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Title: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on December 14 2006, 12:12 am
since the last one "mysteriously" dissapeared  :shifty:

remember, use this thread to discuss spoilers of upcomming chapters rather then crowd up the regular chapter disscusions.
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: ishiyaki on December 14 2006, 01:10 am
EEEHH??? :surprised:

God, SailorYue, are you allowed to create this kind of topic?

I thank you it, I hope nobody erase the board again.

Ready for 138's spoilers??? :heh:
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on December 14 2006, 02:26 am
yes im quite curious for spoilers. how long till the chapter comes ut anyways?
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Touei on December 14 2006, 02:59 am
yes im quite curious for spoilers. how long till the chapter comes ut anyways?
Two weeks from today.
I'm guessing we'll get spoilers in about.. 10/11 days..
..things might get a bit messed up 'cause of the holidays though..
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: envyofthestage on December 22 2006, 07:32 am
The last thread was deleted? Why?
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Emiko on December 23 2006, 02:59 am
http://su-chan.livejournal.com/115366.html#cutid1

138 spoilers!! Splash page sounds so hot~
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Snow-chan on December 23 2006, 04:33 am
*can't wait for the splash image* Nice Christmas present from CLAMP! :)
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: aqiaqua on December 23 2006, 07:41 am
Yaaay! *spins* Can't wait for splash either! Good things happen after breaks!
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: ishiyaki on December 23 2006, 09:26 am
http://su-chan.livejournal.com/115366.html#cutid1

138 spoilers!! Splash page sounds so hot~

great!!! some news!!
about spoiler, I'm willing to see Sakura's dream and the "one cutting" X(
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: mizunotsubasa on December 28 2006, 01:02 am
I just saw the chapter and my mouth dropped its sooooo good. I just love the splash page.
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: .KuroxFye. on December 28 2006, 01:52 am
It feels like it's been an eternity since the last chapter. I'm so happy that this one'll be viewable soon.
The spoilers sound... intresting, but the splash page sounds hot xD
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: dark_persian on December 28 2006, 02:35 am
Apparently, the splash page isn't of Fai licking some random person's bleeding fingers after all - it's Sakura hugging Fai... Or so I've been told.

If that's right, it means that the finger licking will be done in the chapter itself!
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Snow-chan on December 28 2006, 03:19 am
Apparently, the splash page isn't of Fai licking some random person's bleeding fingers after all - it's Sakura hugging Fai... Or so I've been told.

If that's right, it means that the finger licking will be done in the chapter itself!

Even better!  :D
*is counting down the hours until the chapter* It has been too long without one.
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: ishiyaki on January 23 2007, 01:03 am
spoilers for chapter 141!!!!
http://su-chan.livejournal.com/120040.html#cutid1
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Tsu-girl on January 23 2007, 08:28 pm
Sakura was hestitating because of Fai...? And she wanted to show her feelings risking their lives? She didn't hestitate to 'give power' to Real Syaoran... And Fai kisses her hand again? I don't like it...
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: kuma on January 24 2007, 04:53 am
there's a view for ch141 splash page at community.livejournal.com/kuroxfai
it's hot
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Tatasenko on January 24 2007, 08:19 am
i saw it too,but bizarrely the post where the scan has been posted has been deleted on the livejournal without any reason!
i wanted to post the link but i found out that the splash page was nowhere to be seen anymore,i hope that this is just a temporary issue  :sweatdrop:...

anyhow the chapter will be availabled tomorrow,so this is just a short waiting fot those who haven't had the luck to fall upon the picture when it was still working  :wink:

but if you want to know how was the image,i can just tell you that Kurogane and Fai were not hugging or kissing each other,but at least they were very close  :keke: :
Fai was sitting on a window and Kurogane was standing up in front of him,with his head turning towards us.
the size of the scan was small so i couldn't really see the expression of their faces,but Fai seemed to be nonchalant and laid-back,while Kurogane showed an attitude more careful...and even rather protector  :okay:
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Tatasenko on January 25 2007, 03:05 am
good news,i have finally found again the scan of the splashpage showing Kurogane and Fai which had curiously disappeared...peharps that Kurogane tried to hide it from everyone because his posture with Fai was kinda compromising  :wink:

http://i1.tinypic.com/330yzuu.jpg

Kurogane really looks like a bodyguard,with such a glance nobody could approach Fai  :sweatdrop:

the picture is small but this is really useless to complain because in less than one hour the chapter 141 will be availabled with huge scans thanks to Ladydarkmoon  :okay:
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: kuma on February 05 2007, 01:59 pm
the spoiler for chapter 142 now available at su_chan's livejournal
now we know what sakura wants
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Mina on February 06 2007, 03:33 am
the spoiler for chapter 142 now available at su_chan's livejournal
now we know what sakura wants

Thanks!
*goes to read it, comes back*

omg... I shouldn't have read that... I shouldn't have read that.....
(big spoiler for chapt. 142)
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The other reward for winning the tournament is the power to cross the world my oneself! Omg, Sakura, are you serious? Are you going to leave the gang to go after C!Syaoran?? I'll get mad at you if you do that T_T
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Tsu-girl on February 06 2007, 08:57 am
Yeah, You're right, shouldn't have read that T-T

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Well, that is really something... Hmm, maybe Sakura would have some kind of control - where she wants to move - unlike the moving with Mokona and that's why she wants this power...

And I really don't care if she leaves or not.. Depends on what she will do next, with this power. If she doesn't give it to Yuuko, to help that people, then she is really an egoist. I understand that she loves Syaoran and she would do everything for him, but after the guys told her, that they would help her she is really unfair to them...

And again so cold for Real Syaoran...

Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: kuma on February 07 2007, 03:36 pm
ahaha
sorry bout that, should'v put warning or something
[apiler]if sakura did manage to travel by herself then it will leave only three of them.
no flower in the group it must be gloomy
but can eagle do that ?
i mean to give the ability to travel between worlds
i thought only yuuko can do that[/apoiler]
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: ishiyaki on February 07 2007, 08:41 pm
Sakura= the Godfather XDD

Poor R!Syaoran...agian...I never hated her, but now I do! I hope she had a good reason for treat him in that way!
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Crystall on February 07 2007, 10:09 pm
O M G !!!!  :surprised: i can't believe it! she can't do that!!!  :angry: hopefully, if not fai, then at least syaoran and kuropon will stop her...  :(  :shock:
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Snow-chan on February 11 2007, 05:21 am
Chapter 143 spoilers
http://www.tsubasachronicle.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4183

....
so that is what she is about!  :surprised: Though I should have thought of it earlier since that device has been used quite a lot. Well, I knew there must  be a reason for Sakura to be so unlike Sakura.
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Tsu-girl on February 11 2007, 05:41 am
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Even so... I have X in my mind. "Their destiny was foreordained"... Still Kotori said there is still hope... What if the things Sakura saw was Fei Wang's projection...? Grrr... At least she begins to act normal...

And I'm afraid that this history will end soon :(

Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: ishiyaki on February 12 2007, 12:42 am
OMG, what spopilers!!

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Sakura must have seen important events in her vision to do all this...despite she isn't so egoistic as we could think, she keeps being the "Ice Lady" with Syaoran,...what does mean "you're freely..."?
Freely to do what???
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Tsu-girl on February 12 2007, 04:08 am
OMG, what spopilers!!

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Sakura must have seen important events in her vision to do all this...despite she isn't so egoistic as we could think, she keeps being the "Ice Lady" with Syaoran,...what does mean "you're freely..."?
Freely to do what???

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Hmmm, Ice Lady? No, not when she speaks to him...
Maybe she wants to telm him, that he is free, that he shouldn;t think of himself as a substitute, that he doesn't need to be near her to protect her (hmmm, maybe she saw his death protecting her from Clone Syaoran's attacks...? or something like that)... Everything is possible...
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: ishiyaki on February 13 2007, 09:17 am
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Hmmm, Ice Lady? No, not when she speaks to him...
Maybe she wants to telm him, that he is free, that he shouldn;t think of himself as a substitute, that he doesn't need to be near her to protect her (hmmm, maybe she saw his death protecting her from Clone Syaoran's attacks...? or something like that)... Everything is possible...

agghh!!!!
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RealSyaoran dead??!!!! I don't know what Sakura did see but I hope it wasn't so creepy! extrange theory, but we can't do predictions about Clamp's stories...
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sokasato on February 15 2007, 05:50 am
Well, now that I know Sakura does not want to leave the group for her own selfish needs, i kinda like her a little better now. Can't wait for the scans!!
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on February 15 2007, 09:12 am
ok we need the scans, were are the scans, I read the spoilers but the scans........... chapter 143 :heh: :cry:
Were are the chapter scans!!!!!!!!!

