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Title: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Kyle Rondart on June 21 2005, 11:21 am
There's a Syaoran with Fei Wong Reed. What's up with that.
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Sakaki on June 21 2005, 12:10 pm
No one knows for sure about that yet.
He could be a clone or Syaoran in the past or a different Syaoran entirely.

* Also, this could really be a big spoiler to some.
It would be better to put this into a spoiler tag or something.
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Goshi on June 22 2005, 12:09 am
SPOILER *theory* BELOW

 I'd like to think, since this is bound to be such a happy smiley show, that this Shaoran is some sort of weird tortured one, who never got to meet Sakura. Blah blah blah he's all crazy and out to kill everyone "cause his life has been hard" - However when he actually DOES meet Sakura he's like "wow...she was nice" and then there's bound to be a situation where the 2nd Sharon needs to die or atleast dissapear to save Sakura...either way it's gonna be fun watching them meet up ^^
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Brad on June 22 2005, 12:29 am
Wouldn't it be a twist if he actually wasn't a saoran!  :keke: But yeah, looks like he is one.

I'm guessing there'll be a twist that will let Sakura remember Saoran and forget the other one... or something. I wonder if there's another Sakura??? That would be interesting... DARK SAKURA!  :angry:
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: .::ka::. on June 22 2005, 01:37 am
Sakura Drak version huh? Lol, sound interesting :D
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Cherry tiger on June 22 2005, 01:44 am
Ho-hum... I'm not gonna speculate too much on it. I'll let CLAMP reveal it in due time...  :confused:

Besides, doesn't the Syaoran that's with Fei Wong Reed look much younger than Syaoran? Just a thought...
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Bao_Nhia_Yang on June 22 2005, 05:52 am
that's what i saw also.. the one that fei wong whoever person has seems to be younger..
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Sya0ran on June 22 2005, 07:12 am
I just had a thought...well...what if the Syaoran with Fei Wong was Syaoran when he was younger.  You know, the part of him he lost since remember that the Syaoran we have now who is traveling with Fai, Kurogane, Mokona and Sakura had lost all memories of his past when before he was 7 or 8.  Maybe the Syaoran with Fei Wong was the split personality of our Syaoran now...like Haru from Fruits Basket.  lmfao  Just my random rambling.  Hm...I'mma stop dwelling into this too much now.   :heh:
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Okamirei on June 22 2005, 10:29 am
I just had a thought...well...what if the Syaoran with Fei Wong was Syaoran when he was younger. You know, the part of him he lost since remember that the Syaoran we have now who is traveling with Fai, Kurogane, Mokona and Sakura had lost all memories of his past when before he was 7 or 8.

 :keke: I think that way too. I mean, in vol 8,
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he had a nightmare where he "woke up" in the middle of nowhere, his head was bandadged, and his clothes were the exact same as the ones the other Syaoran wears..[/spoile]..I guess he was brainwashed? Maybe Fei wong put a curse on his right eye...like Pegasus' eye from yu-gi-oh...that's why it's bandadged?  :sweatdrop:
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: scarecrow_wingz on June 22 2005, 03:30 pm
I just had a thought...well...what if the Syaoran with Fei Wong was Syaoran when he was younger. You know, the part of him he lost since remember that the Syaoran we have now who is traveling with Fai, Kurogane, Mokona and Sakura had lost all memories of his past when before he was 7 or 8. Maybe the Syaoran with Fei Wong was the split personality of our Syaoran now...like Haru from Fruits Basket. lmfao Just my random rambling. Hm...I'mma stop dwelling into this too much now. :heh:

yeah i agree with you the most.  fei wong probably placed syaoran in that country deliberately as a plan to obtain the power to cross dimensions
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Sakaki on June 22 2005, 03:48 pm
***I think that way too. I mean, in vol 8,
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he had a nightmare where he "woke up" in the middle of nowhere, his head was bandadged, and his clothes were the exact same as the ones the other Syaoran wears..[/spoile]..I guess he was brainwashed? Maybe Fei wong put a curse on his right eye...like Pegasus' eye from yu-gi-oh...that's why it's bandadged?***

Except that in that scene it isn't his right eye, it's his left.
If you look closely in book 8 when it shows him wandering, it's his LEFT eye that is covered.

But when it shows Syaoran early in the series saying how he doesn't remember his past and it shows him huddled down before Fujitaka finds him and adopts him, his right eye is covered.

So, either he isn't remembering his own memories or he is seeing a "mirror" image of himself.

