his Japanified name. Xiaolang is how you would say his name in chinese and how it would be written in PinYin.
Fay is an annoying way of spelling it. >.> though I guess it's right, mind you in the anime everyone prenounces it Fye. Flourite sounds like a crystal or flour... There is a crystal Fluorite [CaF2] (note the O and U are swapped).
I really like Fy... Fay >.< gotta love angsty and happy-go-lucky at the same time.
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To be technical Syaoran's name should be Xiaol?g (look up Syaoran on wikipedia), his CCS self anyway as he is Chinese, Syaoran is his Japanified name. Xiaolang is how you would say his name in chinese and how it would be written in PinYin.
Fay is an annoying way of spelling it. >.> though I guess it's right, mind you in the anime everyone prenounces it Fye. Flourite sounds like a crystal or flour... There is a crystal Fluorite [CaF2] (note the O and U are swapped).
I really like Fy... Fay >.< gotta love angsty and happy-go-lucky at the same time.
yep, in korean Syaoran is pronounced Xiaolang Li, which if you say it fast and a lot, it will sound like Syaoran
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Flourite sounds like a crystal or flour... There is a crystal Fluorite [CaF2] (note the O and U are swapped).
Random but interesting, too, is that the crystal Fluorite is a light blue and rather resembles the crystal in Fai's staff.
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i think of him as my lover! hahaha! in my dreams! i like his character he's the clown of the group & when mokona adds up-----their powers of jokes are strong even stronger than kurogane's sword skills! he just loves everyone to be happy didn't he told to mokona that he was enjoying their trip as much as possible to make everyone happy & enjoyable rather than to be sad & irritated to one another especially when it comes to syaoran's side fye understand how syaoran feels when sakura telling him about one of his memory that she was talking to someone who's not even there...it hurts right...? so what fye do wa sto make everyone happy, comfortable & enjoyable so that there will be no one will be sad ;p
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Definitely love Fye (well now that I know it's Fay...I think I'll stick with for personal preference :XD:). Did since the first time I saw him, sure with Kurogane we weren't sure where he came from and why he was quite so blood thirsty but we definitely did have more there then we did with Fye. With Fye we saw a deserted world and were definitely given the impression something pretty bad/dark/intense/major happened. He's funny, insightful and observant. His mystery immediately attracted me
not to mention the fact he's so goshdarn goodlooking.
I wish Clamp would stop teasing us and just give us SOMETHING about his past. I agree that something definitely screams "guilty conscience" about him, I think his friendliness maybe geniune and at the same time a mask he puts on. A way to distract away from any interpersonal signs he may or may not give. It seems to be something he tries to keep on constantly, notice how disturbed he gets whenever someone manages to read what it is he's feeling/perhaps thinking at certain times? That one dark haunted look he gave in one of the last chapters...MAN he's hot when he's serious
Whatever it is that happened to him or whatever it is that he did (honestly? I think he did something) it weighs heavily on him and I WANT CLAMP TO GIVE IT TO US ALD;FJKA;LDFK :angry:
err...yeah :sweatdrop:
As for the Pyuu/Hyu thing? I'm not reading too deeply into it, I think it's nothing more then a personal quirk Clamp gave him.
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I love Fai, just a thought cross my mind.....how old is he? Is he older the Kuro? or younger? I'd just like to see what others think?
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No-one actually knows his age offically. There's been no clues as to Fai's age form the books. Lots of people think he'll be much older than he looks due to the magic of his country etc, but someone on LJ worked out that Kurogane is roughly 22 but I always thought he'd be in his late twenties...
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So then, people...Chaptire 112...we got some serious Fai angst. Let's discuss!
I think we can come to the conclusion that Fai wants to be loved but is terrified that people who love or care for him will be hurt, so he's torn basically, between wanting someone to care for him aka "Take him away", and wanting people to leave him alone so they won't be harmed....presumably by Ashura...?
I also picked up on the anime, Fai says, "If you are happy and smile all the time, no-one will harass you." (ep 13?) Isn't that very Fai? Hrmm...
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Yep, I agree. I think you pretty much pinned it down with that post, envy. I also would add that I think Fai has some guilt issues, so a part of him believes he doesn't deserve to be loved, due to pass sins. I strongly doubt that, whatever the story with Ashura is, Fai is completely innocent. And that makes the situation all the more messed up.
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Hrmm, yeah definetly. The fact that (according to Kuro and Syaoran) Fai is a combat veteran and that Fai had vowed not to use his magic without his tatoo (I'm getting this from the anime but the translation could be a bit off ^_^) leads back to the whole theory of....unmeasurably powerful Fai's magic was controlled by that tatoo Ashura placed on him and then manipulated him with it. I know that makes Fai out to be a victim, but we can see how he's the type that would blame himself for something like that? That's why he wouldn't want anyone to 'get in' as it were, past his defences and into his heart, just like Sakura and Syaoran (but especially Kuro) ^_~ have?
Maybe someone he was very close to was hurt by him because of Ashura, but he blames himself? It's so difficult because we know so little about Fai. Argh!! Come on CLAMP, give us something concrete that doesn't make our heads spin..(unless it's the good kind of spinning only created by Fai/Kuro Ohhohohooo!)
Another thing I'm so confused about though is...Fai's life because all the translations I'm reading are more complicated each time, is it that he takes his life for granted? But Fai says it's difficult for him to die? Is that because he...would use his magic then? Or is he like immortal? Argh!! Man, it's confusing...
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To the best of my understanding from reading several different translations of the manga and anime, Fai 'takes his life for granted' like Kurogane said in Outo because he doesn't care whether he lives or dies. In someways, he would probably rather be dead, simply because then he wouldn't have to worry about Ashura. He used his magic to save them all, not because he cares about himself and doesn't want to die, but because he cares about the others and doesn't want them to die. I don't remember Fai saying anything about it being difficult for him to die. Where did you read that? From a certain perspective, it certainly would be difficult for him to die, considering that he's an uber powerful mage, but that would only be true if he used his magic to protect himself.
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In the Del Rey versions (*groan*) Fai says during the battle with Kiimishi, "You see...I don't die very easily." and I think he says it another time in Outo. Fai says that an injury like that won't kill him and Kurogane's like, "not won't...can't." Or something like that.
But Del Rey...not most reliable...
:( Poor Fai. *hugs* But we all know that Kurogane is the one that will make him want to live again.
That's another thing, isn't it? About him waiting for the one who will take him away...that's very interesting. Ne?
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In the Del Rey versions (*groan*) Fai says during the battle with Kiimishi, "You see...I don't die very easily." and I think he says it another time in Outo. Fai says that an injury like that won't kill him and Kurogane's like, "not won't...can't." Or something like that.
But Del Rey...not most reliable...
:( Poor Fai. *hugs* But we all know that Kurogane is the one that will make him want to live again.
That's another thing, isn't it? About him waiting for the one who will take him away...that's very interesting. Ne?
*smacks self* Okay, I remember that bit in Outo now. I took that bit in Outo where Fai says it won't kill him just as Fai brushing off the injury, and then Kurogane turning it on him saying that it should be more like Fai won't let such a slight injury kill him.
And I find the bit about being 'taken away' very fascinating. ^^ CLAMP loves to play with words like that.
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I know! Damn you , CLAMP, why do you make run riot?
I can't wait to find out about Fai's past
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Yep, I'm hoping that CLAMP reveals something about Fai soon too.
It seems strange. Maybe it's just me, but even though Fai doesn't seem to mind dying or not, he seems like he's afraid of pain, or certainly not too keen on it (but then again who is?) Maybe it's just me. -_- Argh! CLAMP, please use your almighty powers to give us a hint!
Did anyone else find it odd that in Outo Fai was blown into a wall and it crumbled all around him and yet all he got were a few scrapes and a twisted ankle? I know super bishounen = super, mad, endurance/power skillz but still. He just doesn't seem to get hurt like he should...not that I want him to get hurt or anything.
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Yeah, I know. That is teh strange :S
(Fai should get the flu or something so Kurogane has to take care of him...)
Ahem.
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I have a bad feeling that CLAMP are going to tease us for a very long time, and for now we should just forget about Fai's past >_<
I've been thinking a lot about it but there too few clues. However i have an idea... Looking at Ashura's picture I don't believe he is evil, his face, his eyes... they are too kind. Fai seems not to be afraid of death, so I don't think he escaped from his world in order to save his own life. And we know from chapter 112 (^^) that he doesn't want anyone to be hurt because of him... Because of all that I start thinking that Fai's presence in his world might be dangerous for Ashura... But Ashura might have not wanted Fai to leave because of him, and so Fai had no other choice, than to seal Ashura and escape so as nobody could stop him. But when Ashura wakes up he can foolow Fai to bring him back, which makes Fai be so nervous...
All theese things really drive me crazy... I hate this idea, but for now it's the only one that has some sense
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Hrmm...maybe.
I think that people do often jump to the conclusion that Ashura must be evil, but that look is kind, there good be many explanations as to why Fai sealed him.
But then again...it's obvious Fai is terrified of Ashura himself. At least I think so.
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Ok, I'm joining this thread too. I must talk about Fai or I'll go crazy! Does anyone know what Ashura is like in RG Veda? I agree that Fai is obviously terrified of Ashura finding him. That's why I want the missing part of the Shura/Shara arc so darn bad.... What must poor Fai have been going through before he got to verify that the Ashura-Ou they were fighting was not his Ashura-Ou? What I find interesting is that he obviously thinks that Ashura will be dangerous to those he is close to. It makes me think of suppression- he is afraid to be with someone because of Ashura's almost like ownership of him. That's the feeling I get, that Ashura still has a great hold on him. The KuroXFai fangirl in me says that Ashura would be jealous of Kuro, and therefore kill him - that's why Fai is afraid to get close to him.
Has anyone seen the seventies anime of Swan Lake? Fai reminds me of Odette a little; he's a bird in an invisible cage, held captive by an evil wizard, desperately wanting his prince to break the spell, but afraid the breaking will cost them both their lives! Ok, cheesy rant ended.
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Eh, I've read the first couple books of RG Veda. I have scanlations of the whole thing, but I need to finish reading it. Actually, TokyoPop is doing a good translation of RG Veda right now- I think book five comes out this month. From what I've read of RG Veda, Ashura has this split personality. He can be really sweet and kind, and then he can be absolutely evil. So it can go either way.
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But as far as i understand, it's not THAT Ashura... i mean, in RG VEDA, there were two of them, they were different persons but had the same name. So Ashura from Fai's world is "the first" one, who lived 300 ago (or so) This one: http://www.tsubasachronicle.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=6&pos=25
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After finally finishing all of RG Veda, it's kind of hard for me to buy into the 'Tsubasa Ashura is evil' theory.
RG Veda ending spoilers.....
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Ashura-ou (Fai's Ashura, the older one who was the father of the younger, genderless Ashura in RG Veda and was dead before the story begins, so only appears in flashbacks) always seemed kind of the silent and moody type when he appeared, at least I thought. And in the end, we find out that Ashura-ou made Taishakuten (the evil king guy) promise to make sure his son would never be un-sealed, because it had been prophesied that his son would destroy the world. And Taishakuten kept his promise, because he was in love with Ashura-ou... so the only reason he was evil was to stay true to his promise. The Ashura clan were supposed to be the god of destruction, merciless and bloodthirsty, but Ashura-ou was not because the seal hadn't entirely been broken, or something like this. So the 'merciless' part only showed up in his son later. But the whole 'seal' plot is interesting compared to Ashura-ou being 'sealed' in Tsubasa. Although it might be pretty lame of CLAMP to rip off their whole RG Veda plot, the idea of split-personality Ashura-ou in Tsubasa is interesting. Perhaps even Ashura-ou asked Fai to seal him, knowing that if the 'merciless' part of him finally came out.... and that's the side of him that Fai's so afraid of. *shrugs* Who knows.
Err... although maybe this should move to the Ashura character thread... :sweatdrop:
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That's interesting. I never thought about that. I also don't like the whole Ashura was totally evil and abusive thing. I think someone has said it before, but Fai's tattoo could always have something to do with the seal.
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I don't think it's that, but rather maybe he was somehow forced into doing something BY King Ashura.
Being the King's Wizard (which I'm assuming he was) he would be very close to King Ashura. Maybe he was forced or Tricked. I don't know. I just feel like he isn't using his magic because of some great guilt.
Maybe he then realized how out of control King Ashura was and sealed him away with his magic.
i feel trhat way too! that would sorta explain fai's self loathing and stuff.
I m a big fai fan and i prefer that spelling. won't Fay be read as Day
i dont like the "official" spelling either. i used to do it as Fye, but i find my self using fai more often. (spelling fay makes me worried what will funimtion do to it :sad5:
also, i prefer "Hyuu~! as fai's official whistle pronunciation instead of 'wheet woot' hyuu spunds so much cuter/ :keke:
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Hehe, I love hyuu too, the first tiem I heard it I must've squeed for like a year. And again when Kurogane done it...
AND BY THE WAY...was anyone else totally scandalized when Kurogane went "Hyuu!" when Sakura came in wearing the waitress outfit in the anime!
But was Fai Ashura's wizard? In all the pictures Ashura had his own staff and looks very magical (what with the huge gems in his forehead) and lives ina huge floating castle...so would he need a personal wizard? If he's capable of magic himself. Wouldn't it be cool if Fai was like his bodyguard? (again leading back to the uber-powerful Fai theory!)
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maybe ashura blackmailed fai? only time and CLAMP will tell. :-/
i have a large fai image collection (and a fw other images of other chara) in my photobucket...
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v497/sailoryue/Tsubasa%20Chronicle/
(yes i have an image of FWR there...i have it there cuz i was showing someone it)
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Also, don't you find it really quite sad/interesting that Fai crated Chi? Why? Because there was no-one else for him to talk to, he doesn't seem the type to create people for scientific/experimental reasons, so was it because he was lonely?
Perhaps she was created on the basis of someone he once knew, someone who he killed? Perhaps by him or Ashura?
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Perhaps she was created on the basis of someone he once knew, someone who he killed? Perhaps by him or Ashura?
I had this idea too ^_^ But soon i understood that what I was thinking about was similar to Tokyo Babylon... a little :sweatdrop:
I thought that he might have a sister (there's something common in their appearences, don't you think?), who died (was killed), and Chii was an attempt to bring her back to life (or to make some kind of a clone)... Yep, it doesn't sound very good now :sweatdrop:
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I know this might be hated on, or something, but could Chii be a love child???? Since we are bringing her up...
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I had this idea too ^_^ But soon i understood that what I was thinking about was similar to Tokyo Babylon... a little :sweatdrop:
Eh, how is the idea of Chii being based on someone Fai knew anything like Tokyo Babylon? That's not TB at all.
And Chii's not a love child, since she's not human in the traditional sense; Fai created her. She's a magical construction like Yue/Yukito from CCS. Which then leads to all sorts of comparisons of Fai to Clow.
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Eh, how is the idea of Chii being based on someone Fai knew anything like Tokyo Babylon? That's not TB at all.
That's not because of Chii. I mean kind of "someone important for you (it is possible that Ashura WAS) kills your sister, and it makes you have "mixed" feelings about it" Well yes, i guess i should have said this in an other way... I was thinking about it so much, that now can't say exactly what made me say this :sweatdrop:
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speaking of fai creating chii, im writing a fic on that subject now. i dont hink its very good tho, its very short.
i think he created her cuz he was simply lonely. look at the images of celes that weve been shown, a casle floaring in the air, seemingly life3less, anyone would be alone really.
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That's not because of Chii. I mean kind of "someone important for you (it is possible that Ashura WAS) kills your sister, and it makes you have "mixed" feelings about it" Well yes, i guess i should have said this in an other way... I was thinking about it so much, that now can't say exactly what made me say this :sweatdrop:
Ah, I understand now. lol It's fine.
And I thought I'd recommend Ontogenesis's wonderful Fai fic 'Child of Celes.' (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2634270/1/) She's got some wonderful theories about Fai and his past that fit very well into canon, and she just put out the last chapter.
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Well by love child I ment, if you read Chobits you see that Chi and her sister was made for a woman who could not have children of her own, so in away Fai might have done the same for his loved one?
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Does anyone else get the feeling that FWR might've had something to do with Fai's past?
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He seems to have been involved with all the others..( he was the one who killed Kuro's mum, wasnt he? *Hasnt read Kuro's past in a while*) the idea that he meddled in all their lives is interesting, and presents a whole bunch of questions..
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Oh, wow. You're right. It has to be so. I'd give you a cookie for that if I could!
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He seems to have been involved with all the others..( he was the one who killed Kuro's mum, wasnt he? *Hasnt read Kuro's past in a while*) the idea that he meddled in all their lives is interesting, and presents a whole bunch of questions..
i kinda thought that too, but IMO he'll have something do with maybe causing Ashura to awaken. he's messed with the others, so why not fai?
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he's screwed up kurogane's past, killing his mom. He's messed up Sakura's present, spreading her feathers, so i think that he'll cause something in Fai's future.
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Well by love child I ment, if you read Chobits you see that Chi and her sister was made for a woman who could not have children of her own, so in away Fai might have done the same for his loved one?
Well, that's a possibility for Chii's creation, but that's not what is generally meant by 'love child.' 'Love child' usually means a child conceived by two people who are/were in love with each other but aren't/can't be married to each other. But while your theory certainly is a possibility, I do believe Fai created Chii for himself, most likely to keep him company.
And I think it highly likely that FWR had something to do with Fai's past in some way, just to keep up with the pattern that has emerged. CLAMP loves patterns.
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~ thread cleaned up.
Please, no more two word or off-topic posts. ^^
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Is this allowed?
The question of Fai's tatoo and his magic, in some religons or stories, when a person does magic and is done right, no harm shell come to the magic user, but if the magic is wrong, but still works, the magic will come back at the user three times stronger. Fai's tatoo was proabley an equalizer for his magic, and with it gone, his magic could harm him. Is there any other Ideas for it?
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Is this allowed?
The question of Fai's tatoo and his magic, in some religons or stories, when a person does magic and is done right, no harm shell come to the magic user, but if the magic is wrong, but still works, the magic will come back at the user three times stronger. Fai's tatoo was proabley an equalizer for his magic, and with it gone, his magic could harm him. Is there any other Ideas for it?
Reminds of sakanagi (just in case: in "Tokyo Babylon" it was mentioned that if one uses his magic to make any harm to somebody, the negative energy will come back to that person and will harm him, kinda in order to keep the ballance^^, so to avoid any harm some protective methods were used...). But i think that Fai is powerful enough to use magic properly :keke:
Well, at least we know that Fai's tatoo is very similar (if it's not THE SAME) to the seal on Ashura's... "container" :sweatdrop:
Only now i realised HOW lonely Fai possibly was! I mean we saw him for the first time right after he had sealed Ashura. His decision to leave his world was absolutely spontaniouse, he didn't need any time to think of it; which means he had nothing preciouse to him, had nobody who would worry about him and who he could prevent... And even if Ashura was not THAT bad, as he is imagined to be, it is still VERY sad.
And i've just came up with an idea... What if Ashura was to Fai the same as Tomoyo is for Kurogane? I mean THAT kind of relationship, not any past events.
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You mean a purely platonic or brother/sister relationship?
*growls*
Because that's all Kurogane and Tomoyo are...*points*
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Exactly ^^
Because i don't think Ashura is evil, and when Fai recalls his past he doesn't seem to be scared or something, but his eyes get filled with great sadness and pain; though i don't think he LOVED Ashura (besides, why is he flirting with Kuro then? :keke: ) Soooo, yeah, that's what i think :D
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Should we throw the mysterious pink creature from the 2nd ED into the discussion? What do you guys think? Is that creature just a random thing they added to make the picture cuter, or does the little creature have a meaning?
I'm guessing, the creature is Chii. Fai somehow used his magic to give his favourite pet a human shape, or something like that.
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(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i50/von-questenberg/chibifai-1.jpg)
Here's a picture... Chibi Fai is SO cute. <3 And the thought about Chii... Interesting. I hadn't thought of that. That's a possibility, since Fai asked Chii if it were alright for him to change Chii's shape just before he leaves Celes. Perhaps he had changed her shape before.
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*nod nod*
Then again, Chii also said that Fai created her... And if she already existed beforehand as a cute pink creature, that wouldn't make sense.
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*nod nod*
Then again, Chii also said that Fai created her... And if she already existed beforehand as a cute pink creature, that wouldn't make sense.
Unless Fai created the cute little pink thing too... O_O But that would mean Fai was creating stuff like that as a little kid. But we've always assumed/known Fai is freaking powerful. I think the Chii=pink bunny/cat/fox theory isn't very likely over all, but interesting. Actually, it makes me think of the country of Idols, with the dancing pagan bunnies. XD
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Awww! I loved those bunnies!
Oh, also, I noticed that the Celes we see in the background... isn't covered with snow at all. In fact, it looks a bit tropical.
Fai said his country was cold, didn't he? I doubt he was referring to winter only. So why does that Celes in the picture look like it's not cold at all? Did something happen, to make it winter?
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I think, the pink creature is only decoration.
But I noticed that too, that there is no snow or so...it looks like a peaceful land...and Fye looks really happy as a child, I think.
Perhaps Fye did it...with his magic...but he did not want to do it, or was manipulated?!...or there was a war against magican...or a feather?! O.o
too many possibilities...
hm...we will see...somehow..^^;;
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The question is, how much would CLAMP tell the anime people about something that hasn't been revealed in the manga yet? I'm not expert on the subject or anything, but would CLAMP tell them something like that?
I was all excited when I saw that (that, and that both the OP and ED were so cool! :inlove:), but now that I've calmed down and thought about it, it seems kind of like something the anime people just pulled out of their asses. I mean, the whole ED seems to have a 'kid' theme, and they had to throw Fai in there somewhere. Despite how much I'd love for it to be a hint.
Also, if you look in the background, there's a whole bunch of floating castles! Don't know if that's significant in any way, but I know I'VE always thought that Ashura's was the only one. Celes looks so pretty, though.
Hehe, I love how he's just floating in the middle of nowhere. Looks like he had no problem using his magic when he was a kid.
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intersting. i cant wait to se the new OP (just saw screenies of it)
as for my veiws on how fai created Chii, im in the middle of a fanfic on it...its not the best cuz its told in firtst person, but i try my best...
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You can watch it off YouTube, SailorYue. Both of them are up there now, and you don't have to download a thing.
It's my God ^^
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Marla-Swann...yes, we don't know, what CLAMP tell them...
But I think, that it would be a big too heavy...then they could show Fye read a book or flow over an icy land or so..
I think, this could be a little reference about his homeland ( and his past ) ^^
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fai is dressed like a prince in the ending of season 2, it makes me wanna rethink his whole magicianstatus....y'know what IF he WAS somekind of prince? i mean...yeah, that kind sounds stupid. maybe the whole kid-Fai stuff was actually some sort of hint from CLAMP putting it in one of the tsubasa RC mangas showing fai as a kid. i dunno. i'm getting dizzy. @_@ anyway....i just hope that the anime follows throught with the manga i mean. some anime just changes right through in the middle of the series i hope it doesn't happen to tsubasa.