Well I think I have to wait for them tomorrow  :cry:
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: ishiyaki on February 15 2007, 09:15 am
ok we need the scans, were are the scans, I read the spoilers but the scans........... chapter 143 :heh: :cry:
Were is the chapter scans!!!!!!!!!
don't worry, it will be soon...I'm bitting my nails and now my fingers...XD
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on February 20 2007, 09:07 am
Good news.... spoilers of chapter 144
Thanks Su_chan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this is the link, for me this chapter sounds informative and interesting, I don't know what did anyone thinks about it.

http://www.tsubasachronicle.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4256
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on February 20 2007, 10:55 am
now THAT sounds like a good chapter!
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on February 25 2007, 11:40 am
Ok is chapter 145, the link to the spoiler, written by Su_chan http://su-chan.livejournal.com/128834.html

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Ok 12 pages of figting and mor expalanation of sakura wish and all the prices she have to pay to go to the world of her foresight............. I think is a little slow.
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on February 25 2007, 12:15 pm
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she will pay with her luck

thats .... interesting.......and...confusing.....
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: ishiyaki on February 27 2007, 07:51 pm
that sounds terrible...
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Post by: ~Emethyst~ on February 27 2007, 09:16 pm
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... Nyah... It really is possible for Sakura to trade her good luck in her deal with Yuuko. The dimesional witch may give it to Himawari at some cost(?).. or maybe it's because of Watanuki.... :/... I'm somewhat confused.....

I just hope the next chapter's intriguing enough to spend our time on.... *sigh*
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Post by: Meowzy on February 28 2007, 03:47 am
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Wouldn't it be better to give that luck to Himawari? I've missed quite a few XXXholic chapters, but from what I can remember... Himawari brings people bad luck, or something?
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on March 01 2007, 04:05 pm
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Wouldn't it be better to give that luck to Himawari? I've missed quite a few XXXholic chapters, but from what I can remember... Himawari brings people bad luck, or something?
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yes. she's a major jinx, she caused watanuki to fall out a 2nd story window (unintentionaly of course) she now has a little birdie that hatced from HALF of the egg that sakura retrieved. it is  a good luck birdy and is unaffected by her curse (im not sure if its supoosed to protect others too... i think it was stated tht its alot like doumeki...
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Post by: Ahrimal on March 01 2007, 04:58 pm
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I'm uneasy this choice of Sakura's is only going to end badly. Without that eternal good luck protecting her, that belief that everything will turn out well in the end, it could take quite an unfortunate turn. Attempting to alter the foreseen future? Yes, so it was in Tokyo Babylon, RG Veda, and X/1999. The harder one tries to fight fate, the tighter the strings wind all about and the faster one accelerates towards the tragic cycle of destiny. Clamp-tachi did say it would have a happy ending, though it would be hard-fought. Still, I think it would somehow be more fitting if the ending was a tragic one, like RG Veda for Yasha and Ashura or Tokyo Babylon for Subaru. How much harder it's going to become for Sakura remains to be seen. Perhaps this Sakura will endure as much suffering as Subaru or Kamui? The CCS Sakura would never have suffered so, given the lighter atmosphere, but it is an interesting exercise to observe how this Sakura's personality is being altered by the greater hardships she endures. The two have the same soul, but their personalities are nonetheless distinct. In the end, I wonder how different this Sakura will be from the CCS Sakura.
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: ishiyaki on March 09 2007, 08:39 am
HEY GUYS! THE TUBE APPEARED!!! :o :o

IT'S IN LAST HOLIC'S CHAPTER, THE TINY VERSION OF TUBE IT'S IN YUUKO'S SHOP!!
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Emiko on March 10 2007, 07:20 am
^Ishiyaki, you may want to put your post under spoilers tags, seeing as you're talking about a spoiler for Holic, not Tsubasa (furthermore, if spoilers have been posted on this page, I think it's safe to say that people don't need to use spoiler tags, as spoilers are what we're all here to see!)
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Meowzy on March 11 2007, 01:31 am
I'd say it has more to do with Tsubasa than XXXholic. After all, in XXXholic it's just a random detail in the background, while it has much more meaning in Tsubasa. (at this time, anyway)
As for what the heck that mini tube is doing there... It could just be a joke inserted by Clamp, but... I doubt it. It could also be the symbolical prize that Syaoran paid. What was it again? Time and... freedom. I can definately recognize freedom in that tube.
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on March 12 2007, 06:29 am
OK, where's the spoiler of chapter 146............ we were in a very 'hangcliffting' (I hope I right correct this word) moment..... Only 3 days more to  know what happened. 28 Volumes to go........ go on Tsubasa, go on mina, go on CLAMP!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Tatasenko on March 12 2007, 07:35 am
OK, where's the spoiler of chapter 146............ we were in a very 'hangcliffting' (I hope I right correct this word) moment..... Only 3 days more to  know what happened. 28 Volumes to go........ go on Tsubasa, go on mina, go on CLAMP!!!!!!!!!!


if i were you i wouldn't be so yearning to see chapter 146...the reason is very simple,but do you really want to know... :sweatdrop:?

you remenber that chapter 145 was quite boring,don't you?well,chapter 146 is worse  :dodge::

THE CHAPTER IS SO BORING THAT IT DOES NOT DESERVE A SUMMARY!

http://su-chan.livejournal.com/130876.html
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on March 12 2007, 09:40 am
you remenber that chapter 145 was quite boring,don't you?well,chapter 146 is worse  :dodge::

Well  :heh: Thanks for the warning  :sweatdrop: Well I think that chapter 145 has information, that's the reason I was exited, maybe in action boring, yes, I agree, but if chapter 146 is going to be worst, I hope the only think that helps the chapter is some relative information  ??? :heh:

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:keke:I Have my hopes in Tsubasa :keke:

Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: kuma on March 12 2007, 08:34 pm
I checked again and the spoiler 146 is there
It has Chi, and kurofai development (just a small part at the ending :)
it so gOOOOOd
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on March 12 2007, 10:42 pm
yay for kurofai. and if chi's there, that means she DID live :D
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: ishiyaki on March 13 2007, 12:39 am
^Ishiyaki, you may want to put your post under spoilers tags, seeing as you're talking about a spoiler for Holic, not Tsubasa (furthermore, if spoilers have been posted on this page, I think it's safe to say that people don't need to use spoiler tags, as spoilers are what we're all here to see!)
Gomen nasai X(((
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Tatasenko on March 13 2007, 04:15 am
oups,i'm so sorry to have said that chapter 146 was going to be more boring than chapter 145,because this is ALL THE INVERSE that will occur  :sweatdrop:!!!

chapter 146 is going to be the beginning of new moments of KuroFainess,exactly like chapter 112 was the introduction of many importants events in their relationship  :surprised:!

i don't want to hide the spoiler,because i'm sure that everybody want to know at once what i'm talking about (it would be a waste of time to lose two seconds in clicking on the spoiler tag  :haha:) :

Chii is again telling Fai that his hour is near because Ashura is coming (not explicitly of course  :greengrin:),we also learn that Fai was the one among the group who was supposed to be badly wounded at the end of the chess game according to Sakura's dream,and above all...KUROGANE GRABS FAI'S ARM WHEN THIS ONE IS ABOUT TO RUN AWAY AGAIN  :keke:

http://su-chan.livejournal.com/131120.html#cutid1
http://su-chan.livejournal.com/131120.html?thread=2689328#t2689328
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: kuma on March 13 2007, 09:20 pm
Hmm I don't know if Fai would be wounded during the match
my bet is on Kurogane since he's the only one without magic (a bit of disadvatage there)
beside I want to see a bloody!Kuro
Fai already has his share on that part (tokyo world) ^^;
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: ishiyaki on March 14 2007, 02:38 am
Waaaa! SUGOI! it's gonna be really really interesting! May Kuro shows his father-side!
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Tatasenko on March 14 2007, 07:56 pm
Hmm I don't know if Fai would be wounded during the match
my bet is on Kurogane since he's the only one without magic (a bit of disadvatage there)
beside I want to see a bloody!Kuro
Fai already has his share on that part (tokyo world) ^^;

i'm sorry to disappoint you but...there has been new spoilers...not especially for chapter 146 but mostly for the others upcoming chapters (so it may happens very soon,most likely at the end of this tome  :surprised:)

i don't want to scare you but all that we have seen until now about Fai's slaughter is NOTHING compared to what i'm going to reveal you...
thanks to Snowaltz who translated it for us,here is the awful future of Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle  :sweatdrop::

In Sakura's premonition (yes, it's not dream unlike the previous spoiler part), Fai was lying on the floor and there was blood on both Kuro and Syao's faces. The blood on Kuro and Syao's faces were Fai's blood. Syao was staring with his mouth open in shock while we can see Kuro's side view, that he is also in shock.

