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CLAMP's Famous Works => Cardcaptor Sakura => Topic started by: scarecrow_wingz on April 25 2005, 03:43 pm
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i was just curious... i was watching the first movie again yesterday :heh: and when yelan kissed sakura goodbye syaoran was really shocked and sakura blushed
i'm wondering about syaoran's reaction to her kiss, sakura was embarassed surely... any ideas anyone?
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Who honestly knows what he was thinking,
how about:
what the hell is she thinking?
or maybe
what the hell was that about?
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I think Syaoran was shocked because his mother is really hard on him, but seemed to accept Sakura right away...perhaps he was jealous?
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Never thought of that, Interesting :D
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I agree with Ruby Chan. Syaoran was shocked to see that his mother liked Sakura right away while she treated him so "unlovingly" :lol: :sweatdrop:
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I agree with Ruby Chan. Syaoran was shocked to see that his mother liked Sakura right away while she treated him so "unlovingly" :lol: :sweatdrop:
loll, poor Shaoran>.<
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hmm that's really interesting...yeah - maybe not jealous but shocked at the nice treatment
very good, thanks guys ^^
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or maybe something else...? *hint hint*
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i'm not getting the hint here... ><
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I think Yelan did that to her cuz she somehow knows that she's meant to be with Syaoran...(well that's my theory ^^;) I can't really explain but something like that ^^; (or maybe i read to many fanfics :sweatdrop: )
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thats very likey.
Knowing her, she may of forseen that those two will fall in love
(but honestly, who really knows - expect the ladies of clamp :D)
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Yeah, but you never know with Yelan...you get the impression that she can be very manipulative...perhaps, realising that Sakura would get the Clow Cards in the end instead of Li, she wanted to have an ally in the new Card Mistress?
Just guessing....
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i think another reaction was.....well, you know....Li's sisters are that crazy, glomping Sakura like that....then his mother, whom he always thought of as very.....solemn.....suddenly Kisses Sakura like that. You're sisters are another thing, but you're solemn mother?
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A theory of mine, is that the kiss was kind of a thank you to Sakura for making sure that Syaoran is safe
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Hmmm...*wheels turning*
Maybe...even though a lot of the time, Syaoran is the one protecting Sakura. If the kiss was a thankyou, it was probably more likely to be thanking Sakura for restoring Syaoran's emotions to him...you know, breaking through his cold shell?
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they haven't gotten up to the 'breaking out of shell' thing yet have they? in the series that is...
yeah, i'm thinking yelan saw that sakura would be the one to get the cards...and kissed her for good luck??
or is it that sakura is so kawaii she coudln't help herself?
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hmm.... i never thought about it. my best friend and i just thought syaoran's reaction was priceless. there's always the guess that she just wanted to see syaoran's reaction, but i don't really think that's it. though, i'd just love to see syaoran's reaction if he was a real human, or maybe not since anime and reality don't exactly look the same.
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My take on this is the same as Ruby Chan's. Syaoran's just probably shocked and became a bit jealous because of the nice treatment Sakura's getting.
As for the kiss, I've always believed that Yelan knew already what was coming for the couple so maybe she thought that a kiss would give a good impression on her would-be daughter-in-law. :D
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I always assumed that Yelan knew what was going to come for Sakura and Syaoran....
So yeah, probably a thank-you for making Syaoran a relatively "normal" guy.....
Meh, I guess we'll never know.
[plans to interigate CLAMP ladies]
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interrogate...
please do ^^
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i agree on the shocked syaoran thing. but i dont think she can see into that uch of the future and see sakura as her future daughter-in-law. lol. i think its more likely that she felt a the power in sakura. and that she had more potential and the power was stringer than syaoran's. so yelan predicted that sakura would overcome her rivla/love and become mistress of the cards. and well, it seems her prediction is true ^^
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I think Yelan has foresight ^_^
I love the character of Yelan. I think Syaoran was probably jealous that his mother was being so nice to Sakura when she's so cold and distant to him. As for why Yelan did it, I always thought that she knew that one day, Sakura would be her daughter-in-law and gave her a kiss to seal the deal. So one day, when Sakura's given the clan some heirs and Syaoran's teaching them the way of being a Li, and Sakura and Yelan are watching, it'll give Sakura a chance to turn to her and ask...