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the first ep in season 2 gave fai a bit more character development. yay ^_^.
it seems to me that Celes is composed of a series of floating casltes/palaces over an ocean and baran land or somethingalso, wasw it just me or did they change the way fai looks from season 1 to 2? his hair seems a bit shorer, tho it may have been the gogles on his head...
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yea! i noticed that too!!!! in the manga his hair seemed longer too! waii! @_@
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also it seems his eyes are a shade lighter :( now their a dull sky blue rather than deep pacific blue:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v497/sailoryue/Tsubasa%20Chronicle/fyepraysforsakura.png)
(my fav close up of him screenie from season 1 :inlove:)
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Actually, his entire face seems a bit different, and less... Fai-ish. His eyes are smaller, and sometimes lack that certain... Fai look.
I can't really explain it but... I think Fai is the only character who seems to have gone downhill when the animation changed a bit.
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Hmm, yeah, a couple times his eyes looked too small for his face... Or, small for Fai, anyway...
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Really? I kind of liked it. Sometimes his eyes werea bit small, but overall, I think they done a much better job, especially when compared to Episode 1 of the last season. Man alive, that was shabby work! :P
I noticed the background to child!Fai straight away, it's very interesting, I think that when Ashura came to power, it all changed. I don't really think anything of the little foxie. Squee.
I love the more competent air about Fai in this episode.
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I wonder if Fai lived in Celes, or more specifically Ashura's floating castle, all his life? Maybe the background of the chibi picture isn't Celes, but an adjacent country or something? Because it looks like floating castles were pretty common in Fai's world. :heh:
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I'm gussing this is okay to ask here....but you know how syaoran is, I believe, the only one who knows about Kurogane's past? Well I was wondering....Who is going to find out about Fai's past first?
I'm pretty sure we'll find out eventually, but I was wondering if CLAMP was going to do the same thing, or have all of them all learn it at the same time. And if they do have only one of them learn, I wonder who it's going to be. And how?
Maybe Sakura.... you know little puppy learns about big puppy and little kitty about big....but then if it was a really bad thing Fai did, we wouldn't want her to have nightmares....
It could be Syaoran again....but that's no fun :P....but it would be understandable if the marking was a part of Fai's past too....
The person who I want the most to learn Fai's past though would be Kurogane, because he says he doesn't care, but should be forced to :greengrin:....but if he did I wonder how he would react to it....hmm
What do you guys think?
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I think the idea of Sakura somehow finding out about Fai's past would be cute, but no, we wouldn't want her to have nightmares, true.
And I do think Kurogane does care about Fai's past and wants to find out what happened; what he meant when he said that was more along the lines of, "I'm not going to hate you, no matter what you did in the past; none of it had anything to do with me, so I have no reason to hate you for it." So if anything, Kurogane will be the one to find out about Fai's past. Eventually of course, all three of them (well, four counting Mokona) will know about Fai's past, I think.
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O.O!!!! I wish CLAMP would make kurogane the one to know about Fai's past. I mean, wasn't he also the last person to touch the book? It would be an interesting turn of events if Kurogane saw Fai's past.
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I wonder how the whole past thing will be revealed. I mean, I'm hoping that it will be revealed in a visual way, like Kuro-tan's was, and not just Fai telling someone. Or Ashura or someone revealing it. I mean, it might be a bit repetitive if CLAMP pulls out another "random item that records memories!" thing, but I'd like to actually SEE the events of Fai's past played out in Celes, not just READ about it.
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O.O!!!! I wish CLAMP would make kurogane the one to know about Fai's past. I mean, wasn't he also the last person to touch the book? It would be an interesting turn of events if Kurogane saw Fai's past.
what happened to my post there?
i once saw a fanfic that was described as 'what would happen if kuro had read fai's memories" but it waws a major disapointment. it was mostly about what everyone tasts like to mokona and how mokona wants to spit him up (O.o) and there was only a small bit about kuro telling fai that he'd read his book, or something like htat.
BUT recently ive jsut come up with a story liek this, only really about kuro going thru fai';s memories and alot...so keep an eye out for it ^_^
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I wonder how the whole past thing will be revealed. I mean, I'm hoping that it will be revealed in a visual way, like Kuro-tan's was, and not just Fai telling someone. Or Ashura or someone revealing it. I mean, it might be a bit repetitive if CLAMP pulls out another "random item that records memories!" thing, but I'd like to actually SEE the events of Fai's past played out in Celes, not just READ about it.
maybe fai will tell someone about it but it'll turn into like a flash back or something so you'll see everything ^^
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yay! flashback! seriously though, that's a good idea
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What if, instead of Seeing the past, they are in the Past for Fai's history to come up. It could happen.
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but it would be more interesting if only kurogane only knew
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Yes it would be, I wish I knew what CLAMP was thinking, do they have a flip a coin to determin what to write next,
CLAMP
"So what should we do!"
"Flip a coin, heads move on to another world"
"Tells, Fai's past"
Flips the coin........ rolls on the table and stops.
"............"
"Lets just say it was heads"
"Just to drive the fans crazy, right?"
"Right"
So that is my idea why the never bring Fai's past up.
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Hehehe....that was funny Smile for Me-chan....but i believe CLAMP will bring up Fai's past in a matter of time. It's been 15 volumes already! O.O actually who am I kidding? Maybe they'\re never going bring up Fai's past. What if it all ended as a cliffhanger?
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Well CLAMP did say TRC was going to be longer then X/1999, which is at 19 Volumes,
So Fai's past might, hopefully come up in Volumes 16-17? or maybe It will come in the recent chapters, he is starting to use his powers now, little by little.
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Waahhhh!!!!!! B-but if x/1999 is only 19 volumes long...then that must mean....there are LESS chances of CLAMP actually showing Fai's past. I mean, they can actually show such things near the end of the manga???? Uwaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! @_@
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What if it all ended as a cliffhanger?
omg...don't even go there lol
I think I'd have to attack someone if that happened. I'm desperate for Kuro to fins out abotu Fai's past, but only because I'm a steadfast KuroxFai shipper. :P
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*Another Fai-lover joining in*
CLAMP revealing Fai's past is for sure going to happen. I have no doubts of that. It's just a matter of time. I feel like they're building it up so much that they're waiting to toss it on the fans when they least expect it. A very CLAMP move. ^_^
Did anyone notice how the Ashura from Fai's homeland looks more like Yasha than Ashura? I know Ashura's supposed to be a character whose gender is ambiguous, but they've always seemed to have more of a feminine touch to them. Although I could be wrong...
Anyways, back to Fai. Anyone ever wonder how much power Fai really has? In one of the earlier volumes (I forget which one) it's hinted at that the tatoo Fai gave to Yuuko served not as a source of his powers but as a limiter to his powers. Which makes me wonder several other things. Did Fai place that tatoo on himself? What happened to Fai that made him realize that he needed to keep control of his powers?
When Chi tells Fai that Ashura has awoken, I really don't think he'll return to Celes. That is the one place, his wish to Yuuko, that he does not wish to be. He gave up what was most precious in order to get that wish. I think the reason for Chi to warn him is that it seems like he expects Ashura to come after him. Once he knows that he can go all out offensive and perhaps we can see Fai use much of his magic. That's my theory anyways.
So many questions and theorys and we still have yet to even scratch the surface of this character. I love Fai most because he is truely one of those dark mysterious characters that you just can't help but love. For me that love was first sight. ^_^-
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Did anyone notice how the Ashura from Fai's homeland looks more like Yasha than Ashura? I know Ashura's supposed to be a character whose gender is ambiguous, but they've always seemed to have more of a feminine touch to them. Although I could be wrong...
The Ashura of Fai's world isn't the androgynous Ashura that hangs out with Yasha from RG Veda, but rather that Ashura's father, who is dead before the story begins and is only shown in flashbacks. They share the same name, it's true (and unnecessarily confusing, but hey, that's CLAMP) but the Ashura in Shurano is not the same as the Ashura in Fai's world.
I agree with you, though, bearmoon-san. It's would be incredibly anti-climactic if Fai's past was never revealed. It would just be bad storytelling, structure-wise, and CLAMP's series' are usually very well-written. They understand the conventions of good storytelling, and you can't just hint away at something like that and then never reveal it. Plus, it would drive me insaaaaaaane!
The timing of Fai's past being revealed is probably going to be deliberate- it will probably affect the latest feather-quest in some way.
There's also a theory going around that Fai's marking only paid for the ability to traverse the worlds so that he could get away from Celes, and not actually to prevent him from returning. I have to admit, I'd love it if the group somehow ended up in Celes, real or otherwise. There have been quite a few splash-pages where various characters are pictured in settings that look extremely reminiscent of Celes (the cover of the Del Rey volume 9, for example- the same icicle things were in the background of that picture of Fai from the Japanese volume 4).
:surprised: Jeez, this is a long post...
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Well like Clamp did In Tokyo Babylon, they left it at a cliff hanger, only to continue in X/1999,
Maybe Fai will get his own spin-off with Kurogane. I can dream can't I....
CLAMP hints that Fai's past will come to light, because we all know Ashura-ou will awaken, and do what CLAMP-Knows-What, which I hope is very soon, cause Fai is cool, and show more emo then just smiling and little dark expressions....
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The Ashura of Fai's world isn't the androgynous Ashura that hangs out with Yasha from RG Veda, but rather that Ashura's father, who is dead before the story begins and is only shown in flashbacks. They share the same name, it's true (and unnecessarily confusing, but hey, that's CLAMP) but the Ashura in Shurano is not the same as the Ashura in Fai's world.
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I didn't know...I think it's time to invest in the RG Veda manga...of all the CLAMP series this is the one I know least about. Thanks for the little insight. The whole Ashura Ashura thing threw me off quite a bit.
And I agree Smile_For_Me! We just know that his past will be revealed. It must be soon. It's gotta be! ^_^
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its always cool when fai's mask slips and he shows soem real amotion. this is my fav "Fai dark look" from the first season.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v497/sailoryue/Tsubasa%20Chronicle/fyebeingserious.png)
the splash page from ch 112 is also one of my faves.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v497/sailoryue/Tsubasa%20Chronicle/manga%20n%20stuff/vrsvpd.jpg
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Kuro's mentioned that Fai must be REALLY powerful while they were in the library at lecourt, and fai could tell where all the protective spells were. they were powerful spells protecting a very valuable artifact: A book containing sakura's feather. plus the spell he cast at the end of lecourt, that allowed them to dimension hop. to block all those defenses like that, he is EXREMLY powerful IMO
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I know this is a long, looong shot, but did anyone notice that Fai, from Manga #1, that Fai had always called Kurogane liked he had known him or known of him for some time?
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Maybe it has to do something with his past, you know, when Kurgane lost his mother and father Manga #13-14?, we know for a fact that the mother was killed, but not to sure about his father, right? And since that what's his name, the old creepy guy...., messed with Kuroganes past with the demension gate/thing, could his dad ended up in Fai's world? Fai finding him, and bring him back to health? Well thats what I think, like I said long shot.
Is this post ok to be here?
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I can really see that beig a possibility, although I don't think it's that complicated. I think that it's just part of Fai's demeanour. (There's that and I think Kuro has a big sign hanging above him saying "Easily annoyed, please irrtate me" :lol:)
But it is a good theory and, as proven, anything can take a huge turn in this series. So don't think it's too far of a shot even if that's not the case.
*My turn for a long shot* Also, anyone else pondering about the ending sequence to the second season? They show both Kuro and Fai when they are younger and I wonder if that means that they may cover Fai and Kuro's pasts in this season. If that's the case then maybe CLAMP's planning to reveal Fai's past in the manga sooner than we expect.
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Or Bee Train is just Joshing us around like they can,
But I did like seeing Fai as a kid, it was so Kewl, I'd like to see more of that, but it happaning anytime in the second season is very unlikely, that is unless they branch off and have two different pasts for Fai, one being Bee Trains, the other being CLAMP, and in the past, this has happened before.
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That's very true...
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I like the theory that Fai's deal only gave him the power to avoid going back to Celes, but they will end up back there. Wow, that would a good chapter. I just know though that I'm going to cry when we get to Kuro's world.
I think that -judging from the anime picture etc- that Fai's world was lovely and green etc until Ashura came into power and then everything went evil and cold. I also like it how Kuro had a painful childhood but Fai had the painful adulthood, by the looks of things anyway!
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Well, we know there was no guarantee that Fai would not return to his world, same as there was no guarantee that Kurogane would return to his, they're both travelling on the chance. I'm so worried they're going to make Fai some kind of mass murderer and I'll end up hating him~see next post *rolls eyes* (unlikely :wink: ) but my sister reassured me it'd be ok, lol! They can't not cover his past, that would be awful!
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Anyways, back to Fai. Anyone ever wonder how much power Fai really has? In one of the earlier volumes (I forget which one) it's hinted at that the tatoo Fai gave to Yuuko served not as a source of his powers but as a limiter to his powers. Which makes me wonder several other things. Did Fai place that tatoo on himself? What happened to Fai that made him realize that he needed to keep control of his powers?
When Chi tells Fai that Ashura has awoken, I really don't think he'll return to Celes. That is the one place, his wish to Yuuko, that he does not wish to be. He gave up what was most precious in order to get that wish. I think the reason for Chi to warn him is that it seems like he expects Ashura to come after him. Once he knows that he can go all out offensive and perhaps we can see Fai use much of his magic. That's my theory anyways.
So many questions and theorys and we still have yet to even scratch the surface of this character. I love Fai most because he is truely one of those dark mysterious characters that you just can't help but love. For me that love was first sight. ^_^-
Yes, I think he must have been (and probably still is) a very powerful wizard, especially if he needs some device to help control his powers... either that or he's not a strong enough person to do it himself, maybe thats why he's travelling with Kuro and the others (I don't really think thats the case, but its worth a mention). Me and my sister think he could be some kind of a crazy and totally loses it with himself and his magic, killing thousands, lol! :lol:
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Yes, please don't double post. You can use the modify button to add to your post. ^^
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Hey, did you know Fai's langauge is Russian, now if only I could translate it and read it...look at this web site.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_alphabet
What do you think, is it Russian?
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How did you find that out? That's Fai's language is Russian?
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whered my post go?
it looks similar, but not quite...maybe its based off it?
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When Fai speaks in his... "native" language we really see russian letters. But some figures and other symbols are used there as well (like $<@#).
I think it's just another one way to show the difference between the worlds, nothing more :keke:
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Hrmm...yeah. If I were to imagine Fai's language I'd imagine it was something like Russian or because his writing looks like Runes...maybe something of a celtic region?
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Actually last time i thought of it i finally understood what in Fai seems familiar to me. You may laugh but both his appearence and character remind me of elves :heh:. I mean he has light hair and blue eyes, he is tall and thin, elegant, graceful and quick and he prefers fighting in distance (using bow and darts), he is not fond of hard work which requires physical strengh... I think he cares of his appearence, especially when he choses clithes... what else? He is wise, (pretends to be) happy and optimistic, he is good at drawing and likes music. So...
OK, it was just another crazy random thought, forget it :)
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Well Fai's other half of his language is that of magic symbols and other things, which I'm not to sure I should post the web site because of some bad things on it, I'll try to find a safer web site, but it is called the Malachim, as its a mixtrue of Greek and Hebrew wrighting.
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Actually last time i thought of it i finally understood what in Fai seems familiar to me. You may laugh but both his appearence and character remind me of elves :heh:. I mean he has light hair and blue eyes, he is tall and thin, elegant, graceful and quick and he prefers fighting in distance (using bow and darts), he is not fond of hard work which requires physical strengh... I think he cares of his appearence, especially when he choses clithes... what else? He is wise, (pretends to be) happy and optimistic, he is good at drawing and likes music. So...
OK, it was just another crazy random thought, forget it :)
Fai does resemble a kind of Tolkien-esque elf, doesn't he? The name 'Fay' actually means 'fairy or elf'. Then again, it's listed as a girl's name on babynames.com. He's fair, elegant and has a sad beauty to him, just like the elves in Middle Earth do. And he uses a bow in Shurano! Hee!
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Actually, a lot of fans think that Fai's origin is Russian. Well blame it on the eurasian look (blonde hair, blue eyes) and probably, because the climate in Celes is cold, just like Siberia (Russia).
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Or Icelandic? I mean the sterotype of Russians isn't really fair skinned beautful blondes, is it? That's more of an Icelandic thing. Russians are like mad, dark, hairy vodka drinkers. No offence to Russians, here! It's the sterotype!
I don't really see much of a resemblance between Tolkien eleves and Fai to be honest. The elves in his books are mostly arrogant to way too "airy fairy". Fai is much more down to Earth and let's not forget that Tolkien usually makes his elves as perfection, Fai has many flaws. And they usually have long hair...and pointy ears....and are respectful...*listens as Fai screams "Kuro-puu!"*
I love Fai, he's so damn cute. I'm going to start RPing him.
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If someone came to Fai and asked if he were particuarly loyal, what do you think he would say/react, I'm debating quite a few options, but I don't know which one to go for...
Maybe that it would remind him of Ashura, his smile would falter but then he'd fall back into his role again, or maybe he would be sneaky about answering or maybe he react the same way when Yuuko asked him for his tatoo, with that grin again? I just can't decide.
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If someone came to Fai and asked if he were particuarly loyal, what do you think he would say/react, I'm debating quite a few options, but I don't know which one to go for...
Maybe that it would remind him of Ashura, his smile would falter but then he'd fall back into his role again, or maybe he would be sneaky about answering or maybe he react the same way when Yuuko asked him for his tatoo, with that grin again? I just can't decide.
well in the manga, he said he'd help Syaoran find the feathers so long as it doesnt threaten his life (he daid it i think in vol 1 or 2) but friendships grew and now he'd probably do ANYthing save for magic for his friends. Show content
tho in ch 108 he used magic to save the gang, so yeah, he's loyal enough o save his friends
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To me he seems quite Elvish; ageless, mysterious and magical, but he's also a lot more human in that he's quite a flawed character. I don't know about him being particularly loyal, I think if he was asked he'd say "of course" and wonder why he'd been asked. I don't think any of his companions would ask that though, they have no reason to doubt him as far as they're concerned. Kurogane's scratched the surface the most, so I guess he'd be the most likely to ask, but then I don't think he totally trusts Fai anyway.
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I actually like his character, more than Syaoran or Kuro-pin. It's fun to watch him annoy the hell out of Kuro-pin to no end. His personality along with Sakura's gives humor to the series. And seriously, Kurogane would only be a boring extra without Fai at his side.
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I actually like his character, more than Syaoran or Kuro-pin. It's fun to watch him annoy the hell out of Kuro-pin to no end. His personality along with Sakura's gives humor to the series. And seriously, Kurogane would only be a boring extra without Fai at his side.
Hai! But the same sorta goes for Fai too - without Kuro he might be ..fairly ..bland.. ( I love Fai, but the humour of his relationship with Kuro is the best bit of the series for me and the source of most of the Fai!Humour. Without Kuro he'd just be like.. 'happy' all the time until he got tired of it and then decended into constant Emo!Fai and left or died. Oh! And! It's like Kuro made him see the point of living his life properly again, ye? :3 ... ). So uhm. In short, neither of their characters would be half as awesome without the other (and I honestly think I woulda given up reading Tsubasa a while ago if there was no KuroFai).
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Yeah, I love Fai and Kurogane, they're my favourites :) They're certainly the reson I read Tsubasa, if it was just s+s I don't think I'd bother
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Hai! But the same sorta goes for Fai too - without Kuro he might be ..fairly ..bland.. ( I love Fai, but the humour of his relationship with Kuro is the best bit of the series for me and the source of most of the Fai!Humour. Without Kuro he'd just be like.. 'happy' all the time until he got tired of it and then decended into constant Emo!Fai and left or died. Oh! And! It's like Kuro made him see the point of living his life properly again, ye? :3 ... ). So uhm. In short, neither of their characters would be half as awesome without the other (and I honestly think I woulda given up reading Tsubasa a while ago if there was no KuroFai).
If we talk of THAT, there's one interesting thing. A person i know (just a little) is interested in psychology and she is studiing it. And she made some character analysis using some tests. As a result Fai turned out to be INFP (don't ask what it is, i don't know all these termins), while Kurogane was ESTP. AND the type of their RELATIONSHIP is dual. To make it short this is the most perfect type of relationship, when two persons become one. Thanks to their difference the 1st gives to the 2nd what the 2nd lacks, and vice versa, so they make some kind of exchange and have a great influence on each other. They become essential part of each other's life, though usually they don't realize it until lose each other. Eh, I guess this post is more kuroxfaiish, then faiish :sweatdrop:... oh well!
(By the way Sakura and Sayo are different types of persons, but they also have THIS KIND of relationship - dual. So we have two perfect couples here :keke:)
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Fai is a INFP, here is a web site, it sounds a lot like Fai.
http://www.typelogic.com/infp.html
If you look some more you could find Kuro's and the others.
I never seemed to look at it in a psychology way.
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Fai is a INFP, here is a web site, it sounds a lot like Fai.
http://www.typelogic.com/infp.html
If you look some more you could find Kuro's and the others.
I never seemed to look at it in a psychology way.
wow, that sorta describes fai's persona on the dime.
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So, in short Fai without KUrogane (and vice versa) would be Yin without Yang? AM I making sense?
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So, in short Fai without KUrogane (and vice versa) would be Yin without Yang? AM I making sense?
yup. thats right. even if people ARENT fans of the paring, you GOTTA have them both togethr ^_^
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So...so true. Imagie Tsubasa without them...it would be so boring then. ANyway, when do you think Fai's past will be confirmed. What if CLAMP will never do that?
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ANyway, when do you think Fai's past will be confirmed. What if CLAMP will never do that?
then we'll all go hunt them down and demand to know what fai did in his past that caused him so much pain :keke:
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Hai! But the same sorta goes for Fai too - without Kuro he might be ..fairly ..bland.. ( I love Fai, but the humour of his relationship with Kuro is the best bit of the series for me and the source of most of the Fai!Humour. Without Kuro he'd just be like.. 'happy' all the time until he got tired of it and then decended into constant Emo!Fai and left or died. Oh! And! It's like Kuro made him see the point of living his life properly again, ye? :3 ... ). So uhm. In short, neither of their characters would be half as awesome without the other (and I honestly think I woulda given up reading Tsubasa a while ago if there was no KuroFai).
I agree!
Ahahaha...y'know, I had just switched from S+S to F+K when I wrote my first post here... too bad I voted for S+S first on the poll...
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Ahh! The next 2 episodes are likely going to be about Fai! A date with a Sorceror and The origins of Ashura..
I swear, I nearly fell off my chair to Fai's recation to sushi! *SQUEE* XD
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Demo, I thought 'the origins of Ashura' was referring to the beginning of the Shurano arc?And also, who else saw the wonderful Fai/Ashura splash page for 117? I think it's pretty unlikely now that they were enemies, or fighting over the throne, as Del Rey seems to like to believe.
(I also hope it means we'll get some Fai backstory soon).
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Demo, I thought 'the origins of Ashura' was referring to the beginning of the Shurano arc?And also, who else saw the wonderful Fai/Ashura splash page for 117? I think it's pretty unlikely now that they were enemies, or fighting over the throne, as Del Rey seems to like to believe.
(I also hope it means we'll get some Fai backstory soon).