We can't see Fai's face, we can only see his waist.

Blood was everywhere.

And Chii was disfigured while time in Celes passes slowly.

so now WE CAN REALLY FEAR for the "happy ending" that CLAMP promised us  :dodge:...
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on March 14 2007, 09:45 pm
so chi DOESNT survive? :( and fai being hurt :(((((
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: ishiyaki on March 14 2007, 11:15 pm
OMGOMGOMG!!!!! on my! what a spoilers! I never trust in Clamp's happy endings, they can be really awful...;_;
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Post by: Itzeen on March 15 2007, 01:53 am
let's see the happy ending like something "artistic" in some theories of filosophy the death is som ething beautiful and artistic.... we can see in thet "way" I think :dodge: :heh:
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Post by: Tatasenko on March 17 2007, 11:09 pm
Yeah,here we go for the spoilers of chapter 147  :keke:!
since Kurogane has grabbed Fai's arm in chapter 146 i couldn't wait to know what he was going to say,but there is an event MUCH BETTER that happens!
something that we are waiting for a long time but that CLAMP always manages to delay to make us become crazy  :sweatdrop:!

i can sum up the chapter in one word,but it will be sufficient to create a explosion of passion  8) :

CELES !!!

http://su-chan.livejournal.com/133321.html#cutid1
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Meowzy on March 18 2007, 07:30 am
Hm... I don't quite get the whole "Chii" thing though.
First it's said that black Chii appears, then that some seal on Celes' Chii is broken, and then suddenly Celes Chii IS black Chii? O_o
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: ishiyaki on March 18 2007, 08:48 am
Hm... I don't quite get the whole "Chii" thing though.
First it's said that black Chii appears, then that some seal on Celes' Chii is broken, and then suddenly Celes Chii IS black Chii? O_o
I didn't see chobits, but how could Chii become Freya? Ashuura's influence?
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Post by: Meowzy on March 18 2007, 10:24 pm
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In Chobits, it first seems that Chii has split personalities. The black Chii being doubtful about love. Later, it is revealed that the black Chii is called Freya, and is actually Elda's (Chii) older sister. Freya was 'disappearing' because she'd fallen in love with her 'father' and the pain was too much to bear. Then Elda downloaded Freya's 'heart' into her own body, to keep her safe.
After Chii found 'the one just for her' and was supposed to start a special program (I'm thinking of the anime now), she decided to disappear and Freya resurfaced completely, taking over Chii's body. It's been a while since I read the manga version of the ending. I can't really remember why Freya resurfaced in there.

Heh. Chobits spoilers. ^^'
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Post by: Itzeen on March 19 2007, 03:20 am
Ho my good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is going to be the best
Chap 147 is going to be awsome!!!!!!!!!
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The thing Freya!!!!!!! and the connections between the 3 world!!!!!!!!!
And more important Xiao-Lang is going to travell with Sakura too??????????
This going to be the start of a complete mess ;D
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: kuma on March 19 2007, 08:47 pm
And so I was right about 'her' being freya
that's the first correct guess I've ever made
Meh! it's just luck anyways
is so happy
but still I wish I didn't read the spoiler
Gah! me and my itchy hands
I want it to be a surprise :(
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Post by: ishiyaki on March 20 2007, 01:04 am
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In Chobits, it first seems that Chii has split personalities. The black Chii being doubtful about love. Later, it is revealed that the black Chii is called Freya, and is actually Elda's (Chii) older sister. Freya was 'disappearing' because she'd fallen in love with her 'father' and the pain was too much to bear. Then Elda downloaded Freya's 'heart' into her own body, to keep her safe.
After Chii found 'the one just for her' and was supposed to start a special program (I'm thinking of the anime now), she decided to disappear and Freya resurfaced completely, taking over Chii's body. It's been a while since I read the manga version of the ending. I can't really remember why Freya resurfaced in there.

Heh. Chobits spoilers. ^^'
mmm...extrange story, I hope understand it better with chapter 147^^ it's going to be a shocking chapter!
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on March 20 2007, 02:27 am
i had to bite my lip and suck in my lips to prevent the grin from breaking my face ( did NOT want to xplain to my mom why i had a ji-normous grin on my face. BUT, on the inside im sqeeeee-ing to ddeath, and ill let myself grin in privacy :DDDDD

SOO cant wait!!
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: kuma on March 21 2007, 09:12 pm
chp 147 tommorrow
I can't wait
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Post by: Itzeen on March 22 2007, 02:53 am
Only few hours for the new chapter 147!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Smile_For_Me on March 22 2007, 03:49 am
I can't wait. Whoo hoo.

I'm on Spring Break now
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Post by: ishiyaki on March 25 2007, 03:06 am
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SPOILERS FROM SU-CHAN!!!! BEWARE!!!THIS CHAPTER IS REALLY A BIG SHOCK!!!
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Two choices

Sakura IS TRYING TO GET free from Syaoran to scape to the other world

Fay looks up to two persons.

His past:
A voice resounds in the world: 'take me out of here'
'you are maybe the selected person?'
From the beggining one's person end has come, due to personal decisions. (ok, sure is WRONG)

(end of past I think)

Instant death (yes, only one meaning for those kanjis all alone: 即ÞÝ¡£)

The 'voice' cuts to pieces the room as a finger moves.
Fay's magical power is surpassed. (T_T)

That person puts a curse on Fay's hand, a curse 'to kill'

(or maybe here ends the flashbak and that curse was placed by that person loong ago, not now. I noticed the fact that Ashura is not mentioned in these lines, 'person' is used instead))

Fay continues escaping from Ashura, he does want to kill Ashura

And one of the assasin's daggers/blades(feathers) goes through Sakura

EDIT! Looks like the dagger was FAY'S!!!! : ýÕìÓªÎÛ¯ªÁ⢪ϫի¡«¤

CLICk FOR horror...fye, sakura...
http://su-chan.livejournal.com/134564.html#cutid1
Fai's brother...
http://i14.tinypic.com/2qar8mx.jpg
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on March 25 2007, 03:59 am
What the!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this chapter is going to be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I really need to have the next chapter!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So, that's the deep past of Fai??? o my!!!!!!!!!!!!! And all this time I though he was!!!!!!!!!!!! every one here knows....... a very good guy!!!!!!
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: ishiyaki on March 25 2007, 07:28 am
Yeah, I CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT I SAW IN THE SPOILERS SCANS...CLAMP, THIS CAN'T BE TRUE!!! :o :o :o

WHAT WILL SYAORAN DO??? OMGOMG!!!
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Tsuki-kun on March 25 2007, 01:17 pm
WTF!!!  :o

No way!!!! This is not happenning!!!  :o
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Meowzy on March 25 2007, 10:15 pm
This is what Ashura_sama said in a reply;
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I went WTF at these spoilers too. Here's my general take on it: a long time ago, Fai was cursed to kill with his own hands people who surpass his magic power. That's why he's been running from Ashura-ou (殺めたくない -> does not want to kill). Sakura receives a new feather (from Shaoran's experience, the heart is connected to magic power as well, and together with Yukito's weird line from chapter 1...) and thus now satisfies the requirement of surpassing Fai's powers. The curse kicks in and he attempts to kill her, that's why the person we thought was Fai in the vision had no belt -- it wasn't Fai, it was Sakura.

Okay, that above was my interpretation. Below are actual corrections.

Corrections: the first line is "tries to escape". Since she got stabbed, she obviously didn't succeed. In the flashback, the voice said something about leaving, and then, "Choose. You or the other person. The result of choosing yourself is the other person falling. (T/N: Not sure what 頭から should be translated as.) Instant death." And, as I said above, it's probably that Fai -doesn't- want to kill Ashura-ou (the がため part confuses me a bit, though -- I suspect it should've been のため or がだめ).