The Syaoran that Fei Wong has has his left eye covered.
The opposite of Syaoran.
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Sya0ran on June 22 2005, 04:01 pm
Good point, I figured that out too.  Its either the Syaoran with Fei Wong was a pathetic excuse for a clone or it probably is another half of Syaoran he lost.  Mhm...the minds that CLAMP has works in mysterious ways.   :heh:
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Sakaki on June 22 2005, 04:10 pm
***Good point, I figured that out too.  Its either the Syaoran with Fei Wong was a pathetic excuse for a clone or it probably is another half of Syaoran he lost.  Mhm...the minds that CLAMP has works in mysterious ways.***

Or it's Syaoran's "twin".
Like a mirror image of Syaoran.
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Sya0ran on June 22 2005, 04:15 pm
Wow...when I read that sentence of yours I immediately felt the feeling of de ja vu.  o_O;  Yeah, anyway...true true.  Syaoran's twin...how is it possible though since the Syaoran with Fei Wong (man...I'mma just call him Syaoran #2 since I'm tired of writing out "Fei Wong's Syaoran..XD) looks a few years younger than the Syaoran we have now (Syaoran #1...the real one with Saku etc..x.x;).  Mhm...maybe time is stopped around where Fei Wong lives or something insane like that.  Hmm.. :sweatdrop:
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Sakaki on June 22 2005, 04:32 pm
***how is it possible though since the Syaoran with Fei Wong (man...I'mma just call him Syaoran #2 since I'm tired of writing out "Fei Wong's Syaoran..XD) looks a few years younger than the Syaoran we have now (Syaoran #1...the real one with Saku etc..x.x;).***

Or perhaps time flows slower.
Maybe Syaoran 2 doesn't age. He's suspened in that thing, maybe that keeps him suspended in time, so to speak and he stays the same until ready to be used for whatever evil purpose?
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Sya0ran on June 22 2005, 08:49 pm
Yes, I thought about that too.  Oh yeah, I just re-read some recent TRC chapters and chapter 65...

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Isn't that when Syaoran #2 makes Syaoran #1 move.  Syaoran's hands move on its own and he wonders about it.  Before that though, we see a split image of Syaoran #1 and #2 moving at the same time  so this proves that somehow they're connected...

Hm...I wonder.  Ugh..CLAMP. You're good, very good!   ><;  XP   :sweatdrop:
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: .::ka::. on June 23 2005, 12:34 am
Syaoran#1 doesn't want to hurt Kurogane that time, but then Syaoran#2 control him....
uhm.... it makes me feel that Syaoran#2 is a evil one, something has happened before he lost memory ....
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Brad on June 23 2005, 12:36 pm
What if Saoran #2 is the Saoran from CCS!!!  :) Wong could have kidnapped him to use against the Tsubasa #1!
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Okamirei on June 23 2005, 12:45 pm
Ah, I remember I had this picture in my album..
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/okamirei/73.jpg

mirror image...right?
But wasn't there something wrong with Syaoran's reflection in mirrors? like in volume 9...
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when his eye started to hurt again, he looked into the mirror and his reflection was...strange. it was as if it was weathered away..
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: lika-chi on June 23 2005, 01:06 pm
o.O o dear.. this is an interesting topic. and i just ruined myself. *drops dead.. i have read further than volume 3!! AH!!!!!

for people who don't know the spoiler tags.. it's [ spoiler] (text) [/spoiler] but without the space between the [ and s..
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Sakaki on June 23 2005, 01:53 pm
*SPOILERS!*

Yeah, Syaoran 1 (our real Syaoran) threw Kurogane off while they were fighting.
That was due to Syaoran 2 controlling him.
But was Syaoran 2 trying to hurt Kurogane or was he trying to protect his "other" self?
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Sya0ran on June 23 2005, 01:56 pm
That makes me wonder too and since we didn't totally see Syaoran #2's expression while he did it.  Syaoran #2 is either a villain or one of the good guys.  Maybe Fei Wong told him to do that because he's got some evil plot up his sleeve.  @.@;  Man, I should investigate this further... :tongue3:  XD
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: PhoenixStar on June 23 2005, 02:36 pm
wow! Ok, im in the americas, and weve only gotten to vol.5! Is there somewhere on this site where you can view the next volumes? I highly doubt that someone took the time to scan that all out, but its worth a guess. Over here, there hasnt been a definite proposal that the dark character is syaoran. We have to assume for now.
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: jovi206 on June 26 2005, 04:52 pm
i like the theory where syaoran #2 is the one that syaoran #1 can't remember when he was a child. there also seems to be a freaky connection between the two maybe one is a part of the other?
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Mina on June 28 2005, 12:24 pm
I've been thinking about this every since I read chapter 63. And here's my theory, it's probably silly but...
(if my spoiler tags do not work, please forgive me...)

