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Sakura's emotions
« on: September 20 2005, 11:38 am »
This is based on the anime. Sorry, but if I get my hands on the manga, I would tell you about that then.

You will have to see that my inferences are filled with bias.
So, if you have a different opinion, then you should post that here.
That is why I put an "a" there. If you have an inferfence b, then I will add that.

Anyways, SLi told me to get it directly from the show. Here it is.

Controversy is not a good reason for something to be bad.

The observations are all objective. The inferences may have bias in them.

Anyways, I just wanted to go over the show about Sakura's emotions.

Otherwise, don't ask me why I am doing this. I just want to XD.

Sakura emotions:

Episode 1:

1. Dream sequence: Sakura being uncertain

Inference 1a: Sakura is frightened by the uncertainty.

2. Sakura waking up: Sakura being tired

Inference 2a: Sakura is agitated from waking up.
Inference 3a: She is also uncharacteristically unenergetic.
Observation 1: Sakura is tired.

3. After the call from Fujitaka

Inference 4a: Sakura suddenly gets energy from nowhere

4. Downstairs

Observation 2: Sakura suddenly gets irritated from seeing Touya drinking coffee.
Inference 5a: It is only Touya, not the coffee.
Observation 3: Sakura gets an agitated face.
Inference 6a: Sakura regards Touya as a nuscence (spelling?).
Observation 4: Sakura gets angry.
Inference 7a: Sakura can get angry easily like that at Touya.

5. Fujitaka Arrives.

Observation 5: Sudden joy comes again.
Inference 8a: Sakura is afraid of showing this anger with any else present.
Observation 6: Sakura suddenly regards everyone well.
Inference 9a: Sakura's anger is short-lived.

6. Touya is about to leave.

Observation 6: Sakura hurries up to eat.
Inference 10a: Sakura gets worried when she rushes.
Inference 11a: Sakura's happiness dissates quickly when she hurries like that.

7. Sakura prepares to leave.

Observation 7: Sakura gets determined.
Inference 12a: Sakura gets unstoppable when she gets determined.

8. Sakura leaves.

Observation 8: Sakura worries.
Observation 9: Sakura suddenly feels peaceful with the sakura around.
Inference 13a: Worriedness dissaptes quickly with tranquility.
Theory 1 "Impulsiveness": Sakura's emotions are sudden, quick, and passionate.

9. Sakura catches up with Touya.

Observation 10: Sakura is calm.
Inference 14a: Sakura is not frustrated with Touya anymore.
Inference 15a: Sakura gets soothed by the idea that Yukito will be there too.
Inference 16a: As long as Sakura does not think about Touya, she is okay with Touya.
Observation 11: Sakura gets hopeful (for a short while until she see Yukito).
Inference 17a: Sakura gets filled with (short-lived) wonder to see Yukito.

10. They catch meet Yukito.

Observation 12: Sakura gets filled with tranquility.
Inference 18a: Sakura gets filled with tranquility when she sees Yukito.
Observation 13: Sakura suddenly uses great energy upon noticing Touya making a witty comment.
Inference 19a: Sakura's anger is sudden.
Observation 14: Sakura gets worried.
Inference 20a: Sakura gets worried about her appearance.
Inference 20aa: Sakura gets worried about her appearance in front of Yukito.

11. Sakura arrives.

Observation 15: Sakura's tranquility ends.
Inference 21a: Sakura's tranquility ends because Yukito is departing (or Sakura is staying, whatever you call it).
(Yukito tosses Sakura the candy)
Observation 16: Sakura gets filled with awe.
Observation 17: Five seconds later, Sakura gets filled with a weaker tranquility.

12. Tomoyo "arrives" (or "is already there").

Observation 18: Sakura gets filled with confusion.
Inference 22a: Sakura gets filled with confusion on the fact that Tomoyo "makes those comments."

