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Title: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: glass_rain on December 30 2005, 10:51 am
I've only seen the English version, so of course, all the name were different, which was really annoying. So I wanted to know which one you guys thought was better, English or Japanese?
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Sya0ran on December 30 2005, 10:54 am
Japanese definitely.  The english dubbing su**ked beyond reason.  X]
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: glass_rain on December 30 2005, 11:03 am
True, and I'd probley like the Japanese version better. I'm trying to find the downloads on  the Net, know where any are that I don't have to pay for??
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: glass_rain on December 30 2005, 11:04 am
Don't forget to vote people!! :hehe:
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Strawberry on December 30 2005, 11:11 am
Definitely the Japanese version. I hated the English versions soooo much that I am currently selling my English version DVD's and VHS' (don't know why I brought them in the first place)

The reason why I don't like the English version is because....
~ The voices for almost all the characters sounds so wrong, for example Kero's voice sounds as though he is an old man!
~ The way they cut and editted so many parts!
~ Music is not as good as the Japanese version. I suppose the music is okay in the English version, but they only composed a few pieces of music and play the same old music again and again in every episode.
~ Songs are not particulary good. I suppose some of the songs such as Razzamatazz (spelling?), Just around the corner are okay, but notice most of the songs are fairly short and looks totally wrong going with CCS such as I can make it
~ There is no relationships/couples in the dub. What happened to the S & S couple?
~ Character names has changed, the Japanese names definitely suit the characters more.

There are more reasons why I hate the English version, but I think I will leave it there because I'm tired typing now ><"
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Arcademan on December 30 2005, 11:18 am
Cardcaptor Sakura (Japanese) > Crapcaptors (English)

I won't even dignify the poll with a response :tongue:
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: glass_rain on December 30 2005, 11:21 am
Gee, thanks. :dodge:
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Arcademan on December 30 2005, 11:27 am
No thanks are necessary. Crapcaptors is a sore point with me. The less said about it, the better.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: moezychan on December 30 2005, 12:34 pm
Definitely the Japanese is better. I cannot stand how they dubbed the English version. They cut it, sliced it, and diced it until it was mince meat! As for downloads, I have all the Japanese episodes on DVD so I don't need to download them, but for you the only way you can ever see them is if you have bittorent.

Trust me, you won't find direct download. I looked way before I got my episodes, and I only ever found 1 website with direct link, and they're closed down.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: ~Bloody_Rose~ on December 30 2005, 12:52 pm
Japanese.. coz in Japanese, you can really feel the tension of the anime... The emotions fit in the way they dub it.... so, definitely japanese!
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Cardcaptor Takato on December 30 2005, 01:29 pm
There's no doubt about it.  The Japanese version definetly gets my vote.  For one thing, it's the original version that was meant to be seen.  The dub VAs are terrible and don't fit the characters at all; a lot of episodes were skipped and combined, and some were even aired out of order in the U.S. (only 39 out of the original 70 were ever aired on Kid's WB); almost every character's personality was changed, usually to make them more snobbier than what they were in the original; changes to the plot were made, such as cutting out all the relationships , including the more "innocent" ones like Sakura x Shaoran among other changes, and the ending was just really screwed up.  By itself CC isn't half-bad, admittedly.  Nelvana did do a pretty good job of covering up the cuts they made, so you could almost consider CC to be a seperate series from CCS, and CC did introduce many CCS fans to the original and Clamp in general, myself included, but CCS is still better hands-down.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: `wing-ed] on December 30 2005, 01:50 pm
definitely the japanese version. the english one wasn't up to standard
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: cardcaptor519 on December 30 2005, 01:55 pm
Japanese version all the way! The English version was all messed up!!
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Moon on December 30 2005, 05:24 pm
Japanese. It's just better. :D
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: cherrytree on December 31 2005, 09:16 am
I don't think anyone whose seen both versions would vote for the English one... for obvious reasons that it totally got screwed up!
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: sofiacardcaptors on December 31 2005, 01:50 pm
Quote from: moonprincess18 on December 30 2005, 05:24 pm
Japanese. It's just better. :D
I agree.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Arcademan on December 31 2005, 01:52 pm
So far it 11-0 Japanese version. Why continue this thread?!!
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: moezychan on December 31 2005, 02:41 pm
Quote from: Arcademan/PixieP on December 31 2005, 01:52 pm
So far it 11-0 Japanese version. Why continue this thread?!!

I agree. After all, the dubbed can't ever compare to the Japanese version!
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Kuro-puppy on December 31 2005, 04:25 pm
everyone will probably give the same answer...JAPANESE ONE IS BETTER!
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: AkaiYuki on December 31 2005, 05:44 pm
J-Japanese.... DEFINITELY Japanese... I'm still suffering random night terrors over the English version...

AkaiYuki sleeping: Zzzz... ^_^

JULIAN: Hey, SA-KOOOOO-RA! ^_____________^

AkaiYuki: *wakes up screaming* O.o.. *hides under covers*
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Fye-chan on December 31 2005, 09:27 pm
I've never seen the english version but I saw a short clip where Syaoran was talking and....*shiver shiver*
The JAPANESE!!! For sure!!!
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: moezychan on January 01 2006, 06:07 am
Quote from: AkaiYuki on December 31 2005, 05:44 pm
J-Japanese.... DEFINITELY Japanese... I'm still suffering random night terrors over the English version...

AkaiYuki sleeping: Zzzz... ^_^

JULIAN: Hey, SA-KOOOOO-RA! ^_____________^

AkaiYuki: *wakes up screaming* O.o.. *hides under covers*

Don't even say it like that! I get nightmares from that name! It's SA-KU-RA! So much more kawaii! And how they got Madison (shivers) out of Tomoyo, I really have no idea! I can't stand the dubbed! Japanese all the way! Oh, and I hope I didn't insult you Yuki-chan!
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: AkaiYuki on January 01 2006, 09:31 am
Quote from: moezy-chan on January 01 2006, 06:07 am
Oh, and I hope I didn't insult you Yuki-chan!

Heh heh, how would that have insulted me? You didn't say anything bad!

And Fye-chan, trust us, just don't watch any more than what you have already seen... It only gets worse...
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: moezychan on January 01 2006, 11:00 am
Quote from: AkaiYuki on January 01 2006, 09:31 am
Heh heh, how would that have insulted me? You didn't say anything bad!

And Fye-chan, trust us, just don't watch any more than what you have already seen... It only gets worse...

 :noteworthy: Arigatou Yuki-chan!

And hai, it does get worse! Save yourself the horror! I can't stand Cardcaptors! Trust me, nothing good can come from it!
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Eriol on January 02 2006, 12:19 pm
Quote from: moezy-chan on January 01 2006, 11:00 am
:noteworthy: Arigatou Yuki-chan!

And hai, it does get worse! Save yourself the horror! I can't stand Cardcaptors! Trust me, nothing good can come from it!