Spoiler Ahead! (incase I mess up the tags)

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Like some people said earlier in the thread, I think Syaoran #2 (the one in container) is the mission memory of Syaoran #1 (the one searching Sakura's feathers). Syaoran  #1 is blind in the right eye, correct? Syaoran #2, on the other hand, does not seem to be blind on the right eye. Instead, Syaoran #2's left eye is always shown. Also, Syaoran #2 seem to stay at the age when Syaoran #1 lost his memory. So my theory is that Syaoran #2 is whatever Syaoran #1 lost when he was young. Rather, instead of just losing it, I think the bad guy (sorry, I can't remember his name... the one related to Clow Reed) took it from Syaoran #1 in order to create Syaoran #2, and use the two Syaorans to get Sakura's powers.

Someone probably said the similar thing, but I wasn't quite sure, so if someone already did write what I wrote, sorry ^_^;
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: scarecrow_wingz on June 28 2005, 06:07 pm
wow! Ok, im in the americas, and weve only gotten to vol.5! Is there somewhere on this site where you can view the next volumes? I highly doubt that someone took the time to scan that all out, but its worth a guess. Over here, there hasnt been a definite proposal that the dark character is syaoran. We have to assume for now.

if u check in the "where to find scanlations" thread...there'll be plenty of sites repeated over and over to help you
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: xx_chibirosie_xx on June 29 2005, 08:36 am
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haha this reminds me of Kingdom Hearts 2...where theres a guy that 'look slike' Sora, but tis not...@.@
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Little Star on June 30 2005, 04:06 am
Ohh I didn't have a idea about this...is very interesting, the image is beautiful and this topic about the Syaoran2 is intriguer... where I obtain the chaptitre 69??
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Goshi on June 30 2005, 07:53 pm
haha this reminds me of Kingdom Hearts 2...where theres a guy that 'look slike' Sora, but tis not...@.@
no dont! I haven't played it yet r know much about it! >< argGHGHGH
run away!
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: xx_chibirosie_xx on July 01 2005, 04:30 am
no dont! I haven't played it yet r know much about it! >< argGHGHGH
run away!

lol I'm sorry...I knew I should have put on a spoiler tag on it...sorry...:sweatdrop:
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Goshi on July 02 2005, 03:01 am
hehe.. dont worry I was just exagerating...I used to frequent kingdomhearts2.net

so I already know far toooo much >_<
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: xx_chibirosie_xx on July 02 2005, 08:05 am
lol ok then
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Alexiel on July 09 2005, 06:08 am
You know, there was a rumor going around about this situation...

the two Syaoran's we've seen so far are connected. Syaoran1 has no past while we see Syaoran2 in his childhood age. both have a blind eye. Think of them as opposites. one is an teen form while the other is as a child, both have opposite blind eyes, one is concious, the other isnt.... err, you get the drift. ^^

about that scene with Syaoran fighting Kurogane, i wanted to say, if anyone remember what Fei Wong had said about a :certain: person needed for him to obtain the power to cross dimensions, wouldnt that sentence explain why Syaoran2 had made Syaoran1 move to get him away to keep him alive? and maybe it works the same way, if one disappears, the other does too

i take a bet that you guys have no idea what i just said... lol ;D
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Ruby Chan on July 09 2005, 06:11 am
That kinda confused me. But I'm just gonna say...I think they're the same person, but in diff time flows.
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Sakaki on July 09 2005, 06:46 am
***wouldnt that sentence explain why Syaoran2 had made Syaoran1 move to get him away to keep him alive? and maybe it works the same way, if one disappears, the other does too***

This part makes sense to me.
I think maybe, yes, Fei Reed does need Syaoran.
Or maybe too, since Syaoran 2 has a link to our Syaoran 1 he would've tried to protect him out of instinct.
But why all the sudden?
If Syaoran 2 has been floating in the tube for so long, why just now is Syaoran 1 sensing him?
Perhaps Syaoran 2 is waking up?
Maybe at some point Syaoran 1 will have to remerge with Syaoran 2 and he'll finally understand what happened to him?
Or maybe he'll have to defeat him and never know.
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Alexiel on July 10 2005, 12:40 am
that would be because Yuuko disrupted Fei Wong's ability to watch over them when they were in that place with Yasha and Ashura (forgot the name ^^") when they fell into Ashura's territory. so he uses Syaoran2 as another way of interaction. remember, he also said they needed them alove in order for his goal to be achieved as well (dont ask which chapter. i dont remember lol)
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Mina on July 10 2005, 01:08 am
Angelic-Essence, I think we have pretty much same idea about the two Syaorans.... if not same, at least close anyway  :tongue:

You know, thinking about Fei Wong Reed and his secret plans makes me feel really sad for Sakura and Syaoran.... especially Syaoran. Fei Wong Reed messed up their lives way too much... I think if it wasn't for Fei Wong Reed, Sakura wouldn't have lost her feathers.. The wall (that had wing design on it in the chamber below the ruins) starting to absorb Sakura was trap made by Fei Wong Reed, right? Or did I assume that wrong?  :sweatdrop:
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Alexiel on July 10 2005, 01:43 am
i dont believe it was a trap. i think its something more like a vault to what Fei Wong Reed wanted and Sakura was teh key to obtaining that power. I dont know. its just a speculation
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Hira on July 17 2005, 05:36 am
I doubt that Fei Wong did all those.  I think he expected these things to happen, and from the way I see it, all he has done is just watching the two by sending this weird waiter guy to spy on them.
Also, it seems that there is not much he can do to mess up their lives, as it would seem that Yuuko has so much more influence over that.  He was quite surprised by the fact that Yuuko has the ability to twist and alter the events in time and space, so she has been "meddling" around with stuff to frustrate Fei Wong quite a bit.

Angelic- Essence's idea can be explained in this matter written below, I think...

That vault was made by an ancient group who lived well before the establishment of Clow, and Sakura just so happens to have a link to that forgotten past that is now calling out to her.  Sakura's mysterious inborn powers is ancient and potentially dangerous.  Maybe that's why that vault has been sealed, like a demon that has been asleep for ages, and now, seeing the light of day again, it wakes up, and then...
(GASPS)
What is that aura?  It feels so familiar.  So comforting.  I must get more of it!!
The energy sealed in the vault and the power Sakura possesses are like magnets, and when one magnetic force is exposed to another, BAM!  They stick together unless someone meddles with it and rips them apart, except that, this time, the piece "someone else" grabbed ahold of is now less than a piece.

Why is it calling her now of all the time in the world?  I think that since Syaoran has been digging that place for so long, the energy from the vault itself has been released into the atmosphere, so neither is it a trap, nor is there anything anyone can do.  So if anyone should blame for Sakura's fate, it would have to be Syaoran's mindless snooping and tempering with things he has no idea of. 
The only fault Fei Wong is in is creating Syaoran in the first place and dump him on the street helpless and vulnerable
Again, also a speculation
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Pikari on July 17 2005, 11:07 am
I doubt that Fei Wong did all those. I think he expected these things to happen, and from the way I see it, all he has done is just watching the two by sending this weird waiter guy to spy on them.

Waiter guy? Are you talking about the guy from Jade country? Or the mysterious shadow in chapter 69? Anyone have speculations as to who that is? Supposedly, its someone they've met before. Hmm...

(sorry, getting off-topic) -_-;
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Sakaki on July 17 2005, 04:21 pm
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Or the mysterious shadow in chapter 69? Anyone have speculations as to who that is? Supposedly, its someone they've met before. Hmm...

Yeah, I'm going crazy wondering who that is too.
I don't think they've told yet have they?

Also, the fact that Yuuko had their clothes.
She must have taken them for a reason, just to sell them back to them.  :lol:
I assume it was dangerous that they left them, because another Fai, Kurogane, Syaoran or Sakura could have taken them, wore them, and perhaps tricked them?
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Alexiel on July 17 2005, 09:29 pm
Why is it calling her now of all the time in the world? I think that since Syaoran has been digging that place for so long, the energy from the vault itself has been released into the atmosphere, so neither is it a trap, nor is there anything anyone can do. So if anyone should blame for Sakura's fate, it would have to be Syaoran's mindless snooping and tempering with things he has no idea of.
The only fault Fei Wong is in is creating Syaoran in the first place and dump him on the street helpless and vulnerable
Again, also a speculation

I'm sorry, I didn't quite understand that last part in Syaoran's case. Are you trying to day that he also happens to have a past connection to Sakura's power? Lol, forgive me if I misunderstood. ^____^"

And yes Pikari, I believe Hira was referring to that dude from Jade. ^____^
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Hira on July 17 2005, 10:24 pm
No, I'm sorry that I wasn't clear  :heh:
The energy that was trapped in the vault in which I believe has connections to Sakura's power was just simply exposed and released when Syaoran digs an opening at the archaeological site.  The energy comes out the moment Syaoran exposes the vault, so even though it was purely unintentional, Syaoran opened the Padora's Box
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Alexiel on July 17 2005, 10:35 pm
OH!!! Hey, I like that theory! It actually sounds reasonable from the other forum i went to. Lol.