It makes sense. It makes a lot of sense. Why Fai would be running from Ashura...
And... I think I know who the 'person' is. I bet it's... Mr. Monocle!
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Post by: tsuki on March 25 2007, 10:58 pm
This is what Ashura_sama said in a reply;
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I went WTF at these spoilers too. Here's my general take on it: a long time ago, Fai was cursed to kill with his own hands people who surpass his magic power. That's why he's been running from Ashura-ou (殺めたくない -> does not want to kill). Sakura receives a new feather (from Shaoran's experience, the heart is connected to magic power as well, and together with Yukito's weird line from chapter 1...) and thus now satisfies the requirement of surpassing Fai's powers. The curse kicks in and he attempts to kill her, that's why the person we thought was Fai in the vision had no belt -- it wasn't Fai, it was Sakura.

Okay, that above was my interpretation. Below are actual corrections.

Corrections: the first line is "tries to escape". Since she got stabbed, she obviously didn't succeed. In the flashback, the voice said something about leaving, and then, "Choose. You or the other person. The result of choosing yourself is the other person falling. (T/N: Not sure what 頭から should be translated as.) Instant death." And, as I said above, it's probably that Fai -doesn't- want to kill Ashura-ou (the がため part confuses me a bit, though -- I suspect it should've been のため or がだめ).

It makes sense. It makes a lot of sense. Why Fai would be running from Ashura...
And... I think I know who the 'person' is. I bet it's... Mr. Monocle!

Ditto~!Now we know why Fye is running away from Ashura-ou!
Ergh...the latest chapitre is really sad! T^T Now I confused! >_<" Woo-hoo!Dark Chii & Light Chii!! xD
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on March 26 2007, 02:26 am
And... I think I know who the 'person' is. I bet it's... Mr. Monocle!

So, do you think the one that help Fai escaiping for the prison, and the one that curse him was Fei Wong Reed???
.......  ??? ??? ??? So Ashura-ou was the one that put that tatoo on Fai to controll the curse?? (I'm only thinking of a hypotetical situation)
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Meowzy on March 26 2007, 03:17 am
I'm not sure if the curse has to do with his tattoo. After all, Fay said he wouldn't use his magic without the tattoo. What would that have to do with other people's magic surpassing him? Unless without the tattoo, his magic gets drained to an even lower level.
*thinks*
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Crystall on March 26 2007, 09:53 pm
 :surprised:i am so confused of what u wrote, meowzy... so, fai will try to kill sakura because she's more powerfull?  :confused: btw, awesome chapter, i loved the part when syaoran grabbed sakura's hand.  :D
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on March 27 2007, 02:26 am
More spoilers in Su-chan lj...... more images and more angst!!!!!!!!! go on Tsubasa :heh: :heh: :heh:

http://su-chan.livejournal.com/135025.html#cutid1

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And... I think I know who the 'person' is. I bet it's... Mr. Monocle!

You were right FWR was the one that put the curse on Fai!!!!!


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Post by: Meowzy on March 27 2007, 06:00 am
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Oh wow... Those images...
Damn you, Fei Wang Reed!
But I still don't get why Fay and brother/sister were locked up, and how brother/sister dies.
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on March 27 2007, 05:01 pm
ohhhhh
my
god

;_;

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i think sakura will live tho...remember, yuuko wont get her good fortune UNTIL she leaves infinity, and since she wasnt able to leave, her wish is null and void in all sence, and therefore will have enough luck to survive...such a thing as that...

emotionally tho, 2 of her closest friends have now betrayed her... first syaoran, who turned her into an isolated independant child until she pulled thru that to be friendly toward real syao, but getting stabed by a close companon, who once upon a time called himelf your mommy...well thats not so good.

i wonder how kurogane will react? he seemed stunned how fai teleported out of his grip like that.... he'll obviously be stunned, then pissed, will probably atleast PUNCH fai, then demand to know what the hell he was thinking. 

please tell me that CLAMP wont be sadistic and stick us with a one, --or worse, two-- week break. ill simply DIE if they do ;__;

oh, and ireally hope we get a leaked out early one for this one... i remember we used to get treal early ones, out by monday, (once it came out SUNDAY night, right? those were the days...
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Meowzy on March 27 2007, 07:12 pm
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i think sakura will live tho...remember, yuuko wont get her good fortune UNTIL she leaves infinity, and since she wasnt able to leave, her wish is null and void in all sence, and therefore will have enough luck to survive...such a thing as that...

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Yes, but normally Yuuko immediately takes the payment. The fact that she didn't take Sakura's luck immediately could be seen a bad thing. Like with... Remember the compulsive liar?
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Post by: Crystall on March 28 2007, 10:26 pm
oh my god.... sakura.... i can't believe this....and those are all the images? i agree with yue :
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yuuko would take her luck when she had left infinity, not before...
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: kuma on March 31 2007, 07:19 pm
spoiler for chapter149 is out now at su-chan's
only picture though no text YET
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on March 31 2007, 10:19 pm
AHHHHHHH su-chan's got text!!!!!!

http://su-chan.livejournal.com/135633.html#cutid1

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fai cries...sakura is SOOO forgiving!!!!!! thats her best quality!!!!
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Meowzy on March 31 2007, 10:53 pm
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Okay, so... We've got a wounded, soulless body at Celes, and a spirit of Sakura in that world she wanted to go to. Sakura could inhabit Freya's body, otherwise she'd be a bit screwed. I doubt her soul could take a physical shape.
If Ashura really is a nice guy, I'm sure he'll take good care of Sakura's body until she comes back for it. XD
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: ishiyaki on April 01 2007, 08:11 am
I can't stand the break between 149-150...this spoilers is  a loud OMG!
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Post by: EuphoriaBliss on April 02 2007, 07:42 pm
So, she didnt want to go to Celes? Wow, alot of fans got me going through the whole concept of Sakura going to Celes. And for the last pages of chapter 149, I was expecting a more violent reaction from Syaoran. Like the one Fai had. I was shocked to see Fai crying...TT.TT
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: ishiyaki on April 02 2007, 08:43 pm
Now I understand why TRC is going to be 27-28 volumes...story plot line is more and more confusing, I hope TRC's ending will be "good"...
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on April 02 2007, 09:40 pm
anand the proper sence of the word!

as for sakura's body with chi... from all the splash pages  of ashura, for the most part, Ashura sems genuinly nice. perhaps aloof (see: fai-ashura splash on ch 117) but he's not evil [which is why i  now refuse to read "ashura's  a bastard" fics] if anything, im sure ashura would take care, and perhaps heal, sakura's body.
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on April 03 2007, 01:46 am
OMG OMG I need to read right now chap 149, I want today to be 4 of April!!!!!!!!!
FAY Crying!!!!
Sakura spilit in two
Celes??? th other world???
My head is going to explote (And we have to wait 8 volumes more)
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on April 03 2007, 05:10 am
su-chan now has 5 more images *__*
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: ishiyaki on April 03 2007, 07:19 am

here are the images...Fay looks scary and powerful...
http://su-chan.livejournal.com/135950.html#cutid1
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Renaya on April 03 2007, 12:29 pm
the story's progress is getting more intense and more misery, does it? -_-

have totally no idea how Sakura got divide into 2 : body and soul, and where the heck the mind go to, i think the body (bleeding one ><) goes to Celes and why she even go there. Now, only the guys left, what will they do, I mean what CLAMP WILL do to them, i'm guessing they will go after Sakura, so Celes it is, since they don't know where the other one goes.

BTW, will there be new chapter next week, or it will be cliffhanger?
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on April 03 2007, 04:28 pm
cliffy, unfortunatly :( tho it seems rather mild, compared to the end of 148 XD
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: EuphoriaBliss on April 06 2007, 11:18 am
It's a funny prediction, but maybe Renaya's right. They might go after the Sakura in Celes (or at least try, dispite the 'you cant travel to where you want' thing). And maybe, when they meet Sakura's body she wont remember any of them. Since all her memories is part of her soul and the soul is going to the place she wants to go. I heard from the other thread, CLAMP cant just leave it with only 3 guys, so the body Sakura joins them, they start everything all over again... I mean there is 28 volumes and we're still on volume 20.(?) And for SakuSyao fans, maybe this time Sakura's body will like R!Syao...
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Smile_For_Me on April 15 2007, 05:56 am
Got to love su_chan

http://su-chan.livejournal.com/139074.html#cutid1

I was in tears, OMG I soo want to read this
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Tsuki-kun on April 15 2007, 10:11 am
So Sakura sacrificed her right leg and her luck?
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on April 15 2007, 11:07 am
holy... im... wow... O___O

<---is speechless
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on April 15 2007, 03:17 pm
OMG, Holly Shit, WTF I can't believe.............
Sakura, I think Sakura right now is my heroine (givin' up her body, the healling, the luck, her mind and every thing just to avoid the death of the guys)
My god, poor of the three guys really, poor of them (I want to hug Xiao-Lang, Fai and Kurogane just to confort they sorrow jijiji)
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Tenkuuken on April 15 2007, 07:25 pm
...Two Sakuras?