Eee, that splash page is awesome (mostly because it hints towards past FaixAshura which means there's a chance that the fact TRC is published in a shounen magazine wont hinder any possible future relationship between Kuro and Fai ;D *deep breath* )
When does Del Rey suggest that? (hasnt re-read the del-rey books in a while)
And I hope we get /some/ Fai in the next chapter-or-so (Backstory, or some interaction with Kuro-tan ;D). I dont think he's even been in the manga for a few chapters (not counting splash pages..), but this might suggest that something big will happen after we're over this Kamui&Syaoran bit of plot Fai-wise, y'know?
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The splash page made my head explode... in a good way. It is so beautiful!
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When does Del Rey suggest that? (hasnt re-read the del-rey books in a while)
I'm not really sure, to tell you the truth. In some sort of character description Del Rey described Fai and Ashura as "most likely" being rivals for the throne or something. But then I think they changed it when they re-printed it or...?
It's actually something I've read about and not actually read (is that bad, lol?).
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waiii... it's hard to imagine Fai to be Ashura's rival for the throne. I can't imagine him being anymore than Celes's wizard. ^^'
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judging with the latest splash page,
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with fai resting his head on ashura's lap ;_;
maybe there was more than just a "wizard/king relationship. my moneys on something like ashura finding a feather and becoming poer hungry, forcing fai to do something devistating and fai having to seal ashura up.
but definatly id betr it had to do with a feather. maybe the spalsh hints that more of fai's past will be reveiled really really soon.
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I saw the splash and almost died, it was like OOO MEE GOOOODDDD.........
I want Fai's past now darnit.......CLAMP, We love you, and yet we hate you at the same time...... Well, this splash will be talked about for a while.....
Who's ready for the Next TRC Epi with Chi in it? I can't wait, I wonder what Fai will do...
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Anyone think of FaixAshura ? In the lastest splashpage, Fai looks so content on Ashura's lap.... They looks like a 'couble' ^^""
But I do hope we will se his past soon ~
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Yup. I support FaixKuro, but FaixAshura too.
And I would just LOVE to see a battle between Ashura and Kurogane... As can be found in lots of fanfics! XD
I'm guessing they had some sort of relationship. But why Fai would have to seal Ashura is beyond me. Could it really be because of a feather? It could've been that Fai was scared, after accidentally wrecking Ceres country with some stray magic. ^^'
We'll have to wait for CLAMP to explain it. Ngggh...
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Subara appears
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I think my exact reaction to the splash page was, "ZOMG?"!?! DHFLIHFSGSSaaa!"
What does the text on it mean? Maybe it'll give another hint into the relationship.
Yeah, I'm a big FaixKuro fan too. But we so need more Fai backstory!
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Waii... I read something in this thread about Fai BEING the feather. I just hope it's not THAT. I mean, Fai looked pretty feather-ish (to me) at the chapter 117 splashpage. OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!
When ARE they releasing the episode with CHii in it? You think Hideki might be in it too????? Ever wonder about Fai x Chii???? I do....lol lots of questions.
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This is sorta getting off-topic, but I seriously hope Hideki is in the next episode. With TRC, Clamp seems to be trying to show us that couples who are 'meant to be' will find each other in every world (if they're both still alive). Chi and Hideki are probably the best example of one of these couples - it was sorta one of the main points of Chobits that they were meant to be together, yeah?
In Fai's world it's possible that they never had a chance to meet (Hideki died, maybe .__.? *points to all the dead people in Celes*)
So, I dont support FaixChi at all. Not only because my KuroFai shipping goes against it, but also because the very canon ChixHideki-ness of Chobits totally opposes it.
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Okay, I'm now convinced that the creature we see in the 2nd ending is Chii. First, I was a bit confused because the creature is pink, but then I thought "It'd be too obvious if the creature was blonde or blue."
Proof for the theory:
-Chii has animal ears, instead of robot ears.
-Fai pets Chii, in a way that one would pet a cat or dog.
... We need to see more of Chii! Well, maybe after seeing the Magician and the date episode, I can post some more proof?
But why Fai would turn his beloved childhood pet into a girl is beyond me. Maybe kinda like with Minoru and Yuzuki in Chobits? That Chii/Elda was Fai's sister (they do look alike) and she died. So then he created a 'clone'.
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Slightly off-topic, but there's a possibility. I mean, look at Ashura-ou, the Ashura in Shurano doesn't even know who Ashura-ou is and they're father/son! So maybe....But I doubt that the animal is Chii. The manga doesn't mention it and after seeing the last few filler episodes so far, I don't know what to believe anymore hehe.
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Waii... I read something in this thread about Fai BEING the feather. I just hope it's not THAT. I mean, Fai looked pretty feather-ish (to me) at the chapter 117 splashpage. OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!
Feather? What feather? Not Sakura's feather, right?
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Feather? What feather? Not Sakura's feather, right?
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he manifested himself because Ashura was using him (it?) for evil. she basicaly did it because of what the tatoo resembles...
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Yup. I support FaixKuro, but FaixAshura too.
And I would just LOVE to see a battle between Ashura and Kurogane... As can be found in lots of fanfics! XD
I'm guessing they had some sort of relationship. But why Fai would have to seal Ashura is beyond me. Could it really be because of a feather? It could've been that Fai was scared, after accidentally wrecking Ceres country with some stray magic. ^^'
It's possible for there to have been a feather in Ceres, but I kind of doubt it because then that means that Syaoran-tachi would have to land there. And that just makes it unfair to Fai's wish, because after all, he did sacrifice his tatoo thingy.
Wait a minute....then again...Yuuku never really said that she was going to grant their wishes...she just provided the means of transportation across demensions...hmmm. Proof of that is because if Yuuku had specifically granted their wishes, they would of landed in a demension with a feather everytime.
As for the AshuraxFai pic....When I first saw it, I sat at the computer and pointed at the screen yelling canon until the shock was over. XD
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It's possible for there to have been a feather in Ceres, but I kind of doubt it because then that means that Syaoran-tachi would have to land there. And that just makes it unfair to Fai's wish, because after all, he did sacrifice his tatoo thingy.
Wait a minute....then again...Yuuku never really said that she was going to grant their wishes...she just provided the means of transportation across demensions...hmmm. Proof of that is because if Yuuku had specifically granted their wishes, they would of landed in a demension with a feather everytime.
true, something like that happens in the fic "I capture the Castle" Fai accuses yuuko of breaking their deal, but she goes and says "i never said i would actualy grant them, only give you the means" or something like that.
also, Ashura could just break the seal and bring the feather TO them, and thats probly how kurofai would be cannoned, kuro protecting fai nonstop X-3
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Ooh! I think it would be very interesting if the group landed in Ceres. Of course, it'd be cruel to Fai, but then we'd probably for sure learn his past. It's going very slow in the manga, but at least Kurogane is trying to squeeze some information out of him now.
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Ooh! I think it would be very interesting if the group landed in Ceres. Of course, it'd be cruel to Fai, but then we'd probably for sure learn his past. It's going very slow in the manga, but at least Kurogane is trying to squeeze some information out of him now.
Kurogane needs to 'squeeze' him harder, cuz I want to know now! XD
Speaking of which, Kurogane, no matter how he denies it, is interested in Fai's past. Yet Fai....he doesn't seem to care about Kurogane's past does he? I don't remember if it was mentioned to Fai or Sakura, that Syaoran saw Kurogane's past though..maybe that's why he doesn't ask? Or is because our cute little mage is so self centered, he doesn't care? *Thinks back to what he said to Mokona in Oto*
Hmmm....Fai is so mysterious...
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Kurogane needs to 'squeeze' him harder, cuz I want to know now! XD
Speaking of which, Kurogane, no matter how he denies it, is interested in Fai's past. Yet Fai....he doesn't seem to care about Kurogane's past does he? I don't remember if it was mentioned to Fai or Sakura, that Syaoran saw Kurogane's past though..maybe that's why he doesn't ask? Or is because our cute little mage is so self centered, he doesn't care? *Thinks back to what he said to Mokona in Oto*
Hmmm....Fai is so mysterious...
actualy when kuro said "i dont care about your past" he more or less means that he doesnt care what fai did, even if fai had done something as terrible as destroy his world.
and i think that fai and sakura know that syao saw kuro's past, but they dont know WHAT syao saw.
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actualy when kuro said "i dont care about your past" he more or less means that he doesnt care what fai did, even if fai had done something as terrible as destroy his world.
and i think that fai and sakura know that syao saw kuro's past, but they dont know WHAT syao saw.
Hnn, but I figured that when Fai grabbed the book from Syaoran- or atleast tried to- I don't think the pages really worked together as suddenly Sakura had it in her hands the next page- but maybe Fai saw a bit about Kuro's past too? Although I'm doubting this myself ^^;
And I don't really think that the group will fall into Celes Country... It was after all Fai's wish, and they worked out this whole intricate way of letting the reader know Kuro's past without visiting his Japan (poor Kuro-pon XD), so I'm guessing somehow, someway, Fai's past will be shown without them visiting Celes Country as well.
That, OR Ashura wakes up and stalks Fai through dimensions. XD; With the help of a feather, like Dr Kyle.
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That, OR Ashura wakes up and stalks Fai through dimensions. XD; With the help of a feather, like Dr Kyle.
I don't think feathers give you the power to travel dimensions, because then Syaoran-tachi wouldn't need cute and cuddly Mokona. I wonder though, if Ashura does wake up, could he travel demesions that freely? Or would it be like Fai, that he can only do it once, because I get the feeling that Ashura will be the one coming to them.
Although that stalker idea sounds funny to me XD
actualy when kuro said "i dont care about your past" he more or less means that he doesnt care what fai did, even if fai had done something as terrible as destroy his world.
I know I know but what I meant when I said that, is that Kurogane says that what happened in Fai's past isn't important, because it didn't involve him. But he still wants to know what it was that led Fai to his wish of never returning, or else Kurogane wouldn't bug Fai about it as much. ^^;
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I don't think feathers give you the power to travel dimensions, because then Syaoran-tachi wouldn't need cute and cuddly Mokona. I wonder though, if Ashura does wake up, could he travel demesions that freely? Or would it be like Fai, that he can only do it once, because I get the feeling that Ashura will be the one coming to them.
Although that stalker idea sounds funny to me XD
Unless Ashura is really very powerful. It's unlikely that he's so strong that he can travel dimensions using his own magic, but didn't Yuuko say that she wasn't the only one able to do so on her own? If he can, then I see why Fai doesn't want to meet up with him again.
know I know but what I meant when I said that, is that Kurogane says that what happened in Fai's past isn't important, because it didn't involve him. But he still wants to know what it was that led Fai to his wish of never returning, or else Kurogane wouldn't bug Fai about it as much. ^^;
Agreed. Kurogane's just being to stubborn. I think his interest is cute, though.
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I don't think feathers give you the power to travel dimensions, because then Syaoran-tachi wouldn't need cute and cuddly Mokona. I wonder though, if Ashura does wake up, could he travel demesions that freely? Or would it be like Fai, that he can only do it once, because I get the feeling that Ashura will be the one coming to them.
Although that stalker idea sounds funny to me XD
its been hinted more or less that fai is uber powerful, maybe even moreso than ashura, but maybe with the power of a fewather, it could boost his powers and enable him to dimension jump. ive seen it in several fics that ashura uses the feahter to easily dimesnion hop easily, like seishiro can.
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Or, maybe Ashura will awaken and send himself to Yuuko's shop,
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just like Syaoran2!
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He's probably got the power to dimension-travel at least once, as Fai was able to do it and yet Fai was only just able to seal Ashura.
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just like Syaoran2!
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He's probably got the power to dimension-travel at least once, as Fai was able to do it and yet Fai was only just able to seal Ashura.
i think thats the most fai WANTED to do. i dont think he had the heart to kill him because 2 things could be:1 he's killed to much, IE possibly destroyed his world?? and 2 they were lovers and he couldnt bring himself to do something like that.
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What want to know is what was up with all those dead people in that one little panel in chapter 2. It's always bugged me, I wonder if Fai killed them or Ashura killed them or what *shrugs*
woo, run-on sentences!
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What want to know is what was up with all those dead people in that one little panel in chapter 2. It's always bugged me, I wonder if Fai killed them or Ashura killed them or what *shrugs* woo, run-on sentences!
Well, Ashura, in RG Veda, -is- the God of War, and there was magic aplenty, so maybe they had a lover's quarrel and the world had to pay? X3
No, I'm guessing it was more Ashura's thing, and Fai felt obliged to seal him maybe. I don't think it was Fai's doing (although it'd be pretty darn interesting if it was XD).
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Well, Ashura, in RG Veda, -is- the God of War, and there was magic aplenty, so maybe they had a lover's quarrel and the world had to pay? X3
No, I'm guessing it was more Ashura's thing, and Fai felt obliged to seal him maybe. I don't think it was Fai's doing (although it'd be pretty darn interesting if it was XD).
Why would Fai be leaving the pool then, if he wasn't the one who sealed him? Hm.
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Why would Fai be leaving the pool then, if he wasn't the one who sealed him? Hm.
I meant that the bodies weren't Fai's doing, but Ashura's. Probably. XD
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I meant that the bodies weren't Fai's doing, but Ashura's. Probably. XD
Nyaaa, I see. It would be weird if Fai had killed them, eh? But knowing how ~mysterious~ Fai is, you never know.
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Nyaaa, I see. It would be weird if Fai had killed them, eh? But knowing how ~mysterious~ Fai is, you never know.
Hah! It would be so cool if Fai turned out to be the bad guy. XD
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Hah! It would be so cool if Fai turned out to be the bad guy. XD
Waaah. I don't want him to be the bad guy, so I really hope he doesn't turn out to be. Right now I am torn between him having been the bad guy, killing all those people and then sealing Ashura, but that makes no sense because then why would he leave? And the other is that Ashura was going postal on everyone in Ceres and Fai sealed him away to stop him. Eh. Dunno. Ugh, I hate CLAMP for keeping us guessing like this XD Well, not really hate them because I love them, but it's frustrating.
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It's possible for there to have been a feather in Ceres, but I kind of doubt it because then that means that Syaoran-tachi would have to land there. And that just makes it unfair to Fai's wish, because after all, he did sacrifice his tatoo thingy.
Wait a minute....then again...Yuuku never really said that she was going to grant their wishes...she just provided the means of transportation across demensions...hmmm. Proof of that is because if Yuuku had specifically granted their wishes, they would of landed in a demension with a feather everytime.
As for the AshuraxFai pic....When I first saw it, I sat at the computer and pointed at the screen yelling canon until the shock was over. XD
you r right.... and that would mean that yuuko-san would have to return the payment....and yuuko strictly said "u cannot take back ur payment.....(or something like that.. :heh:)" :haha:[/color]
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Waaah. I don't want him to be the bad guy, so I really hope he doesn't turn out to be. Right now I am torn between him having been the bad guy, killing all those people and then sealing Ashura, but that makes no sense because then why would he leave? And the other is that Ashura was going postal on everyone in Ceres and Fai sealed him away to stop him. Eh. Dunno. Ugh, I hate CLAMP for keeping us guessing like this XD Well, not really hate them because I love them, but it's frustrating.
Ah, because Fai-knowledge is so scarce, you can think up anything.. I think that's CLAMP's plan. XD You can maybe imagine that Fai had loved ones in the world (likely!), and maybe Ashura killed them so Fai went postal with his magic, lost control (as he's hinted to be very powerful), and killed everyone? @_@ And then he was so frightened about what he'd done and how Ashura would punish him that he sealed him and ran off, unable to stand watching everyone he killed?
You can make up stories as you go. I'd rather really... not, as, like you, I don't want Fai to be the bad guy. It'd make for a nice plot-twist, but I don't want to. ;_;
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Ah, because Fai-knowledge is so scarce, you can think up anything.. I think that's CLAMP's plan. XD You can maybe imagine that Fai had loved ones in the world (likely!), and maybe Ashura killed them so Fai went postal with his magic, lost control (as he's hinted to be very powerful), and killed everyone? @_@ And then he was so frightened about what he'd done and how Ashura would punish him that he sealed him and ran off, unable to stand watching everyone he killed?
You can make up stories as you go. I'd rather really... not, as, like you, I don't want Fai to be the bad guy. It'd make for a nice plot-twist, but I don't want to. ;_;
For all we know, his past could be something like:
Fai was Ashura's royal hairstylist. One day, Fai cut Ashura's hair too short. Therefore, Ashura, in a mad rampage over the damage of his beautiful ebony locks, killed everyone in Ceres. Fai was so mad that someone would ever take such offense to his beautiful handiwork that he sealed Ashura and turned his hair colouring specialist Chii into a shield to keep Ashura sealed in.
Omg, anyway, I really like the theory you put forth. It's a very Fai-ish reaction if he had done something so horrible (and unintentional) *snif snif* But why would Ashura do that, when they looked so err, satisfied in the splash for chapter 117? LOVE GONE SOUR :sad5: Plot twists be damned, I want Fai to be good and angsty D:
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For all we know, his past could be something like:
Fai was Ashura's royal hairstylist. One day, Fai cut Ashura's hair too short. Therefore, Ashura, in a mad rampage over the damage of his beautiful ebony locks, killed everyone in Ceres. Fai was so mad that someone would ever take such offense to his beautiful handiwork that he sealed Ashura and turned his hair colouring specialist Chii into a shield to keep Ashura sealed in.
Omg, anyway, I really like the theory you put forth. It's a very Fai-ish reaction if he had done something so horrible (and unintentional) *snif snif* But why would Ashura do that, when they looked so err, satisfied in the splash for chapter 117? LOVE GONE SOUR :sad5: Plot twists be damned, I want Fai to be good and angsty D:
...I think Fai would make a great hairstylist ^___^ XDDD I'm scared to poke the rest of your theory, though. o_o Maybe Ashura just wanted Fai to be his puppy, and Fai would only make kitty noises? Or maybe Ashura wanted Fai to be his kitty, but Fai will only be a kitty for Kuro? >3
But... none of the CLAMP splash pages make any sense! @__@ I mean.. the Sakura thing in which she sits among flowers, and then it says "I was afraid, if I even blinked once, you would vanish between the flowers" or something like that. That had my eye twitching for a while. XD;;;
Fai's best angsty, but CLAMP mustn't overdo it ;_;
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...I think Fai would make a great hairstylist ^___^ XDDD I'm scared to poke the rest of your theory, though. o_o Maybe Ashura just wanted Fai to be his puppy, and Fai would only make kitty noises? Or maybe Ashura wanted Fai to be his kitty, but Fai will only be a kitty for Kuro? >3
But... none of the CLAMP splash pages make any sense! @__@ I mean.. the Sakura thing in which she sits among flowers, and then it says "I was afraid, if I even blinked once, you would vanish between the flowers" or something like that. That had my eye twitching for a while. XD;;;
Fai's best angsty, but CLAMP mustn't overdo it ;_;
Hahaha, cracktheories are the best to keep me awake at 5 am while I worry about finals I have to take tomorrow XD I like the kitty theory, if only because I see Kuro's name thrown in there :3
Sometimes CLAMP's splash pages end up making sense in some later chapter when you are like OH SO THAT IS WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE SPLASH PAGE 20 CHAPTERS AGO o_o Hopefully that splash page will be explained sooner rather than later, hehe.
CLAMP mustn't overdo it with the angst because they need to save up all their angst for Kamui whenever they decide to finish X. He's had 3 years worth of X angst building up so CLAMP needs to get ready for whenever they feel like continuing, grrr.
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For all we know, his past could be something like:
Fai was Ashura's royal hairstylist. One day, Fai cut Ashura's hair too short. Therefore, Ashura, in a mad rampage over the damage of his beautiful ebony locks, killed everyone in Ceres. Fai was so mad that someone would ever take such offense to his beautiful handiwork that he sealed Ashura and turned his hair colouring specialist Chii into a shield to keep Ashura sealed in.
Omg that was funny XD
I couldn't stop laughing at that for a good 5 minutes lol.
I've thought about this for a while but....why did Fai place Ashura underwater...? I mean did he seal him underwater or did he put him there afterwards o_o?
I have a feeling that the reason leading up to Ashura getting sealed had something to Yuuko and her ability to grant wishes. You see...how did Fai even know about her? Well techinically he didn't know her, because they didn't know each other's names but Fai knew exactly where to go so he must of heard of her from somewhere sometime in Celes..... this is so confusing. All the possibilities as to what happened...head going dizzy @_@
Damn you CLAMP T_T *cries*
My head hurts! See what you've done! x_x;;;
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fai probably found out about her in a similar way that Yukito knew of her. i think tomoyo knows her personaly, (or am i thinking of many fanfics like that) but still, fai probably herad about her thru the grapevine,
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I think we're missing a key element here: the water. What does the water seal out? Does it seal out bad vibes (of the feather, perhaps?), does it seal out his magic, does it block Ashura from sensing Fai's magic? o_o
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Yeah, the water is to seal out other powers, so its a sheld, along with another barrier, that being Chi, and the depth in the water cave as well must be very deep. This is used to keep people in and out. Here's also a website people can look at, talks about the water and what it can do.
http://www.santharia.com/magic/water_magic.htm
It reminds me of Fai in many ways, I will also look into the moon, and how it works with Fai and the others.
and how did Fai find out about the time witch? Maybe from other wizards and his own teacher and what not, or maybe seeing in the pool of water, and finding about her that way.
Speaking of water, have you read chapter 118, OMG, Fai, what are you going to do.
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Yeah, the water is to seal out other powers, so its a sheld, along with another barrier, that being Chi, and the depth in the water cave as well must be very deep. This is used to keep people in and out. Here's also a website people can look at, talks about the water and what it can do.
http://www.santharia.com/magic/water_magic.htm
It reminds me of Fai in many ways, I will also look into the moon, and how it works with Fai and the others.
and how did Fai find out about the time witch? Maybe from other wizards and his own teacher and what not, or maybe seeing in the pool of water, and finding about her that way.
Speaking of water, have you read chapter 118, OMG, Fai, what are you going to do.
Ooh, interesting, thanks for the link <3
Well I suppose Fai must've had a teacher... I hope his teacher wasn't Ashura, though. >_> Maybe Ashura staged the whole thing so Fai could claim some power for him? Maybe that's why Fai doesn't want to get too close to the others- he's afraid he'll be hurt when he has to betray the others.
I know! Excitement excitement! @__@ I hope he goes and fights Clone-Syaoran. Teh cool XD OR MAGIC!
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Waaahhhh... i can see that happening exactly, that Fai must be working for the bad guyzzzzz and in the end he'll betray the other but he doesn't want to because he's gotten close to them. NOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! DARN YOU CLAMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Waaahhhh... i can see that happening exactly, that Fai must be working for the bad guyzzzzz and in the end he'll betray the other but he doesn't want to because he's gotten close to them. NOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! DARN YOU CLAMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know, the more I think about it, the more it sounds plausible xD; It would be just like CLAMP to kick the reader when he's down (or really, a rabid Fai fangirl XD).
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I've totally been playing around with the Fai is bad theory for a while and I reaaaaally don't want it to happen, but I can see it happening.
Well, we won't know anything until this whole thing is resolved ^^;
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I agree, the evil!Fai idea just breaks my heart. I love him too much for him to turn evil and betray the group, but I really don't see it happening.
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I can see Fai doing something semi-evil in his past... but currently I think he's come to care for his companions, so he won't betray them so easily when push comes to shove.