"Did you know all along?"
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I got a question about Yelan!! How old is she & how old are her daughters?
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Umm..the daughter are about 16 - 20?I think, anyway.....
And Sakura commented on how young Yelan seemed...so maybe she's about 35-40? Judging from the daughters ages, though.
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I'd say that would be about right, I wonder if the answer is around?
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I don't know about Yelan's age or anything, but for the thing about the kiss, I always thought it was kind of like a greeting, like she kissed Sakura as a sign that she's welcomed in her home or something. And I agree that Shaoran was probably shocked that she treated Sakura so kindly, but I don't think it's just because Yelan treats Shaoran kind of coldy. I also think it has to do with the fact that Shaoran at this point still thinks of Sakura as someone with weaker magical powers as he hasn't quite yet realized his feelings for her, so he was also probably surprised Yelan would show respect to someone he thought was weak.
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Yeah that version of things is highly reasonable , a good theory.
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He's probably accustomed to her slapping people or something like that.
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Slapping people? I don't think so, somehow...Yelan seems to be a very serene person.
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A theory of mine, is that the kiss was kind of a thank you to Sakura for making sure that Syaoran is safe
thats a really nice way of thinking about it. ^.^ not only that, but I believe that perhaps as other people have said, his mother shows affection in a way perhaps he had not seen from her before, maybe he is mad that his mother does what he wants to do? lol
I think that Syaoran's mother is thankful to Sakura for making Syaoran see that there is more to life than respect and catching cards, I think its a way of thanking Sakura for showing him love <3
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i thinks shaoran was shocked because his mother is like.. smart.. and .. serious... and i suppost she doesn't have any kind of reaction like this with him.. o.o although... he grew up in a female family o.รณ
the kiss was with good intention n.n
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Yeah, I agree with you, he's shocked ^^, I loved this scene but about movie and Ieran, I whished see more about Li and his family
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You know how they say that boys look like their mothers and daughters look like their fathers.. well, then, how come Syaoran doesn't really have any likeness to his mother? Touya has dark hair, like his mother did. Sakura has her light honey hair, similar to her dad's. Apparently, Syaoran's father had a brownish-honey colored hair because look at all his sisters! But.. I'm just wondering about him. I guess I'm just odd like that.. c_c;
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I guess he took after his father...probably personality wise too, since he's not as calm or serene as Yelan.
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Yeah, probably. Him and all his sisters. :sweatdrop:
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Syaoran resembles all his sisters, and I've always imagined Daddy Li to have a sort of auburn colour hair... Cause Syaoran's hair is aulburn (dark) and his sisters have a simular hair colour to Sakura, so that makes sense. Anyway, I agree that Syaoran probably got his personality from his father... But then again, where the hell did Xiefa, Feimei, Fuutie and Fanran get their personality from??? I kind of always wondered if Syaoran misses having a male role model or maybe he was very close with his father... So that's what made him so stubborn, his father's death.
When you consider that Wei, Syaoran's carer, is the only one whose shown him friendship... I think it's natural to look shocked to see his own mother kissing Sakura... Whom she's only known for 18 hours... lol! I don't think that Yelan shows Syaoran coldness, as she seems to feel her son's aura and things. I think she's just hard on him as he will be the Li Clan Leader one day and he has a lot to deal with.
I also think the kiss is Yelan's affection to Sakura as some one who will be her daughter-in-law one day. *fingers crossed*
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Thats a nice way to think about it and I agree. ^_^
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Thank you, I'm glad you agree.