I can;t wait for the next chapter already! I wonder which the guys will go after, her body or her soul? :XD:
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Post by: Meowzy on April 15 2007, 07:58 pm
...
*giggle*
Fullmetal Sakura! XD
Sorry, I couldn't resist.

That 'vision' picture was beautiful.
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on April 15 2007, 11:05 pm
...Two Sakuras?

I can;t wait for the next chapter already! I wonder which the guys will go after, her body or her soul? :XD:
well since they know where her soul is, theyre going to ceres next.
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Meowzy on April 16 2007, 03:14 am
Nyeah, I guess the soul is safe for now...
The body, however...
Oh, this calls for the complete revelation of Fay's past! >D
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on April 16 2007, 03:28 am
I think as the things are going in the story of TCR maybe vol 20 is going to be dedicated to Fai's past, the same as vol 13 in Kurogane's case.....
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on April 16 2007, 11:53 am
holy crap. look at whta su-chan's got!!!!!!

http://su-chan.livejournal.com/139624.html#cutid1
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Jenx on April 16 2007, 04:37 pm
OMG COLOR SPLASH!
Wednesday can not come fast enough! XDD
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: ishiyaki on April 16 2007, 11:57 pm
what a spoilers! Sakura is too much a good girl...X(
Poor Fai, he's going to be blaming himself the rest of manga...:'(
I hope he had a good ending...
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Cherry tiger on April 17 2007, 12:04 am
Gah... I'm listening to Nine Inch Nail's "Hurt" and I can't help but think of this as Fye's song at the current moment:

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I hurt myself today
To see if I still feel
I focus on the pain
The only thing that's real
The needle tears a hole
The old familiar sting
Try to kill it all away
But I remember everything

What have I become?
My sweetest friend
Everyone I know
Goes away in the end
You could have it all
My empire of dirt
I will let you down
I will make you hurt

I wear this crown of shit
Upon my liar's chair
Full of broken thoughts
I cannot repair
Beneath the stains of time
The feelings disappear
You are someone else
I am still right here

What have I become?
My sweetest friend
Everyone I know
Goes away in the end

You could have it all
My empire of dirt
I will let you down
I will make you hurt
If I could start again
A million miles away
I would keep myself
I would find a way

Anyways, I just checked out the spoilers in su-chan's LJ and...

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I'm not so sure about how it happened, but Sakura ends up in the tube, together with the same outfit we see her in the very first chapter. I wonder how it happened but I really want chapter 150 now... @_@
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Post by: Itzeen on April 17 2007, 02:03 am
2 more days only 2 more!!!!!!!
I can't wait!!!!!! I want chapter 150
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Post by: Tenkuuken on April 17 2007, 06:04 am
Hmm... So Celes it's gonna be? (hears protests from KuroFai fans)
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Post by: Airashii on April 17 2007, 06:40 am
Gah... I'm listening to Nine Inch Nail's "Hurt" and I can't help but think of this as Fye's song at the current moment:

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I hurt myself today
To see if I still feel
I focus on the pain
The only thing that's real
The needle tears a hole
The old familiar sting
Try to kill it all away
But I remember everything

What have I become?
My sweetest friend
Everyone I know
Goes away in the end
You could have it all
My empire of dirt
I will let you down
I will make you hurt

I wear this crown of shit
Upon my liar's chair
Full of broken thoughts
I cannot repair
Beneath the stains of time
The feelings disappear
You are someone else
I am still right here

What have I become?
My sweetest friend
Everyone I know
Goes away in the end

You could have it all
My empire of dirt
I will let you down
I will make you hurt
If I could start again
A million miles away
I would keep myself
I would find a way

Anyways, I just checked out the spoilers in su-chan's LJ and...

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I'm not so sure about how it happened, but Sakura ends up in the tube, together with the same outfit we see her in the very first chapter. I wonder how it happened but I really want chapter 150 now... @_@

So, the story is coming to an end, right? Because thats the thing we see in the very first chapter of TRC. How sad...
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on April 17 2007, 07:27 am
i need to reread the spoiler again, ...did sakura give up her leg for Fai? she did. wow. what a girl! poor fai :(
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on April 17 2007, 09:14 am
*drools*

http://su-chan.livejournal.com/140001.html

the splash.... kuro-fai.... *collapses* *__*



anoying 5 word limit <_<


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Post by: ishiyaki on April 22 2007, 12:16 am
oh my! I don't know what to think!!!
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FAI IS A VERY BIG LIAR!!!!! HE KNEW IT FROM START!!!!
I've always believed that he was hidding that!!!  :foncused: >:(
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on April 22 2007, 12:26 am
http://su-chan.livejournal.com/140686.html

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i really hope they dont take away fai's right eye. thatd be too cruel :'(
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Post by: Smile_For_Me on April 22 2007, 07:23 am
I had an Idea Fay knew, and also had the feather with him. Yuko better be happy about the rain, thats all I can say......

Fay.......;-; *crys*
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Post by: tg on April 22 2007, 09:06 am
http://su-chan.livejournal.com/140686.html

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i really hope they dont take away fai's right eye. thatd be too cruel :'(

Ah, I see. Hence, the point of a spoiler discussion thread.  I can't post the spoilers in the first page of the chapter. O.o Oooh. Ok. Haha. Things definitely have changed while I was away.  ^__^ Whee.. 

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I don't think Fai's eye will be taken away. I can't imagine Fai having two eye patches. Really. Can't. No. That is .... unless, someone else pays the price to save Fai.  *stares at Kurogane's eye hungrily* 
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Post by: Itzeen on April 22 2007, 09:18 am
NOOOOOOOO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF!!!!!!!!!

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so Fay had the 1st feather of Sakura!!!!!!!! I was thinking is was very strange that Fay "found" so quickly the feather..............

In the end what is going to give Fai, his eyeball or his sight!!!!! is very dificult that situation.................

I want that tomorrow were Wendesday really, I want to see the expretions of everyone   

 :dodge: :dodge: :dodge: :dodge: ??? :heh:
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Post by: Tsuki-kun on April 22 2007, 10:09 am
NOOOOOOOO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF!!!!!!!!!

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so Fay had the 1st feather of Sakura!!!!!!!! I was thinking is was very strange that Fay "found" so quickly the feather..............

In the end what is going to give Fai, his eyeball or his sight!!!!! is very dificult that situation.................

I want that tomorrow were Wendesday really, I want to see the expretions of everyone   

 :dodge: :dodge: :dodge: :dodge: ??? :heh:
I think Fay needs a beating...
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on April 22 2007, 01:58 pm
What? No. He just needs some one like kuro to set him strait. (in a maner of speaking that is!)
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Post by: Meowzy on April 22 2007, 09:00 pm
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... Huh? But then... Did Fay have two feathers? He said he used the feather to create Chii. A few chapters ago, that feather was removed from Chii's body. But then how did Fay get that feather he gave to Syaoran in Hanshin? O_o

Yes, I too think that Kurogane will give up half his eyesight in Fay's stead. After all, that's what Clamp loves, isn't it? Making guys HALF blind, instead of completely blind. XD
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on April 22 2007, 11:06 pm
indeed. itd be too redundant for fai to have no site. kuro'd get pissy at that, yell at fai, fai will be angsty. then kuro and syao'd give something else up.

besides...would a miagical eye be the right price for the right to choose? yuuko might reject fai's bargain. usualy SHE names the price, not vice versa. like at the begining, he tried to get her to take the staff rather than his tatoo. she said "if your willing to give it up, then its not valuable enough"

oviously they DO make it to ceres. but i really really hope CLAMP doesnt take fais eye.
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Post by: tg on April 23 2007, 05:22 am
Here's a small scan preview from 2ch. Edit: Yep, this is definitely 151 but I made an error. Missed that part of su-chan's translation.

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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/Tomogirl/151.jpg)

Kurogane: "....if they meet, they'll be hit" or ".....If I meet him, I will hit him." (<< Nevermind. After looking through su-chan's translations, the 'if they meet' part makes more sense with the next next line.)
Syaoran: Eh!?