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Yes, I hope you're right. Evil Fai is nice to watch, but it pains my heart....nyu....if he does turn out to be evil in the end, he'll probably hesitate to hurt (or kill) Kuro-chan and the others and end up hurting (or...gulp killing) himself instead. GYAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Personally, I don't think he's going to turn out to be very evil, maybe selfish or something along those lines, but certainly not malicious. I mean, I feel that there would have been some sort of hint towards that. And yes, we've gotten a lot of dark looks from the guy, but nothing overly malicious in nature.
...Not that I can think of, anyway! Fai suggesting they kidnap the Ryanban in Koryo, maybe.
Hahaha, I just contradicted my own post :dodge:
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Well I think Fai might have been a general in a war and a tactiction, assasination on the side, come on look at Outo with those darts, why else would he fight so well, and have a great plan at the same time?
Fai might have gotten tired of war in his world, and want to know what it was like with out it, well travling with Kuro and the others, its awalys bound to be a war. I'm just waiting for 119 and going crazy......
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Well I think Fai might have been a general in a war and a tactiction, assasination on the side, come on look at Outo with those darts, why else would he fight so well, and have a great plan at the same time?
Kurogane and Syaoran were pretty convinced than Fai was a "combat veteran" back in Hanshin, so I think that's pretty likely. I could see Fai and Ashura-ou getting involved in some pretty complicated plotting between the two of them.
I don't think Fai's likely to turn on the main Tsubasa group, as he really seems to care about them, but as to whether he played the "good guy" back Celes...in the very least, he seems to be blaming himself for something, hence the *ANGST*.
I can imagine Fai and Ashura-ou causing something really horrible to happen while only having the best of intentions. Or some good intentions, at any rate. Ashura-ou was always an "ends justify the means" kind of guy...
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Fai is a very mysterious character, and I think that besides Syaoran, he intrigues the reader with the lack of information we get out of him or his past.
It is very annoying at times when we get to know more of Sakura, Syaoran and Kuroganes' past than the magicians'.
Even now in chapter 120, the newest chapter (don't worry no spoilers) Kurogane gets to talk to him again and the reader gets a bit more of information out of him..
But now at this heights of the manga, we know everything of Syaoran and the meaning behind his strange past- but we still have yet to discover what really happened in Fai's life.
Overall, I am rooted to the manga, this character is by far my favorite character of all.
I can see Fai running away from Ashura because he was more than his court magician.
Sorry if not all of you like yaoi, I mean no offence.
It is likely that Fai was in some sort of relationship with Ashura, perhaps best friends (like Yukito and Touya), war veterans or even more than that.
It could be possible, since we (the reader) get hints of yaoi from one of the side stories in Tsubasa (Shurano/sharano with Ashura-ou and Yasha-ou beinga couple) CLAMP has many strange couples and ideas, then again their originality and style in their stories is what made them what tehy are today.
Then again, he could've been his most powerful mage/soldier and used him in a way so horrific that he was forced to turn against his own king because he realized too late that he was being used for such malicious cause....
Or something of that sort of nature.
Man... I could go on and on, but I have to shut up now ^^;
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Okay, so we've established this much about Fai's backstory:
-Something bad happened in Celes, resulting in all those dead bodies.
-Said situation is probably the fault of Fai and/or Ashura-ou. Neither of whom we believe to be evil.
-Ashura-ou has some reason to chase Fai when he awakens. Fai does not wish to face Ashura-ou.
-Fai may have been in a relationship with Ashura-ou. They have a pretty splash page.
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resides in his eyes.
He can use magic without the marking. His magic is powerful.
-He created Chii, and has turned her into a kind of magical alarm system so she can warn him if Ashura-ou awakens.
-Fai has some reason to believe that people will be hurt by getting involved with him. (Not sure how this is relevant, but it seems important.)
Anything else?
Now that I think of it, what if the situation in Celes was caused by neither Fai nor Ashura-ou?
Looking at volume 1, am I correct in believing that before Fai leaves, he wishes that Ashura-ou may have good dreams while he's asleep? I'm definitely seeing affection there.
CLAMP, will you please, please throw me a bone here? What's up with Ashura-ou?!
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i still think that FWR did something in celes just like he did something in japan to turn kuro into who he is. maybe FWR contrlolled ashura or bargained or something :-/
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I thought I wrote that Fei-Wang Reed bit down...that too.
-We are also of the opinion that FWR was somehow involved in the Celes Affair.
FWR doesn't seem to generally manipulate normal people (he just sends out his servants). So unless Ashura-ou was already working for him, that doesn't seem to be in FWR's style, nor Ashura-ou's for that matter - he tends to follow his own plans, though maybe a deal would have been acceptable. We don't have enough information to rule it out, though, so it's possibility.
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And kyaah! Read Chapitre 120 a few days back....Fai! Why did they do that to Fai? Stupid eye fetish!
They did it becaues kuro-rin is like a ninja and if Fai gets an eyepatch he'll be sort of like a pirate! This is CLAMP's twisted take on pirates vs ninjas!!! *laughs* I'm kidding...
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Mokona was GOD!!!
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and on another note, I'm sure most of us in this topic sould be more elated looking than Ashura-ou if Fai was draped on one of us!
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if he were, would soullessclone!Syaoran have noticed right away and reverted him to such, instead taking his eye? I mean, the clone is a regular feather-gathering machine, he should be able to tell things like that.
Hmm, if I had Fai draped over my legs I'd be like "...WTF are you doing?" and then probably try to get information about Celes out of him, fail, and space out like Ashura-ou. Eheh...
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I don't think Fai is a feather because Show content
if he were, would soullessclone!Syaoran have noticed right away and reverted him to such, instead taking his eye? I mean, the clone is a regular feather-gathering machine, he should be able to tell things like that.
Hmm, if I had Fai draped over my legs I'd be like "...WTF are you doing?" and then probably try to get information about Celes out of him, fail, and space out like Ashura-ou. Eheh...
true, very true...but this is CLAMP, so it could go either way.................. @__@ omg it gets to be confuseing and frusterateing >.<
*hee hee* Yeah, I just had to bring it up... But as the tag said... tis a good way to stay warm...(Just like when I go camping in october) People have to be somewhat close to do that and FWR does like to mess up families and friends, like the others, ao he probably did do something in Celes.
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I thought I wrote that Fei-Wang Reed bit down...that too.
-We are also of the opinion that FWR was somehow involved in the Celes Affair.
FWR doesn't seem to generally manipulate normal people (he just sends out his servants). So unless Ashura-ou was already working for him, that doesn't seem to be in FWR's style, nor Ashura-ou's for that matter - he tends to follow his own plans, though maybe a deal would have been acceptable. We don't have enough information to rule it out, though, so it's possibility.
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when they showed kuro's mom getting slayed, thats CLEARLY FWR doin the stabbing.(we only see the hand, but thats his robe thingy he wears) plus the ninjas said that it had to be a powerful sorcere to beable to break the powerful sutra
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I was wondering.....Fan thoughts, so don't take it to heart.....
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Ok, we all know that One, Fei-wang Reed messed with everyones life, assuming he also attacked Fai's world as well, for reasons to gain souls for whatever he wants to do, mostlikely messing with Fai's childhood, who later ends up being a Mage/? King? only to have it fall apart when Sakura's feather enters his would. As in the 1st manga, Fai knew what her feather looked like right away.
Two, Fai's magic is his eye's, while the tattoo was a controller or a protector for him, while he writes his powers with his words verses that of a magic circle, and that wistleing, no matter what he says, has something to do with his powers, be what may,
Three, Fai knew about Syaoran not being real from the start, but never said anything, because of what he saw in him was real, the memory of the princess that they had shared together while growing up.
Four, Fai's familary towards Kurogane, I have an Idea, since Fei-wang Reed messes with dimenshions, and Kuroganes father's body was never found, could be that it was eaten or lost, only his arm was found, maybe he was transported to Fai's world, where he found him, and helped him back to health??
Five, this crosses over to the CCS world, we all know that Syaoran of CCS is a decentant of Clow's Chinese bloodline, as is in TRC, but Clow also had a European blood line as well, which could be Fai himself, or a bloodline along the way.
well, its a guess, right, oww and I don't think Fai is dead
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well in the lecourt arc, in kuro's past (dont know if its a spoiler, but for those who havent read the manga) Show content
when they showed kuro's mom getting slayed, thats CLEARLY FWR doin the stabbing.(we only see the hand, but thats his robe thingy he wears) plus the ninjas said that it had to be a powerful sorcere to beable to break the powerful sutra
True, though that was a case of FWR directly interfering himself. I was just saying that there were no cases of him manipulating/controlling people in the worlds he messes with. It's probably not that important anyway, since just because we haven't seen him do that yet doesn't necessarily mean he won't. Actually now that I think of it, (spoiler for non-manga readers) Show content
he did manipulate those bunnies in the Country of Idols, didn't he? That world was a set up, so he must have done something to them.
I think that to manipulate Ashura-ou, FWR would have to make Ashura-ou think he was acting of his own free will. FWR is probably powerful enough to control Ashura-ou if he really wanted to (though Ashura-ou would have to be significantly powerful to be able to follow Fai through worlds, as Fai seems sure that he will). As for Fai...do you think Fai is the kind of person who can be manipulated? I think he is, but I can't clearly say why.
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Ok, we all know that One, Fei-wang Reed messed with everyones life, assuming he also attacked Fai's world as well, for reasons to gain souls for whatever he wants to do, mostlikely messing with Fai's childhood, who later ends up being a Mage/? King? only to have it fall apart when Sakura's feather enters his would. As in the 1st manga, Fai knew what her feather looked like right away.
Two, Fai's magic is his eye's, while the tattoo was a controller or a protector for him, while he writes his powers with his words verses that of a magic circle, and that wistleing, no matter what he says, has something to do with his powers, be what may,
Three, Fai knew about Syaoran not being real from the start, but never said anything, because of what he saw in him was real, the memory of the princess that they had shared together while growing up.
Four, Fai's familary towards Kurogane, I have an Idea, since Fei-wang Reed messes with dimenshions, and Kuroganes father's body was never found, could be that it was eaten or lost, only his arm was found, maybe he was transported to Fai's world, where he found him, and helped him back to health??
Five, this crosses over to the CCS world, we all know that Syaoran of CCS is a decentant of Clow's Chinese bloodline, as is in TRC, but Clow also had a European blood line as well, which could be Fai himself, or a bloodline along the way.
1. I still don't quite buy the "there's a feather in Celes" theory, but it's possible. I assumed Fai just noticed (probably with help from his magic) that there was a weird looking feather on Syaoran.
2. & 3. Yes.
4. That would be one strange coincedence - or rather, one strange case of hitsuzen. Sounds far-fetched to me.
5. It seems unlikely - Celes is a totally separate world from CCS's (otherwise Fai wouldn't have been travelling through dimensions to reach Yuuko's - it would have been time travel). Fai doesn't seem to be English either. Last time I was there, the climate in Great Britain wasn't quite that cold. Fai could possibly be related to his world's version of Clow, though it would be kind of...weird.
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I think that to manipulate Ashura-ou, FWR would have to make Ashura-ou think he was acting of his own free will. FWR is probably powerful enough to control Ashura-ou if he really wanted to (though Ashura-ou would have to be significantly powerful to be able to follow Fai through worlds, as Fai seems sure that he will). As for Fai...do you think Fai is the kind of person who can be manipulated? I think he is, but I can't clearly say why.
1. I still don't quite buy the "there's a feather in Celes" theory, but it's possible. I assumed Fai just noticed (probably with help from his magic) that there was a weird looking feather on Syaoran.
And on that note FWR must be far superior to Fai for Fai to not notice his magic.
As to beind manipulated, i dunno...fai might still have a trick or two up his sleeve.
yeah, he just knows magic, so he knew the feather...
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Another theory for the Fai-recognising-Kurotan business, that I personally quite like, is that later in the series (but not much later now o.o ) the group might get sent into Past!Celes, when Fai was younger, and they see some of his past that way. So, Fai would recognise Kuro, but Kuro would not have ever met Fai before being sent to the shop.
(Of course, that's just a wild theory that might've been half-inched from a fanfict somewhere that I forgot about >>'' And actually, Im not sure if I think Fai did recognise Kuro when they first met at Yuuko's place. It was probably more of a *didnt expect there to be other people here* kinda thing. But, it would bring the whole Shura/Shara thing back again... So yeah x3 Whatever actually happened, Im sure theres more to Fai's past than we could speculate about, 'cause CLAMP are so good at suprising fans with twists that we wouldnt've expected~ )
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hmm. well fai could have been familiar to kuro because maybe he senses tomoyo-hime's curse. if he could sense syaoaran's powers, he'd DEFINATLY recognize a simple little curse (which also may e why he has so much fun in anoying kuro. he KNOWS kuro wont really hurt him ^^
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While I like the idea of Kuro and Fai having some sort of past connection, I always percieved the Fai-recognizing-Kuro scene to be just Fai's surprise at there being someone beside him. After all, he probably expected to be the only one there at Yuuko's shop.
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Minna, do you think it's possible that the tatto in Fai's back isn't really a booster or blocker of magic? instead it's a lock or key for Ashura? coz y'see, someone pointed out that Fai's magic source is his eyes.. but then his most precious thing is his tattoo..
which means the tattoo is more important than his source of magic.. and his most important mission is to run away from ashura.... am i making any sense? :sweatdrop:
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That might make sense (after all, that coffin-shaped thing Ashura-ou is sealed in has the same symbol on it), except that Yuuko said Fai's marking was to limit/control his magic, saying that without it his magic was what it was originally meant to be, and he acknowledged this. I wonder why the symbol is on the coffin-seal-thing, though. It could be related to the importance of the marking, in some way, maybe?
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Hm, I haven't read your latest discussion topic here yet, but I wanted to say that I prefer the spelling "Fye". This is how they spell his name here in Germany.
Besides that, it fits him most, though this is a rather personal thing for me. I have synesthesia and Fye just matches his personality and colors so beautifully!
Anyway, he's my favourite character. Besides Mokona, Kurogane and Tomoyo. Sakura and Syaoran are also pretty cool! (And I totally dislike Chi in TRC :dodge:)
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First time poster ^_^
I have a little synaesthesia too! And I agree that 'Fye' is the prettiest and most fitting version of his name, lol....
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I have a little synaesthesia too! And I agree that 'Fye' is the prettiest and most fitting version of his name, lol....
Isn't bit? :keke: What is it like to you? For me, it's all curvy, elegant and blueish though the single letters' colors are blue, violet and green.
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To me, the single letters are light orange-yellow, darker orange and reddish-orange, though the name as seen as a whole is a general light orange-ish colour.... Bright and sunny like his personality! :greengrin:
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Sorry, but... what does synesthesia/synaesthesia mean? I'm confused.
I use the spelling "Fai" just because that's the one they use in the official English translation, and I first read Tsubasa in that translation.
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Synesthesia is, simply put, combined senses. For example, letters have personalities, genders, colors and sometimes surfaces to me. Then I get mental images from music and so on. Look it uo here: www.mixsig.net
Hope to have helped you :wink:
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Well, i liked him ever since the 1st book. mystery shrouds him in all directions and he's always poking fun at Kuro-san.
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Synesthesia is, simply put, combined senses. For example, letters have personalities, genders, colors and sometimes surfaces to me. Then I get mental images from music and so on. Look it uo here: www.mixsig.net
Hope to have helped you :wink:
Thank you for the info! That actually sounds pretty cool.
So, about Fai...any of you care to offer speculations about the whole Celes affair? About Fai's magic? Other things Fai-related? I'm currently too stuck on the way Fai is looking at Ashura-ou before he leaves to come up with anything. :heh:
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Thank you for the info! That actually sounds pretty cool.
No prob :wink:
So, about Fai...any of you care to offer speculations about the whole Celes affair? About Fai's magic? Other things Fai-related? I'm currently too stuck on the way Fai is looking at Ashura-ou before he leaves to come up with anything.
I don't really have many theories... But since I saw the splash page of chapter 117, I'm quite convinced he and Ashura had a thing going. I mean, they're sitting together in a verrry intimate manner and since Fye actually rests his head in his lap (!) I think that really indicates a very close relationship, doesn't it?
By the way, I personally am hoping for a nice and angsty KuroFye moment after Syaoran turns back to normal, of course under the condition Syao ever really does. I mean, though he never was keen on using it (and do we really know he wasn’t?) he kept his magic as a precious thing, in my opinion. And that being taken away is like taking a part of his soul away. Fye and his magic, even if he doesn’t use it, is just a unit, something that can’t be separated. What would he be without it? So I think it would be great if there would be an angsty scene of him, Kurogane and Syaoran. (Though I just know CLAMP won’t do me this favour.)
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did somebody ask for a pirat fai? ^^:
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(its based of the avatar systam on gaiaonline.com
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That's so cute! :icon_pirat:
About Fye and his magic:
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Don't know if this has been mentioned before, but in Chp 10 in the Hanshin Republic Syaoran says, when talking about Fye being used to fighting, "You can feel the power when you look into his eyes", and Kurogane replies with that "...." look of his and a "You are not as dumb as you look!". This made me think that maybe Syaoran unconsciously knew of the existence of power in Fye's eyes ever since the beginning,
Quotes from Be With You Scans ^^
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That's so cute! :icon_pirat:
About Fye and his magic:
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Don't know if this has been mentioned before, but in Chp 10 in the Hanshin Republic Syaoran says, when talking about Fye being used to fighting, "You can feel the power when you look into his eyes", and Kurogane replies with that "...." look of his and a "You are not as dumb as you look!". This made me think that maybe Syaoran unconsciously knew of the existence of power in Fye's eyes ever since the beginning,
Quotes from Be With You Scans ^^
Demo... I thought that just meant that Syaoran could see in Fai's eyes that he was an experienced warrior. People in manga and movies can always tell a whole load of stuff about you just by gazing into your eyes.
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I had an interesting idea over in The Rght Eye topic, someone there said that the left eye is supposed to be like the window to your mind or something, so what if now -because Syaoran now has Fai's left eye- he'll be able to see his past?
Although I think the only person Fai would tell his past to woudl be Kuro-muu...
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It would be such a disappointment if Fai's past wasn't revealed to the whole group... just
crazed!Syaoran. Just because I have a feeling that Fai's past is going to come back to haunt him and generally make trouble for the group.
Plus it'd be a major downer for KuroFai shippers (such as myself.)
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It would be such a disappointment if Fai's past wasn't revealed to the whole group... just
crazed!Syaoran. Just because I have a feeling that Fai's past is going to come back to haunt him and generally make trouble for the group.
Plus it'd be a major downer for KuroFai shippers (such as myself.)
Yup, it would! Who has the right to see or know about Fye's past if not Kurorin? He already made several attempts to get to know more about him, he's the one who cares most about Fye (if only by watching him very closely) and he's the one who pays the most attention to him. It would be so unfair if anyone else got to discover Fye's backgrounds first!
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Yeah, I think Kuro would find out about Fai's past 1st, considering what is happening, I think once this arc is over, its going to be about Fai for a while, wishful thinking.....hehe, CLAMP is so crule to their fans.....
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i hope that Fye's past is something unimagineable
or something really that takes your breath away... because otherwise
all this anticipation might be a little wasted... :(
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Yeah, I think Kuro would find out about Fai's past 1st, considering what is happening, I think once this arc is over, its going to be about Fai for a while, wishful thinking.....hehe, CLAMP is so crule to their fans.....
Actually i think not only Kuro will be the first, i think he's going to the ONLY ONE who will find it out. I have a feeling that Fai's past is VERY... hard (?), so Kuro will just tell him to leave it behind, and both of them will keep it between just them & not traumatize the kids psychics :heh:
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Actually i think not only Kuro will be the first, i think he's going to the ONLY ONE who will find it out. I have a feeling that Fai's past is VERY... hard (?), so Kuro will just tell him to leave it behind, and both of them will keep it between just them & not traumatize the kids psychics :heh:
Awesome idea, Chiaki! Come to think of it, I don't think the group could ever be as before when everyone knew what's been going on in Fye's past. Fye isn't the kind of person who runs away from Ashura just because he betrayed him, as it's often portrayed in fanfictions, even though it would hurt him deeply. In fact, I can't think of anything bad enough to make Fye run away and break so thoroughly. So it really has to have been pretty nasty what happened in Celes.
And now imagine everyone (the whole group, this is) would know about the cruel things (and maybe what he himself did, judging by his aura of heavy, heavy guilt).
I don't think they would ever be able to travel together as they always did. Maybe they'd even see him as a different person; remember, not everyone can be Kurogane. It would disturb the precarious balance in their companionship.
No, I really think it'd be best if there was a nice and angsty scene between Kurogane and Fye, with plenty H/C and then a saucy little speech from Kuro just as we love it. After that, everything goes on as before, at least from Syaos and Sakuras point of view. (Though I'm convinced they would at least notice some subtle change.)
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Kurogane definitely deserves to be the one to know about Fai's past, since he's the only one who gives us the hints! Kuro's worked for it, he deserves some kind of payoff after all the digging and protecting he's been doing lately.
And yeah, I think Kuro's going to tell Fai to forget about the past. Because, I mean, Kuro's not a saint either. He's a ninja. He's killed a whole whack of people. So Fai's past might not be AS shocking to someone like Kuro.
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Kurogane definitely deserves to be the one to know about Fai's past, since he's the only one who gives us the hints! Kuro's worked for it, he deserves some kind of payoff after all the digging and protecting he's been doing lately.
And yeah, I think Kuro's going to tell Fai to forget about the past. Because, I mean, Kuro's not a saint either. He's a ninja. He's killed a whole whack of people. So Fai's past might not be AS shocking to someone like Kuro.
Darn right you are! But I really am keen on Fye's past. I'd love it to contain some tragic love story, though it's such a cliché. Because I think this would be something Kuro could not wipe away so easily - I have the feeling in matters of romance and of the heart he's not quite as experienced as Fye. So maybe he won't be able to wipe it aside as easily as he would have done it if it had been a matter of violence and such. Maybe.
To be honest, now I'm completely clueless how everything will/cann/should be from thinking too much about it :sweatdrop:
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Demo... I thought that just meant that Syaoran could see in Fai's eyes that he was an experienced warrior. People in manga and movies can always tell a whole load of stuff about you just by gazing into your eyes.
Yeah, that's true, but the fact that Fye's eyes were mentioned in relation to 'power' makes me feel that, in a way, it might be Clamp's way of hinting that something is up with those eyes of his... Or maybe I'm just over-analysing everything, what with my eagerness to find out more about Fye :toothy12:
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i hope that Fye's past is something unimagineable
or something really that takes your breath away... because otherwise
all this anticipation might be a little wasted... :(
I hope his past isn't a major cliché...
I like the Fai pirate on page 19...*feels compelled to make an emo fai*
Yeah, that's true, but the fact that Fye's eyes were mentioned in relation to 'power' makes me feel that, in a way, it might be Clamp's way of hinting that something is up with those eyes of his... Or maybe I'm just over-analysing everything, what with my eagerness to find out more about Fye :toothy12:
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when devils having crushes on the lead man meant he was going to die
(not the best example... buy Fai's eyes are possible...