Huh, it kinda seems like blame on Syaoran for some reason... lol, an accidental one anyway. ^_^;;

 It would've been interesting if Syaoran had a connection to that past... OH maybe he does in some way (both Syaoran's i mean) O.O maybe Im getting ahead of myself in random thoughts XD but then i consider what those symbols on the the second Syaoran.... hmm.... *in deep thought*
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: sofiacardcaptors on July 18 2005, 05:49 am
i realize about a person -that is hide in a place with the guy that is always watching to shaoran and sakura's actions o.ó-

I don't remenber the name >-<  a image: http://petit-otaku.net/sakuranohikaru/imarara.gif

they have a person hide o_o and that person is like shaoran with tattoo like in this image: http://petit-otaku.net/sakuranohikaru/shaoran.bmp
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Alexiel on July 18 2005, 07:41 am
umm... not sure what you;re trying to say or ask. lol :sweatdrop:
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Pikari on July 18 2005, 08:33 am
i realize about a person -that is hide in a place with the guy that is always watching to shaoran and sakura's actions o.ó-

I don't remenber the name >-< a image: http://petit-otaku.net/sakuranohikaru/imarara.gif

they have a person hide o_o and that person is like shaoran with tattoo like in this image: http://petit-otaku.net/sakuranohikaru/shaoran.bmp

The two bad guys are named Fei Wong Reed and Xing Huo. The person with the tattoos is definitely another Syaoran, and we're still trying to guess what his purpose might be. That's what this topic is about.  ^^;;

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Yeah, I'm going crazy wondering who that is too.
I don't think they've told yet have they?
Nope, no sign of him yet. I have a feeling it'll be someone we'll least expect. Like.... Shougo or Oruha. I don't know.. I wish CLAMP would hurry up and give us a hint!
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Hira on July 20 2005, 01:14 am
I think it might be Dr. Kyle...
He was after Sakura's feather at the beginning, and I don't think he clearly mentioned that he's going to use it to cure children... He just says it's very powerful.
Another thing... So he was smashed by giant boulders, but that doesn't mean he is crushed to death... Maybe he's like Yuuto, who liquefies himself and escapes through the flood.  (Whoever is going to spy on Syaoran looks kind of mushy and bonelss.)
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Sakaki on July 20 2005, 06:22 am
It drives me crazy that Kyle Sensei looks SO MUCH like Watanuki.
That's always been really strange to me.
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Kitsune-chan on July 20 2005, 09:41 am
aha, I haven't posted for so long...I sorta died  :sweatdrop:

What really makes me wonder about Syaoran was what happened in volume 9. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/spiritkoumorichu/nani.jpg Was there something wrong with his reflection?
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Blaze on July 20 2005, 11:30 am
i never reas vol 9 i only read up to vol 5
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Mina on July 20 2005, 12:00 pm
aha, I haven't posted for so long...I sorta died :sweatdrop:

What really makes me wonder about Syaoran was what happened in volume 9. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/spiritkoumorichu/nani.jpg Was there something wrong with his reflection?

I've been wondering about that as well.... what was wrong with the reflection?
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Okamirei on July 20 2005, 12:04 pm
It was like that in his dream too...in vol 8, ne? It's sort of...torn away?
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Alexiel on July 20 2005, 03:49 pm
oh yeah... that had me wondering too... but i jus shrugged it off. lol if this happened AFTER piffle i mightve understood. lol. but wait, you notice a weird image in the mirror dont u? or is it jus me?
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Hira on July 22 2005, 02:29 am
Syaoran's looking at his reflection with his RIGHT EYE
He's supposed to be blind on the right eye, which signifies that the other Syaoran is waking up very, very soon... I can't wait.
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Alexiel on July 22 2005, 02:45 am
Okay.... ya lost me. o.O Lol. I think its just me being dense. my bad. XD

I think he was just wondering where the pain in his eye was coming from. But then again, I dont think that would link to why he was staring weirdly at his reflection. O.O
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: cardcaptor519 on July 31 2005, 03:53 pm
i think its an evil clone of syaoran that will be used later on to hurt syaoran and/or sakura and to take sakura's powers/feathers...what do you think?
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: suu_no_clover on August 04 2005, 06:35 am
omg, i'm so excited *bouncy bouncy* and cardcaptor519 - you're stating the fairly obvious.
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Monse-chan on August 17 2005, 11:32 am
In my humble opinion, I think that Syaoran 1 has the left eye while Syaoran two has the right eye, that was taken from Syaoran 1 and then he was dumped in the streets, were he was found and adopted by Fujitaka.
The bad guy could have used the eye on another Syaoran he created from the ADN from the eye he took from Syaoran 1 and keep him to use him as a weapon to get Sakura's power afterwards.
It seems that in the mirror image, Syaoran is half looking what he is really looking and in another half what Syaoran 2 was loking....
I think I just confused myself.....hehe
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Goshi on August 17 2005, 07:59 pm
Initially in the series they focused on the idea of "alternate reality versions"
you know...
Like when Touya was a king in clow country but just a humble cook in another?