Yup!!You darned right,I hate the English version of it and only 2 version off CCSakura I mostly adore,the Japanese and Filipino(local version and no cut-offs)!!! :hehe: :okay:
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Kuro-puppy on January 03 2006, 06:17 pm
are you brave enough, strong enough, hero enough to be able to watch Cardcaptors without getting nightmares?!

if the answer is yes, YOU'RE A BIG FAT LIAR!!!!!
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: moezychan on January 04 2006, 03:57 am
Quote from: Kuro-puppy on January 03 2006, 06:17 pm
are you brave enough, strong enough, hero enough to be able to watch Cardcaptors without getting nightmares?!

if the answer is yes, YOU'RE A BIG FAT LIAR!!!!!

Words to live by! Say it like it is Kuro-puppy!
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Hikari B. on January 06 2006, 01:28 pm
Japanese alll the way!! ^__^
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Arcademan on January 06 2006, 01:54 pm
Voting is closed...no one voted English :tongue:
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Eriol on January 06 2006, 09:06 pm
Yeah!!!All are voted in Japanese version of it and to Kuro-puppy,if only a got see a glimpse of CC series,Damn.....I will got sick about 1 month or more!!Ouch!!!! :cry:
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: CV3 on January 08 2006, 11:56 am
well i speak english so its better for me ^`_^
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Ralea on January 08 2006, 12:15 pm
Japanese! Hands down, it's infinitely better!

I still can't get over the chinese checkers joke and Sakoora and her 360's. -_-
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Arcademan on January 08 2006, 12:56 pm
Quote from: CV3 on January 08 2006, 11:56 am
well i speak english so its better for me ^`_^

A loser is you!!! :tongue:

You can't possibly mean that?!!
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: moezychan on January 08 2006, 03:12 pm
Quote from: Arcademan/PixieP on January 08 2006, 12:56 pm
A loser is you!!! :tongue:

You can't possibly mean that?!!

My sisters are the exact same way.  -_- They don't like the Japanese version for the sole reason that they can't understand it! Rediculous.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Arcademan on January 08 2006, 03:14 pm
Now if they made an English version without the butcher job known as Crapcaptors, that I'd understand :)
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Sarah Jane on January 08 2006, 03:16 pm
I'd have to say both.
Now before you hate me.
Hear me out, hehe.

By watching the dubbed on television...
It got me into Cardcaptor Sakura and anime in general.
And for that reason, I have to say both versions.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: moezychan on January 08 2006, 03:37 pm
Quote from: Sarah Jane on January 08 2006, 03:16 pm
I'd have to say both.
Now before you hate me.
Hear me out, hehe.

By watching the dubbed on television...
It got me into Cardcaptor Sakura and anime in general.
And for that reason, I have to say both versions.

I do dislike Cardcaptors extremely, but at the same time, I feel the same way that you do. If I never saw Cardcaptors, I would've never found out about Card Captor Sakura. For that, I'll respect your reason. I still don't like Cardcaptors, but I owe them that much.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Ralea on January 08 2006, 05:30 pm
Quote from: Eriol on January 02 2006, 12:19 pm
Yup!!You darned right,I hate the English version of it and only 2 version off CCSakura I mostly adore,the Japanese and Filipino(local version and no cut-offs)!!! :hehe: :okay:

AMEN! The Filipino version at least didn't butcher CCS, and because of this version I am eternally grateful because I got into CCS. Meaning....

I DON'T OWE CARDCRAPTORS A SINGLE THING!

Yeah! That's how I hate CC so much.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Sohru-san on January 18 2006, 05:52 am
People are really harsh towards the dubbed. >< It bugs me when people make fun of it. I have to say that the subbed sounds more mature. I'm 19 years old, so I like the subbed better.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Moon on January 18 2006, 07:23 am
Sakura is.. what, 10 years old! Tomoyo generally sounds more mature for her age, but for Sakura, she's suppose to be sweet! Most the main characters are children!! I love the japanese verison better, because Sakura sounds so much sweeter then her english counterpart. It makes me clinge.

Although from watching the subbed verison I was able to find out about the original verison. I noticed that they left out so much and I curious as to why. The episode guide is so short compared to how long Card Captor Sakura is. But all I can is, to each their own. If you liked the subbed so much, then thats fine. However most of the members on this forum prefer the japanese more, like myself.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Shiunu on January 18 2006, 10:57 am
I love the Japanese version so much better than the english. I used to watch the english until I got a subed tape and then I couldn't go back to the english.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Tooya_Mizuki on January 19 2006, 04:22 am
I guess the japanese one is better since everyone else says the english one sucks  :lol:. I've only watched cardcaptor once, it was the power card episode.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Kuro-puppy on January 19 2006, 04:38 am
what's the point of this topic, everybody likes the japanese better ...why is obvious

and if there might excist someone who likes english better, he's probably killed by angry anime-fans by now, lol!
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: moezychan on January 19 2006, 08:54 am
Quote from: Kuro-puppy on January 19 2006, 04:38 am
and if there might excist someone who likes english better, he's probably killed by angry anime-fans by now, lol!

Believe it or not, but my sister actually likes the English version better! And whenever I ask her why, her answer is, "Because I can understand what they're saying!" Unbelievable.  -_-
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Kasawa Lanford on January 19 2006, 09:13 am
Isn't that why subtitles where created?

Actually... after watching anime with subs for so many years... It's come rather close to me not needing the subtitles at all :p

But yes.. I like the japanese better
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: moezychan on January 19 2006, 09:15 am
Quote from: Kasawa Lanford on January 19 2006, 09:13 am
Isn't that why subtitles where created?

Actually... after watching anime with subs for so many years... It's come rather close to me not needing the subtitles at all :p

But yes.. I like the japanese better

That's what I said. She, for whatever reason, stands by her decision. I truly don't get it. And as for subtitles, I've watched so many anime episodes I don't really need them either. I can actually understand them!
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Hikari B. on January 19 2006, 09:23 am
Maybe some people like the dubbed version cause they can understand it and don't have to read subtitles.

I still prefer subtitles cause I like the Japanese voices and understand what they say! ^_^
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: moezychan on January 19 2006, 09:34 am
Quote from: hikari_blaze on January 19 2006, 09:23 am
I still prefer subtitles cause I like the Japanese voices and understand what they say! ^_^

Same here! I love the Japanese voices! Sakura Tange has such a kawaii and innocent voice!
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Kuro-puppy on January 19 2006, 03:05 pm
Quote from: moezy-chan on January 19 2006, 08:54 am
Believe it or not, but my sister actually likes the English version better! And whenever I ask her why, her answer is, "Because I can understand what they're saying!" Unbelievable. -_-

*gasp* there still excist people like that?! oh well it's their loss
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Arcademan on January 19 2006, 03:54 pm
Quote from: hikari_blaze on January 19 2006, 09:23 am
Maybe some people like the dubbed version cause they can understand it and don't have to read subtitles.