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There is one thing I've noticed in the series. I believe that during the time that Mizuki-sensei came was when Syaoran started to like Sakura, but he was confused between her and Yukito-san. But after seeing Yelan kiss Sakura, his feelings started to deepen. The snow card was right after the first movie, and even though Yukito-san gave her the watch, he offered to help her find it.
I think that by Yelan kissing Sakura, it showed that he was allowed to love her. I honestly believe that Yelan was the person who helped Syaoran with his feelings more than any other person on the show, even if they didn't dwell on it.
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^WOW!! I never even though about that before, and it makes perfect sense.
She showed that there is something special about Sakura w/ that kiss. That she already has a bond with her in such a short time. When syaoran sees that his opinion of sakura must have changed. If even his calm and emotionless mother likes her, there really is something about her.
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And that's why I like this movie so much. I've read from other people that this movie is a waste of time and that it's pointless to watch, but I don't think that Syaoran would have turned out the way he was if it weren't for his mother. I think that the first movie is essential, and it also helped Sakura mature in her magic and her attitude!
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Maybe's Syaoran's just...embarassed.
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And that's why I like this movie so much. I've read from other people that this movie is a waste of time and that it's pointless to watch, but I don't think that Syaoran would have turned out the way he was if it weren't for his mother. I think that the first movie is essential, and it also helped Sakura mature in her magic and her attitude!
Yeah, the movie did help a lot of the characters develop character. I loved how Sakura slept over at Syaoran's house and mingled with his family. ^^
As for Yelan kissing Sakura... What you gotta remember is how quickly Toya figured out Syaoran was gonna end up with Sakura. He figured that out even before Sakura OR Syaoran realized they liked each other. So, I think it's possible that Yelan already knew Sakura and her son's future together. She definatley has a good sense of what's happening around her. So, the kiss was a kiss of acceptance. You could also see Sakura's sweetness getting through to her the night before when Yelan told her fortune. I think Sakura quickly grew on her. Perhaps Yelan saw a little of herself in Sakura's innocence?
Syaoran's reaction was, as all of you guys have already said, simply shock. His cold mother suddenly warming up to his rival. That would be pretty weird, ne?
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The mother's name was Yelan? I didn't even know that. Man am I behind. I thought that scene was funny. I didn't really get why he was blushing so much ^^
But you have a good point hypercrabby.
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People just call her Yelan, I don't know why... But her real name's Ieran.
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One word: Translation
/besides Yelan is much better then Ieran (yuck!)
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Those are seriously good points! I agree with Hypercrabby, I think his mother knew that they'd end up together. I mean, obviously from Syaoran's reaction she doesn't warm up to people so quickly, and so there must be a reason. Either she really liked Sakura or she accepted her as a future daughter or both. I'm thinking both.
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Those are seriously good points! I agree with Hypercrabby, I think his mother knew that they'd end up together. I mean, obviously from Syaoran's reaction she doesn't warm up to people so quickly, and so there must be a reason. Either she really liked Sakura or she accepted her as a future daughter or both. I'm thinking both.
Yep I'm thinking the same thing.
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I have a theory, and anybody is welcome to disagree, but I think Yelan knew about Sakura and Syaoran even before the Clow Book was opened! For all we know, she worked with Clow, or Eriol-kun, in order for this to happen! Ooh, idea for a CCS fanfic is starting to come!
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I have a theory, and anybody is welcome to disagree, but I think Yelan knew about Sakura and Syaoran even before the Clow Book was opened! For all we know, she worked with Clow, or Eriol-kun, in order for this to happen! Ooh, idea for a CCS fanfic is starting to come!
That's actually quite possible moezy-chan!
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Yep I'm thinking the same thing.
Thanks you guys! ^^
As for moezy-chan's theory, that is very likley. Then again, we just don't know! If only Yelan had been in the series...then maybe we would know how powerful she really was. Hmm...perhaps she was told someday she would have a son that would be destined to fall in love with the mistress of clow.
Wow! A Yelan fanfic sounds like a good idea. It makes me wanna know how involved Syaoran's father was with his future.