Here's a question for the masses:
Will fai get a new eye? or an eyepatch, or a magic thing, or a glass eye, or what, go eyeless? (my friend's cat lived without an eye...it didn't look too bad, so fai could do that too) Or, he could be like Hatori from Fruits Basket, who is low vision in his left eye, and just grow his hair longer over the missing one. (hence emo fai)
What do you think?
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Fai with an Eyepatch....hehehe..... i can see a fanfic in there somewhere, but then again, having a glass eye would be cool, as in he could do this.....read the off topic
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Well I've known two people who have lost an eye, one was distant and have no idea how he lost it and always kept it quite, but the other, he'd pull it the glass eye out and freak people out over it laughing like a mad man, there was a time in school, the teacher would tell him to keep his eye's on the board, and you know what he did, he gets up, pops his eye out, put it on the board, sat back down and started talking to his friends again, after that the teacher let him be...
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Well, whenever someone loses an eye in CLAMP (lol, I love how it's become commonplace for people to lose their eyes) CLAMP usually draws the eye in question as just a blank circle. Look at
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I'd also expect it to be a normal blank eye thing, like CLAMP usually draws. I think they did draw it differently in RG Veda (with eye stuck closed and scarred), but normally it's the blank.
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Yeah, that's true, though Fai didn't seem to be scarred at all in chapter 121, so I think it's safe to bet we'll just be getting circle-eyed Fai.
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Hm, I disagree with you at this point. Fye's eye got completely ripped out, there's no eyeball where the blank pupil or such could be. As far as I know he's the first character who totally and bodily lacked his eye and not only his eyesight, so I don't think they could let him run around with that eye open. (And I don't like the idea of a glass-eyed Fye >.<")
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It'll be bandages for a while, then who knows? He might make another deal with the witch. Or maybe he'll share an eye like in XXX?
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It'll be bandages for a while, then who knows? He might make another deal with the witch. Or maybe he'll share an eye like in XXX?
I haven't read thus far in xxx yet, but to me it sounds like something he could very well pull off with Kurogane :keke: But I don't want him to have one red and one blue eye :confused2: He should get back his eye in my opinion. Hope that's possible.
Oh, and about the deal with Yuuko, I can already picture the scene:
Fye: I want my eye back.
Yuuko: But you have to pay a price.
Fye: Yes.
Yuuko: The price is...
Fye: ?
Yuuko: Your right eye!
Everyone: *drop dead*
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I haven't read thus far in xxx yet, but to me it sounds like something he could very well pull off with Kurogane :keke: But I don't want him to have one red and one blue eye :confused2: He should get back his eye in my opinion. Hope that's possible.
Oh, and about the deal with Yuuko, I can already picture the scene:
Fye: I want my eye back.
Yuuko: But you have to pay a price.
Fye: Yes.
Yuuko: The price is...
Fye: ?
Yuuko: Your right eye!
Everyone: *drop dead*
ROFL! oh the irony!
Yeah...A red-eyes fai would not work as well (though I could cos him better) Well, maybe if he used some vyzene, he could make it blue! maybe kuro just has the worst casre of red-eye you've ever seen, that's why he's sooooo cranky! (just kidding)
I think a Fai with an eye like Mad-Eye Moody's from Harry Potter would be cool! It would be an asset to the team! (though I highly doubt the possibility)
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ROFL! oh the irony!
Yeah...A red-eyes fai would not work as well (though I could cos him better) Well, maybe if he used some vyzene, he could make it blue! maybe kuro just has the worst casre of red-eye you've ever seen, that's why he's sooooo cranky! (just kidding)
I think a Fai with an eye like Mad-Eye Moody's from Harry Potter would be cool! It would be an asset to the team! (though I highly doubt the possibility)
Yeah, maybe someone should give him some medicine :XD:
By the way, earlier I thought Kurogane could be some kind of half-demon or such. You know, the red eyes thing and the that he can actually see in the dark and also anticipate, just like Syaoran, other beings and things. Would have been pretty dramatic, ne? :keke:
Hey, Mokona once said he had red eyes like a bunny. Maybe Kurorin is a half-bunny :hehe:
Oooh, but a moody eye would be weird :tard: Nah, wouldn't like that. So it's still "get your blue eye back" for me!
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Hmmm, well, good points have been brought up about Fai's appearence from now on. I'm guessing it will be bandages for a while, if we even SEE Fai and Kuro for the next few chapters. The focus will probably be on the two Syaorans for a while.
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Hmmm, well, good points have been brought up about Fai's appearence from now on. I'm guessing it will be bandages for a while, if we even SEE Fai and Kuro for the next few chapters. The focus will probably be on the two Syaorans for a while.
Yeah, I think so too. But since Fye still has the yin-yang, maybe he'll be needed soon. It would be so cruel by (of? Help, please?) CLAMP if they'd left us hanging with anything about him and Kurogane for another or maybe two weeks!
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yeah, but they always space out the kurofai ness. most likly the battle between the syaos will take 2 chapters, somewhere in that time, sakura and subaru will apear, sakura being traumataized in the process O_o. MAYBE we'll see kuro and fai in the sidelines or something liek reaction shots, but thats all.
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Yeah, but... Hey, Fye has Syaoran's heart! There just has to happen something with it! If not, I'd be very disappointed :dodge: And not only I, I guess.
I think I'll get bricked for this, but I goddamn don't like Kamui and I don't care about Subaru -_- I want to know what happens with Fyyyye and Kurogaaaane :cry:
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I think I'll get bricked for this, but I goddamn don't like Kamui and I don't care about Subaru -_- I want to know what happens with Fyyyye and Kurogaaaane :cry:
throws a brick at her...
stops it in mid air... :confused:
i wanna know about kuro fye tooo.... :sweatdrop:
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Yeah, but... Hey, Fye has Syaoran's heart! There just has to happen something with it! If not, I'd be very disappointed :dodge: And not only I, I guess.
I think I'll get bricked for this, but I goddamn don't like Kamui and I don't care about Subaru -_- I want to know what happens with Fyyyye and Kurogaaaane :cry:
ne, i only like them cuz their cute. (well kamui is cute, with thos large inocent eyes, subaru's pretty..um..hot ^^;;)
anyways, im sure fai will give the heart to the real syao, even tho he wants to give it to the clone. i wonder, will fai put up another mask to hid his fear of syaoran? im sure he'd be vaugly creeped and somewhat wary of him.
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Btw, where exactly is that ying-yang thing now? On page 04 Fai doesn't seem to hold anything in his hands...
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Btw, where exactly is that ying-yang thing now? On page 04 Fai doesn't seem to hold anything in his hands...
hmm. i think i saw something in his right hand, the way he held it, but the last it was reallly seen it was in his left. O_o maybe it was mistake, but im pretty ceratin that fai has /will end up still having it
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ne, i only like them cuz their cute. (well kamui is cute, with thos large inocent eyes, subaru's pretty..um..hot ^^;;)
anyways, im sure fai will give the heart to the real syao, even tho he wants to give it to the clone. i wonder, will fai put up another mask to hid his fear of syaoran? im sure he'd be vaugly creeped and somewhat wary of him.
Mh, I've been wondering about that too. I wouldn't put it past Fye to use his mask again, since we don't know what he's gone through and putting his mask back on after that. I don't know what he would do if he didn't - I'm positive that Kurogane might get somewhat protective again if Fye finally shows (some of) his angst.
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anyways, im sure fai will give the heart to the real syao, even tho he wants to give it to the clone.
If Fai gives the heart to the real Syaoran, then the clone will have to die...I mean, they can't leave him heartless, and it would be sad if the clone dies. :cry:
i wonder, will fai put up another mask to hid his fear of syaoran? im sure he'd be vaugly creeped and somewhat wary of him.
I was wondering that too, and if Fai will forgive Syaoran for taking his eye out. Knowing Fai, I guess he could forgive him...but I don't know. :shifty: And maybe, he will put his mask back on, maybe because he doesn't want anyone to know how he feels about Syaoran actions...but maybe, he could show his true face too...only time will let us know. -_- Argh, so many possibilities and maybe's... :angry:
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I'm certain that Fai would forgive Syaoran. Not the soulless clone version, but their version.
Oh, and as to getting Fai's eye back, didn't Fei-Wang Reed say that removing the right eye would cause the clone to fall apart?
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Well, doesn't RealSyao need the right eye to be complete? Which will leave cloneSyao with just Fai's left eye... what effect will that have?
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Why do I get the feeling that Fai had some sort of inkling of what was going to happen, specifically? I bet he knew Syaoran'd want his eye. I think that's why he wanted to go with Syaoran instead of Kurogane. Maybe he wanted to try and stop it, even knowing that it was a risk. Though if that's true, Fai's lookin' like a total masochist.
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Well, doesn't RealSyao need the right eye to be complete? Which will leave cloneSyao with just Fai's left eye... what effect will that have?
No, Fai's left eye is now clone!Syaoran's right eye. So he'd be left with one normal eye if that eye were taken back, and it could cause him to fall apart, though maybe not.
Why do I get the feeling that Fai had some sort of inkling of what was going to happen, specifically? I bet he knew Syaoran'd want his eye. I think that's why he wanted to go with Syaoran instead of Kurogane. Maybe he wanted to try and stop it, even knowing that it was a risk. Though if that's true, Fai's lookin' like a total masochist.
I don't know, is Fai powerful enough to know the future? I thought that was only for really, really powerful people like Clow and Yuuko. He doesn't see to be a yumemi like Tomoyo and Kakyou, and I doubt he's a hoshimi...Maybe he has some kind of limited intuition? I don't think Fai wanting to get hurt himself in someone else's stead would really be masochistic. I don't think Syaoran would go after Kurogane's eyes though, since Kurogane...doesn't have magic in his eyes.
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LOL oh yeah... I guess that's true. And I don't think he can tell the future either, I think it's just his intuition.
Though if the magic Syaoran used is any indication, Fai's magic is not that impressive to begin with. I mean, it didn't even stun Kurogane. :hehe: Probably just a technicality, of course.
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LOL oh yeah... I guess that's true. And I don't think he can tell the future either, I think it's just his intuition.
Though if the magic Syaoran used is any indication, Fai's magic is not that impressive to begin with. I mean, it didn't even stun Kurogane. :hehe: Probably just a technicality, of course.
right, even from the looks of it, fai doesnt use a magic circle like all the other POWERful magicians use (yuuko, clow, ) he uses writing to usie his magic...does that make him more or less powerful?
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right, even from the looks of it, fai doesnt use a magic circle like all the other POWERful magicians use (yuuko, clow, ) he uses writing to usie his magic...does that make him more or less powerful?
Might be neither. Maybe Fai's just different.
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He is more powerful with written words, because the magic circle is a power helper, and centers its powers in the mid section. So writen is the stonger magic
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He is more powerful with written words, because the magic circle is a power helper, and centers its powers in the mid section. So writen is the stonger magic
so that would make fai more powerful than yuuko and clow and others. (which is rather cool, cuz Clow was always said to be the most powerful magician)
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I love fai...he's so funny all the time. like how he can't whistle and says ~hyuu!~ instead. the only sad part about him is the lastest manga. its...freaky. (trying not to say anything...)
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ahhh. your set...CHIBI FAI :inlove:
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I don't think the way Fai writes his magic really affects how strong it is, and he can't be more powerful than Yuuko and Clow - he is powerful enough to be able to transport himself to a different world, but he doesn't have the power to travel between multiple worlds like Yuuko or Fei-Wang Reed. Otherwise he wouldn't have needed to ask Yuuko for that power, would he? Fai also says that Yukito must be quite powerful, to be able to transport two people (and Yukito is abel to see the future to some extent, as I forgot to mention in my last post). I think the magic circles have generally appeared for people with similar types of magic. Fai may have a different type all together - I wonder if that's why he needed the marking, because his magic was unlike more usual types of magic? I think it's just to be expected, that there are different sorts of magic in the different worlds, though. I mean, the magic in Koriyo is different, as is the magic in Shura/Yama (not sure about Rekord).
As to when clone!Syaoran used Fai's magic, I think it wasn't effective because a) clone!Syaoran only has half of Fai's magic, which could mean all spells would be at half power, b) clone!Syaoran doesn't actually know how to use Fai's power, he's just twistedly mimicking Fai's earlier spell which wasn't meant injure anyone, so he doesn't know how to create any really destructive spells, d) Kurogane is just ridiculously strong, or c) CLAMP just found it more convient.
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I agree with you, Capella. I don't think CLAMP would make such a fuss about his great hidden powers to show them being not even able to scratch Kurogane. That's just not typical for them. If they build up such a tension and expectation about them, they won't disappoint as all who anticipating to actually see them!
Besides I'm convinced Fye could have managed to at least transport himself to another world once more, but it surely takes a lot of energy and he simply can't afford to get so worn out on his flight from Ashura, can he?
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It could be true that Fai did need Yuko's help to transport himself to other wolrds- but maybe not because he did not have enough strength/power or because his magic isn't as strong.
Remember that he tries not to use his magic- probably because if he does, Ashura will wake?
So if he uses his magic to constantly travel between dimensions and wolrds, the great ammount of power will not go unnoticed by the sleeping king.
So Fai says that he swore not to use his magic, not even to save himself.
So these are my theories:
1) Fai's magic is too powerful and has a destructive nature and he wishes no one else to die by his hand.
2) The constant use of his power will wake Ashura.
3) Not wanting to use magic to protect himself from other bad crowds (FWR)
4) Using his magic only brings memories of war and death (since most of us believe that Fye DID in fact battle for Ashura)
That's what I think- we musn't underestimate Fye's character. Just because he's all goofy and happy does not mean that under that mask lies some horrid truth.
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@Elenath
You can rule at least point 1 and 2 out from your list. :wink: Since Show content
he did use his magic in Lecourt to save himself and, most significant, Syaoran-tachi and neither did it seem he couldn't control it (didn't seem so to me when he used it in chapter 120, either) nor was there any sign of Ashura waking up. And he would have known it because Chii would contact him.
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I still stand up for point #3
Fai does not wish to die, true- but he wouldn't use his magic to save his live alone.
I believe it was in Chapter 118 where Kurogane and Fai have talk and he mentions that he used his magic to save everyone else, but taht he wouldn't mind being killed by himself, with none of the gang involbed.
That's why Fai wishes not to get "attached" emotionally to anyone of the TRC gang. He fears taht they would get involbed and get hurt someway.
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@Elenath
You can rule at least point 1 and 2 out from your list. :wink: Since Show content
he did use his magic in Lecourt to save himself and, most significant, Syaoran-tachi and neither did it seem he couldn't control it (didn't seem so to me when he used it in chapter 120, either) nor was there any sign of Ashura waking up. And he would have known it because Chii would contact him.
Well, Personally i don't think his Theory is all that bad.... I thought that his waking Ashura one was quite Probable.
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It could be true that Fai did need Yuko's help to transport himself to other wolrds- but maybe not because he did not have enough strength/power or because his magic isn't as strong.
Remember that he tries not to use his magic- probably because if he does, Ashura will wake?
So if he uses his magic to constantly travel between dimensions and wolrds, the great ammount of power will not go unnoticed by the sleeping king.
So Fai says that he swore not to use his magic, not even to save himself.
So these are my theories:
1) Fai's magic is too powerful and has a destructive nature and he wishes no one else to die by his hand.
2) The constant use of his power will wake Ashura.
3) Not wanting to use magic to protect himself from other bad crowds (FWR)
4) Using his magic only brings memories of war and death (since most of us believe that Fye DID in fact battle for Ashura)
That's what I think- we musn't underestimate Fye's character. Just because he's all goofy and happy does not mean that under that mask lies some horrid truth.
In my opinion...
1) I don't Fai's magic is destructive in and of itself, as so far we've seen him use it to transform Chii, transport Fai to Yuuko's, sense things, protect the group in Rekord, and try to stop Syaoran's soul from leaving him (also to seal Ashura-ou and create Chii). All of these, whether when Fai had his marking or after he gave it to Yuuko, were controlled and non-violent. The only time we've seen Fai's magic used destructively was by soullessclone!Syaoran. So I don't think his magic could be inherently destructive.
2) I know a lot of people believe that, but I don't see any evidence for it in the story. I mean, why would using magic break the seal on Ashura-ou? Unless Fai needs all his magic to be stable and focussed on maintaining the seal, which also doesn't make sense because then wouldn't it have broken when he transported himself to Yuuko's? That used a fairly large amount of power. I just don't see any support for the theory.
3) Possibly. He could not really have the will to defend himself, though he'll use it to help Syaoran, Sakura, Kurogane, et al.
4) I like that theory. Fai was a warrior of some sort, and he could be averse to continuing in that vein, for reasons related to all those dead people.
As to Fai's power, he says that if he used all his magical powers, getting from one dimension to the next would be all he could do. So he could have done it, but it sounds like it wouldn't have been worth it. The power to traverse multiple dimensions is a big deal - the price to gain it is more than one person can pay. Four people had to sacrifice what was most important to them for it. This is significantly larger than the price of godhood. Not to mention that we haven't seen anyone with the ability to do so other than Yuuko, Fei-Wong Reed, and people who were give the power by the former two. Clow probably also had the power. So Fai is very powerful indeed, but not on that level. (I wonder if this means Ashura-ou will have to go to Yuuko if he wants to chase Fai. Hm, I wonder what he'd have to pay. His right eye?)
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Hmm I guess you could be right, but it's fun to just brainstorm on some theories and probable outcomes of the character's background.
It's also interesting how people have different representations on the manga and character. The more variety, the better.
I can't wait until CLAMP reveals Fye's side and story. I bet it will be something that will leave the reader with mouth agape.
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Hmm I guess you could be right, but it's fun to just brainstorm on some theories and probable outcomes of the character's background.
It's also interesting how people have different representations on the manga and character. The more variety, the better.
I can't wait until CLAMP reveals Fye's side and story. I bet it will be something that will leave the reader with mouth agape.
definalty. even tho it wouldnt be TOO surprisong, it will still make our brains melt O_O
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definalty. even tho it wouldnt be TOO surprisong, it will still make our brains melt O_O
Probably just out of sheer excitement.
I dunno, CLAMP have a habit of coming up with totally original plots and weird idea so who knows what the hell is gonna come from Fai's past. They've already shot down a few ideas, but who knows when we'll actually get to find out. Kuro's was pretty sudden and all at once really. I don't think Fai's will be like that at all.
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I dunno, CLAMP have a habit of coming up with totally original plots and weird idea so who knows what the hell is gonna come from Fai's past. They've already shot down a few ideas, but who knows when we'll actually get to find out. Kuro's was pretty sudden and all at once really. I don't think Fai's will be like that at all.
You're so right. I enjoyed learning about Kurogane, but it was trully out of the blue, really.
I kinnda hope they don't rush Fye's.. even though I am clearly dying to know more of him.
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Hmm I guess you could be right, but it's fun to just brainstorm on some theories and probable outcomes of the character's background.
It's also interesting how people have different representations on the manga and character. The more variety, the better.
I can't wait until CLAMP reveals Fye's side and story. I bet it will be something that will leave the reader with mouth agape.
Yeah, different opinions/ideas are what make discussion fun. If we all agreed, we wouldn't have much to say, would we?
I also hope Fai's backstory is something unexpected, though...not too out there. As in, I hope it doesn't involve aliens. (Great, now I'm imagining the aliens from Duklyon descending on Celes...) And I wouldn't mind some romance, though I'm content to just imagine it if CLAMP doesn't make it canon. Other than that, I'd like to be surprised.
CLAMP's already let this sit around along time, so I don't think they can really rush it at this point. Besides, they like hanging it over our heads.
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ch 122 = fai' isNOT going to betray them, nor is he "EVIL"
no one evil would...Show content
purposefully sacrifice their eye+magic for a friend like he did O_O
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It's true that the Evi!Fai theory has little to no momentum now. Though... nobody in CLAMP is really "evil". There's always some sort of motivation or misunderstandingn to explain a villain's actions. So I'm not entirely convinced that Fai is guiltless in regards to his past, however, I don't think it's very likely that he's going to betray the group at this point. Unless past demons are too much to overcome...
*shakes head* No. No. Fai won't betray them willingly.
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As far as waking up Ashura, I think (for myself anyway) people who feel that the use of his magic puts him in danger are operating on a "one ring" kind of understanding. Like how in LOTR, Frodo can't use the ring because the dark lord will sense its power? I think that maybe Fai is afraid to use his magic because Ashura might be able to trace it. Just a theory that I know others have as well.
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ZOMG! Fai is Frodo! *loves*
Does that make Kurogane Sam?
(And I agree with Fai's refusal to use magic to be something to do with Ashura directly. I've always gotten the feeling that using it will make it easier for Ashura to find him, or perhaps even lift the seal on the coffin or something along those lines)
"I'm glad I'm with you, Kuro-rin, here at the end of all things..."
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As far as waking up Ashura, I think (for myself anyway) people who feel that the use of his magic puts him in danger are operating on a "one ring" kind of understanding. Like how in LOTR, Frodo can't use the ring because the dark lord will sense its power? I think that maybe Fai is afraid to use his magic because Ashura might be able to trace it. Just a theory that I know others have as well.
Oh, I get it. *Has never read LotR* I wonder how Ashura-ou would be able to trace Fai's magic across dimensions? Unless he's got some kind of tie to Fai's power...
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In my opinion...
1) I don't Fai's magic is destructive in and of itself, as so far we've seen him use it to transform Chii, transport Fai to Yuuko's, sense things, protect the group in Rekord, and try to stop Syaoran's soul from leaving him (also to seal Ashura-ou and create Chii). All of these, whether when Fai had his marking or after he gave it to Yuuko, were controlled and non-violent. The only time we've seen Fai's magic used destructively was by soullessclone!Syaoran. So I don't think his magic could be inherently destructive.
2) I know a lot of people believe that, but I don't see any evidence for it in the story. I mean, why would using magic break the seal on Ashura-ou? Unless Fai needs all his magic to be stable and focussed on maintaining the seal, which also doesn't make sense because then wouldn't it have broken when he transported himself to Yuuko's? That used a fairly large amount of power. I just don't see any support for the theory.
3) Possibly. He could not really have the will to defend himself, though he'll use it to help Syaoran, Sakura, Kurogane, et al.
4) I like that theory. Fai was a warrior of some sort, and he could be averse to continuing in that vein, for reasons related to all those dead people.
As to Fai's power, he says that if he used all his magical powers, getting from one dimension to the next would be all he could do. So he could have done it, but it sounds like it wouldn't have been worth it. The power to traverse multiple dimensions is a big deal - the price to gain it is more than one person can pay. Four people had to sacrifice what was most important to them for it. This is significantly larger than the price of godhood. Not to mention that we haven't seen anyone with the ability to do so other than Yuuko, Fei-Wong Reed, and people who were give the power by the former two. Clow probably also had the power. So Fai is very powerful indeed, but not on that level. (I wonder if this means Ashura-ou will have to go to Yuuko if he wants to chase Fai. Hm, I wonder what he'd have to pay. His right eye?)
Sorry if this detracts from discussing Fay for a bit, but I will get back on topic soon enough. I have the feeling that such powerful people like Yuuko and Clow probably have restrictions too, such as lines they are not supposed to cross without a price. Yuuko has the power to grant wishes, and she does help them on the journey, but she doesn't do it unconditionally. I've wondered if Yuuko and Clow had to pay a price for their power, which is why Yuuko always asks for something in return for a wish granted. On the other hand, FWR obviously doesn't want to pay whatever price, hence why he's after Sakura, the key that unlocks the power in the ruins (and collecting souls along the side).