I still prefer subtitles cause I like the Japanese voices and understand what they say! ^_^

That's understandable...however they couldn't leave CCS alone and ending up butchering it in an attempt to appeal to the merchendising-hungry Americans...and failed miserably at it.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Robin Sena on January 19 2006, 03:59 pm
Can I say Tagalog version?

In terms of accuracy, Japanese.

Though the Animax English is pretty good too.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Eriol on January 19 2006, 07:05 pm
Hehehe!!!Yeah!!!I appreciate CCSakura Tagalog version most than English CC 'cause there is a little flaw in my language but they make it accurate like in Japanese version(Truth,Sakura voice in Tagalog is from also a liitle girl also)!! :hehe:
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: polarius on January 20 2006, 07:32 am
well i think it's kinda obvious the japanese version wins hands

[fyi for you guys who haven't seen any episodes in japanese, you can watch them for free on [www.youtube.com] just type in cardcaptors or CCS or syaoran even and you can find them; no dling needed; mind you not all episodes are posted yet]

I will say this though:

Kero's ghetto voice; i think it worked. Even though i love his high squeaky voice in all its glory [and it made more sense since he was so tiny]

yueh: it wasn't bad! still had that cold/sugoi tone to it

touya: not bad either; but i'm sure it wasn't hard to find some tall guy with a deep voice for his part

terada sensei: I think his american voice is better actually ::runs and hides under covers:: don't hurt me!!! T_T but seriously!! he's not buff enough to have such a guff voice! his shoulders need to be at least twice their size for him to sound like that.

all and all GO JAPANESE! ^^V
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: CV3 on January 20 2006, 08:00 am
okay i really like both languages tell u the truth
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Hikari B. on January 20 2006, 08:04 am
S'okay. We all have our own opinion. ^_^
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Eriol on January 26 2006, 10:25 am
Yes!!I concur with that but I still loyal their in 2 languages(Japanese and Filipino). :noteworthy:
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Chang on February 12 2006, 06:14 pm
i totally dig the japanese version more than the english.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Ando on February 13 2006, 12:10 am
I've never watched Cardcaptors (thank goodness), but I've read about the changes and heard the horrible intro and that was enough for hating the dub. Evil, evil Nelvana.

The secret of the Clau was all a muh-stery... *shudder*
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Arcademan on February 15 2006, 01:25 pm
Look what I added to my collection!!! (http://www.capturedwings.net/forums/index.php?topic=187.msg126613#msg126613)

I still stand by everything that I've posted here.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Shiunu on February 17 2006, 01:10 pm
Quote from: Arcademan/PixieP on February 15 2006, 01:25 pm
Look what I added to my collection!!! (http://www.capturedwings.net/forums/index.php?topic=187.msg126613#msg126613)

I still stand by everything that I've posted here.

Ha! The Cardcaptors dvd covers?
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Arcademan on February 17 2006, 01:28 pm
Quote from: Shiunu on February 17 2006, 01:10 pm
Ha! The Cardcaptors dvd covers?

Worse...the DVD's that were inside those covers :D
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Hikari B. on February 17 2006, 01:31 pm
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! NOT THAT CRAP!!!!!!!!! XP j/k

Personally, the only parts I like from that thing is the SS moments, at least when Syaoran wasn't so mean to Sakura.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: moezychan on February 17 2006, 01:40 pm
Here's one better. I still have them, and I desperately want to get rid of them, but my sister won't let me because she wants to watch the series in English!  :angry: I can't stand those tapes! I want to burn them!
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Arcademan on February 17 2006, 01:47 pm
Still hate the series with all my heart but what can I say? When I collect all things CCS, sometimes you have to take some of the bad with all that's good :)
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Shiunu on February 17 2006, 02:04 pm
Quote from: Arcademan/PixieP on February 17 2006, 01:47 pm
Still hate the series with all my heart but what can I say? When I collect all things CCS, sometimes you have to take some of the bad with all that's good :)

Well that's true. But I can't see myself collecting them. :/
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Hikari B. on February 18 2006, 09:02 am
Here's something retarded. Some people like CrapC cause Li also the hero besides Sakura. >.> T_T

Apparently, Nelvana made CC to appeal to the boy audience too. T___T
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Shiunu on February 18 2006, 10:04 am
^ Yeah. That's what I noticed too! It seems like CC is aimed more towards both boys and girls and it made it seem like just another kiddie show. CCS is a more girlie show it and just has so much more depth. Unlike CC who is just lacking total depth and doesn't even make sense. I remember watching the first episode Cartoonnetwork aired and I was like. o_0 "I didn't understand any of that." It was just awful that they didn't even show the first episode!
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Hikari B. on February 18 2006, 11:33 am
I always get confused when I see a preview of the next episode of a card to catch but they never show it.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Shiunu on February 18 2006, 12:57 pm
Quote from: hikari_blaze on February 18 2006, 11:33 am
I always get confused when I see a preview of the next episode of a card to catch but they never show it.

Yeah that was always weird. Wasn't it like a new card they were going to reveal. Sometimes they would show Sakura capturing the card in that after the episode. It was a card that she had used in the episode. Sometimes it was just weird and it wasn't even a card she had used in that episode. :/
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: moezychan on February 18 2006, 01:07 pm
The one question I continually asked was, how did she become the Card Captor?! And I also wondered who on Earth is Clow Reed?! They didn't even explain who he was!
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Hikari B. on February 18 2006, 01:16 pm
We must kill Nelvana for this madness! T_T

I couldn't understand the episode where Sakura or Kero... talks with Mizuki-sensei and they showed a flashback involving Light and Dark about Yue. I was like, "When did that happen?"
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Shiunu on February 18 2006, 01:19 pm
Its dumb. They like show flashbacks of stuff when they didn't even show them in the first place.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Arcademan on February 18 2006, 01:20 pm
Quote from: moezy-chan on February 18 2006, 01:07 pm
The one question I continually asked was, how did she become the Card Captor?! And I also wondered who on Earth is Clow Reed?! They didn't even explain who he was!

They didn't show the episode where Sa-KOO-Ra became a Cardcaptor until AFTER she beat Yu-A in Final Judgment. As far as Clow (rhymes with 'COW') Reed, they never did explain him in the Englsh version. Ah...the joys of a town called Reedington.

Sorry...couldn't resist writing all that down :D
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Ralea on February 18 2006, 01:28 pm
Seroiusly, dubs you can never get anything good from a dub. Even if it wasn't dub by Nelvana, CCS dubbed still sucks. In Animax anyway. (An anime channel in our country.) But what's good is that they don't butcher it, yet, cheers, I'll stick to my Japanese DVD's if you don't mind.

I absolutely hated the dialog changes! I will NEVER EVER get over Toya, oops sorry, Tori and Julian (which I affectionately dub as the-name-barbie-would-give-to-her-horse :D) talking about NEWTON!