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Thanks you guys! ^^
As for moezy-chan's theory, that is very likley. Then again, we just don't know! If only Yelan had been in the series...then maybe we would know how powerful she really was. Hmm...perhaps she was told someday she would have a son that would be destined to fall in love with the mistress of clow.
Wow! A Yelan fanfic sounds like a good idea. It makes me wanna know how involved Syaoran's father was with his future.
Arigatou minna-san! That means alot. And yes, I would have liked to see more of Yelan in the series. She truly is a unique and wonderful character and it's no doubt that she is extremely powerful. She could certainly break that barrier, and it's no wonder that Syaoran became strong. As for my fanfic, expect it by Spring Break. Translation: March 13th. During that week, I'll be able to work on my fanfic. I'm just too busy to do it now. Be sure to remind me do it though! I might forget!
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Arigatou minna-san! That means alot. And yes, I would have liked to see more of Yelan in the series. She truly is a unique and wonderful character and it's no doubt that she is extremely powerful. She could certainly break that barrier, and it's no wonder that Syaoran became strong. As for my fanfic, expect it by Spring Break. Translation: March 13th. During that week, I'll be able to work on my fanfic. I'm just too busy to do it now. Be sure to remind me do it though! I might forget!
That sounds great! I can't wait to read it.
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Me either! I've always wondered, did they ever say what happened to his father? I've read stories that say he left them, he died, he works a lot, blah blah blah you can't trust them.
I've always wondered about Yelan and her life BEFORE Sakura, her relationship with her kids and her dead/gone/whatever husband. I think a story is a GREAT idea.
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Oo you guys could create a story on her whole past life! That would be really cool!
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I look forward to reading that story! ^-^ All I know is that Syaoran's father had messy brown hair which was passed down to his son. >.>
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well he kinda had to, unless there are strange genetics...Syaoran looks nothing like Yelan...really...I don't think...
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I agree bie liao! I don't think he looks like his mother at all.
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More like his father. Syaoran just has his mother's eyes.
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I agree as well. Not even the sisters look like the mother! If you ask me, and I know this is creepy, but his sisters look like Sakura! Don't you think?! With the hair and the eyes! That's the first thing I thought when I saw them!
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Personally, the sisters seem to have blue eyes so I'm taking a guess the father has blue eyes. >.>
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I thought they had green eyes, but I could be wrong. Some of them had light brown eyes I noticed.
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syaron :
wat i did wrong
she double crosser
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http://perso.wanadoo.fr/saffie/movie1caps/054.jpg
Not sure if this is good...
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http://perso.wanadoo.fr/saffie/movie1caps/054.jpg
Not sure if this is good...
That's perfect, thank you! I was almost sure that some of them had green eyes! It shows that only one sister had blue, and one had brown.
Back on topic, it makes me wonder what Yelan is capable of as far as magic goes. She is powerful, we know that, but how much of that power does she have, and furthermore, will Syaoran be as magically powerful as her?! That would be so awesome if he did!
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I have a weird idea of the father has eyes that change colors in certain conditions.
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Quite possible. I have a professor whose eyes change from blue to brown. I've seen them blue one day, and brown the next!
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I agree as well. Not even the sisters look like the mother! If you ask me, and I know this is creepy, but his sisters look like Sakura! Don't you think?! With the hair and the eyes! That's the first thing I thought when I saw them!
They do look like Sakura! They don't look much like their mother either.
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SO...i'm just curios...how did Syoran's dad look or nobody knows?
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hm...Yelan looks nothing like ANY of her children then. So her husband MUST have the brown hair and green/blue/brown eyes.
What color are Yelans eyes?
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http://perso.wanadoo.fr/saffie/movie1caps/071.jpg
Her eyes are blue. I dunno...Sakura's hair seems to be more of a paler brown than the sister's. Their hair is kinda orange colored, don't you think? Maybe Syaoran's hair is darker because his mother's is so dark. Some people start out with brown hair as kids and then it turns more dark, almost black.
