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Next-Gen Video Game Consoles. DEBATE!
Kuro-puppy:
--- Quote from: Takeru ¥amamoto on March 08 2007, 07:53 am ---You'll be surprised. A lot of third-party publishers have produced pretty nifty games for the Wii so far. For sports fans, Madden NFL 07 is great, interesting control scheme and everything. Excite Truck is just plain fun for racing fans; get the steering wheel addon if you really wanna immerse yourself. I also love Sonic and the Secret Rings; best 3D Sonic game to come out in a while. But I guess the control schemes aren't too innovative there. But that's where The Godfather: Blackhand Edition, which seems to make the best use of the Wii control scheme so far in terms of third-party games. I guess you can't really blame the third-party developers, though. Nintendo knows what they're doing, and they know their hardware better than anyone else, so I guess it's just a given that they're good at adapting to it more than anyone else.
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Ohh! they're doing better than i originally read. And i've heard about the new Sonic game and read about it, it's supposed to be best 3D sonic game in a long while (I like sonic games but it's hard to find really good ones v.v). The thing i'm most curious about is the Wii's internet. I've heard it's free, you probably only have to buy the internet equipment or something, because from what i now you can surf on the internet like pc's and download (S)NES games and N64 games (that costs money tough). I hope the internet will be good for challenging other people in games like the new Smash Bros. No more having to travel through the country for strong opponents ^_^
Takeru:
Haha, so you're one of those SSBM masters, huh. Well, the WiiConnect24 service is free indeed. In fact, both it and the PlayStation Network are free of charge, unlike Xbox Live, which costs money but has a lot more features and better connectivity. And actually, with the Wii, you don't need any extra equipment to get it online. It can connect to any wireless connection in your house, without the hassle of any wires whatsoever. If you have a router, connecting the Wii to the internet is extremely simple. If you don't, the console comes with a wire that lets you connect it to your modem or ethernet hub.
At the moment, however, the WiiConnect24 service doesn't hook you up with random strangers on the internet when you play games, like the PS Network or Xbox Live. You need to exchange something called "friend codes" 9which work a lot like phone numbers) with friends of yours in order to interact with them at all. While it's good at keeping little Susan from meeting up with strange old men across the internet while playing Pokemon, it's not good for hardcore gamers who want to just jump into a game of Madden NFL 07 against an unpredictable adversary.
Kuro-puppy:
--- Quote from: Takeru ¥amamoto on March 11 2007, 05:36 pm ---At the moment, however, the WiiConnect24 service doesn't hook you up with random strangers on the internet when you play games, like the PS Network or Xbox Live. You need to exchange something called "friend codes" 9which work a lot like phone numbers) with friends of yours in order to interact with them at all. While it's good at keeping little Susan from meeting up with strange old men across the internet while playing Pokemon, it's not good for hardcore gamers who want to just jump into a game of Madden NFL 07 against an unpredictable adversary.
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That was not so smart of Nintendo but you can always gain friend codes through forums and stuff so it's not a total disaster XD
If you're gonna buy an Xbox 360 i would suggesting waiting with that, a week ago there was this broadcast in my country. It seems that when Microsoft installed the DVD part (the part that reads the game discs info) they forgot to install the safety rubbers that the dvd players have. thanks to that the game discs will touch the metallic part and it creates a circular scratch on the game discs destroying the game. This has happened to a few hundred gamers in my country already and the number of complaints are still rising. Microsoft doesn't want to admit they made an error and just say that the gamers don't place the Xbox 360 on a stable enough ground/table/whatever.
It doesn't matter to me tough since i have no interest in Xbox games (most Xbox games are action games, race games, shooter games and i'm not really that fond of those genres) ^^
I am really interested in the PS3 tough, mainly coz of Final Fantasy but also because of DMC4 (I'm a huge fan of the 3rd one!) and the port of Ninja Gaiden with some extra's < - - - - Ninja Gaiden just plain rocks in my opinion but i don't buy a console for just one game, no matter how cool it is so now with PS3 i'm getting a 2nd change at this game ^_^
--- Quote from: Takeru ¥amamoto on March 11 2007, 05:36 pm ---Haha, so you're one of those SSBM masters, huh.
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not really, i fought against a guy that particapates with his team in the SSBM national championship of my country (I met him during a small unofficial tournament a few months ago) and i lost with 3-4 so i still have a long way to go before i have the right to be called SSBM master >.<
Takeru:
--- Quote from: Kuro-puppy on March 12 2007, 04:03 am ---That was not so smart of Nintendo but you can always gain friend codes through forums and stuff so it's not a total disaster XD
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True. People have come up with their own solutions to Nintendo's little phone number thing. Nintendo is smart though. Eventually, they'll realize their mistake. And when they do, they'll allow the option to let you meet up with random people and play against them, like you can on the other consoles, alongside the friend code feature, for those who still want to protect their family's privacy.
--- Quote from: Kuro-puppy on March 12 2007, 04:03 am ---It seems that when Microsoft installed the DVD part (the part that reads the game discs info) they forgot to install the safety rubbers that the dvd players have. thanks to that the game discs will touch the metallic part and it creates a circular scratch on the game discs destroying the game.