EDIT: LOLZ, I wondered where this thread went. There was a 25 page thread against Nelvana's CC. Clickie desu (http://www.capturedwings.net/forums/index.php?topic=66.0).
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: moezychan on February 18 2006, 01:36 pm
Quote from: Arcademan/PixieP on February 18 2006, 01:20 pm
They didn't show the episode where Sa-KOO-Ra became a Cardcaptor until AFTER she beat Yu-A in Final Judgment. As far as Clow (rhymes with 'COW') Reed, they never did explain him in the Englsh version. Ah...the joys of a town called Reedington.

Sorry...couldn't resist writing all that down :D

Yes, you're right. I remember. I suppose I should've been clearer. I meant that they didn't explain who Clow Reed was at the beginning of the series. My mistake. Thank you for pointing that out.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: ~*~Lunar Eclipse~*~ on February 19 2006, 04:39 am
One of the best things in CCS for me are the little lovey-dovey moments all the time (so cute!) Nelvana got rid of so many of those moments! Yeah sure they kept in many of the s+s moments, but what about Touya and Yukito? Theyre a very cute couple and I think Nelvana edited all of that out, plus Tomoyo's admirations of Sakura. *cry* Those people massacred the series.

Plus, the voices don't suit.
*EDIT: I almost forgot, the music in the english version is kinda, slightly....cringeworthy.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Hikari B. on February 19 2006, 06:23 am
Everyone hates the music. -_- No Nagging's good... I guess. I just don't like the dubbed voices in anime... Japanese is much better and kawaii! ^_^
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: moezychan on February 19 2006, 06:25 am
Quote from: hikari_blaze on February 19 2006, 06:23 am
Everyone hates the music. -_- No Nagging's good... I guess. I just don't like the dubbed voices in anime... Japanese is much better and kawaii! ^_^

Thing is, No Nagging is the opening to the French version of Card Captor Sakura; I'm not entirely sure why CC aired it.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Hikari B. on February 19 2006, 06:28 am
.... I did not know that. (goes to download French CCS theme) Must be the doing of Nelvana again. -_-
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: ~*~Lunar Eclipse~*~ on February 19 2006, 06:54 am
Glad they did air it though, otherwise I wouldnt have heard it. It's true, it's a good song. Gets inside your brain *na na na na naa*
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Shiunu on February 19 2006, 08:02 am
Quote from: ~*~Lunar Eclipse~*~ on February 19 2006, 06:54 am
Glad they did air it though, otherwise I wouldnt have heard it. It's true, it's a good song. Gets inside your brain *na na na na naa*

Ew.. I don't like that song. It like gets stuck in my head everytime I hear it. That songs is just weird to me.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Hikari B. on February 19 2006, 10:58 am
Weird but catchy that is. ^^ But, I don't listen to it anymore...

I guess the French version of Purachina is okay... I guess...
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Ralea on February 19 2006, 11:48 am
No! Don't remind me of CC music. When I heard their version of "Catch you Catch me" I almost died.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Kuro-puppy on February 19 2006, 02:42 pm
Quote from: Ralea on February 19 2006, 11:48 am
No! Don't remind me of CC music. When I heard their version of "Catch you Catch me" I almost died.

the dutch version of that song was awfull.....My name is Sakura! I am a gi-irl *shudders*
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Shiunu on February 19 2006, 02:54 pm
Quote from: Ralea on February 19 2006, 11:48 am
No! Don't remind me of CC music. When I heard their version of "Catch you Catch me" I almost died.

Wait.. there was an english version of catch you catch me? Or was that the french version?
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: ~*~Lunar Eclipse~*~ on February 19 2006, 07:57 pm
They made an english version of quite a few of the Japanese songs...I searched some up on youtube once and I was just frozen completely like- :O They killed it!!!!
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Shiunu on February 20 2006, 02:46 am
Oh really? I never even knew that. Although I'm not quite sure I want to hear them. o_0.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: ~*~Lunar Eclipse~*~ on February 20 2006, 02:59 am
No you're better off that way...you might end up emotionally scarred
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Hikari B. on February 20 2006, 07:38 am
I always press Mute on the remote or just ignore the CC song. o-o
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Kobato on February 21 2006, 07:26 am
Of course I liked the Japanese version better. The characters developed more through each episode and there was actually a plot and character background. The music aint that good in the English version either, esspecially the theme song. The guy who sang it certainly didn't know proper english...they also removed alot of relationships away in Cardcaptors. One of the best things in Cardcaptor Sakura was the relationships, mainly the Syaoran x Sakura and Yukito x Sakura/Syaoran, which were thrown away in the English version.  :cry:

And the characters are more sweeter than the snobby characters in the cropped up and trashed Cardcaptors. :D I much prefer Sakura from CCS over the snobby, selfish and u stressed Sakura from the butchered CC dub, thank you.  :)
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Eriol on February 21 2006, 10:18 am
I think in our Filipino dubbed version got but is only 1,it's Tomoe by Tomoyo Daidouji but it's Ok than they dubbed Opening and Ending theme!!:okay: :hehe:
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: babypigggy on February 21 2006, 10:22 am
I say japanese! teehee..
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Ralea on February 22 2006, 03:31 pm
No, it was Yoru no Uta they dubbed in tagalog. It was cute though.

Kapag ako ay nalulumbay~
Hinahanap ang kalinga ni inay~
Ilang ulit inaasam~
Ang mainit na yakap ng nanay ko~

They kept the meaning of the song intact.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Angela on February 24 2006, 02:23 pm
Personally I think the English version is OK, but only the Australian english version. We had all 70 episodes dubbed so it's a lot better than the American version although the voices are still the same as the American version. All the episodes were dubbed so I wonder why they didn't show them all in America?

I may change my mind though as I've ordered the Japanese version and can't wait to watch it.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Arcademan on February 24 2006, 03:04 pm
Quote from: Angela on February 24 2006, 02:23 pm
Personally I think the English version is OK, but only the Australian english version. We had all 70 episodes dubbed so it's a lot better than the American version although the voices are still the same as the American version. All the episodes were dubbed so I wonder why they didn't show them all in America?


Because they didn't do a straight dub from Japanese to English...they changed the very meaning of the episodes themselves to the point of the show becoming an embarrasement.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Angela on February 24 2006, 04:20 pm
I don't think any dub could be called a straight dub but the aussie version was about as straight as it's gonna get. As far as I can tell nothing was cut but some dialogue was changed. I'll be able to make a better comparison when I see more of the Japanese version.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Cardcaptor Takato on February 25 2006, 12:18 am
Quote from: Angela on February 24 2006, 02:23 pm
Personally I think the English version is OK, but only the Australian english version. We had all 70 episodes dubbed so it's a lot better than the American version although the voices are still the same as the American version. All the episodes were dubbed so I wonder why they didn't show them all in America?