And back to Fay--I think he is powerful enough magic-wise to transport himself more than once, but the price he has to pay to do it again (after the first time) would be too high if he were to use his own magic, that basically, it ties back to what Capella said--it wouldn't be feasable. My theory is that he went to Yuuko's shop because he knew about the others arriving, and that the only way he'd be able to travel dimensions with as little consequence as possible is to combine his wish with Syaoran, Sakura, and Kurogane.
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ZOMG! Fai is Frodo! *loves*
Does that make Kurogane Sam?
"I'm glad I'm with you, Kuro-rin, here at the end of all things..."
Teehee, "Fai wouldn't have gotten far without his Kuro-pon..."
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Teehee, "Fai wouldn't have gotten far without his Kuro-pon..."
:XD: Imagine Kuro carrying Fai up Mount Doom, haha.
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Sorry if this detracts from discussing Fay for a bit, but I will get back on topic soon enough. I have the feeling that such powerful people like Yuuko and Clow probably have restrictions too, such as lines they are not supposed to cross without a price. Yuuko has the power to grant wishes, and she does help them on the journey, but she doesn't do it unconditionally. I've wondered if Yuuko and Clow had to pay a price for their power, which is why Yuuko always asks for something in return for a wish granted. On the other hand, FWR obviously doesn't want to pay whatever price, hence why he's after Sakura, the key that unlocks the power in the ruins (and collecting souls along the side).
And back to Fay--I think he is powerful enough magic-wise to transport himself more than once, but the price he has to pay to do it again (after the first time) would be too high if he were to use his own magic, that basically, it ties back to what Capella said--it wouldn't be feasable. My theory is that he went to Yuuko's shop because he knew about the others arriving, and that the only way he'd be able to travel dimensions with as little consequence as possible is to combine his wish with Syaoran, Sakura, and Kurogane.
That's an interesting idea, a price for great power. We know that Yuuko can't interfere without someone wishing for it (I wonder about how that works, but I think that's more technical than CLAMP would actually explain). We don't know Clow's restrictions, but his power seems to have been a great burden on him.
I think Fai went to Yuuko's because he didn't feel he could escape well enough on his own, he (like a bunch of other magical people in different dimensions) knew that the Dimension Witch would grant any wish if paid the appropriate price, and he was willing to pay whatever she wanted to get himself as far away from Celes and Ashura-ou as possible. Yeah, the simple answer.
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That brings up the whole question of how Fai knew about Yuuko, as he's the only one of the group who conciously sent himself to her. I wonder if that knowledge will have any effect in the storyline? Maybe it's just one of those things that can be blamed on Fai being magical, lol.
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That brings up the whole question of how Fai knew about Yuuko, as he's the only one of the group who conciously sent himself to her. I wonder if that knowledge will have any effect in the storyline? Maybe it's just one of those things that can be blamed on Fai being magical, lol.
I was wondering that myself, unless Yuuko has like, an interdimensional advertisment running promoting her services :XD:
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I was wondering that myself, unless Yuuko has like, an interdimensional advertisment running promoting her services :XD:
She has an infomercial running 24/7 on all interdimensional cable networks, I'm sure. :XD:
Oh, I love Yuuko. :love9:
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Yup, that is so Yuuko. She loves to sell her services... maybe he found it while "using" Chi! Erosite, ne? Although, I think Fai would be browsing a different kind of Erosite than Hideki
cause he's gay.. I asked my sister who is less fangirly than me today to imagine Fai straight...she just started laughing..
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Yuuko totally has an infomercial. Oh, Yuuko.
Well, Fai's not the only one - Yukito, Tomoyo, Sorata and Arashi, Shura Country's Ashura...they all know Yuuko. I guess that when magical/spiritual communities learn about the multiple dimensions, they learn about Yuuko somehow. Maybe all of them learned about her from their magic teachers? One wonders how these different worlds find out about Yuuko, anyway. From people in other worlds who already know? Yuuko has connections, so I wouldn't be surprised.
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My guess is that some point in history Yuuko did something extremely powerful related to magic and that's how the mage users know who she is. I imagine if you asked them about Clow they would know him as well.
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yuuko DOES travel thru dimensions on the ocasionaly. heck, she has an interdimensional portal in her closet that takes her across the globe (RE: internet addict arc)
anyways, lets bring the discussion back to the loveable fai-chan ^^
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Do you think Fai might have Celtic orgins??? There was a big war/legend that happend somewhere along the way in Celtic stories.
Fai, for all we know, could mostlikely see the future for a short time, or is just very observent, when or how he found out about Yuuko. What I think is that those with strong powers, know Yuuko, be it from other magic people to storys and legends.
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Do you think Fai might have Celtic orgins??? There was a big war/legend that happend somewhere along the way in Celtic stories.
There are big wars in most mythologies, so I don't think that really means much. Besides, Fai is of Celesian origin - I don't think it's based upon any actual culture in particular. Just somewhere very cold, covered in ice, with magic.
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Do you think Fai might have Celtic orgins??? There was a big war/legend that happend somewhere along the way in Celtic stories.
For some reason Fai always struck me as more a Scandinavian type than anything, especially because of the runes and how he is from a cold country and the blonde hair and fair skin and all that jazz. Or maybe I am just biased because I'm scandinavian by heritage :XD:
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Yeah, i'd say Scandinavian too. But I do think that CLAMP has base their worlds on actual places and/or myths. So maybe, Fai was created with Scandinavian ideas. Or Russian. His language looks awfully Russian and/or Celtic runes.
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I'm torn between a Scandinavian and Russian influence myself. I thought Scandinavian at first (what with his looks and the popularity of Scandinavian Mythology in Manga) but then some very convincing arguements have been made for Russian (like the language and some of the aspects of the clothes).
Maybe Clamp have taken influence from both...or even everywhere that's cold and icy.
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Most likely ^_^
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I wondered about Fye's knowledge of Yuuko too! In my story about him, I have little Fye running a similar business as Yuuko. He grants wishes if its in his powers and if it helps people, but takes prices for it. In the story, Yuuko visits him and asks him if he could help her. Approximately.
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Okay, I'm going to write this because I can't get it out of my head. What if Fai himself wasn't human? That would kinda of explain why he doesn't die easily. What if he is kinda like Chii, but Ashura was the one who created him. Maybe Ashura wanted him to do some kind of job Fai didn't want to do and that's why he sealed Ashura. Maybe he wished made a wish to Yuuko to seal Ashura. Just a theory...
Someone in a topic that I don't remember which one was, said that Fai could be older than one could expect, and when I was reading vol.3 of the Del Rey adaptation chapter 19, the theory grew more in me; when Kishim (that's her name, no?) tells them that they are children Fai says 'What a nice compliment!'. Maybe he is much older.
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Okay, I'm going to write this because I can't get it out of my head. What if Fai himself wasn't human? That would kinda of explain why he doesn't die easily. What if he is kinda like Chii, but Ashura was the one who created him. Maybe Ashura wanted him to do some kind of job Fai didn't want to do and that's why he sealed Ashura. Maybe he wished made a wish to Yuuko to seal Ashura. Just a theory...
Someone in a topic that I don't remember which one was, said that Fai could be older than one could expect, and when I was reading vol.3 of the Del Rey adaptation chapter 19, the theory grew more in me; when Kishim (that's her name, no?) tells them that they are children Fai says 'What a nice compliment!'. Maybe he is much older.
I think Fai sealed Ashura-ou himself, because the symbol on that coffin-like thing is the same as Fai's marking, but that's just an assumption. Fai could be a creation, I suppose.
I agree with people who say that Fai is a lot older than he looks. He could be more than 100 easily, considering the way magical people in CLAMP age.
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*snorts* Fye being 138!
That'll be a bit strange, but it dioes kinnda fit. I mean, him being all mysterious and having all that knowledge and all.
Like an elf! xD;
Sorry....
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fai is now officially half-vampire....i wonder how'll that affect the story? more importantly, what about his personality. will he be going all angsty on us now? i mean, there are already A LOT of clamp angst characters. sigh.....
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My money Fai will be angry for some time with Kurogane for doing what he did......
Here's a thing that comes to mind with his past, what if Ashura-ou asked Fai to seal him???
Or
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But why would Fai run away from Ashura if he asked him to do so? Makes no sense to me.
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My money Fai will be angry for some time with Kurogane for doing what he did......
I doubt it. Not with the way Fai looked at Kurogane in chapter 125.
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My money Fai will be angry for some time with Kurogane for doing what he did......
I doubt it. Not with the way Fai looked at Kurogane in chapter 125.
Yeah pity. I want to see Fai losing his temper sometimes for a change.
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Yup. I was so excited about outraged!Fai! But, oh well... CLAMP will pull it off well, no matter what they do.
When Fai smiled, it's that kind of housewife smile. You know, like a mother whose hubby just discovered a really weird hobby und she smiles to herself and accepts it with an "Okay, let him have his will if it makes his happy." Know what I mean?
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But why would Fai run away from Ashura if he asked him to do so? Makes no sense to me.
Maybe they're actually just playing hide-and-seek 8D
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Maybe they're actually just playing hide-and-seek 8D
Oh yeah, that'll be it :XD:
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Maybe they're actually just playing hide-and-seek 8D
wait a minute XD...if they were playing hide and seek why would fai be scared??? Doesn't he love playing games, especially with kuro-woof? its not he's afraid to lose and and sealed Ashura to get a head start XD....
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wait a minute XD...if they were playing hide and seek why would fai be scared??? Doesn't he love playing games, especially with kuro-woof? its not he's afraid to lose and and sealed Ashura to get a head start XD....
Znuese wasn't being literal...she was making joke XD Of course their not playing hide and seek.
(Although I'd LOL if they were. XD)
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Znuese wasn't being literal...she was making joke XD Of course their not playing hide and seek.
(Although I'd LOL if they were. XD)
..im not that slow...i know she was just joking XD...but i wonder wats really going on bewteen them o_0
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but i wonder wats really going on bewteen them o_0
We'll just have to wait to find out...*pout*
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Now that I think of it, Fai's the one who has it really rough now. Poor Fai! -_-
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For some reason, the Hide and seek theory makes me laugh. XD
And then, Fai's magic would be like shouting 'Marco!' 'Polo!'
Makes it easier for Ashura to find Fai. *laughs*
Ah yes, I can see it now.
Ashura: *wakes up* one hundred million! Ready or not, here I come! =D
Chii: *using telepathy* Fai! Ashura finished counting! Hide!!!
Fai: Yaaaay! *dives underneath a table at a completely random time*
Sakure: F-Fai-san? O_o
Kurogane: ... What the hell are you doing?
Fai: Ashura is coming! Don't tell him where I'm hiding, okay? Shhhh....
Kurogane: ... Crazy bastard. >_>
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For some reason, the Hide and seek theory makes me laugh. XD
And then, Fai's magic would be like shouting 'Marco!' 'Polo!'
Makes it easier for Ashura to find Fai. *laughs*
Ah yes, I can see it now.
Ashura: *wakes up* one hundred million! Ready or not, here I come! =D
Chii: *using telepathy* Fai! Ashura finished counting! Hide!!!
Fai: Yaaaay! *dives underneath a table at a completely random time*
Sakure: F-Fai-san? O_o
Kurogane: ... What the hell are you doing?
Fai: Ashura is coming! Don't tell him where I'm hiding, okay? Shhhh....
Kurogane: ... Crazy bastard. >_>
Win! It all makes sense now...
You know, is Fai afraid of Ashura-ou? It's just...well, Ashura-ou's not a particularly frightening person in the first place (though he's supposedly good with a sword), and I can't remember Fai ever acting scared when Ashura-ou was mentioned (in the manga, that is). Just kind of sensitive, angsty, and quiet.
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Sure he is afraid, why in episode 28... :haha: nevermind..don't go to the het parade!
Yeah, it makes him seem that way in the anime, but I agree...I think the only description in the manga was ever that he got "pale" which could mean alot of things. I haven't read RG Veda, so I don't know anything about Ashura, but I think CLAMP is being intentionally vague on the nature of their relationship, and what exactly happened before Fai left Ceres...I still want to know about those bodies! The ones littering Ceres the first time we see Fai? I hope we are close to an answer.
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Well I don't know if I could post this here or not, but it is Fai in the way of the Vap version of himself, I'm waiting to see Fai's past so bad its driving me nuts....
Just type in Fay Flowright, CLAMP's Offical name and see the results, its scary
And you can put your name down as well to see what you get
http://www.emmadavies.net/vampire/
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Hm, I just noticed this, I don't remember what chapter it is in but:
(http://xs204.xs.to/xs204/06324/wtf.jpg)
http://xs204.xs.to/xs204/06324/wtf.jpg
It makes sense now... :cry: It seems Fai can see the future as well.
(I posted this in the 125 thread, but I moved it here)
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thats from ch 113. i think fai was noticing the breaking down of the seal, so he wanted to staly close to syaoran to try to strengthen it
Hm, I just noticed this, I don't remember what chapter it is in but:
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http://xs204.xs.to/xs204/06324/wtf.jpg
It makes sense now... :cry: It seems Fai can see the future as well.
(I posted this in the 125 thread, but I moved it here)
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thats from ch 113. i think fai was noticing the breaking down of the seal, so he wanted to staly close to syaoran to try to strengthen it
Hm. Well, we all know how that turned out. I guess he did notice that Syaoran's seal was breaking but didn't expect all those other things to happen along with it...
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Hm, I just noticed this, I don't remember what chapter it is in but:
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It makes sense now... :cry: It seems Fai can see the future as well.
(I posted this in the 125 thread, but I moved it here)
Yes, yes, I was making my sister catch up to where we are now, and I was about crying between chappies 112 and Syao goin' wacky, because of all the stuff Fai does that I didn't notice the first time. That one is the worst though. I think he is trying to get everyone away from Syao, so when it goes down, no one else will get hurt. And of course, the first one he got out of harm's way was Kuro-chi!
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Yes, yes, I was making my sister catch up to where we are now, and I was about crying between chappies 112 and Syao goin' wacky, because of all the stuff Fai does that I didn't notice the first time. That one is the worst though. I think he is trying to get everyone away from Syao, so when it goes down, no one else will get hurt. And of course, the first one he got out of harm's way was Kuro-chi!
You're right..
D: Uhg.. just thinking about that makes me feel sad. I should really go re-read Tokyo.. but.. ;__;
Aha, I found my webcam~
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(http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/771/faifairm9.png)
*snickers*
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That picture is the cutest! XD
Where did you get that Fai figurine? I've never seen it before...
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That picture is the cutest! XD
Where did you get that Fai figurine? I've never seen it before...
A very awesome friend bought me him from a Forbidden Planet store near where we live. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Japan-Animation-Clamp-Tsubasa-Chronicle-Figures-Set-4pc_W0QQitemZ150019135872QQihZ005QQcategoryZ1345QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
There's the full set on ebay, but I've only got Fai right now (you can't tell which one you get until you actually buy it and open it, so I'm reluctant to buy anymore at the moment, at £5 each. I really need to get a Kuro figure to go with Fai though, considering the postchapter125 situation XB)
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I have the Kuro figurine! *makes Kuro do kissy motions at the screen* The Forbidden planet in Dublin is great, they circle the picture on the box so that you know which figure is in there. x3
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Yes, yes, I was making my sister catch up to where we are now, and I was about crying between chappies 112 and Syao goin' wacky, because of all the stuff Fai does that I didn't notice the first time. That one is the worst though. I think he is trying to get everyone away from Syao, so when it goes down, no one else will get hurt. And of course, the first one he got out of harm's way was Kuro-chi!
Oh my god... o.o Now I'm going to have to re-read every chapter!! XD I totally didn't notice that the first time, either!!
I can't think of anything else that could possibly mean. Clearly he's trying to get everyone away so that no one has to see that or be in danger of also being harmed! O.O
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But if he really DID know, do you think he knew that all this other stuff was going to happen, too? O.O
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Like they said, Fai has been trying to supress the clone nature. He knew Syaoran was a clone with a heart. Perhaps because of past experiences in Celes? Anyway, it's not fortunetelling or anything like that. He wanted to stay close to Syao to keep suppressing the clone. Right?
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maybe being a good mage he was able to see through Syaoran from the beginning?
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Yup. His eyes are maaagical, after all. Maybe they're super X-ray eyes that can look into a person's soul. ... And through Kurogane's clothes. >3
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now THAT would be a great reason to take Fye's eyes.. :D
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Yup. His eyes are maaagical, after all. Maybe they're super X-ray eyes that can look into a person's soul. ... And through Kurogane's clothes. >3
Best theory ever :XD:
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Yup. His eyes are maaagical, after all. Maybe they're super X-ray eyes that can look into a person's soul. ... And through Kurogane's clothes. >3
Best theory ever :XD:
indeed :XD
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and now with only one eye Fai will only be able to see Kurogane's boxer short ^^
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maybe being a good mage he was able to see through Syaoran from the beginning?
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a created being, or something not exactly human.
Kamui and Ashura could both tell after only having been around Syaoran for a small amount of time. I think powerfully magical people must just be able to sense things like that.
I want to see Fai's reaction this whole vampire business once he's fully conscious. What does it mean for his mission?
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peharps that now that Fai has his magical power cut in two,he will be less reluctant to use it because even if he can't control it fully without his tatoo,he will not cause as much damage as when he had plenty of it :okay:!
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peharps that now that Fai has his magical power cut in two,he will be less reluctant to use it because even if he can't control it fully without his tatoo,he will not cause as much damage as when he had plenty of it :okay:!
or he might start using it more as he saw what happened when he didn't use all that much.. .. because Fye is powerful and if he wants even half his power he can really help out the group and save the day.
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exactly,his power is the key to victory :wink:!
i'm sure that now Fai is really going to "fight like a man" like Kurogane always asks him :keke:,because due to the gravity of the situation the time has come for him to put his strengh to good use (and stop wasting his energy to do cooking or to run in the house pursuing by a mad Kuro-toutou :haha:)
Fai character has reached a new level,everybody need him as much as he need everybody,so now he isn't anymore "the dancer who avoid and run away" but rather a determined warrior :okay:
(it's time for him to show us his mainliness :lol:)
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err...hi. First post here, but I've been a long time lurker of CW.net and a long time Fay fan.
And just like with everyone here, the recent chapter of Tsubasa blew my mind. So I thought "ZOMG people have to know!!" and I'm a stickler for making sure that everyone can get the right info. So, I've decided that the most well known spot for internet info on everything would be wikipedia. I've been adding and editing of most of the TRCness of wiki (I'm a nerd, so I edit it quite often), epecially Fay.
My point? Someone deleted alllll of the new info posted about Fay, Kuro and the whole...recent development. :'( Not a big deal, but it really bugs me since it was properly marked with spoiler tags, and I'm positive all of the info was correct. Anywho, was thinking I'd get some sympathy, and maybe some followers for making sure that people can get the right info they need on our favorite characters. Anywho, sorry for ranting. It just really irritated me...and the first place I thought I'd come to was here. Anywho ^_^ Thank you.
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aww that sux that someone renoved all your info :( *pats*
perhaps someone thought it was incorect...thinkin about it, perhaps a TRC newbie, anti kurofai person thought it was just fan-craeted and erased it...thining about it, it DOES seem rather far fetched XP
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It does seem kind of far fetched doesn't it? I remeber thinking about how in the world they would save Fay...everytime the vampire thing came up I thought "nah.....they wouldn't do that"
And there is a heck of a lot about Kuro in Fay's character section. Which isn't my inner kurofay fangirl at all influencing that, hehe.
Anywho, more or less restored all the goodness. Have a look if you like and let me know how it is.
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maybe im not looking in hte right place, but i dont see anything about the cutrrent chapters on the TRC pagfe on wiki :confused:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fai_D._Flourite
My bad. I'm trying to put it up first in the character's section. The bit that I was talking about is in Fay's character section with the big spoiler warning.
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waouh,thanks a lot for sharing those fascinating informations about Fai,all is clearly and merely explain :keke:!
the only thing that is contestable is the spelling of his name :surprised:
in this forum (so in english) it is "Fai",in your site it is "Fay",and in my country (France) it is "Fye",so it's rather confused :sweatdrop:
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I just read that page a few days ago and I loved it :wave:
@Tatasenko
It's also "Fye" in Germany! Here, he's called "Fye de Flourite", so he always seemed rather French to me *laugh*
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I just read that page a few days ago and I loved it :wave:
@Tatasenko
It's also "Fye" in Germany! Here, he's called "Fye de Flourite", so he always seemed rather French to me *laugh*
we can suppose that Fai came from an european country due to his features (blond hair and blue eyes :inlove:),which contrast totally with Kurogane's black hair and red eyes who is him,definitely born in japan :keke:.
Fai a french :surprised:?now that you mention the "de flourite" i'm totally excited about this possibility :rotfl:!
it would an honor (i'm going to find as much similarities as i can between my country and Fai's personnality :okay:!)
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I just read that page a few days ago and I loved it :wave:
@Tatasenko
It's also "Fye" in Germany! Here, he's called "Fye de Flourite", so he always seemed rather French to me *laugh*
yes..wikipedia is very helpful...i think i saw that link the very first time i watched TRC....im too much of a book/reference person, i just wanted know everything i could about TRC, leave it to me to look it up on an online dictionary :dodge:
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Umm, unless I'm much mistaken, there's no "de" in Fai's name, it's "D." as in an initial.
I really don't think Celes is meant to mirror any particular real country - it's just a very, very cold country where they do not use chopsticks or the Japanese (or Chinese, for that matter) writing system. Also that they use magic, are unmodernized (if that's even a word...), seem to have a monarchy, and a floating castle.
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Eh...I like it "Fai" better, just because I keep wanting to say it like it rhymes with "way"...but I guess Fay is supposed to be the official spelling of the name...according to the data book or some such thing. Spelling it any other way in wiki makes people angry.
I try and associate Celes with Russia...cold, big fluffy coats, a monarchy...I'd bet if we could hear Fai...Fay speak his language it wouldn't be smoothish like Japanese...but up and down tones or something...but not gutteral like Dutch...
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well in ep 5, fai speaks in his original language. i dont know whats being said, and the subber used windings (or webdings...one for kuro one for fai, the one that had the astrological symbols for fai :heh: ) does anyone have anyidea what was being said by those 2 in that ep?
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well in ep 5, fai speaks in his original language. i dont know whats being said, and the subber used windings (or webdings...one for kuro one for fai, the one that had the astrological symbols for fai :heh: ) does anyone have anyidea what was being said by those 2 in that ep?
I don't think we can really say that is the way their languages sound, because for the most part I think the scriptwriter just threw a bunch of syllables around in a random, nonsensical pattern in order to make it sound like something that isn't able to be understood by someone who doesn't know Japanese. So I don't think anyone will ever know what was being said, because neither in the manga nor the anime do they really say anything that is actually understandable. But given the situation you can probably assume what they are talking about.
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I never thought Fai was actually French, he just reminded me a little af France. (Though I've never had much to do with France until now ^^")
I think his language sounds very pretty and delicate, it fits a land with flying castles and glittery skies *g* I don't how to describe it without my synaethesia, but it'd look like some curvy line with irrgeular dots and knots. Very fluid and melodical.