13. Lockers/hallway

Observation 19: Sakura gets confused.
Inference 23a: Sakura gets confused because she did not know Tomoyo was talking about the candy.
Observation 20: Sakura gets nervous.
Inference 24a: Sakura gets nervous about anyone talking about her feelings about Yukito.
Observation 21: Sakura gets more confused. (after agreeing on Tomoyo's request)
Inference 25a: Sakura is passive.

14: Class

Observation 22: Sakura is distracted.
Inference 26a: Sakura is easily distracted.

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Re: Sakura's emotions
« Reply #1 on: September 20 2005, 11:39 am »
15. Cheerleading

Observation 23: Sakura is energetic at the time.
Observation 24: Sakura makes a stance.
Inference 27a: Sakura enjoys attention.

16. Cheerleading (batons)

Observation 25: Sakura is distracted.
Inference 28a: If Sakura is distracted, then she is clumsy.
Observation 26: Sakura feels at a loss when she is at a loss of dignity.
Theory 2: "Dignity": Sakura has a strong sense of dignity.

17. Home

Observation 27: Sakura sometimes talks to herself out loud.
Observation 28: Sakura feels uncertain.
Observation 29: Sakura feels frightened.
Inference 29a: Sakura feels frightened because she is uncertain.

First half over!

Words to describe Sakura this episode: Energetic, Passionate, Impulsive, Spontaneous, Determined, Passive

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Re: Sakura's emotions
« Reply #2 on: September 20 2005, 11:45 am »
For a better overall view on what CLAMP had in mind for Cardcaptor Sakura I would recommend picking up the first two issues of CLAMP no kiseki. That will set the record straight once and for all on what the series is all about.

That's my answer and I'm sticking to it no matter what anyone says :wink:

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Re: Sakura's emotions
« Reply #3 on: September 20 2005, 11:45 am »
I don't have to ask. it seems to me you are trying to stir things up.

As I've said before, I won't allow that.

These topics are pointless. You don't listen to anybody and seem set in your opinions.
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Re: Sakura's emotions
« Reply #4 on: September 20 2005, 12:00 pm »
Yeah, SLi is right. This topic is kinda pointless. I don't really get it... ehehe.
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Re: Sakura's emotions
« Reply #5 on: September 20 2005, 12:24 pm »
I don't have to ask. it seems to me you are trying to stir things up.

As I've said before, I won't allow that.

These topics are pointless. You don't listen to anybody and seem set in your opinions.

but SLi doesnt everyone in this forum have the right to post anything they want unless its offensive, but it's not offensive, he just has different opinion that everyone in the forum may not like, but dont we just need to respect it and just ignore it???

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Re: Sakura's emotions
« Reply #6 on: September 20 2005, 12:29 pm »
but SLi doesnt everyone in this forum have the right to post anything they want unless its offensive, but it's not offensive, he just has different opinion that everyone in the forum may not like, but dont we just need to respect it and just ignore it???

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Truth to be told...I have absolutely no respect for the person starting these threads!!!

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Re: Sakura's emotions
« Reply #7 on: September 20 2005, 12:31 pm »
The fact is, this poster has posted this stuff on other boards as well.

He doesn't listen to anyone else opinions and is locked in his own beliefs, which he tries to push onto everyone else.
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Re: Sakura's emotions
« Reply #8 on: September 20 2005, 01:08 pm »
hmm i see

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Re: Sakura's emotions
« Reply #9 on: September 21 2005, 01:36 am »
I've said it before aktorist, and I'll say it again. You have a horrible chip on your shoulder. I am not even going to comment on your post because obviously it is not worth commenting on. This forum is not just for the S&S relationship, it's to find friends in everybody else who comes here. If you continue to post like this it will not bring your point across, it will only make the people who come here resent you all the more.

I could understand if somebody said something offensive to you when you came here, but I've read all of your posts and the only offensive one is you. We didn't make you like this, you came like this and I'm sure I can speak for everyone when I say that we do not appreciate being treated like oblivious dolts. We are not going to even praise you for your knowledge, because it is pointless rubble. I've stated my point and I doubt that you'll even listen, but at least it gave me my peace of mind.