I may change my mind though as I've ordered the Japanese version and can't wait to watch it.
Because Kid's WB wanted the show to focus more on the action aspects of CCS in order to make another Pokemon clone.  Kid's WB skipped the first seven episodes because they weren't action-packed enough and they were also centered around Sakura, but Kid's WB wanted the show to be more about Li.  So, all the other episodes that didn't have a lot of action scenes in them or were about Sakura were either skipped or combined.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Angela on February 25 2006, 10:03 am
Thanks for that. Although I can't see how they made the Pokemon comparison. Pokemon's totally different. And trying to change the main character is a really bad idea.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Hikari B. on February 25 2006, 10:16 am
Pokemon's okay. For me that is since I'm such a Pokemon fanatic. XP

It's Cardcaptors that gets me ticked off. The voices of dubbed really bother me...
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Arcademan on February 25 2006, 11:43 am
The 'Pokemon Clone' reference made was their attempt to make Cardcaptors the 'NEXT BIG TOY CRAZE!' like the Pokemon cards and toys. Alas, it fell flat on its face and all fingers point toward Nelvana and Kids WB for attempting to market it the way they did.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Ralea on February 25 2006, 12:35 pm
In Cardcaptors uncensored (http://www.cardcaptors-uncensored.com) there were some posts that reviewed Cardcaptors merchandise. When I saw those I was like:

WTF?
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: ~*~Lunar Eclipse~*~ on February 27 2006, 07:30 am
How horriffic...
I hate it when they do LOADS and loads of merchandise, like they did with Harry Potter and other things...There's just so much hype then and it gets so annoying! When they reel out tons of stuff, it ends up looking cheap as well *cringe* It would be so bad if they turned Cardcaptors into that-coz that would just cheapen Cardcaptor Sakura for us as well
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: wishingstarx on March 24 2006, 09:15 am
Definitely Japanese! ^_^ The english version is kinda whack...
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: cardcaptor~x on April 12 2006, 03:43 pm
Japanese is way better with everything. Theres stuff in the japanese version they dont show in the english versoins.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Brad on April 13 2006, 10:18 am
In Australia we got an uncut dub of CCS. It had the same voices as the US one and the same name changes, but it had no footage cut (except for a few seconds to fit in commercials or something) and we also got an English version of Catch You Catch Me as well as It's Groovy (I think thyat's the song's name) and Kero's end of episode thing. The Eps were also in order.

I love the Jap version but I liked the English one we got too. I also liked some of the English songs like Just Around the Corner and Tell Me. I think I like both equally.

I did buy a region 1 dvd of Card Captors though and was shocked at what they did to the first episode! It was edited with another one and done in recap!!! Arrr! No wonder so many Americans hate the English Dub. Love my region 4 dvds. The first episode is really the first episode.  :hello2:
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: wingless_godess on April 21 2006, 07:48 am
even though im kinda late on the posting with this topic...um yeah

JPN definately.....i love how with the poll everyone voted for JPN  :rotfl:

when cardcaptors first came out me and my friends would spend all the time bashing it and just saying now Cardcaptor Sakura is way better....

To  me cardcaptors only did one good thing, and that was introduce me to Card Captor Sakura, which led me to loving that as well as finding out about CLAMP, and being introduced to other clamp stuff which is just awsome!~
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Dayanira on April 21 2006, 08:30 am
I've never seen the English version... But after having read this thread I really wish i could see it! :lol:
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: wingless_godess on April 21 2006, 08:41 am
Thats like i have always wanted to see it in like french or Australian or some other contry's version...hehe  :D ...just to see the voices and the differences between Cardcaptors and Card Captor Sakura
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: moezychan on April 21 2006, 08:52 am
I think that this thread has been going on for too long. The poll and the thread should be locked, especially considering that we all agree and there's nothing more to discuss on this.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Ralea on April 21 2006, 09:53 am
What about the others who don't know how bad the dub is? let's keep it open so if they have any questions, we'll be ready to answer.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: moezychan on April 21 2006, 09:56 am
Quote from: Ralea on April 21 2006, 09:53 am
What about the others who don't know how bad the dub is? let's keep it open so if they have any questions, we'll be ready to answer.

Mm, point taken.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: monkey on April 26 2006, 10:59 pm
Quote
The english version is kinda whack...
hahaha.. That makes me think that all the VAs for the english were all on drugs.. a bit whack XD haha..

but really, I did like the English version, I keep saying everywhere and nobody seems to believe me :( lol
I like both cut and uncut. It's all good for me. I guess I like the english cut version too because for most shows I tend to make up stories for the characters inbetween episodes and the like. It's fun, and then sometimes the next episode they act kinda funny like how I thought and it's funny to me and only me XD haha ... ?
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: ~Namine~ on April 27 2006, 03:37 am
oh most definately the japanese version, its better on any anime <3
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Nightbird on April 27 2006, 08:16 am
Asterix is best viewed in French.
Life is Beautiful is best viewed in Italian.
And Card Captor Sakura would thus be best viewed in it's original language.

As for the marketing, that's the whole point.I call it the Industry for a reason.If we didn't buy this stuff they would not make series. We need them for entertainment,they need us for $.

Nevalana was simply the wrong place to go to. They did Babar and the Magic School Bus,which is great but not the tone CLAMP would nessecary want. Time-Warner was a longshot, I have watched that network since I was in 1st grade: They always gear towards boys. Boys/little kids.Doesn't matter now anyways, it got cancelled and got replaced with X-Men Evolution. Which was even more stupid because Marvel is in competition with Time-Warner's comic book property,DC.That was replaced with Teen Titans...To the point every series has to end some time.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Ralea on April 27 2006, 05:48 pm
Quote from: Nightbird on April 27 2006, 08:16 am
Nevalana was simply the wrong place to go to. They did Babar and the Magic School Bus,which is great but not the tone CLAMP would nessecary want. Time-Warner was a longshot, I have watched that network since I was in 1st grade: They always gear towards boys. Boys/little kids.Doesn't matter now anyways, it got cancelled and got replaced with X-Men Evolution. Which was even more stupid because Marvel is in competition with Time-Warner's comic book property,DC.That was replaced with Teen Titans...To the point every series has to end some time.

Sad.......

Didn't it even entered their minds to for once gear towards girls?!
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: ricochet on June 16 2006, 04:24 pm
japanese is better
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Arcademan on June 17 2006, 03:18 pm
Quote from: Ralea on February 25 2006, 12:35 pm
In Cardcaptors uncensored (http://www.cardcaptors-uncensored.com) there were some posts that reviewed Cardcaptors merchandise. When I saw those I was like:

WTF?