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I never thought Fai was actually French, he just reminded me a little af France. (Though I've never had much to do with France until now ^^")
I think his language sounds very pretty and delicate, it fits a land with flying castles and glittery skies *g* I don't how to describe it without my synaethesia, but it'd look like some curvy line with irrgeular dots and knots. Very fluid and melodical.
Fai is certainly a french poet :haha:!
now about what Kurogane and Fai were saying:
they were discussing with Shaolan about the fact that Sakura's feather could be hidden in a strong Kudan.then Mokona has been kidnapped (By the "Mokona's kidnappers" guild that i form with ishiyaki of course :wink:),and they couldn't understand each other anymore...i recognized the word "mokona" in Kurogane's language,he was certainly wondering where he could have been taken...and cursing this damn manju to be so troublesome :shifty:!
but what i found funny is that Fai was smiling despite the situation,and Kurogane seemed irritated,maybe they were understanding each other through their look and were saying something like:
Kurogane: why are you smiling stupidly damn mage?
Fai: because your language is weird !
Kurogane: you think that your is better ???
Fai: it sounds like a dog's bark :keke:!
or maybe Fai was telling to Kurogane some nauhty adults things because Shaolan couldn't understand them :rotfl:
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Fai is certainly a french poet :haha:!
now about what Kurogane and Fai were saying:
they were discussing with Shaolan about the fact that Sakura's feather could be hidden in a strong Kudan.then Mokona has been kidnapped (By the "Mokona's kidnappers" guild that i form with ishiyaki of course :wink:),and they couldn't understand each other anymore...i recognized the word "mokona" in Kurogane's language,he was certainly wondering where he could have been taken...and cursing this damn manju to be so troublesome :shifty:!
but what i found funny is that Fai was smiling despite the situation,and Kurogane seemed irritated,maybe they were understanding each other through their look and were saying something like:
Kurogane: why are you smiling stupidly damn mage?
Fai: because your language is weird !
Kurogane: you think that your is better ???
Fai: it seems like a bark dog :keke:!
or maybe Fai was telling to Kurogane some nauhty adults things because Shaolan couldn't understand them :rotfl:
lol, thats probably what they really were saying XD
also, i just relaized. that is the ONLY time kurogane's called mokona, or anyone else forthat matter, by their given name O_o. (i wonder when he's going to ccall fai by his given name ^^ or fai kuro's full name :P
btw, the fai in your sig banner tatasenko...is he youthful? or is that just a trick of the water. :unsure:
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oops, meant to delete my post. i see no option though. ah well. fay's a vampire. i hope he sucks on kurogane 10x a day.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fai_D._Flourite
My bad. I'm trying to put it up first in the character's section. The bit that I was talking about is in Fay's character section with the big spoiler warning.
i see it now. I looked up Kurogane's page and changed the incorect fact about him being a ruthl;ess killer. he's not. he simply shows no mercy to assasins :lol: (i rather ahte it when people assume kuro;s pure evil like that<_<)
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Ruthless killer? Didn't have have anything to do with that bit. I only added the character section to Kuro's thing about a month ago...haven't done anything to it since.
the syaoran that took the eye is the original. ...no offence, but is that a joke?
A quote from Original Syaoran: (this is the link where I am getting the translation: http://www.makenai.org/tsubasa/chap122eng.txt
"The half of my heart
that I gave to you long ago.
Once the seal had been broken on this
That magician tried to return it to you
along with the right eye that you stole."
He was saying this to the clone. The clone has Fay's right eye. Therefore the clone stole his eye. We also see (in chapter 120) the clone dragging Fay's bloodied body. Kuro affirms this with the clone (that he stole the eye and ate it) in chapter 121.
The info that I added about the vampire is now in the magical section. I just noticed that. I think it should be in the character section, seeing as (for now atleast) the recent events are more of a character-development and plot-development type than directly tied to Fay's magical abilities. I shall move it again. If anyone thinks it should stay in the magical section, let me know why and we can come to an agreement ^_^
There is also a discussion page in wiki for each article.
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i never sid it as you abou tthe incorect info on kuro's page i just said that someone wrote him as someone evil ^^;;
btw, he needs the vapire thing added to his page too ^+^
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i never sid it as you abou tthe incorect info on kuro's page i just said that someone wrote him as someone evil ^^;;
btw, he needs the vapire thing added to his page too ^+^
Well, I don't think that 'ruthless killer' necessarily translates to 'evil'. Ruthless is just another word for merciless, which Kurogane was. Though I hate when people think he's all evil and mean too. He's really just a big softie on the inside ^_____^
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Well, I don't think that 'ruthless killer' necessarily translates to 'evil'. Ruthless is just another word for merciless, which Kurogane was. Though I hate when people think he's all evil and mean too. He's really just a big softie on the inside ^_____^
exactly,because Kurogane isn't insensitive,and he never kills for nothing :keke:!
in Nihon world he was figthing against opponents only to protect Tomoyo Hime (even if it was also to strenghten his body,but after all it was also to the perspective to be a more helpful bodyguard for his princess.)
and when he began travel with our heroes he again only killed to protect the others or to avenge someone death (like when he though that Seishirou has killed Fai and Shaolan :()
he is not a bloody killer like vampire are bloody suckers,he respects some rules when figting :okay:.
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I can't think of what Chapter it was, but there was a picutre of Fai is a battle uniform, I have to find out which one it was.....anyone have any ideas to what chapter it might be?
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The one from Shara?
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No, it was the one from Ceres, it was one of those chapter pictures, I think it 90-95?
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The black one? Where he was holding a staff, and a sort of galaxy background? Its the chapter picture somewhere around Kurogane's past, I think.
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Oh, I totally love that pic! Fai looks SO awesome in robes *melts* And I think Kurowanwan totally agrees
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Oh, I totally love that pic! Fai looks SO awesome in robes *melts* And I think Kurowanwan totally agrees
he looks his best in the darker roebs, not the white one. the darker robes i think match his true personality while the white ones HIDE his true feelings and such. ^^
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he looks his best in the darker roebs, not the white one. the darker robes i think match his true personality while the white ones HIDE his true feelings and such. ^^
That, and the fact that he looks so goddamn smexy handsome in black ^-^ And I don't know if they fit his personality best... White is mischieving, tricking your eyes and mind just as Fai wants it to. But black definitely matches too. Well, everything has two sides, doesn't it?
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well the darker robes contrast the way he acts. outgoing, bright HAPPY. while black usualy represents moody and darkness, which is probably whtat the REAL fai is like.
i agree too, he looks more sexy in the back robe then he does in the white one :keke:
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Hm, I'm still pondering how Fai really is. You remember what 112's splash page said? (Approximately) "Hate, Sadness, Regret... What lies beneath this mask?" This indicates his dark self is how he grew to be with Ashura, maybe his true self is more like a mix of both and he uses his happy side to keep everyone at arm's length and uses it as mask by that.
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Yes thats the picture I was thinking about, It looks like its either Black with gold tint, or Dark Blue with a silver tint? What do you think?
I can'd wait till the 23, maybe Fai's past will be reveiled soon, like lets say 131??I hope..
We should place bets on what chapter his past will show up.
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well the darker robes contrast the way he acts. outgoing, bright HAPPY. while black usualy represents moody and darkness, which is probably whtat the REAL fai is like.
i agree too, he looks more sexy in the back robe then he does in the white one :keke:
i read somewhere that in CLAMP's universe the white was revealing the true personnality of a character,while the black was concealing it...which is the inverse of what you said,but yet your state of mind is more logiccal due to the fact that Fai who is often in white always hide his true face :(.
but then it can also be view this way:
peharps that Fai's true personnality isn't really far from he acts actually,joyful,sweet,and warmhearted!the only part of himself that he is hidding is his sadnesss,sorrow and tears,but as soon as Kurogane will settle his traumatized past,Fai will smile anew :keke:
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i read somewhere that in CLAMP's universe the white was revealing the true personnality of a character,while the black was concealing it...which is the inverse of what you said,but yet your state of mind is more logiccal due to the fact that Fai who is often in white always hide his true face :(.
but then it can also be view this way:
peharps that Fai's true personnality isn't really far from he acts actually,joyful,sweet,and warmhearted!the only part of himself that he is hidding is his sadnesss,sorrow and tears,but as soon as Kurogane will settle his traumatized past,Fai will smile anew :keke:
indeed. he's already smiled 2 REAL smiles for kurogane ^_^ (well the first one was halfway ral, but the other was 100% real :)
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just for our enjoyment i will put the two true Fai's smiles :keke:
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ah,seeing him opening his eyes and smiling always soothe my heart :)
the first smile is full of sadness and relief:sad because he didn't want Kurogane to worry about him,and relieved because he certainly viewed his death like a delivery to his torments :(...
the second smile is full of happiness,but also again relief:happiness, because he finally understood that Kurogane cared for him,and relieved because he has found a reason to keep living :okay:
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indeed. fai saves his first smiles for kurogane ^_^
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and Kurogane has saved his first TRUE hug for Fai :rotfl:
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my fingers well enough, so tonight i will add the second chapte r to my fai narative on ff.net. (the first ch is about ch 120 <_< but the second ch will be about the more recent events ^_^)
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Do you mean that it could be Fai's real smile??
Mokona-manju-anti-Kuro-Fai said once that his smiles never were sincere...now, we'll see the true feelings of Fai!:D
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i love his second smile moer. theres more emotion in that tiny little pannle really, wait till you see the ficcie when i post it ^_^
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the second smile of Fai seems to say something like "okay then Kuro-pon,you have won,i will let you pamper me if it makes you happy" :keke:
and Kurogane with his chemise half-open looks so bold :okay:
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Those two are pictures I always look at and go "Awww~". Whatever happens, how bad a mood I am in, this makes every fibre of me want to sing, dance, jump around and shout from the rooftops that they are canon!
(Anyone wanna sing the hymn?)
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Those two are pictures I always look at and go "Awww~". Whatever happens, how bad a mood I am in, this makes every fibre of me want to sing, dance, jump around and shout from the rooftops that they are canon!
(Anyone wanna sing the hymn?)
this is the same thing for me :okay:!
since chapter 121 and Kurogane holding Fai in his arms i have never been in so a happy mood :keke:!
exactly like the last panel of chapter 125 says "his companion's feelings have reached him",the KuroFainess madness has totally revived me :rotfl:
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fai is my favourite character! ^^
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fai is my favourite character! ^^
oh really? we haven't yet noticed :rotfl:
(your avatar and banner is speaking for you :keke:)
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Maybe it's totally off-topic, but on TV I saw a mini planet called "Ceres" - it's a funny idea to imagine Fai sitting somewhere on a planet out there :haha:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_Ceres
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Maybe it's totally off-topic, but on TV I saw a mini planet called "Ceres" - it's a funny idea to imagine Fai sitting somewhere on a planet out there :haha:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_Ceres
Haha, I clicked on the link for Ceres the goddess in that article and it says Ceres was the goddess of "motherly love". XD
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Well in the Piffle world Fai called himself Swallow, the bird, which means to be motherly protective.....hummm....
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so Fai is an extraterrestre (i know that he was weird but not at this point :haha:)
it is say that the planet was discovered in january 1st...maybe it is the birthday date of Fai,after all it's a winter month and it would suit well with the cold weather of Fai's world :keke:
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Well in the Piffle world Fai called himself Swallow, the bird, which means to be motherly protective.....hummm....
Fai didn't choose this name himself, mokona did ^^. So he still keeps distance.
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oh,what a revelation!
this article also mentioned that the name "Ceres" was given by French conquerors in the ages :keke:...
so my theory of Fai being french is not so far from the truth :okay:
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Fay is soo cute! PIRATE WIZARD~~ nyoooo~~!
I wanna visit Celes and Chii too.. :(
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I THINK HE IS THE BEST. If there was a guy like Fye in real world, I would ask him to marry me :haha:.
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bit off topic, but Im such a fangirl:
i bought a new pari of sneakers the other day..the colors are all shades of blue and they make me think of fai: The nave blue iner lining and accents on lace thingys: make me think of fai's dark navy robes
The lihter blue, on the lace thinies and sole: make me think of the light bleu trimmings on both his dark and white rbes
theres this cool shade of blue on the sole, where the arch is...that mkes me think of his eyes.
:heh: im such a fangirl
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LOL! I can just imagine that!! Wow Fay is everywhere you go! You're lucky. XD
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anou... i diont remember, but did fai ever say "i dont die easy" or soemthing similar in the manga? or am i just thinking of fanfics? cuz with what yuuko said about fai's lifespan and stuff, means he was telling the truth with that
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Yes, he says that when he and Kurogane are fighting Debonair in Koriyo. Earlier on in the series he seemed more keen on keeping himself alive than he does now, didn't he?
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Yes, he says that when he and Kurogane are fighting Debonair in Koriyo. Earlier on in the series he seemed more keen on keeping himself alive than he does now, didn't he?
indeed, but he seemed more apt to stay alive after kuro's lil speach, IE when he's fighting seishoro, he says "i thouth it would be an adventure to die, but i think now itd be an adventur to live" or something to that affect...im too tired to remember exact quotes <.<
but still up to this point in the story hed tryd to protect himself better...now its the other way around :P
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indeed, but he seemed more apt to stay alive after kuro's lil speach, IE when he's fighting seishoro, he says "i thouth it would be an adventure to die, but i think now itd be an adventur to live" or something to that affect...im too tired to remember exact quotes <.<
but still up to this point in the story hed tryd to protect himself better...now its the other way around :P
That's one of the few scenes I love Beetrain for. He doesn't say it in the manga, but here there's that cute flashback of him and Kuro and then he says that he doesn't think being alive isn't that bad after all. It just shows so wonderfully that Kuro is the reason for a change in his heart and that makes me happy ^-^
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Fai needs somebody to take care of him,because his loneliness is killing him.he seems so close to everybody but yet he is so far from himself,always seeking to flee his own life :sweatdrop:.
At least Beetrain did a good job on Fai's eye,the way that he looks at Kurogane is always full of desire and silent pleading :okay::
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Fai needs somebody to take care of him,because his loneliness is killing him.he seems so close to everybody but yet he is so far from himself,always seeking to flee his own life :sweatdrop:.
At least Beetrain did a good job on Fai's eye,the way that he looks at Kurogane is always full of desire and silent pleading :okay::
(http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/7472/0407e1ud1.th.jpg) (http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0407e1ud1.jpg) (http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/1765/ep09116qu4.th.jpg) (http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ep09116qu4.jpg) (http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/7664/ep19006ac0.th.jpg) (http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ep19006ac0.jpg)
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I actually prefer Beetrain's character design more than Production IG's because I like his eyes and hair better when done by BT. (But IG's Kuro ROCKS!)
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BT's design of fai is indeed better, but that LOOK of fai's is perfect ^_^
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slightly off topic
although sometimes BeeTrain manages to make Fay look like his gorgeous manga self you have to admit that anime!Kuro is just plain ugly...
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slightly off topic
although sometimes BeeTrain manages to make Fay look like his gorgeous manga self you have to admit that anime!Kuro is just plain ugly...
indeed. BT will NEVER beable to cpture kuro's sexiness in the recent manga chapters :(
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yeah,Kurogane's design compared to Fai is rather bungled,there is often a gap between their faces on the same screen,which makes me think that Beetrain only concentrate their works on Fai because they knew that he would be more appreciated by girls than Kurogane,thought for me we can't love one without the other,due to the fact that their relationship is priceless :keke:
but however we can't deny that they have greatly improve the quality of the animation in season two,which means that season three could be again much better :okay:
(http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/5415/517e0gp4.th.jpg) (http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=517e0gp4.jpg)
(season one,Fai's haircut is an horror and Kurogane is lacking cruelly of details :sweatdrop:)
(http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/8651/drinkupmeheartiesqq8.th.jpg) (http://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=drinkupmeheartiesqq8.jpg)
(season two,Beetrain has finally bought a comb for Fai,and we can see some of Kurogane's muscles :rotfl:)
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well, I agree that probably most girls are fawning over Fay not Kuro (I used be like that too, frankly, I madly fell in love in Kurogane thanks to the latest chapters XD)
BT will never be able to pull of Fay's hair successfully. in the manga it looks so wonderfully messy and soft, but it all turns dull in the anime.
and Kuro is just a disaster. most of the time he is too slim, and what about the ears and pointy teeth in Piffle (foreshadowing?!? you've got the wrong person BT!!!).
btw in one of the latest episodes I noticed that Fay and Sakura have almost identical dos... BeeTrain is being lazy (again)?
edit> sorry for being off topic again :sweatdrop:
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don't worry,you are not off-topic,after all how can we speak about Fai without mentionned Kurogane ???
about Fai's eye,i'm totally amazed by the way Beetrain bring them to the fore :keke:.
but when i think about it,Beetrain doesn't have much work to do on Fai's expressions since he is always closing his eyes in a smile :haha:!
and moreover in Tokyo arc they will have even less chore because Fai will lose his left eye,so they will only have to draw from time to time one sparkling blue eye when Fai will not smile :okay:
(http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/6893/048lv4.th.jpg) (http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=048lv4.jpg) (http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/5142/snapshot20051024130742lq6.th.jpg) (http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot20051024130742lq6.jpg) (http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/939/ep10029bn1.th.jpg) (http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ep10029bn1.jpg)
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i wanna drown in his beautiful eyes :rotfl:
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*sighs* such pretty eyes.
But I'm having the urge to photoshop in an eyepatch in all those pictures. :rotfl:
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XD Hahahaha.
I honestly HATE the anime. Gah. But back to being on-topic!
KxF FTW!!!
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I simply love Fai's blond hairs and blue eyes. :inlove:
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I simply love Fai's blond hairs and blue eyes. :inlove:
blue eyes blue eyes...
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c182/Kozi_Hana/Fye.jpg)
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In this Chapter 126, Yuko say's Fai is the oldest of the group because of his magic, just how old I wounder?
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Blue eye. :tongue3:
In this Chapter 126, Yuko say's Fai is the oldest of the group because of his magic, just how old I wounder?
It really didn't surprise me to learn he's a lot older than he looks; often CLAMP characters who are strong in magic have long lifespans. I'd say Fai's at least 100, but he's probably a lot older than that; somewhere in between 100-1000.
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not having read many other CLAMP works, i mysself dont like calling fai THAT old. id say probably in his 30s for me :-/
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I agree as well- I imagined Fye being at least 25 and Kurogane 27 somewhere in between their 25-30s.
By what I read from the manga in chapter 126, I understood that Fye's lifespan was already long due to his strong power.
She mentioned his lifespan, not that he was already 100 years old or taht he was old, for taht matter.
He could live up to 200 and still look young, I suppose, but she didn't say "Fye is the oldest of the group"
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not having read many other CLAMP works, i mysself dont like calling fai THAT old. id say probably in his 30s for me :-/
Ever read MKR? There's a kid in it who looks 12 but is really around 740. ^_~
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The fact that Fai has an unnaturally long lifespan was mentioned, but nothing was said about Fai's actual age, or that he was the oldest member of the group. Leastways, before the apparent confusion between the two possible interpretations of one of Yuuko's lines (I've seen it translated as both "Kurogane, your life is longer now too" and "[Fai] has already lived quite a bit longer than you, Kurogane.") it's difficult to say. However, just because he HAS a long lifespan doesn't automatically make him around 100.
While I agree it's more likely for Fai to have a three-digit age (if it was mentioned, he probably does) but Yuuko never said he'd lived long enough to really reap the benefits of an expanded life. He could very well be 24 and expecting to live to 1000 or something like that. However, I think that Fai's age, when one considers his lifespan, is probably around the equivalent to Kurogane's.
((And before chapter 126, I always pictured Fai to be in his 20s. He doesn't look old enough to be over thirty, IMO.))
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yeah,it's very hard to guess how old is Fai,because the contrast with his personnality is fooling us :surprised::
even if he has got more than hundred years old,he is far from behaving like a "old wise",on the contrary he is acting like a child,always teasing,playing,smiling like a innoccent kid who has just started to discover the outside world :keke:
...but however in the same time he seems to be fed up of life,totally depressed and unwilling to take care of himself,like if he was letting himself slowly dying :(...so the reason could be because he has already lived since a long time and that he couldn't bear anymore to drag his past burden :sweatdrop:
maybe that Fai's "true life" has begun when he has left his world and that he started travelling with Kurogane,Shaolan,and Sakura,because it was at this very moment that he has found the real signification of his life :wink:
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Well considering who Fai is, and what his past is/was or whatever the heck it was, messed him up, and he's only acting the way he thinks others act, ei children...., I'm sure its some sort of disorder.
Hey, just listen a song and made me think of Fai,
James Blunt "Out of my mind" I think it fits him, considering the latest chapters
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the oldest in the group would be mokona :)
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I'd guess Fai was also in a three digit age, but a low one. People(cultures) perhaps mature differently when they live longer. however, I certainly don't think he acts his age, even if he is in his 20s.
Of course, ACT, is the key word here. He certainly has scars/disorders/complexes though, and that can make him seem both younger and older, depending on whihc one you focus on.
*off topic*
Eleath, your sig. is beautiful. ^.~
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She mentioned his lifespan, not that he was already 100 years old or taht he was old, for taht matter.
He could live up to 200 and still look young, I suppose, but she didn't say "Fye is the oldest of the group"
The fact that Fai has an unnaturally long lifespan was mentioned, but nothing was said about Fai's actual age, or that he was the oldest member of the group. Leastways, before the apparent confusion between the two possible interpretations of one of Yuuko's lines (I've seen it translated as both "Kurogane, your life is longer now too" and "[Fai] has already lived quite a bit longer than you, Kurogane.") it's difficult to say. However, just because he HAS a long lifespan doesn't automatically make him around 100.
If you read this translation: (http://community.livejournal.com/kuroxfai/214296.html?thread=2203928#t2203928) wich I think is very reliable since the translator is half japanese, you will see that Yuuko actually said: “In fact, Kurogane. He has already lived several time more than you.”
So yeah, Fay seems to be several years older than Kurogane… but at the same time, he seems to be a young magician, I mean, Yuuko refers to him as a “child” ... so, if you compare him with a human he could be old, but as a magician he must be very young… I’d say around 50-100 maybe more, but it's difficult to say… :keke:
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So yeah, Fay seems to be several years older than Kurogane… but at the same time, he seems to be a young magician, I mean, Yuuko refers to him as a “child” ... so, if you compare him with a human he could be old, but as a magician he must be very young… I’d say around 50-100 maybe more, but it's difficult to say… :keke:
That's what I think as well. I think compared to his own kind, he's probably young, which is part of the reason why I think he's so scared of Ashura-ou and why he's reluctant to talk about his own past; there have been times when he's simply looked like a scared child, needing comfort.
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In Manga 3, Del Res's Ver., pg 109, The Kiishim call's the three fighters "Amusing Chidren."
Fai laughs and says its a nice compliment, While Kuro gets all ticked that she called them children...
Heh? Well, we just have to wait till CLAMP gives us a real Age. Darn.
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Yes, I saw that too.