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Re: Sakura's emotions
« Reply #10 on: September 21 2005, 04:52 am »
Here's a little advice

My job has me going around reviewing anime, I look at everything, from the drawing's right down to the relationship, cinama *In the case of Appleseed* and even further

I can tell you right now that you HAVE NOT researched this series and as such you have NO RIGHT to dictate what the characters are feeling. Granted, we can often tell what they feel just by watching the series, but in a case of this post (where your pointing out every little thing) you need to do more research before anyone believe's you

I can tell you right now that your first post and 2nd are completely and utterly WRONG about Sakura and Syaoran, about there emotion's, feeling, whatabouts...

It sicken's me to see people who think they know everything... who think that no one else's opinion matters but there's

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Re: Sakura's emotions
« Reply #11 on: September 21 2005, 08:36 am »
At least the descriptions I gave Sakura are accurate, ね?

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« Reply #12 on: September 21 2005, 10:43 am »
*cough* Why are you doing this? Why do you analyze a show you resent that much? Why do you debate about a show that you dont like the outcomes of? If you dont like what happned, then dont talk about it, and forget it! Last time I checked, we were fans, not CLAMP representatives.
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« Reply #13 on: September 21 2005, 10:48 am »
At least the descriptions I gave Sakura are accurate, ね?

They are not accurate; they are resentful, and here's something to consider. We all create our own worlds and our own fantasies. What pertains to one person will not pertain to another. You view it as bad, while the rest of us decide to view the good of the show. Maybe I sound like a child, but if you can't say something nice, don't bother to even say it. Or in this case type it. You are not acting smart, you are acting like a smart a**.

*cough* Why are you doing this? Why do you analyze a show you resent that much? Why do you debate about a show that you dont like the outcomes of? If you dont like what happned, then dont talk about it, and forget it! Last time I checked, we were fans, not CLAMP representatives.

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Re: Sakura's emotions
« Reply #14 on: September 21 2005, 10:52 am »
"Energetic, Passionate, Impulsive, Spontaneous, Determined, Passive"

I am not saying that that is bad. I am saying that it is those traits that make Sakura, Sakura. It is the Sakura that Tomoyo and possibly Syaoran loves, right?
None of these traits are good or bad. It is just Sakura.

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« Reply #15 on: September 21 2005, 11:04 am »
Exactly! However, if it were Syaoran, if it were Eriol, they would be bad traits, right? Because you are an insolent person who cares about his/her OTP. Listen, dont tell us stuff, when you dont listen to us. You repeat the same questions, and you have proof, which is the manga and anime. Read/Watch them throughouly, and I dare you to ask these questions again.

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Re: Sakura's emotions
« Reply #16 on: September 21 2005, 11:29 am »
Actually, I never said that Syaoran's traits were bad. I dislike Eriol. That would probably the only character I dislike.

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« Reply #17 on: September 21 2005, 11:36 am »
Actually, I never said that Syaoran's traits were bad. I dislike Eriol. That would probably the only character I dislike.

You have a funny way of showing it.

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« Reply #18 on: September 21 2005, 11:38 am »
Really? For the past few days, all I've seen is how you repeadtly told us that Syaoran is impassive, grim, depressed, doesn't talk, isn't happy, doesn't really love Sakura, blah, blah. You've bashed every character except Sakura and Tomoyo, and you defend this pairing as well. I dont know why you come here and treat us like oblivious fools, since we didn't even bash your beloved OTP, in fact, it was hardly mentioned. So tell me, why are you so keen on talking about a pairing you obviously despise? Besides, we know what SAkura's emotions are anyway. We aren't idiots.
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Re: Sakura's emotions
« Reply #19 on: September 21 2005, 11:43 am »
Fisah is right. This is a TRC and CCS fan forum. How could we be fans if we don't know a very important part of series, their personalities? Why must you keep up the rude commenting if you know that objecting replies will come? You don't seem like a very good fan. This forum is for TRC and CCS fans! What are you doing here?
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« Reply #20 on: September 21 2005, 11:48 am »
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« Reply #21 on: September 21 2005, 11:51 am »
Fisah is right. This is a TRC and CCS fan forum. How could we be fans if we don't know a very important part of series, their personalities? Why must you keep up the rude commenting if you know that objecting replies will come? You don't seem like a very good fan. This forum is for TRC and CCS fans! What are you doing here?