Ah well, looking forward to the Room of Requirement any day now. ^_^
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Post by: Airashii on April 23 2007, 06:20 am
Oh wow, when is the latest chapter coming out?
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Post by: householddutch on April 23 2007, 10:27 pm

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Kurogane: "....if they meet, they'll be hit"


I wonder if he's talking about Tomoyo being attacked by Fay's curse? Or something...
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Kai-Lilly on April 26 2007, 01:51 pm
they're going after her body in celes

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Fai wants to sacrifice his other eye so they can choose to go to the world were her body is (celes)
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on April 27 2007, 08:29 am
in xxxholic, yuuko says that if sakura's soul stays separate  from the body to long, the body will die and she wont be ale to return to it. and the body cant enter the world of dreams either O_O
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Post by: Tenkuuken on April 27 2007, 03:09 pm
It's definite that Sakura's body would be locked up in some pool or cube or something while healing. Hopefully they arrive early enough to get her back.
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Post by: Itzeen on May 02 2007, 08:38 am
tomorrow is supouse to be chapter 152!!!!! so no spoiler the schedule of this month says that the only break is going to be the 16th of may (that is in two weeks) so CLAMP deside to change the break to make more angst?!?!?!?!?!?!
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Senefen on May 02 2007, 02:47 pm
Ahh I gotta go back and read the chapters where Yuuko meets eveyone. I want to see if anything's up with Watanuki. I doubt he'd be powerful to invoke Fai's curse but I wonder if there's anythign there.
Still wondering about the R!Syaoran/Watanuki connection.

Where are the spoilers damn it!?
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on May 02 2007, 05:23 pm
next chapter set for 5/07 =(
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on May 04 2007, 04:47 am
su-chan's got some spoilers up!

http://su-chan.livejournal.com/143426.html

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knew fai wouldnt end up blind =P
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Meowzy on May 04 2007, 06:00 am
Wow... That's really confusing. I hope it gets cleared up soon.
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on May 04 2007, 01:41 pm
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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4 have to pay to go to Celes?! I was thinking that maybe that means something that yukko was saying to sakura, "something that the guys have to pay with the experience of fighting in the chess tournament", and mokona...... what is going to give mokona to go to celes?
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: tg on May 05 2007, 04:49 pm
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4 have to pay to go to Celes?! I was thinking that maybe that means something that yukko was saying to sakura, "something that the guys have to pay with the experience of fighting in the chess tournament", and mokona...... what is going to give mokona to go to celes?

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We don't know yet. The spoiler talks about "four" payments. Syaoran, Kurogane, Fai, but Mokona?  Actually, if Mokona looses an eye, um.. He'll probably tease Kurogane about wearing an eye patch now.  :D (It's pirate day in Tsubasa! Whee..)  I'm pretty sure Mokona's payment will be something else. Maybe something comical like his love for drinking! Ahahha.

And this is my own translation to what 2ch posted which I also posted in MSN. It's a little different from Su-chan's. Can't quite figure out where su-chan got "Syaoran" from.

扉画:コピー
Cover: Clone
 
結局対価は黒・真・モコナと4等分して支払いセレス国へ。
The value is dark and, after all, the truth. The four's capitation is the payment to Ceres country with Mokona.
 
アゴの狙いは外れた。
The aim of the jaw came off. (It actually says "jaw" in kana which is "アゴ".)
 
真を消させるはずが失敗。
To erase the truth, fails.
 
さくらの先見により予見、対象をさくら自身に変えさせたとは。
Sakura forsees it by her foresight. The future that was possible to change by Sakura.
 
だがファイにかけた呪いは二つ。
However, Fai was put on two curses.
 
ひとつは失効したが。
Although, one made an error.
 
もうひとつはセレス国でのみ発動する代物。
Another one is an object moved only in Ceres country.
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on May 05 2007, 10:21 pm
many are swsaying not to trust those spoilers, since their from thrusday and REALA spoiles dont come out till satuerday.... reasonably some spolers are confusing, but i really hope the one about 4 paying for the wish is true. i really ont want an all blind fai.
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Senefen on May 06 2007, 04:25 pm
>I'm pretty sure Mokona's payment will be something else.
The ear ring? Black Mokona's was for binding, White Mokona's was for magic? Mokona doesnt have much to physically give.

Fai's Two curses:
One is obviously the kill any mage stronger than himself, I'm also more or less assuming being so powerful is what got him sealed away in that tower in the first place, any thoughts on this?
Two: way way back didnt he say something about not being able to let himself die or something? One translation made it seem he was immortal (O.o), the other that he couldn't kill himself or let himself die, but it was ok if someone killed him.
If you had a horrible life this would be a curse, or maybe he's just living to make up for the death of his twin/clone *shurg*
It'll probably be a third thing I havent thought of.
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on May 07 2007, 11:20 pm
su-chans got lotsa spoilers & picies!!

http://su-chan.livejournal.com/144457.html#cutid1

i LOVE kurogane!! XD

Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Meowzy on May 07 2007, 11:37 pm
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*starts laughing*
The way Kuro hits Fay is sooo lame. Like... "Shut up, *****!" XD
Man, Kuro decided he's finally had enough crap, eh? Go him!
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on May 08 2007, 10:17 am
Suchan added more pics. Including a better one of THAT *_* i wana see them. Curse cell phone internet!
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Kazemon15 on May 08 2007, 03:06 pm
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...very strange...very very strange...I always thought that it was intended of FWR to make Fai stab Syaoran because of his powers...how weird...I was right...
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Senefen on May 09 2007, 04:31 pm
AHHHHH! WHY DIDN'T I SEE IT BEFORE!?
Fai offers up his second eye to save a girl he cares about and get's told off for treating himself like garbage and putting no worth in himself. Yay for history repeating! Watanuki realised people loved him and change himself. Now it's Fai's turn if he chooses.

There's been a soul/body splitting before in xxxholic remember? Zashiki Warashi took Doumeki's soul by accident (was after chocolate O.o) and Yuuko warned Watanuki if he didn't get it back Doumeki would die. The she put newspapers over Doumeki and sat on him O.o.

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...very strange...very very strange...I always thought that it was intended of FWR to make Fai stab Syaoran because of his powers...how weird...I was right...
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That means Syao-kun's magic is closs to Fai's halved level? What would have happened if Sakura hadn't payed the price and had Fai stab her rather than Syaoran? Would he have stabbed Syaoran as soon as he got his eye back or at some other time. I mean, Syaoran's either stronger than Fai and so Fai has to kill him or he's weaker and he doesnt.

"I never thought about the magician killing the witch, but for him to stab the princess...
The one originally intended to be stabbed to death by Fay was "Syaoran" who got his original powers back.
But Sakura, who took back her magical power, foresaw the future and gave up her luck and right foot to change the one to be stabbed to herself."

So shouldn't Syaoran have been stabbed as soon as he got his eye and Fai lost his? Why didnt Fai try to kill him back in Tokyo?
Thoughts?
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Kazemon15 on May 09 2007, 05:24 pm

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That means Syao-kun's magic is closs to Fai's halved level? What would have happened if Sakura hadn't payed the price and had Fai stab her rather than Syaoran? Would he have stabbed Syaoran as soon as he got his eye back or at some other time. I mean, Syaoran's either stronger than Fai and so Fai has to kill him or he's weaker and he doesnt.

"I never thought about the magician killing the witch, but for him to stab the princess...
The one originally intended to be stabbed to death by Fay was "Syaoran" who got his original powers back.
But Sakura, who took back her magical power, foresaw the future and gave up her luck and right foot to change the one to be stabbed to herself."

So shouldn't Syaoran have been stabbed as soon as he got his eye and Fai lost his? Why didnt Fai try to kill him back in Tokyo?
Thoughts?