They never went into explaining why none of these worlds contain alternate versions of Sakura and Shaoran...
I like to think that eventually they will run into an alternate version of a less main charcter (perhaps Kurogan of Fye), and then this will lead onto meeting the other Shaoron...

It is just a question of how they are both different then?
might he be maniacal?
might he be selfish?
or is he just gonna go around drowning kittens? oO
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Kitsune-chan on September 11 2005, 03:13 pm
now that there's that scene in chapitre 91, what do you all think will happen? o.O
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Post by: xOLight_AngelOx on September 11 2005, 03:28 pm
after i saw this pic i such a shiver, when i get shivers i think something bad is going to happen (i know it sounds stupid)

here is the pic: http://photobucket.com/albums/a237/chibi_angel_/?action=view&current=ch69.jpg
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Post by: Emperor Shaoran on September 13 2005, 08:11 am
Oh God, I'm gonna have to obtain vol. 7 to whatever vol that is recently published in Japan when I get the money! I'm over excited at all these theories and want to know more!
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Post by: Rika Iiyumi on October 19 2005, 12:23 pm
uuuugh it takes FOREVER for Del Rey to publish
lol i think that the 'syaoran got put in Clow on purpose' theory is best
and the pics are really scary!!!!!  :cry:
waaaa CLAMP can be so cruel sometimes
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Post by: Samantha-chan on November 07 2005, 10:46 pm
imo syaoran#2 is syaoran from another world
u see, we have another touya n yukito in another world, rite?
so maybe syaoran#2 is syaoran from that world and everthing in that world are the opposite of other worlds?
i know it seems complicated
i have a hunch that maybe this syaoran#2 you know, are enemies with sakura
hehe i know it sounds bad
but hey, he's the opposite
see that his left eye is blind and syaoran#1 right eye is blind?
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Post by: Rika Iiyumi on November 11 2005, 01:29 pm
wait.... i think i read somewhere that the fei wong reed dude made the evil syaoran thing.......something like that anyway  :sweatdrop:
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Post by: Miss Jenni-Maie on November 11 2005, 04:19 pm
I put my theory in fanfiction mode :tongue3:
It's got holes in it, but oh well! :tongue3:
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2528251/1/
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Post by: Fye-chan on November 16 2005, 03:33 am
I had read a theory which I think is very interesting: It says that the other Syaoran maybe could be Sakuras personifyed memories of Syaoran...
But somehow I think it's very ...hmmm... What do you think?!
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Post by: babypigggy on November 22 2005, 09:28 am
maybe hes evil!
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Post by: ungalad on November 27 2005, 02:01 pm
It drives me crazy that Kyle Sensei looks SO MUCH like Watanuki.
That's always been really strange to me.

YEAH! Same here. When I first watch the Jade Country arc in the anime (I watch it before I read the manga) I thought "Hey! Super cool! Isn't this guy Yuuko's worker?"... Later on I thought it couldn't have been him 'cause he was suppossed to be a good boy in XXXHolic XD. And then I finally re-watched or read and realized Watanuki and Kyle are two completely different people. Or so it seems *misterious look*.
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Post by: Fye-chan on November 28 2005, 04:09 am
Really??? 0.o
Sry but I cannot see that!
Anyway... I don't think the other one is evil...I think It'll be like:
Evil Syao: Why do you let me behind??? *angry look*
and after that they will fight together...or against each other...^__^"
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Post by: danibananinha700 on November 30 2005, 03:26 am
about the 2º syaoran, i think he has memories about syaoran's past, because syaoran don´t remember his past behind fujitaka find he....*thinking*....now the 2º is slepping and syaoran isn't see with the right eye, and when the 2º wake up, syaoran will can see and remember his past, and maybe, i supost, he will have the power of time, because in pictures he has a staff that look like anithing about time  :tongue3: :tongue3: :tongue3:; and that things are in the base of that capsue where is the syaoran 2º.
i think is that and anithing more, but i don't know write what i wanna say  :dodge:
If you want i write after that in portuguese and someone tranlate  :heh:
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Post by: ~Bloody_Rose~ on December 04 2005, 06:30 pm
Syaoran's looking at his reflection with his RIGHT EYE
He's supposed to be blind on the right eye, which signifies that the other Syaoran is waking up very, very soon... I can't wait.