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Re: Sakura's emotions
« Reply #22 on: September 21 2005, 11:54 am »
Thank you Moezy-chan, Fisah-chan, you two summed up what I was about to say nicely

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Energetic, Passionate, Impulsive, Spontaneous, Determined, Passive

Sakura IS Energetic, she's 10-11 year's old for christ sake! How can she NOT be?
Sakura IS Determined but she isn't passionate (at least not from what I've observed) she doesn't have powerful emotion's until later on into the serie's when Syaoran confesses his love (I still cry when I see that scene  :cry: )

Either way, if you don't like a show.. then please don't debate it..

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At least the descriptions I gave Sakura are accurate

No... the only one that was correct was the Energetic part... everything else wasn't, again

Keep in mind, if you hate this show so much, then your "Observations" cannot be trusted, they cannot be viewed as facts, and they cannot be taken lightly. From what I've already observed, this is a board full of CCS and TRC Fan's, coming here and spewing this stuff is just an invitation for trouble

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« Reply #23 on: September 21 2005, 11:56 am »
Yup, he should just stop trying to change our opinion on S+S. I stick to my beliefs.
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« Reply #24 on: September 21 2005, 12:00 pm »
Me too. I love CCS and TRC no matter what he says. Yes, there are some problems, but if you hate it so much, I suggest you stay away from it, that's the best advice I can give you, since I'm not the creator, and my opinions are based on the canon proof I saw on the show/manga, and if canon isn't good enough for you, then maybe you need to complain to CLAMP.

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« Reply #25 on: September 21 2005, 12:38 pm »
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Re: Sakura's emotions
« Reply #26 on: September 22 2005, 02:51 am »
Extremely Off-Topic: *reads almost the whole thread* Yuki has *no* idea what's going on!  I don't understand the first two posts, but I don't see how they are disses, either.. (But I think someone said this guy was dissing characters in another thread, is that why everyone is mad?) Ohh, I don't know, I don't wanna get involved! >_< *runs away to read KuroFai fanfiction*
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Re: Sakura's emotions
« Reply #27 on: September 22 2005, 02:54 am »
aktorist, what is your point of this thread?

i believe fans who have saw the anime, knew what was going on in the anime.. unless you are typing for the benefits of a person who does not know how to differentiate emotions?


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Re: Sakura's emotions
« Reply #28 on: September 22 2005, 03:24 am »
With all due respect to everyone else, I must say that I kindly suggest someone lock this thread... I forsee a lench mob being made by CCS/TRC fan's  :keke:

Either way, this kid hasn't provided any proof what-so-ever to back up his "claims" not a video, not a screen shot, not a drawing, nothing.. which is why I can't believe him at all

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Re: Sakura's emotions
« Reply #29 on: September 22 2005, 06:17 am »
I would like to say, "Why does Sakura love Syaoran?"
I guess many people would say that he changed. NOT REALLY
Sakura just relies on Tomoyo for her emotions, Tomoyo told her that she loved Syoaran. So, Sakura thinks that she loves Syaoran.
Since when did I say that those qualities are bad?
All of Sakura's emotions are strong. Also, she does things on whim.
Again, I never said that anything is bad. Let us actually discuss this meaningfully.

And I never said that I disliked CCS, right?
CCS is just one of the tragedy genre, like many other series.
« Last Edit: September 22 2005, 06:32 am by aktorist »

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Re: Sakura's emotions
« Reply #30 on: September 22 2005, 06:37 am »
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