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http://perso.wanadoo.fr/saffie/movie1caps/071.jpg
Her eyes are blue. I dunno...Sakura's hair seems to be more of a paler brown than the sister's. Their hair is kinda orange colored, don't you think? Maybe Syaoran's hair is darker because his mother's is so dark. Some people start out with brown hair as kids and then it turns more dark, almost black.
That could be true. I think that's strange that all of the family members don't seem to have the same hair colors.
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Another theory:
Maybe that spot of black hair Syaoran has on the back of his head is from Yelan...
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Another theory:
Maybe that spot of black hair Syaoran has on the back of his head is from Yelan...
He has a spot of black hair? LOL. Omg I didn't even notice that. No wait.. maybe I did.
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well i agree... that yelan had always had her visions and foreseen syaoran and sakura being together later on. and syaoran was shocked that his mother kissed a merely stranger she just met.
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well i agree... that yelan had always had her visions and foreseen syaoran and sakura being together later on. and syaoran was shocked that his mother kissed a merely stranger she just met.
Yeah I think it has to do with that too.
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SO...i'm just curios...how did Syoran's dad look or nobody knows?
I've always imagined an older looking Syaoran with blue eyes and his hair tied back in a long ponytail like Clow Reed's...but otherwise identical.
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I thought a scruffy kinda guy who has glasses and always looks flustered...I dont know why...I'll bet Yelan would disapprove of him...
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I thought a scruffy kinda guy who has glasses and always looks flustered...I dont know why...I'll bet Yelan would disapprove of him...
But consider this; if Syaoran's dad was someone Yelan would disapprove of, then he certainly wouldn't be married to her. After all, they are expecting Syaoran to carry on the family name, and to bring honor to his family, and how can he do that if his father is not powerful? I always pictured Syaoran's dad to be a tall man with a strong athletic build, and a very demanding presence about him. Also, he has to have magic, or how else could Syaoran be so strong at such a young age?
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But consider this; if Syaoran's dad was someone Yelan would disapprove of, then he certainly wouldn't be married to her. After all, they are expecting Syaoran to carry on the family name, and to bring honor to his family, and how can he do that if his father is not powerful? I always pictured Syaoran's dad to be a tall man with a strong athletic build, and a very demanding presence about him. Also, he has to have magic, or how else could Syaoran be so strong at such a young age?
That is a very good point, but she might have married him if he had a strong magical power, she seems that she would give almost anything for powerful magic for her children etc... The other ideas of Syaoran's father fit in with his family well...I really have no idea what he might be like any more :P lol
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I came across some interesting facts, recently. You know how each character has an image album?
Well, Syaoran's includes a track with Sakura and him chatting. In one point in the conversation, they get on the subject of their parents. From here on I'll quote. Forgive me if my translating is a bit off:
Sakura: So what about your parents?
Syaoran: I used to see my dad a lot when I was young, but...
Sakura: I'd love to meet your dad!
Syaoran: My dad...died when I was a small boy.
Sakura: I'm sorry.
Syaoran: It's ok.
Sakura: I'm really sorry, but I guess we're the same...
Syaoran: About what?
Sakura: Apparently I used to see my mom a lot, but she died when I was so young I don't really know.
Syaoran: So that's how it is...
Sakura: But! But! We have a lot of pictures of her! Do you too, Li-Kun?
Syaoran: Nope!
Sakura: Howcome?
Syaoran: Well, because of various things...
Sakura: Hooeee?
So, something happened that made Syaoran never get to see pics of his dad. I don't know if that means Yelan was bitter toward him or what, but something went on.
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Hmm... Guess we just have our imagination. ^^ I always imagined the dad with eyes that change blue/brown/green on some cirumstances, messy brown hair and he wears glasses when he read books. Like Hatori from Furuba! ^^;;
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I came across some interesting facts, recently. You know how each character has an image album?
