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monkey:
I've still never played an Xbox 360, Playstation 3, Nintendo Wii or a Nintendo DS.

I thought it was quite funny that when the PS3 got released over here (only just recently) none of the stores around here sold out at all, probably due to the fact it costs far too much money for a machine that does so very little (I'm talking about the lack of games and lack of HD DVDs which all cost £50 (est. $100USD) which is far too much on their own anyway) while the PS3 costs £430 (That would be est. $850USD) albeit it has lowered in price to £400 (est. $790USD) It's still far more extreme than how much the USPS3 cost.

It's been a few years since I last called myself a gamer since my time playing Video Games has been drastically shortened (I'd be lucky if I spend one hour on Video Gaming in a week nowadays) but So far I've not seen many fun games from the 360 and PS3 but obviously since Wii is a party console I've seen lots. Also the Animé Club I attend have set up a Wii tournament before and I've been told it was a lot of fun, so I look forward to attending one of those soon too.

The main reason I bought a PSP was, I admit, to play Final Fantasy Crisis Core & Final Fantasy Tactics but those games are still a long way off on being released so I spend most my PSP playing time on Tekken 5 and Dragonball Z Budokai Tenkaichi. I intend to get a DS soon because of it's such low price and incredible variation of games. The members of the Animé Club I attend I have noticed that virtually all the members have a DS and many Japanese games ranging from musical dance to 2D fighters, all looking to be very fun to play. Not to mention the price of games being only £10 to £30 (est. $20USD to $40USD respectively). The graphics may be lower quality but the quality of gaming seems to be far superior. Although I am yet to judge since I am only going by what I have seen and I have yet to actually play a Nintendo DS. In short, I plan to get a DS soon and a Wii next year.

I've heard aswell that the game play videos that PS3 showed to the public turned out to be incredibly inaccurate with none of their games having anywhere near as good graphics as their demos of the product said they would. Is Sony talking nonsense again or is this false?

I also hear that Sony are planning to release a new smaller powerful PS3, is there any truth to this?

Takeru:

--- Quote from: VexNet on April 15 2007, 04:23 am ---...far too much money for a machine that does so very little (I'm talking about the lack of games and lack of HD DVDs which all cost £50 (est. $100USD) which is far too much on their own anyway)
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Well, HD-DVD is licensed by Microsoft, so I seriously doubt they'd ever come out with a peripheral for playing HD-DVD's on a Sony product like the PS3. However, it does play Blu-Ray DVD's, which can hold more data, but come at a much steeper price (and the built-in Blu-Ray player is half the reason why PS3's are so expensive). The difference is that Microsoft gives players a choice whether they want to install an HD-DVD addon or not, thereby decreasing their price. With PS3's, it comes standard, so you don't have to spend extra on a bulky addon. Problem is, it's there, even if you don't want or need it. But all PS3 games are installed onto Blu-Ray DVDs anyway, so even if you had a choice, it's obvious, since you can't play games on it without the Blu-Ray reader.


--- Quote from: VexNet on April 15 2007, 04:23 am ---while the PS3 costs £430 (That would be est. $850USD) albeit it has lowered in price to £400 (est. $790USD) It's still far more extreme than how much the USPS3 cost.
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Not only that, it has fewer features. They got rid of the PS2 Emotion Engine chip from all PS3's being released in Europe, so many popular PS1 and PS2 games can't be played. However, they do have software emulation (similar to the 360 solution), so many of the older games are indeed backwards compatible, with only minor glitches.


--- Quote from: VexNet on April 15 2007, 04:23 am ---The graphics may be lower quality but the quality of gaming seems to be far superior. Although I am yet to judge since I am only going by what I have seen and I have yet to actually play a Nintendo DS. In short, I plan to get a DS soon and a Wii next year.
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And that's why both the Wii and the DS are more popular than the PS3 and PSP. There's a bigger variety of deeper, more interesting games. But there are a lot of promising titles in development for PS3, so the tide should shift soon.


--- Quote from: VexNet on April 15 2007, 04:23 am ---I've heard aswell that the game play videos that PS3 showed to the public turned out to be incredibly inaccurate with none of their games having anywhere near as good graphics as their demos of the product said they would. Is Sony talking nonsense again or is this false?
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Well, yes and no. Motorstorm was extremely close to being as good-looking as the videos; it looks incredible and runs really smoothly (unlike the demos you see on PS3 booths, which are prerelease and have horrible performance). Unfortunately, it's the only game that came even close to the quality of the CG-rendered teaser trailers.


--- Quote from: VexNet on April 15 2007, 04:23 am ---I also hear that Sony are planning to release a new smaller powerful PS3, is there any truth to this?

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Never heard of such a thing being announced. But if it's true, it's likely to be smaller, but definitely not more powerful. Consoles can't change their specs after launch. But the shrink-job happened twice before with both of Sony's previous consoles. The original PlayStation got a PSOne, and the PS2 got the PS2 Slim, so yeah, it's absolutely possible if not guaranteed, but not for a long time (maybe two years or more), and I can assure you there won't be any differences in performance.

UPDATE: Sony is planning to unveil a new PlayStation 3 model which will have a larger hard drive, but no other details have been confirmed. Also of note: Microsoft is also planning to release a new retail model of their 360: the Xbox 360 Elite package. It will have a matte-black finish with matching-colored accessories (unlike the Core and Premium's original white), an HDMI port for clearer high-definition output and 1080p resolution support, and a 120 GB hard drive.

Here's to hoping that the new PS3 model will have a shiny silver finish. =D In other news, time to sell my current 360. XD

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