He's not looking at his reflection with his right eye.. try doing the same thing that syaoran does and you will know that syaoran-kun is looking at the mirror with his left eye.
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Post by: ishiyaki on January 04 2006, 10:12 am
two syaoran...very interesting... :okay:
, the bad shaoran, who tryed to kill shaoran in his dream, maybe is a second personality or a hidden aspect of our hero...no!!shaoran is a good guy! :greengrin:
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Post by: Fye-chan on January 08 2006, 10:18 am
Hyuuu how scaring to imagine that Syaoran has also a dark side in him... *shiver*
Strange to imagine that one day Sakura comes over to him and says "Protect me please" and Syaoran " Nope...Don't want to..."
*more shiver*
Noooooo please Syaoran don't show us your dark side...even it could be fun...ô.o
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Post by: ~Bloody_Rose~ on January 08 2006, 01:44 pm
Gee! I juz imagined what you have said Fye-chan! and it's really scary for sakura.. i can see the shock in her eyes hearing that! Oh! and what a cute Avatar & siggie you got there! i love it! Arcueid Brunestud
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Post by: Fye-chan on January 09 2006, 11:06 pm
Oh! and what a cute Avatar & siggie you got there! i love it! Arcueid Brunestud
Thank you! ^^

Yeah she would be really shocked...
Wouldn't she be such nice she would punch him and say: What???
And Syaoran would say: No... Nothing! Let's search your feathers...*shiver*
Sakura: Good boy!
XDDD
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Post by: Minoushka on January 11 2006, 08:24 pm
lool your theories are interesting! XD I think tha Shaolan 2° is good like our Shaolan, for the simple and good reason which people do not change their hearts even if we find them in various worlds. But  these two mysterious persons...(the man and the girl) did something to Shaolan °2, I'm sure ><"" I don't want that he become evil ;__; when he will be  released from this influence he will help Sakura! è_é (Sakura must not fall in love with him too XD)
Anyway we cannot guess yet what it will occur, can be that with more informations...^_~
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Post by: ~Bloody_Rose~ on January 13 2006, 09:34 pm
I don't want that he become evil ;__; when he will be released from this influence he will help Sakura! è_é (Sakura must not fall in love with him too XD)
Anyway we cannot guess yet what it will occur, can be that with more informations...^_~

OMG!!! Sakura MUST not fall in love with Syaoran#2!!! Knowing Syao#1, He won't mind Sakura falling in love with Syao#2 coz this will make her happy and we all know that syao#1 will do anything to make Sakura happy! NO!!!
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: itsafactiact on January 15 2006, 02:39 pm
hmm just a thought but you know how the dark syaoran is a mirror image of our beloved syaoran, maybe its just that. Maybe its like a good and evil thing like yin and yang a dark side and a light side. I'm thinking that maybe the reason why syaoran can't remember before he was adopted was because that was his bad side. So he was i guess seperated one good and one evil....just a theory but you never know.... :shifty:
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: Hack on February 07 2006, 02:08 pm

Except that in that scene it isn't his right eye, it's his left.
If you look closely in book 8 when it shows him wandering, it's his LEFT eye that is covered.

actually...i think he was looking at the mirror or it could his right...like my right and your right??you know how it's opposite??
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Post by: bie liao on February 07 2006, 02:19 pm
Nope, when you look straight at him and he's leaning against that wall, the cloth is covering his left eye.
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Post by: Hack on February 07 2006, 02:58 pm
oh....that was a WALL....hehe
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Post by: Rika Iiyumi on May 12 2006, 01:25 pm
um yea regarding the more recent chapitres...
!!!Yin-Syao-chan has awoken!!!
I wonder if Yin-Syaoran has the same thoughts as Yang-Syaoran, and he knows what's going on with Yang-Syaoran.....sorta like Doumeki and Watanuki in xxxHOLiC, but just all the time..

any theories on what is most important to Yin-Syaoran??  :lol:
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Post by: Tenkuuken on May 12 2006, 01:35 pm
um yea regarding the more recent chapitres...
!!!Yin-Syao-chan has awoken!!!
I wonder if Yin-Syaoran has the same thoughts as Yang-Syaoran, and he knows what's going on with Yang-Syaoran.....sorta like Doumeki and Watanuki in xxxHOLiC, but just all the time..

any theories on what is most important to Yin-Syaoran??  :lol:

I say it's to find the other Syaoran so he could:
1. merge with him,
2. kill him, or
3. play as the wild card in this story.... I guess.
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Post by: Hack on May 12 2006, 01:41 pm
I say it's to find the other Syaoran so he could:
1. merge with him,
2. kill him, or
3. play as the wild card in this story.... I guess.
numbro 2 is the most possiblity :tongue:
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Post by: Rika Iiyumi on May 12 2006, 01:42 pm
but that would mean that his price to yuuko would be syaoran...T_T we wouldn't want that happening now would we!
of course, that is assuming Yin-Syaoran's price for dimension-jumping will be the same as our protagonists ^^
after all, they had to hand over their most important things for a price...

actually...yuuko said taht their price TOGETHER would be just enough to cover the price, so since Yin-Syaoran is all by himself...the price will be more...?
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Post by: kirbycat89 on May 21 2006, 05:13 am
About the whole mirror thing....
Show content
My clever friend told me this and I was shocked because it might actually be true.
In book 9 Syaoran looks at his reflection and as some of you stated, the reflection looked weird. That's because his eye is a mirror!
Have you ever tried to face 2 mirrors directly across from each other,  and stood in the middle? You end up seeing multiples of yourself just like, if you looked closely, Syaoran did in book 9. That was why he was freaking out. That's why it is believed that Syoaran's eye tends to look lighter than the other sometimes in the book. Because his eye is reflecting the light or something like that. O_O
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Post by: ishiyaki on May 24 2006, 01:32 am
About the whole mirror thing....
Show content
My clever friend told me this and I was shocked because it might actually be true.
In book 9 Syaoran looks at his reflection and as some of you stated, the reflection looked weird. That's because his eye is a mirror!
Have you ever tried to face 2 mirrors directly across from each other,  and stood in the middle? You end up seeing multiples of yourself just like, if you looked closely, Syaoran did in book 9. That was why he was freaking out. That's why it is believed that Syoaran's eye tends to look lighter than the other sometimes in the book. Because his eye is reflecting the light or something like that. O_O
gosh...congratulations to you and your friend!! I didn't realized about that fact!
Tell him from my part that he/she is very clever!
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Post by: Ashlee on May 24 2006, 01:32 am
About the whole mirror thing....
Show content
My clever friend told me this and I was shocked because it might actually be true.
In book 9 Syaoran looks at his reflection and as some of you stated, the reflection looked weird. That's because his eye is a mirror!
Have you ever tried to face 2 mirrors directly across from each other,  and stood in the middle? You end up seeing multiples of yourself just like, if you looked closely, Syaoran did in book 9. That was why he was freaking out. That's why it is believed that Syoaran's eye tends to look lighter than the other sometimes in the book. Because his eye is reflecting the light or something like that. O_O
I never did think of that
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Post by: ishiyaki on May 24 2006, 09:49 am
I say it's to find the other Syaoran so he could:
1. merge with him,
2. kill him, or
3. play as the wild card in this story.... I guess.
I think that Syao is doing the "dirty work" and Dark syaoran is waiting to remove him his eye.
Dark syao is a syao's reflection cause they're opposite
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Post by: Koushiro on July 13 2006, 11:34 pm
gosh...congratulations to you and your friend!! I didn't realized about that fact!
Tell him from my part that he/she is very clever!
Cool! I didn't quite understand that part either! Thanks for clearing it up!
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Post by: sam mogford on March 27 2007, 04:14 pm
thats a good point
hi im sam
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Post by: Tenkuuken on April 26 2007, 01:59 pm
Seem like C!Syao is making a comeback anytime soon, with Sakura in the tube and all.
Title: Re: What's Up With the Two Syaorans?
Post by: RenaRyuugu on January 13 2008, 12:22 pm
I say it's to find the other Syaoran so he could:
1. merge with him,
2. kill him, or
3. play as the wild card in this story.... I guess.

Im going with 2

DOWN WITH CLONES! =X
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Post by: Tenkuuken on January 13 2008, 08:49 pm
^ Actually, that's exactly what's happening to the two Syaorans as of late. O_O
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Post by: Smile_For_Me on March 25 2008, 01:52 pm
Hey, I found a CCS Episode with Two Syaorans. LOL

CardCaptor Sakura Epidode 55, Sakura in Wonderland
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Post by: Tenkuuken on June 11 2008, 01:33 am
So Syaoran isn't even Syaoran to begin with, though he's our Little Wolf's son. Now what?
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Post by: Keichii on November 04 2008, 12:53 pm
Etoo... It says so in the manga that ....... well.. try to read it.. I don't want to be a spoiler..
demo, the OVA says it all aswell... .. about the two Syaorans..