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Maybe Syaoran's powers arent fully developed yet...after all...he was trapped in there for years...and plus, he gave half his magic to the clone when he was younger...maybe he hadnt really recieved his full magic back yet...after all, he is the descendant of Clow...he has to have very powerful magic....
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Tenkuuken on May 15 2007, 02:34 pm
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I'm kinda interested in that other curse that FWR placed on Fai. Maybe its something to ensure that he kills someone for good, i.e. Syaoran, Sakura, or Ashura...
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on May 15 2007, 03:25 pm
Too obvious. Why wouldnt chi have fallen victim? It might have to do with his magic. Perhaps with his vow? Im confused on the first me tho. When fwr cursed fai he said it was unbreakable but now he and yuuko say sakura broke it. O.o
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Senefen on May 15 2007, 08:35 pm
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I'm kinda interested in that other curse that FWR placed on Fai. Maybe its something to ensure that he kills someone for good, i.e. Syaoran, Sakura, or Ashura...
Makes me wonder why Fai sealed Ashura in the first place. Maybe Ashura  was close to being more powerful than Fai (or the other curse was coming into effect) and Fai sealed him so that he wouldnt kill him, maybe he's afraid of Ashura coming after him because he doesn't want to kill him. ^^ someone probably already raised this point.
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Meowzy on May 16 2007, 12:09 am
I think the second curse has to do with Fay's tattoo and the fact that he vowed not to use his magic anymore. After all, the first curse has nothing to do with the usage of magic.
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Senefen on May 16 2007, 10:52 am
It does kind of, Since he has to kill anyone with stronger magic than his.
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Meowzy on May 17 2007, 07:02 am
Yes, but what does that have to do with USING his magic? Using his magic doesn't make it any less strong.
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on May 20 2007, 07:57 am
Spoilers over at r_u_k_i_a's LJ.
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yay for going to celes! The price for going tho O.o cant wait to see fais face!
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on May 21 2007, 01:19 am
3 more days to see the departure to celes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(I hope CLAMP never again put 2 breaks in 1 month, to many angst)
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Smile_For_Me on May 21 2007, 05:24 am
Thank You Su-Chan

http://su-chan.livejournal.com/146527.html#cutid1

Kuro, I wonder what you will look like
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Kai-Lilly on May 21 2007, 10:06 am
When fwr cursed fai he said it was unbreakable but now he and yuuko say sakura broke it. O.o
perhaps the curse only works once??

Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Smile_For_Me on May 27 2007, 05:06 am
http://su-chan.livejournal.com/148375.html#cutid1


*Twitch* LOMG, CLAMP WHY?????

Yeah, my 300 th post,
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: suu_no_clover on May 27 2007, 11:31 am
x_x Asdfg. That was unexpected. "Foy" is alive? Syaoran's "unhealthy"? I'm so confused.

Fai's situation is reminding me of A and C's from Clover, a bit now that I think of it. Well, the whole one caged and one free aspect, anyway. Sorta. Yeaah.
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on May 27 2007, 12:14 pm
OK CLAMP want us to die hard with these surprises................... I really want to read chap 153....... The deep silence that Fay shows to every one is so.................. I want to know........ (I want to see the splash page with Xiao-Lang....... (still a Xiao fan jajajaja)).
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Kazemon15 on May 28 2007, 05:00 am
...I'm not even gonna say anything because I predicted all this to happen in my head...
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: ishiyaki on May 29 2007, 06:37 am
su chan has spoilers from154!!! they're a great impact!
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Airashii on May 29 2007, 06:53 am
post the link! please! Woohooh
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Tenkuuken on June 01 2007, 12:47 pm
Can somebody tell me again what Watanuki is doing in that glass tube?
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on June 03 2007, 04:17 am
Suchans spoilers
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fai s not fais name... O.o so he took his brothers name... I did that in an au fic. Fai took his brothers name for his middle name. Gues that means i predicted some thing...
*_*
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Smile_For_Me on June 03 2007, 05:00 am
*Twitch*......

Call back later because the brain that was funtioning is now broken down by CLAMP.

http://su-chan.livejournal.com/149474.html#cutid1

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I had an idea that having twins in Fay's world was a bad omen. Its like one's good and one's evil.
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on June 03 2007, 05:05 am
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This chapter (155) is going to be breathtaking!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Senefen on June 04 2007, 05:54 pm
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So the reason Fay (or should we say Yuuy) wants to travel between all the worlds is because he's afraid he'll bring misfortune to them if he stays too long and becomes attached and happy?
.... FayXHimawari OTP!

because I'm lazy this is copied from what I wrote at Su's
Royalty would find twins unlucky as twins tear countries apart. Whoever is born first inherits, but if the second born has a better capacity to rule baaaaaad things happen. There have been civil wars before because of this kind of thing.

So Fay and Yuuy have to be sad for the country to prosper? How horrible. And Fay blames himself for the country's destruction because he was happy maybe?

>"Ok, the one who left was A and A calls B Fay... so they left 'together' because the Fay we know is Yuui O_O;;;;"
So Yuuy too Fay's name when he left Celes? No it'd be before that cos Chii calls him Fay. When Fay died Yuuy took his name?

On the theory that Hokuto was their mother.
I cant see Hokuto, who sacrificed her life for her brother's, ever comdeming a child to such a terrible life. She would have tried to find another way or take their place.

GOOD LUCK ANIMATING THIS BEETRAIN! HA HA HA HA HA~
ooh i cant wait til they do the eye gouging arc

Why does one of the CLAMP twins always die?
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: ~Bloody_Rose~ on June 04 2007, 09:36 pm
T____T waaa... i actually regret that i read the spoilers.... it was so sad, and if i read the chapter without reading the spoilers, i might have cried while reading the chapter..

waaa... the impact of angst is lessen.. my fault.. darn it
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Meowzy on June 04 2007, 10:43 pm
I still don't get the spoilers at all. It's all way too hard to visualize, and the bad grammar doesn't make it better. I think I'll have to wait for the actual scans to understand exactly what was going on... ^^'

So was the kid an illusion or not?
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on June 05 2007, 03:31 am
i think its more or less real, but not "true" meaning he might be soulless.

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heh, ive heard rumours that someone will die in Celes.... well that could be fai then. the real one ofcourse OUR!Fai can still live on with kuro =D
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Post by: Kazemon15 on June 05 2007, 03:54 am
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So I knew Del-Rei's translations wasnt wrong...Fai is from royality which I had been expecting all along...O_O
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Smile_For_Me on June 05 2007, 07:11 am
LOL, DelRay was right, Also

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I might get bricked for this but BeeTrain must have had an Idea Fay, our Fay....jeeze this is just like the time with OSay and RSay.....0.0....All over again...grr...that Fay had a twin. I mean, they did have an epi that had Fay Vs. Ashura-ou, then Fay Vs. Fay....I'm so lost...
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Post by: Meowzy on June 05 2007, 09:00 pm
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I might get bricked for this but BeeTrain must have had an Idea Fay, our Fay had a twin. I mean, they did have an epi that had Fay Vs. Ashura-ou, then Fay Vs. Fay....I'm so lost...

Really? Which episode was that?
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Tatasenko on June 06 2007, 02:53 am
Su-chan has got a spoiler image for the chapter 155  :keke: !!!
And moreover this is about Fai and Yui together in imperial clothes  :wink:!!!
They are so CUTE that i can't help putting their lovely faces on my avatar,how such pure-hearted children could have been so much tortured  :dodge:?

(http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/7104/av20qp0.png) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/3889/151wm5om5.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Kazemon15 on June 06 2007, 04:05 am
Su-chan has got a spoiler image for the chapter 155  :keke: !!!
And moreover this is about Fai and Yui together in imperial clothes  :wink:!!!
They are so CUTE that i can't help putting their lovely faces on my avatar,how such pure-hearted children could have been so much tortured  :dodge:?

(http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/7104/av20qp0.png) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/3889/151wm5om5.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

They're so cute! I wanna hug them! Poor them...to think of all the stuff they went through...CLAMP is evil. Torturing them...but...of course...<_< most people who smile alot do tend to have a dark past and are the saddest...or that's what I think.
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Meowzy on June 06 2007, 04:09 am
Where did you find that image? I was looking all over the place, but can't find it...
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: vampifaied on June 06 2007, 08:27 am
i think its more or less real, but not "true" meaning he might be soulless.

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heh, ive heard rumours that someone will die in Celes.... well that could be fai then. the real one ofcourse OUR!Fai can still live on with kuro =D

o.o i hope no one does, surely CLAMP is not that heartless....
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on June 06 2007, 10:06 am
awwwww. so cute ;_;
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Tenkuuken on June 06 2007, 02:11 pm
Another chapter's out so soon... And now it's breaking me. T_T
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Smile_For_Me on June 06 2007, 03:01 pm
Aww so cute...

you know, I'm on a sugar run and this just hit me...please do not brick, its ment for fun.
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You know if your a twin in CLAMP's world, one or both of you will end up dead or are already dead....ok students, can you name all of CLAMP's works that have had twins, and what happened to them?---Also, if you do find any other twins of CLAMP, I would like to know.
--Class---........
Ok then, its offical, if your a twin, one of you must die...
Subaru and Hokuto (TB) looked at each other....Subaru crys..."No, Hokuto"
Subaru and Kamui (TRC) looked at each other....Subaru crys..."No, Kamui"
Kamui's like *.*..."WTF? I'm not even dead in X yet"
Subaru laughes. "You will be, because CLAMP loves me."
-_-...."Right..."
B and C (Clover)....Neither brother has a comment right now because they are on hold at the moment to be "who will be the first to die" act.
Fay and Yui(Fay) Fay looks over at Yui. "I give my life for you, and l'll blame you later...deal."
Yui blinks. "What kind of deal is that?"
Fay. "You can take my name."
Yui thinks for awhile. Smiles. Pushes brother off of cliff. Smiles. Yui looks at everyone.
"I'm Fay now."