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Somehow, I get the feeling that everyone has thought of this before me... but whatever. I was thinking about something last night: we know that happy attitude is as fake as it gets, but how long has this act been going on? Somehow, it feels a bit strange to assume that something terribly awful happened just minutes before Fai arriving at Yuuko's place that made him put on that mask, but then, the only option left would be that he has been wearing that fake smile for a longer time. Joking away the fact that Terrible Things *dun dun dun dun* were going on in Celes and him being part of them? Maybe another argument for the "Fai suffers from guilty conscience" side.
Oh, and sorry if this has been discussed before.
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Somehow, I get the feeling that everyone has thought of this before me... but whatever. I was thinking about something last night: we know that happy attitude is as fake as it gets, but how long has this act been going on? Somehow, it feels a bit strange to assume that something terribly awful happened just minutes before Fai arriving at Yuuko's place that made him put on that mask, but then, the only option left would be that he has been wearing that fake smile for a longer time. Joking away the fact that Terrible Things *dun dun dun dun* were going on in Celes and him being part of them? Maybe another argument for the "Fai suffers from guilty conscience" side.
Oh, and sorry if this has been discussed before.
I agree the whole mask thing has been going on for a very long time. It's a huge cliche that royal courts are filled with intrigue and backstabbing, so every courtier must create a mask to hide their feelings for political reasons. Since Fai was assumedly an important member of Ashura's court he would have learned to hide his feelings in the same way to avoid political trouble, and once Terrible Things *dun dun dun* © started happening, he used the same coping mechanism.
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So, I was flipping through book one of Tsubasa today, and I came across that one pannel where there are all the presumably-dead bodies in Fai's word. And this is just a theory, but, what if they aren't actually dead? What if all those people are sleeping, like Ashura? Yes, there's blood there, but Clamp faked us out with Syaoran and the clone "controlling" him, so it follows that they'd potentially do the same with Fai's past.
A lot of people, Del Rey included, seem to think those people are there in the aftermath of a battle, but Fai and Ashura seem to be very close and, on Fai's part at least, affectionate towards each other. So why would they fight? And if they *did* decide to fight each other, if some sort of circumstance turned them against each other, why get other people involved? Fai said himself that he doesn't want people getting hurt by getting involved with him. Now, admittedly this statement could have been made BECAUSE people have gotten involved with him and gotten hurt, but Fai seems like the kind of person who will do anything to avoid fighting. And frankly, in all the pictures we've seen of Ashura, he appears very gentle and not hostile at all.
So, that's my Fai-theory for the day XD
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What if the people tryed to save Fai from Ashura-ou? Or Fai just sealed him away because he was getting to power hungry? I hope we get to see his past soon, and in soon, I mean uh like now CLAMP....as if they read this site...which would be cool
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I'm still in the "Fai did bad things in the past" camp. Expecially after the way CLAMP is handling Himawari, I feel like Fai has a history of hurting the ones he loves, and being hurt by them also. I don't know that he is "bad luck" neccesarily, but I do think he has unwillingly hurt others in the past.
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So, I was flipping through book one of Tsubasa today, and I came across that one pannel where there are all the presumably-dead bodies in Fai's word. And this is just a theory, but, what if they aren't actually dead? What if all those people are sleeping, like Ashura? Yes, there's blood there, but Clamp faked us out with Syaoran and the clone "controlling" him, so it follows that they'd potentially do the same with Fai's past.
A lot of people, Del Rey included, seem to think those people are there in the aftermath of a battle, but Fai and Ashura seem to be very close and, on Fai's part at least, affectionate towards each other. So why would they fight? And if they *did* decide to fight each other, if some sort of circumstance turned them against each other, why get other people involved? Fai said himself that he doesn't want people getting hurt by getting involved with him. Now, admittedly this statement could have been made BECAUSE people have gotten involved with him and gotten hurt, but Fai seems like the kind of person who will do anything to avoid fighting. And frankly, in all the pictures we've seen of Ashura, he appears very gentle and not hostile at all.
So, that's my Fai-theory for the day XD
Maybe they were fighting and then they all fell asleep, and that's why there's blood around them - from the wounds they inflicted on each other? An interesting thought. It makes me think of Sleeping Beauty, though. Maybe there was battle going on and Fai stopped it by putting everyone to sleep...? That still leaves the question of how Ashura-ou was involved and why Fai had to run away.
Why would they fight is a big question. You're right - neither of them is the type to start a battle. And they don't seem to be set against each other, unless Fai has managed to turn Ashura-ou totally against him (though I can't imagine how - Ashura-ou isn't very fierce).
I'm in the "Fai did bad things" camp as well, I think, though he might have done them unintentionally. Ashura-ou as well.
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Hey, just found this, do you think Fai was built off of Faust?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faust
If thats so then.......poor Fai/Faust
Just a fan looking around
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Hey, just found this, do you think Fai was built off of Faust?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faust
If thats so then.......poor Fai/Faust
Just a fan looking around
*laugh* Funny idea, but I don't really think so ^_~
What I find interesting, though, is the fact that Mephisto seems quite gay in the story sometimes *snicker*
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I dunno whether this had been discussed or not, and I'm just to lazy to scrolling-searching -_- Just wondering, Fai said that If Ashura-ou awake, he will definetely going after Fai, does that means that Ashura-ou can easily travel across dimension, and what he wanna do with Fai..? take him back to Ceres or worse, kill him..?
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hum,all these recents awful events that took place in the manga make me think that CLAMP's aim is to make us feel depressed :sweatdrop:
we need a little break,don't you think?
here a funny discussion about Fai's outfit that i found on a livejournal :wink:
http://community.livejournal.com/kuroxfai/264020.html#cutid1
now i understand why Kurogane gets all upset every time he looks at Fai,he is about to have a nose bleeding :haha:
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indeed. espcialy that bunny gertting some action from fai;s coat XDDDD
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I dunno does it makes any sense or not ^^"
So on my language Fai's name has a meaning. You're writing it as ' fáj ' but it sounds like in the anime. And ' fáj ' means ' pain ' in english ^^
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*pops*
I really like Fai. He's awesome. <3
I have this theory about Fai's past. Since he was close to Ashura-ou he probably did something he thought it was okay or good for the people/citizens, but ended in a tradegy, and now Ashura-ou is hunting him down to make him pay for what he did, and he's probably ashamed about what he did, or fears the outcome. He probably fears regretion or getting the kids dissapointed about what he did.
Also, he could've done something really terrible meaning it after having a fight with Ashura-ou, and now he's running like hell out of his world for his life. ._.
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I'm starting to think that maybe Fai could have a very dark side....and that he's possibly betrayed Syaoran-tachi in some way. Because even though he helps them out a lot, and acts so nice, I'm wondering whether those guilty looks have another meaning closer to home.
Plus, CLAMP like to use that little plot device a lot....one of the main friendly characters has a dark secret that affects the group.
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So, guys, since there was an Ashura mention, and subsequently another FaiAshura hint, in chapter 131, maybe we should discuss that?
I think that since Fai mentioned Ashura "taking him with him", according to Pikari's translation, that we should probably look back to the bar scene in Outo when Fai was like, "I was always waiting for the one who would take me away" or whatever *paraphrase'd* ^_^;;
I, like many others I'm sure, assumed that Fai was expressing what he wanted, but now I'm thinking that he may have just been reminiscing about Ashura himself. Anyone have any theories?
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So, guys, since there was an Ashura mention, and subsequently another FaiAshura hint, in chapter 131, maybe we should discuss that?
I think that since Fai mentioned Ashura "taking him with him", according to Pikari's translation, that we should probably look back to the bar scene in Outo when Fai was like, "I was always waiting for the one who would take me away" or whatever *paraphrase'd* ^_^;;
I, like many others I'm sure, assumed that Fai was expressing what he wanted, but now I'm thinking that he may have just been reminiscing about Ashura himself. Anyone have any theories?
i agree somewhat, but also, i think that hte resent events that had just acured (syaoran's brtreyment and what kurogane did, and subsequenmtly, sakura putting her life into danger) is whats forcing fai to push them away. he doesnt want them to be hurt anymore.
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I think that since Fai mentioned Ashura "taking him with him", according to Pikari's translation, that we should probably look back to the bar scene in Outo when Fai was like, "I was always waiting for the one who would take me away" or whatever *paraphrase'd* ^_^;;
I, like many others I'm sure, assumed that Fai was expressing what he wanted, but now I'm thinking that he may have just been reminiscing about Ashura himself. Anyone have any theories?
Wow, for some reason I didn't make that connection. I think it's possible that Fai was referring to a past event. He says "I was a guy that always waited for the one who would take me along" (in Del Rey's translation, at least). He's talking about the past in some manner - and maybe he's thinking of how he waited like that in the past, not that he's waiting now. The former might actually make a bit more sense, since he clearly went away from the situation in Celes by himself. Maybe he's remembering how he went with Ashura-ou, and what became of that. Who can say - for every hint CLAMP gives us, they give us yet more questions.
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I was thinking a lot of this character particualry, first of the points that some one mention is the "age thing", we have to remember that CLAMP like a lot to desguise the age, we have to remember Magic Knight Reyearth, maybe Fai is a lot older that we thought....
And we have to think about his world, a lot of magic, there is a past, very hide... other think we have to remember the relationship with Ashura-ou & Fai (remember the part of the manga, chapter 130, when he said to Yuuko "a lot of lies, an when Ashura.ou took him in"), maybe The past of Fai is more related with the plot of Magic Knight Reyearth; this is my confusing conclution, guys.... i don't know, we have to analize all the CLAMP work and "try" to think about this character in particular....
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Aa~ Apparently we get to see Clamp's chibi!Fai (with Ashura D:?) in the second Character Guide (and a new omake.. with lots of milk.. .. ._. )
I'm getting the guide when tank 17 comes out.. so.. if no-one else scans them before then I will. But I'm sure someone will.
Ah- someone over at the chinese boards is apparently gonna scan them when they get their scanner working.
According the babelfish.
Which is still translating Fai as "law iraq" and Sakura as "prunus pseudocerasus" X'D
http://www.tsubasa2005.com/bbs/thread-5354-1-1.html
(might be a few pages into the thread before anyone mentions the ChibiFainess. Cant remember.)
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Oooh, that would be wonderful if someone could scan and then post the link here! *waves cookies as incentive*
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From the chinese forums:
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(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/ayaxxx/GB1.jpg)
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/ayaxxx/GB2.jpg)
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/ayaxxx/GB3.jpg)
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oh my!!!really kawaii!! can you post the bigger version of those pics???
I really want it!! >_<
cookie for you....if you post the bigger version one.....
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oh my!!!really kawaii!! can you post the bigger version of those pics???
I really want it!! >_<
cookie for you....if you post the bigger version one.....
It's just the forum automatically resizes them, but those are the biggest scans we have.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/ayaxxx/GB1.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/ayaxxx/GB2.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/ayaxxx/GB3.jpg
Credit to ayaxxx from the Tsubasa2005 forums for these, btw. x3
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Oooo, intriguing~
The sketch is so cute. Does anyone know what Fai's saying in the last one there?
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Oooo, intriguing~
The sketch is so cute. Does anyone know what Fai's saying in the last one there?
I think he's saying they want another 20 bottles of milk, or something like that.
Thats what the chinese description of the omake on Tsubasa2005 translated to, anyway.
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The sketch and the chibis are adorable. <3 Ashura-ou looks so parental. (Now there's something we didn't consider...) I can't wait to see the omake in full.
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whuu~~~
thankz, Znuese-chan!! ^__^
eh???that is omake???new omake by CLAMP??
cant wait!! >_<
oh,cookie for you,Znuese-chan!!
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A new omake? I hope the it will be realesed soon!
The sketch is cute, but Fai sitting beside Ashura? :surprised: The chibi pic is also cute! And I like the last picture of Fai too.
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Yay! a new omake! Fai looks sooooo cute!
* wanna see*
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a new omake is exactly what we need to bring a little cheerfulness after all this violence sadness and cold-heartedness :sweatdrop:.
but Fai doesn't have his bandanna on the third picture,so it won't be about his new status of vampire :(.
but at least we got to learn another funny information about his flavors,because according to his happy face he seems to be as much addicted to milk than alcohol :tongue:!
and again he is playing the role of the mother since Shaolan and Sakura are in the background and that milk is essential for children's growth :wink:!
moreover Fai we can suppose that Fai is asking Kurogane to milk the cows for the sake of the children :haha:
Fai Kurogane Shaolan and Sakura as farmers would do a hilarious omake :okay:
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http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/ayaxxx/GB1.jpg
How cute! So this means there's quite an age gap between Fay and Ashura, whatever they were. Way to make me even more curious, CLAMP.
The omake sounds great, I can't wait to see it! Fay is SPARKLING! :inlove:
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Yeey! Another omake! It was about time ne?
Thank you Znuese, if I could I'd give you not only a cookie, but a whole cake! i_i *dies at the though of chibi-Fay and daddy-Ashura* (Fay has a thing for daddy figures!)
I imagine Kuro-tan being treated like a slave again (like in Outo) XD
this makes me have naughty thoughts that include a dog collar, a whimp and a seme-Fay...
The kids have to eat! Work hard Daddy!! ^^
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Hmmm. Well, seeing as magic-users have long lifespans, the age difference might not be that much considering how long Fai and Ashura are ACTUALLY set to live. Also, in the splash page Ashura looked about the same and Fai looked around the same age as in Tsubasa. Though if Ashura is Fai's father (O_o;;) then that splash page might be a little inappropriate, lol. Seriously, though, they look nothing alike. I wonder if Ashura, like adopted him or something?
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Hmmm. Well, seeing as magic-users have long lifespans, the age difference might not be that much considering how long Fai and Ashura are ACTUALLY set to live. Also, in the splash page Ashura looked about the same and Fai looked around the same age as in Tsubasa. Though if Ashura is Fai's father (O_o;;) then that splash page might be a little inappropriate, lol. Seriously, though, they look nothing alike. I wonder if Ashura, like adopted him or something?
Maybe father-son type relationships that turn figuratively incestuous are an Ashura family kink, or something? I doubt they're actually father and son (the Celes scene makes it seem like they're more distant than that), though of course I could be wrong. I could see Ashura-ou treating Fai like his son just because - Ashura-ou seems to like kids. Then again, we don't know the context of the image at all, so maybe it's not that significant.
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i support the theory of Ashura being Fai's adoptive father,because this kind of relationship is based on pure confidence,affection and complicity,so according to the fact that Fai seems totally broken by his past,it may means that he has really been betrayed by his most important person,the one he has always admired through his child's eyes,and who has given him everything he had like happiness comfort and a shelter :(!
Fai was maybe a abandoned child who was rescued by Ashura,and at the beginning we can suppose that Ashura was a very caring father,but that when he has discovered the magical power of Fai he has changed and has decided to exploit it for his own purpose :surprised:...
i don't think that Ashura was evil,he has certainly been in contact with a devil aura which has bewitched him,and so that's why Fai was forced to seal him to put an end to his madness :sweatdrop:
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Cool theory Tatasenko, I like this one best. Cause I still don't see Ashura as being Fai's past lover. I see him more as someone Fai cared for deeply. What if Ashura created Fai? (this was a past theory, no?
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those images are just what the doctor ordered to cheer opople up form the anime poison!
kawaii chibis, and the sketch of faiashura :X
cant wait for the omake!
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/ayaxxx/GB2.jpg
um.....corect me if im wrong...that arm sleeve behind kuro's head...that would be from FWR's wardrobe, would it not? does tht mean w'll see thtt fat ugly guy in chibi form O_o...thats both funny and wrong. but still, most mangakas when they make chibis, they include everyone. in sailor moon, chibi queen beryl was quite a cutie.
also, if im not mistake, yuuko will be in the image too, cuz only one person wears a headdress wilike that ^^
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I'm home sick.. so I could finally finish with this lineart <3
Comments make a sicky artist fell better ^^
(http://pics.livejournal.com/elenatha/pic/0001b71d/s320x240)
Full View: http://pics.livejournal.com/elenatha/pic/0001a1rb
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So pretty! Fai's hair being all shiny and lovely... But I do think you might have overdone it a little bit - his hair looks more like it's full of olive oil rather than highlighted by the surrounding magic. Try lessen or even removing the shines on the parts of the strands of hair that - from our point of view - are not "facing" the magic. Ehum, I'm tired, I can obviously not form conprehendable sentences... Do you see what I'm getting at? Treat the magic more like a light source, and adjust the shines - and darken the shadows - with that light source in mind. That, I think, would also add to the dark feeling of the picture.
The magic itself looks really nice, as does its transition from Fai's body. I see no anatomical misstakes neither on Fai nor Ashura, but... what's with the guy, really? He looks like he just discovered there was a camera there, and is now posing for all he's worth while Fai's suffering in the background.
Overall, me likey! :)
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WAOUH,your naked Fai makes me blush Elenath,you shouldn't show beautiful boy to a girl like me when it's night :rotfl:!
Fai looks so desirable,totally submissive and confined by the chains of his past which seem to be represented by the spherical shell of his tatooing that is surrounding him :okay:
moreover i don't know if it was intentional but Fai's hair are half long,exactly like if he was teared open between his past with Ashura when he has got long hair,and his present life where he is travelling with Kurogane :wink:
i give you a sushi cookie without hesitation (i know that Fai love it :haha:)
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Something interesting in the 2nd character guide. This is Mokona's storyboard for the 1st anime opening she would have liked
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i9/Senefen/0208.jpg
Fai knew Ashura when he was young....
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Something interesting in the 2nd character guide. This is Mokona's storyboard for the 1st anime opening she would have liked
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i9/Senefen/0208.jpg
Fai knew Ashura when he was young....
So that's the context for that image! I wondered what it was for. I can't tell anything from it, but it's good to know!
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Something interesting in the 2nd character guide. This is Mokona's storyboard for the 1st anime opening she would have liked
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i9/Senefen/0208.jpg
Fai knew Ashura when he was young....
This pic really make me wonder....... *thinking*
I want to know more about Fai's history!
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Copy paste from KuroxFai board:
UGH I NEED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT FYES PAST
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Yeah.. so! I was at work, on a break and decided to be an idiot and draw some.... child!Fye doodles, inspired on a scene of my (in-progress) fanfic featuring child kuro and Fye.
Seems tomoyo not only likes to dress Saklura up xD
(http://pics.livejournal.com/elenatha/pic/0001h3tz)
http://elenatha.livejournal.com/6419.html?mode=reply (http://elenatha.livejournal.com/6419.html?mode=reply)
o __ o; ..... *gets bricked*
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I just noticed a thing about Fai's coat. On the pic in my banner the pattern on his sleeve is yellow but in the anime it's blue. Do anyone know which colour it is supposed to have??
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I think Clamp just used whatever colors they felt like for the image in your banner. XD *has that poster* The other color image they've done of Fai has those designs as blue (although the coat is fancier - the picture with the designs all over the coat). They aren't really consistent with their stuff sometimes.
The anime just makes up their coloring, so...basically I have no answer for you. u_u Sorry.
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CLAMP really isn't consistent with colors. They just go with what works well for the picture. That's why the eye color of so many of their characters change from picture ot picture.
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what poster is that from?
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The poster is a Nintendo DS Tsubasa game advertisement. There's a Tsubasa Chronicle videogame for that handheld system, and while it's based on the anime, Clamp did the artwork for the ad.
The game game out last year, in October. It's been out for a while, but I guess since the posters were only in Japan they didn't really get noticed over here.
There's a download for it in the tsubasarc LJ community as well.
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So no one knows? Too bad :sweatdrop:
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I don't think it's so much that no one knows, but it's more like Clamp themselves don't know. XD
There are only 2 color images by them of Fai with that coat. One is blue (and fancy) and one is that gold color. The anime has nothing to do with Clamp, but I guess it could be taken as official. There really isn't any other answer, unless someone happens to be friends with Clamp and can ask them (that would be nice).
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fai and kurogane became my favourite characters the second I saw them. :)
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I don't think it's so much that no one knows, but it's more like Clamp themselves don't know. XD
There are only 2 color images by them of Fai with that coat. One is blue (and fancy) and one is that gold color. The anime has nothing to do with Clamp, but I guess it could be taken as official. There really isn't any other answer, unless someone happens to be friends with Clamp and can ask them (that would be nice).
Yeah it would be good if we could ask them XD. I think his coat is prettier when the pattern is blue, but yellow is nice too. :) By the way, I'm not sure I have seen the other colored pic of Fai in his coat, could you maybe send it to me :D ?
CLAMP really isn't consistent with colors. They just go with what works well for the picture. That's why the eye color of so many of their characters change from picture ot picture.
Yeah, I know. And it's not only clamp I've seen that many mangaka like to change colors on their characters hair, eyes etc. It can be quite confusing sometimes :sweatdrop:
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Well Fye seems nice and is happy go lucky but sometimes you can see that he has a darker side. I think he is cute but i just wanna know about his past. Other than that he's cute and always supports the others in this group
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About Fai's new style...
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I love itm his hair is so cute...he's following the vampire thing to the key, also, for those who have the TRC Character Guide 1, one of Fai's skectches shows him with his hair up.
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about how fais chaned:
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his way, when fighting, has defuinalty changed. before when he was engaged in combat, he would wear a big goofy grin, whereas in ch 136, his smile was more cold and calculating...more true tho probably still a mask.
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Fai is my beloved of TRC. XD And I prefer it 'Fai' b/c that's the way it is in the official English manga. Anything else kinda bothers me, but that's just me. ^^;
Fai, after almost 18 books, is still the mysterious person of the group. We know about Sakura, we know about Syaoran, we definitely know about Kuro-tan, but Fai's history remains unknown. Except for a brief flash in one of the later chapters... but I won't spoil it here for those who don't know.
And this is kinda random but in the latest chapters, the thing that strikes me most is that Fai needs a haircut. XD?
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mage looks hotterwith aponytle!!!
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So, I'm just wondering....should we change the name of the Character Discussion thread to Yuui? LOL
With all of Fay's past coming back and messing up with his mind.....and all the stuff that has happened since 120, do you think he will act the same, or be more truthful to himself and allow himself to live?
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about the name change... fai said that if his brother is resurected, he can give him his name back. so untill that happenes (which, thanks to kuro XD, wont. not that it ever could) fai will still and forever be FAI! =D
as for fai himself... he's gonna be more sulky and resentful towards kuro for what he did, but deep down he knows it had to be once he realises just how dumb he was being =P
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Clamp really like to make their series more complicated as they go on huh ^^; ,
We are all used to call our one eyed friend Fay since that was his name for sort of 20 volumes, but know we find out that his real name is Yuui and that his dead brother's name is Fay, then it's kinda hard to know what you should call him, To me he will always be Fay, I think that is a prettier name and it fits him better, but I wonder what the other in the group will do.. Will Sakura (when she's hole again) start calling Fay Yuui-san? maybe, maybe not, but to me Fay is Fay.
Btw: I find it kinda funny that Sakura's seiyuu's name is Yui Makino ^^ I wonder if Clamp has ever thought of that resemblence... :XD:
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ill never not call fai fai. sure i call his past self Yuui, but the adult is and always will be FAI ^__^
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ruby chans right when he smiles i want to cry because
**SPOILER**
of his past when you read it it says that Ashura-ou was the one who told him he was beautiful when he smiled :cry: :sad10: :cry: :sad10: :cry:
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Fai is Yuui? Sorry, I get really easily confused sometimes LOL...*blush*