Some of the English Cardcaptors toys and merchandise weren't too bad. The board game and some of the figures sets were lousy but the dolls were well done, the Clow Book is a sought-after item and the Staff was pretty good.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Ando on July 05 2006, 04:48 am
Hnnn... hhh... hnaaAAAAAGH! (don't klick unless you're up for some ranting)
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Noooo! It's horrible! No, it's even beyond that - it's nightmarish! I tried to watch the first episode of Cardcaptors on YouTube, but didn't last five minutes. What have they done! How could they?! They butchered it... I never realized to what extent until just now. Sakura's voice... her cuteness, her childishness! Tomoyo's soft-spokenness and sweetness - how could they! And, sweet holy mother of utter despair - Yukito's frikkin voice, it's horrifying! I just cried out loud when he opened his mouth. Really, I'm trembling all over. Yukito's. Frikkin. Voice.
  Damn you forever, Nelvana.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Kuro-puppy on July 05 2006, 05:05 am
Quote from: Ando on July 05 2006, 04:48 am
Hnnn... hhh... hnaaAAAAAGH! (don't klick unless you're up for some ranting)
Show content
Noooo! It's horrible! No, it's even beyond that - it's nightmarish! I tried to watch the first episode of Cardcaptors on YouTube, but didn't last five minutes. What have they done! How could they?! They butchered it... I never realized to what extent until just now. Sakura's voice... her cuteness, her childishness! Tomoyo's soft-spokenness and sweetness - how could they! And, sweet holy mother of utter despair - Yukito's frikkin voice, it's horrifying! I just cried out loud when he opened his mouth. Really, I'm trembling all over. Yukito's. Frikkin. Voice.
Damn you forever, Nelvana.

i never heard Yukito's voice in Cardcaptors....thank god!
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: moezychan on July 05 2006, 05:09 am
Quote from: Kuro-puppy on July 05 2006, 05:05 am
i never heard Yukito's voice in Cardcaptors....thank god!

I envy you >_< It's horrible!
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Arcademan on July 05 2006, 05:32 am
Quote from: moezy-chan on July 05 2006, 05:09 am
I envy you >_< It's horrible!

Yes...I agree with you 100% on that.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Takeru on July 06 2006, 10:09 am
Do you think the cast of CardCaptors ever saw the original before or during production?
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: SasukeRocks on July 07 2006, 06:30 am
Japanese!
I couldn't stand the voices of the voice actors for the english version.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Ando on July 07 2006, 09:45 pm
Quote from: Takeru ¥amamoto on July 06 2006, 10:09 am
Do you think the cast of CardCaptors ever saw the original before or during production?

I highly doubt that they did (and if they did, how on earth could they ever agree to cast Cardcraptors?!). I doubt very few voice actors of dubbed shows ever do, judging from the horrible way most of them pronounce the Japanese names.

Phew. I've spent the last days repeating Yukito's first "ohayou!" over and over in my head. I think I have finally managed to repress the sound of Julian Star - I remember what he said and that it sounded horrible, but I cannot remember the sound of it. Go me.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Takeru on July 08 2006, 04:06 am
Quote from: Ando on July 07 2006, 09:45 pm
I highly doubt that they did (and if they did, how on earth could they ever agree to cast Cardcraptors?!).
For money and infamy?
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Ashlee on July 08 2006, 04:08 am
Quote from: Takeru ¥amamoto on July 08 2006, 04:06 am
For money and infamy?
Yeah. Most of the people do that, just for the fame and money. But If I got the change to do the voices, I would make sure, that everything was kept the same. And I wouldn't be in the money or fame. I would love to do a voice of one of CLAMP works. Like come on, its CLAMP.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: moezychan on July 08 2006, 05:40 am
Quote from: Takeru ¥amamoto on July 08 2006, 04:06 am
For money and infamy?

This begs the real question though. Did they achieve either?? If anything, the only thing Cardcaptors is famous for is screwing up the most wonderful anime ever!
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: tg on July 08 2006, 07:32 am
I remember those early days on Kids!WB.  Oh my gosh.   I was collecting the CCS manga long before they announced the dub.  When they did make the dub, I was curious but upon watching it, I felt like it slapped me in the face!!   O_o

Horrible!   It got lots of kids, who never heard of CCS, interested.  That was one marketing thing that went right for Nelvana BUT.... if you went on fanfiction.net back then.   How many people were putting down the dub names in their fanfiction??   Many!   It was so sad that the new fans were fans of the dub and would probably never learn of the true CCS until they go on a CCS fansite.   The only thing I liked from CC was the song "Ordinary Girl" but other than that, Nelvana's CC was just atrociuos.

It's a good thing a lot of CCS fans were putting up petitiononlines left and right against Nelvana right after the dub aired.  I have all of the CCS episodes, plus two movies, in VCD format that comes with Mandarin subtitiles.  Sakura Tange is the best "Sakura", I would ever hear in my life compared to the dub.  :D   As long as Tokyopop's version of CCS manga exists, at least, it should guide some interested fans in the right direction a little.    I have seen the Engilsh versions of "Catch You Catch Me" and "Fruits Candy" on YouTube awhile back.   It was a pretty good adaptation even if they don't follow the right lyrics.  It just annoyed me a little as to why the the Nelvana dub didn't use it.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Ando on July 08 2006, 07:47 am
Quote from: tg on July 08 2006, 07:32 am
I have seen the Engilsh versions of "Catch Me Catch You" and "Fruits Candy" on YouTube awhile back. It was a pretty good adaptation even if they don't follow the right lyrics.

The dubbed version of "Catch You Catch Me", in my opinion, is horrible. I'm Sakuura, I'm just a girl, like, and now I know, like, I've found a magic book... Come on! :dodge: Plus, the singer sings false at the higher parts (it's nothing compared to the French version of Platinum, though). I do agree, however, that the English "Fruits Candy" is ok.

While we're speaking songs - the one with the lyrics You're the Guardian of the Cards, you're the choosen one of every boy and girl... is kinda catchy, actually. Is it used as an insert song, or is it an ending/opening theme?
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Cherry tiger on July 08 2006, 12:05 pm
Quote from: Ando on July 08 2006, 07:47 am
While we're speaking songs - the one with the lyrics You're the Guardian of the Cards, you're the choosen one of every boy and girl... is kinda catchy, actually. Is it used as an insert song, or is it an ending/opening theme?

I remember hearing it in the movie, but I'm not sure if it came out during the series. >_> In fact, the movie was the only 'Cardcaptors' episode I've ever watched... and as much as I ahte their voices, I thought the music was pretty good. -___- Not as great as the original, but still good.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Celestial on July 08 2006, 07:19 pm
English Cardcaptors just sucks. No more can be said.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Ando on July 09 2006, 01:06 am
"What Evil Dub Cardcaptors Character are You?" Right on target!

http://www.quizilla.com/users/kobayashi/quizzes/ANIME%20QUIZ%3A%20What%20Evil%20Dub%20Card%20Captor%20%28Cardcaptor%29%20Character%20are%20You%3F
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Takeru on July 09 2006, 02:08 am
That is hilarious. I applaud you.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Razeasha on July 09 2006, 02:17 am
Quote from: Ando on July 08 2006, 07:47 am
The dubbed version of "Catch You Catch Me", in my opinion, is horrible. I'm Sakuura, I'm just a girl, like, and now I know, like, I've found a magic book... Come on! :dodge: Plus, the singer sings false at the higher parts (it's nothing compared to the French version of Platinum, though). I do agree, however, that the English "Fruits Candy" is ok.