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And that's probably one of the Xbox 360's greatest hardware failures. If you move the 360, the CD may be pushed against the metallic reader, causing a huge ring-shaped scratch. It's been a huge controversy, and I myself got that "ring of death" on my Burnout Revenge CD when I accidentally knocked it over while I was vacuuming the house and my sister was playing. Holy crap, it made this insane grinding noise that scared me half to death. See it in action.
But there is and has always has been a label on the front of the 360's disc tray that says clearly not to move the machine while a game is running inside. It's probably common sense in the first place not to move a product with a fast-speed DVD reader when it's running, but people do it anyways, and while it is a hardware failure, Microsoft at least addressed it, and it's also the consumer's fault for not listening to the safety labels. Regardless, just that one problem shouldn't defer you from buying a 360. Just don't move the console while it's on! It's not that hard.
--- Quote from: Kuro-puppy on March 12 2007, 04:03 am ---It doesn't matter to me tough since i have no interest in Xbox games (most Xbox games are action games, race games, shooter games and i'm not really that fond of those genres) ^^
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Well I'm sure you've heard the news that Hironobu Sakaguchi, the mastermind behind the Final Fantasy series, is creating two RPG's for the 360: one is Blue Dragon, and the other is Lost Odyssey. Joining him is Nobuo Uematsu, who has composed music for the majority of Final Fantasy games. The 360 is gaining much popularity in that field, and Blue Dragon is a highly-rated masterpiece that has already helped to improve sales in Japan. Outside of those FF-esque adventures, there's also Eternal Sonata, Enchanted Arms, Spectral Force, and Phantasy Star Universe, which all have yet to be released (except Phantasy Star Universe, which is okay, but isn't too great).
Besides that, development costs for games on the PS3 have been on the rise; it simply costs way too much money to make a game for the PS3. Some of the PS2's most memorable games were always RPG's, but they were always quaint and cute and not too flashy (Disgaea, La Pucelle, games like that). They fit perfectly on the PS2... but what about the PS3? This is only a theory, but since most RPG's don't rely on million-dollar budgets, most low-profile RPG makers seem to be ready to move over to the Wii, which costs a lot less to develop for. For the most part, people who pay $600 USD to buy a PS3 are looking for incredible graphics and edge-of-your-seat gameplay. RPG's don't categorize into either of those. I'm not saying that they're inferior to action games, in fact I like RPG's more than action games. However, you look at a typical RPG and you see modest presentation values. They don't need to be flashy to be great games. Sometimes, the lack of prettiness is what gives them their own style. Final Fantasy focuses on grandiose and epic adventures, so it's perfectly at home on the PS3, but there are lots of people who just don't have as much money as Square Enix does. Basically, what I'm saying is that the PlayStation brand is starting to lose its momentum as a roleplaying platform, simply because it just costs way too much. In fact, it's starting to take the place of the original Xbox as the hardcore action gaming platform.
I mean... that's what Sony wants! What with all their claims about "4D gaming" and "120 FPS" and all of that nonsense.
Kuro-puppy:
--- Quote from: Takeru ¥amamoto on March 17 2007, 06:11 am ---it made this insane grinding noise that scared me half to death. See it in action.
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That was scary indeed >.<
--- Quote from: Takeru ¥amamoto on March 17 2007, 06:11 am ---Sometimes, the lack of prettiness is what gives them their own style. Final Fantasy focuses on grandiose
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Lack of prettyness gives style.....Skies of Arcadia fits that description pretty well, if i think about that old Dreamcast game getting a remake with supergood graphics the only thing that comes to my mind is "Blegh!" XD
And Wii being the least expensive and easiest to make games for by far should draw lots of gameproducers to Wii. The gamecube was the other way around, the small disk they used for games in contrast to the big CD-rom like disks from Xbox and Ps2....thanks to that the developers had to spend more money for a Gamecube version of their game than for the other console version, and so Gamecube was neglected by lots of third-party developers. Nintendo has really learned from their past mistakes ^_^
--- Quote from: Takeru ¥amamoto on March 17 2007, 06:11 am ---Well I'm sure you've heard the news that Hironobu Sakaguchi, the mastermind behind the Final Fantasy series, is creating two RPG's for the 360: one is Blue Dragon, and the other is Lost Odyssey. Joining him is Nobuo Uematsu, who has composed music for the majority of Final Fantasy games. The 360 is gaining much popularity in that field, and Blue Dragon is a highly-rated masterpiece that has already helped to improve sales in Japan. Outside of those FF-esque adventures, there's also Eternal Sonata, Enchanted Arms, Spectral Force, and Phantasy Star Universe, which all have yet to be released (except Phantasy Star Universe, which is okay, but isn't too great).
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Yeah, i heard about that some time ago. Xbox drawing big Japanese RPG makers to them to increase their popularity in Japan.
random quote from a magazine:
Xbox 360 spokesman: We're gonna sell 10 times as much 360's in Japan as we did with the Xbox back then.
Random reporter: 10 times zero is still zero.
^ The reporter has a point there. Xbox sales were disaster in Japan.
and the PS3.....they made a lot of promises a few years ago but the PS3 is considered to be the big loser of the last E3 so they have to work extra hard to make up for that.
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