Well, Syaoran's includes a track with Sakura and him chatting. In one point in the conversation, they get on the subject of their parents. From here on I'll quote. Forgive me if my translating is a bit off:
Sakura: So what about your parents?
Syaoran: I used to see my dad a lot when I was young, but...
Sakura: I'd love to meet your dad!
Syaoran: My dad...died when I was a small boy.
Sakura: I'm sorry.
Syaoran: It's ok.
Sakura: I'm really sorry, but I guess we're the same...
Syaoran: About what?
Sakura: Apparently I used to see my mom a lot, but she died when I was so young I don't really know.
Syaoran: So that's how it is...
Sakura: But! But! We have a lot of pictures of her! Do you too, Li-Kun?
Syaoran: Nope!
Sakura: Howcome?
Syaoran: Well, because of various things...
Sakura: Hooeee?
So, something happened that made Syaoran never get to see pics of his dad. I don't know if that means Yelan was bitter toward him or what, but something went on.
Thats so very helpful, Hypercrabby! Now at least we know he's dead, though I figured that all along, and we know that Syaoran isn't exactly bitter, is he? I mean, I haven't heard it so I can't tell about his tone or anything, but it doesn't sound bitter.
And Yelan doesn't exactly seem like the kind of woman who'd hold grudges; but maybe thats just me. She always seemed to exhume that whole 'I'm too far above that kind of thing' air.
Once again, maybe its just me...^ ^;;
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Well...this was early in the series, I presume. When Sakura and Syaoran are chatting earlier, Syaoran is very short and rude with her. Saying things like, "Let's just get on with this homework" -_-
Anyways, he sounds more relaxed later. When he refuses to say why there are no pictures, he regains his bitter tone. I imagine it's too embarressing for him to talk about, but who knows. You really gotta hear it to know how he sounds. That's my point of view, though.
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hmm... that's a intresting question... never thought of it before... but in my opinian, i think syaoran is quite shocked because he knows his mother as a strict person and she just easily accepted sakura...(maybe sakura is much more sweeter than syaoran and show more emotions... *giggles)
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well, maybe syaoran's dad didnt like to take photos or blushes madly in front of cameras or something like that .... :heh: but its such a pity that syaoran lost his dad in such an early age T.T~ demo look at the good side, syaoran needs not to worry when he introduces sakura to his family especially OKAH- SAMA ;D since she knew that she'll make a great daughter in law~ *hahas*
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I had an idea his father had past on, because I do recall him saying that, and until now I didn't know where he said it. Thx
HyperCrabby
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Everytime I think about it, it links back to Fujitaka 'cause it reminds me of Syaoran in TRC. It's really hard to imagine, Sakura's dad really looks like Shaoran (Kinda...) at least for their hair. It's brown and the two of them love archeology.
Shaoran gave a big applause for Sakura's dad when he explains about pyramids. That means he really have intrest on them.
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I came across some interesting facts, recently. You know how each character has an image album?
Well, Syaoran's includes a track with Sakura and him chatting. In one point in the conversation, they get on the subject of their parents. From here on I'll quote. Forgive me if my translating is a bit off:
Sakura: So what about your parents?
Syaoran: I used to see my dad a lot when I was young, but...
Sakura: I'd love to meet your dad!
Syaoran: My dad...died when I was a small boy.
Sakura: I'm sorry.
Syaoran: It's ok.
Sakura: I'm really sorry, but I guess we're the same...
Syaoran: About what?
Sakura: Apparently I used to see my mom a lot, but she died when I was so young I don't really know.
Syaoran: So that's how it is...
Sakura: But! But! We have a lot of pictures of her! Do you too, Li-Kun?
Syaoran: Nope!
Sakura: Howcome?
Syaoran: Well, because of various things...
Sakura: Hooeee?
So, something happened that made Syaoran never get to see pics of his dad. I don't know if that means Yelan was bitter toward him or what, but something went on.
i know this is late...but where is this character album?? where can I find it?? and where/when is that conversation between sakura and syaoran??