While we're speaking songs - the one with the lyrics You're the Guardian of the Cards, you're the choosen one of every boy and girl... is kinda catchy, actually. Is it used as an insert song, or is it an ending/opening theme?
I never herd those in english...I just herd the little CardCaptors 45 second thing...
I met the VA who did Kero-chan in English. He's from Canada and that really ios his real voice. He does a hamster on hamtaro...
I think the Spanish version of Catch you Catch me is kind of funny!  = 3
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Arcademan on July 09 2006, 08:37 am
I still wonder why this thread is open...the choice is rather obvious.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: tg on July 09 2006, 12:59 pm
Quote from: Ando on July 08 2006, 07:47 am
The dubbed version of "Catch You Catch Me", in my opinion, is horrible. I'm Sakuura, I'm just a girl, like, and now I know, like, I've found a magic book... Come on! :dodge: Plus, the singer sings false at the higher parts (it's nothing compared to the French version of Platinum, though). I do agree, however, that the English "Fruits Candy" is ok.

While we're speaking songs - the one with the lyrics You're the Guardian of the Cards, you're the choosen one of every boy and girl... is kinda catchy, actually. Is it used as an insert song, or is it an ending/opening theme?

I just re-listened to the english version of "Catch You Catch Me".    Hmm..   As much annoying as those "likes" are in the song lyrics, I would actually take that rather than the sort of catchy: "Wind, Rain, Shadow, Wood, Sword, Thunder, Power, Sleep. Cardcaptors of the Clow, Expect the unexpected now!".  It was a cheesily done theme song for CC!   >_<

As for "Gaurdian of the Cards" song, I have no clue.   I'm listening to it right now to see if it can jog my memory.   I think, it was used in a battle scene or something.   >_>  Definitely not for the ending/opening of CC, but I'm not sure about Nelvana's dub of the first movie (which thankfully, I never got to see).

Quote from: Arcademan
I still wonder why this thread is open...the choice is rather obvious.

Yep, but the poll did close with 14 votes because it was pretty obvious.  I just found this thread very refreshing because I can express my thoughts out that I haven't put down for years!   ^o^  Heheeh...
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Takeru on July 10 2006, 03:08 am
Quote from: Arcademan on July 09 2006, 08:37 am
I still wonder why this thread is open...the choice is rather obvious.
I was just thinking the same thing. I guess people still have a lot to rant about CardCaptors.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Arcademan on July 10 2006, 03:11 am
Quote from: Takeru ¥amamoto on July 10 2006, 03:08 am
I was just thinking the same thing. I guess people still have a lot to rant about CardCaptors.

Maybe we should rename this thread 'Why Crapcaptors makes us wanna puke!!!" :D
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Takeru on July 10 2006, 08:01 am
Quote from: moezy-chan on July 08 2006, 05:40 am
This begs the real question though. Did they achieve either?? If anything, the only thing Cardcaptors is famous for is screwing up the most wonderful anime ever!
Yes, in fact they did achieve both.

in·fa·my
n.
   1. Evil fame or reputation.
   2. The condition of being infamous.
   3. An evil or criminal act that is publicly known.

Infamy is a no-brainer. As for money, an actor does have to get paid by the casting office in order to perform a role.

Quote from: Arcademan on July 10 2006, 03:11 am
Maybe we should rename this thread 'Why Crapcaptors makes us wanna puke!!!" :D
Or maybe we should unlock the original CardCaptors hate thread (http://www.capturedwings.net/forums/index.php?topic=66.0). You know, the one that immediately garnered attention and became the most popular thread in the General CCS Discussions section. You know, the one that has more posts than any other thread here. You know, the one that got locked for thread necromancy. >=(
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Arcademan on July 10 2006, 09:25 am
Rules weren't followed in that thread. If the same thing happened here, I'd make sure it'd get locked as well.

See. Simple.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Konata Izumi on July 12 2006, 05:50 pm
I'll go with the Japanese Translation.... Animax had it's own english translation, but although I applaud them for not editing the episodes like Nelvana did (>.<), their dubbing stinks. :P So I'll stick with the original Japanese dub... At least they sound cute XD
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Dayanira on July 14 2006, 11:25 am
OMG... i finally managed to watch some eng-dub episodes! Well... THAT WAS FUN! I laughed pretty hard ^^.
Of course it is horrible if people never watch the original version and form their impression by only the dub, but the dub is not that bad... as i said that was fun!
Sakura sounds so... bratty, Tomoyo... Kero... finally YUKITO! Omg... HE sounds like some pimple-faced teenage looser!

But what just KILLS me is their names... How on Earth did the creators come up with such creepy names?
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: tg on July 18 2006, 04:58 pm
Quote from: Chiaki on July 14 2006, 11:25 am
But what just KILLS me is their names... How on Earth did the creators come up with such creepy names?

Glad you found the dubs funny.   ^_^     And I don't know how Nelvana came up with such weird names that they thought were beneficial to kids who never heard Japanese names before.  Some were pretty easy to understand why but others were just plain silly!   :keke:

The bolded names are the ones that seem closer to their original names which is where, I believe, Nelvana thought of those names from.  This is excluding the names that were left un-touched, a bit altered, or cut into half.

Sakura Kinomoto ---> Sakura Avalon
Touya Kinomoto ----> Tori Avalon
Fujitaka Kinomoto ----> Aiden Avalon
Nadeshiko Kinomoto ----> Natasha Avalon
Masaki Amamiya ----> Never appeared in CC
Tomoyo Daidouji ----> Madison Taylor  (Just because Tomoyo loved making costumes that Nelvana thought Madison Ave. in NYC and clothing store, Lord & Taylor, would fit together just nicely!!  O___o)
Yukito Tsukishiro ----> Julian Star (Just out of curiosity.....Why "Star" as his last name!?  "Moon" would've fit him better! :lol:)
Kero-chan/Cerberus ----> Kero/Cerberus
Syaoran Li ----> Showron Li  (Based on how his name is pronounced in the anime which sounds like "Shaoran".)
Meiling Li ----> Meilin Li
Rika Sasaki ----> Rita
Naoko Yanagisawa ----> Nikki (And to think, this was the "rumored" dub name for Sakura!  :rotfl:)
Chiharu Mihara ----> Chelsea
Takashi Yamazaki ----> Zachary
Yoshiyuki Terada ----> Mr. Terata
Kaho Mizuki ---->  Layla Mackenzie  (>_> Very Americanish name.)
Clow Reed ----> Clow Reed
Yue ----> Yue
Suppi/Spinel Sun ----> Spinner/Spinel (Hahahahhah!!  Spinner~!  It's just sounds so......wrong.  Poor Suppi-chan!)
Eriol Hiiragazawa ----> Eli    (Sounds very mystical....) 
Nakuru Akizuki/Ruby Moon ----> Ruby/Ruby Moon  (And the most obvoius name of all!)
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Arcademan on July 19 2006, 10:58 am
And I just had to add this bit from the Crapcaptors dub...the name of the town was changed from Tomoeda to "Reedington?!!  :dontknow:

Also Eriol's full name was changed to Eli Moon  :dodge:
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Takeru on July 19 2006, 11:25 am
Eli doesn't sound too bad, in fact Eriol can be mispronounced in English as Arial, which is a girl's name. XD

But Moon, Star, Avalon... what simple and cliche magical surnames. And Rika = Rita? Really, is the name change even needed? Rika's a perfectly American name.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Cardcaptor Takato on July 20 2006, 06:31 am
And let's not forget that Sonomi was changed to Samantha, though I don't think that was that bad of a name change, at least not compared to the others.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Strawberry on July 20 2006, 08:31 pm
I don't think it's weird in Cardcaptors that everyone has an Engliah name expect for Sakura (excluding Syoaran, Meilin since they are from Hong Hong, also Kero, Yue because they are not human) To me this is like, Sakura is the only person in Cardcaptors to be an international person from the others???? sounds abit weird and confusing to me
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Takeru on July 21 2006, 02:40 am
They don't even tell us what country Reedington is in anyways. Why? There's no such thing as internationality, or nationality in general, for that matter. Think about it. As gathered from the dub, Sakura and Co. live in the Imaginary Country of Dubsâ„¢ where there's no such thing as ethnicity or cultural difference or somesuch, and it's obvious that Nelvana wanted to effectively eliminate all Asian culture from CCS in translation, to the point where they even stereotypically romanized Li's first name and intentionally invented Invisible Chalkâ„¢.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: AznFFTRCCCSxxxholicGirl on September 22 2006, 09:38 am
I love Japanese better because I love Japanese
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Hima on November 22 2006, 02:25 pm
I admit I only watched the English version on the net. But as I've seen both versions, the Japanese version rules for me. I was horrified by the English. Not to mention I really didn't like the official Cardcaptors site that much.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Angel-chan on November 22 2006, 02:39 pm
Japanese is way better. In english they cut off some scenes from the Japanese version.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Fairie Inc. on December 04 2006, 02:57 pm
Japanese, deffinately. I was first introduced to CC which was in english but once I started watching CCS I fell in love with the Japanese, and I thought that the english voices were horrible. I havent watched CC since.

Fairie Inc.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Hack on December 04 2006, 03:09 pm
why of all the name is Avalon her last name anyway?
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Kasawa Lanford on December 04 2006, 03:37 pm
Because Avalon is the name of castle back in the old days of King Auther and the Round Table.

Nelvana tried to make some sort of link with King Auther that way there the story would be viewed more toward the child base.

This didn't work, as everyone who has seen the Japanese Version (The REAL version) knows that the story wasn't based off that, in fact, it was no where near it.

At least, thats from what I've learned anyway from other people ;)
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Hack on December 04 2006, 03:49 pm
Quote from: Kasawa Lanford on December 04 2006, 03:37 pm
Because Avalon is the name of castle back in the old days of King Auther and the Round Table.

Nelvana tried to make some sort of link with King Auther that way there the story would be viewed more toward the child base.

This didn't work, as everyone who has seen the Japanese Version (The REAL version) knows that the story wasn't based off that, in fact, it was no where near it.

At least, thats from what I've learned anyway from other people ;)

oh, that's reasonable *sarcasm*
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Hima on December 05 2006, 12:51 pm
LOL, the way Nelvana thought of those names is really pretty bloody hilarious.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Eriol on December 12 2006, 03:55 pm
It's OK that I rather watched the Japanese version than English lately and I can't blame it you know I mean!!! :okay:
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: kero _chan on December 12 2006, 04:57 pm
for me .......i would prefer the jap version....cause it nicer and when they talk in eng is totally horrible...and it sucks *well except some *
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Sabbe-chan on December 12 2006, 06:48 pm
I always prefer the japanese version of a japanese anime. And from what I know, they  aren't
that good at dubbing anime in England. I've always hated the english voices in the series I've watched. they didn't sound like the japanese voices at all. I don't like that they changed the names and cut off some scenes in CCS. It kinda ruins it.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Kaze no Shikyo on December 13 2006, 01:52 pm
GO JAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Eriol on December 15 2006, 12:05 am
I hail Japanese version with or without caption language!! :hehe:
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Kuro-puppy on December 21 2006, 10:03 pm
nobody votes for English, i almost feel bad for them. ALMOST!!! X3
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Eriol on December 23 2006, 06:11 pm
Hehe!!!That's nice...
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Konata Izumi on December 24 2006, 10:50 pm
well, as they say, nothing beats the original XD
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: FieryPrincess on December 28 2006, 02:15 pm
^ That's true! :D

Japanese version is still the best. I have watched the English version once and I hate the voices. Also the names. *argh*

And is it true that Tomoyo's "counterpart" in the English version (Madison) says that she BUYS the costumes for Sakura and not making it herself? If it's true, I'd really flare up. I like Tomoyo, that's why.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Ando on December 29 2006, 12:31 am
Quote from: FieryPrincess on December 28 2006, 02:15 pm
And is it true that Tomoyo's "counterpart" in the English version (Madison) says that she BUYS the costumes for Sakura and not making it herself? If it's true, I'd really flare up. I like Tomoyo, that's why.

From what I've heard, Madison says at some point that she found one costume in a magazine (but she made it for Sakoora herself). Which is nearly equally horrible - Tomoyo design the outfits all by herself. Stupid Nelvana.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Hima on January 25 2007, 03:44 pm
*scoffs "damn dubbers"*

I haven't really seen and heard CC, but I first went to its main site before I realized CC and CCS were different (in some ways, of course). It really made me mad to see their names all screwed up. Of course, fans as we are, we couldn't help feel a little disappointed. (Not that little!  D<)

But sometimes, people just don't care about the "little" details. They're just thankful for the dub. At least, the series came out for them to see. That's their reason.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Robin Sena on January 25 2007, 04:49 pm
It's such a mismatch.

Had CC has been released last year, things would have been a bit different.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Kasawa Lanford on January 25 2007, 06:56 pm
How's that Robin? ?_?
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Robin Sena on January 26 2007, 02:04 am
Well, just an anime standpoint.

CCS could be a good entrance tool for TRC (if they decide to release it there).

Kinda sad. CCS is an SS-Tier Anime. CC turned into a D-Tier Anime.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: moezy-chan on January 26 2007, 02:34 am
Quote from: Robin Sena on January 26 2007, 02:04 am
Well, just an anime standpoint.

CCS could be a good entrance tool for TRC (if they decide to release it there).

Kinda sad. CCS is an SS-Tier Anime. CC turned into a D-Tier Anime.

It certainly would be different if CCS was released as CC last year. I wouldn't be surprised if a battle of the sides would happen. And I doubt that Tsubasa would be as popular, since many CCS fans moved on to liking Tsubasa for having Sakura and Syaoran. And even if CC isn't CCS, it brought more people to the fandom, myself included.
Title: Re: Which is better? Japanese or English?
Post by: Robin Sena on January 26 2007, 02:41 am
BTW...

CCS - SS-Tier (98.2%)

CC - D-Tier (31.8%)

Huge difference.

I agree with your ponts moezy-chan, good way to shift fans on the new series.