...yeah..I try lighten the mood a bit
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on June 06 2007, 05:53 pm
lol.
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you forgot Freya and Chi (i forgot her real name. >_O) Freya died and gave her memories to her sister. 
Aww so cute...

you know, I'm on a sugar run and this just hit me...please do not brick, its ment for fun.
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You know if your a twin in CLAMP's world, one or both of you will end up dead or are already dead....ok students, can you name all of CLAMP's works that have had twins, and what happened to them?---Also, if you do find any other twins of CLAMP, I would like to know.
--Class---........
Ok then, its offical, if your a twin, one of you must die...
Subaru and Hokuto (TB) looked at each other....Subaru crys..."No, Hokuto"
Subaru and Kamui (TRC) looked at each other....Subaru crys..."No, Kamui"
Kamui's like *.*..."WTF? I'm not even dead in X yet"
Subaru laughes. "You will be, because CLAMP loves me."
-_-...."Right..."
B and C (Clover)....Neither brother has a comment right now because they are on hold at the moment to be "who will be the first to die" act.
Fay and Yui(Fay) Fay looks over at Yui. "I give my life for you, and l'll blame you later...deal."
Yui blinks. "What kind of deal is that?"
Fay. "You can take my name."
Yui thinks for awhile. Smiles. Pushes brother off of cliff. Smiles. Yui looks at everyone.
"I'm Fay now."


...yeah..I try lighten the mood a bit

Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Senefen on June 06 2007, 06:41 pm
Freya and Elda
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F: Bye bye Elda-chan! I'm gonna go die of broken incestuous heart then posess you
E: Noooooo~ Do no want
F: Dun worry you wont remember anything ^_^
E: Oh ok then ^_^
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Smile_For_Me on June 10 2007, 02:41 am
http://su-chan.livejournal.com/151430.html#cutid1

CLAMP, you do know how much pain your are causing?

Yui, hang in there
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Smile_For_Me on June 11 2007, 03:19 am

http://su-chan.livejournal.com/151430.html

The link above is for 156,

CLAMP is getting meaner.....brr

And I don't mean to double post
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Meowzy on June 11 2007, 09:52 pm
Awwww... That's so sad...
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on June 12 2007, 12:31 pm
This chapter is going to be so sad, not too heartbreaking like 155 but... is going to be sad...
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on June 16 2007, 11:15 pm
su-chan has the new spoilers....

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poor OUR!Fai.... his brother cared so much T__T
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Smile_For_Me on June 17 2007, 03:40 am
*Crys*

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I had an idea that Fay would have done that to save his older brother. Poor Yuui.

here is the link.

http://su-chan.livejournal.com/153504.html#cutid1
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on June 17 2007, 03:19 pm
Chapter 157 is going to be so confusing
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Smile_For_Me on June 24 2007, 11:55 am
aahhhhh, man, I knew this was coming!!!, here is the link for 158

http://su-chan.livejournal.com/154815.html#cutid1
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on June 24 2007, 01:28 pm
*sniffs* poor fai =(

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i cant wait til i can start reading TRC again.

<-has sworn off TRC till finish reading gravitation

the scene with fai huging his "little" brother, crying. =(

and kuro's reaction to fai's past....thatl be intrueging.

god, i hoipe we get some kurofainess in 159 or 160.
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on July 07 2007, 11:39 pm
holy lohly holy holy holy...

*stops breathing*

spoilers for 159 from su-chan....careful, they'll cause a brain seizure x_____x

(sorry, dont have the link on me ><)
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: vampifaied on July 08 2007, 05:42 am
holy lohly holy holy holy...

*stops breathing*

spoilers for 159 from su-chan....careful, they'll cause a brain seizure x_____x

(sorry, dont have the link on me ><)

0____________0 i agree ... omg.... i can't wait!!!
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: vampifaied on July 08 2007, 05:44 am
(i'm sorry for posting twice but here's the link for su-chan's spoilers :  http://su-chan.livejournal.com/156946.html
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on July 08 2007, 06:53 am
next time try the edit button. it exists again =3

now that ive had time to recoop:

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poor fai. i just hope kuro doesnt do something regretable =( i've seen one person totaly turn aainst fai for this v_v another person just says theyre not a fan of him right now, but the other person says fai desrves to die DX

on antoher note...fai likes long hair....he dint want a hair cut..very cute...maybe thats why he's let his hair grow long XD
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Post by: Smile_For_Me on July 08 2007, 10:05 am
Brain no longer works.....this is going to be one long chapter.....O man, I want to see it now, and the next one too.
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on July 09 2007, 01:14 am
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it's terrible (CLAMP is evil) I want 159, and also 160!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is going to be brethtaking

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So CXiao, Sakura and Fay(yuui) were the master pieces, ans Kurogane was the secret piece of Yuuko................
Ok, so, in orther to revive Fay, Yuui must kill kuro, and then do to Clow contry with Sakura's body and CXiao.....?!
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!! terrible, somebody must do something, I know Yuui is a good person, Sakura trust him...........
with all of this my head is going to explote!!!!!!!!

 :angry:
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Meowzy on July 09 2007, 04:07 am
Huh... I'm confused. Very confused.
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Post by: Yersi Fanel on July 10 2007, 05:51 pm
And what the heck is happening to Syaoran!!!!!.......
Okay, yes, I want to know what's going on with Kuro and Fai buy I can't help it, I like syaoran more...*coug*
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on July 14 2007, 12:30 pm
oh
my
god.

check su-chan's journal.
cant get hte link myself cuz her journal messes with my computer.

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why kuro?????? ;___;
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on July 14 2007, 03:26 pm
Chapter 160 spoilers, in ashura_sama lj
http://ashura-sama.livejournal.com/19731.html
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Post by: Meowzy on July 14 2007, 09:45 pm
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I think Kurogane is merely drawing his sword so he can beat the heck out of Yuui and snap him out of his emo mode. I mean, Kurogane tries to solve everything with violence, right? When he wanted 'Fay' to realize he should live, he almost throttled him. XD

So... That's where the tattoo came from. And what the D in Fay D. Fluorite stands for. Excellent!
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on July 14 2007, 11:39 pm
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i see alot of people crying that this chappter's killed kurofai.... kuro's NOT going to kill fai. beat him yes, but not murder!!!~ even tho the revelation of fai being working for FWR, kuro knows that fai had no choice at the age he was =(

untill i actually SEE kuro lay serious harm to fai/yuui.... ill never stop being a kurofai fangirl.... and even then, thats what AU is for: for when you dont like what the canon is =P

i'll mourn the loss, but ill never stop shipping
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Post by: ishiyaki on July 16 2007, 05:02 am
Oh my...what a
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love triangle!! KuroFai fans must to be happy XP Fai's promise is terrible...
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on July 16 2007, 06:54 am
Oh my...what a
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love triangle!! KuroFai fans must to be happy XP Fai's promise is terrible...

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not from what ive seen... ive seen atleat 3 people say that the chapters going to kill the kurofainess.... o yethey of little faith =P

i'll never give up on kurofai.
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Post by: Kazemon15 on July 17 2007, 08:51 am
Oh my...what a
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love triangle!! KuroFai fans must to be happy XP Fai's promise is terrible...

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Well, love triangles are seen in CLAMP's early work Magic Knight Rayearth...so obviously CLAMP believes one can love more than one person....which is why I don't agree with the whole soulmate thing...I kinda see it as a pissed off Kuro who wants to protect Syaoran, since knowing Fai, if he was supposed to kill Kuro, he's supposed to kill the real Syaoran too, so I doubt Kuro will let that happen.
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on July 22 2007, 06:41 am
spoilers for ch 161 are out!!! someone told me the ones on tc.net...

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ashura's true colors O_O!!!
and kuro's strenght =O
and fai's liking of alchohol XD
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Smile_For_Me on July 22 2007, 10:10 am
http://su-chan.livejournal.com/161488.html#cutid1

Spoiler's for 161.....WOW....
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on July 22 2007, 02:34 pm
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nead to read that chpter!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I want 161!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on July 22 2007, 03:54 pm
i might break my vow for this chapter...but then again, 161 comes out the day after i get my HP book, so ill wait till 162. besides the thing with ashura.... that sounds like a cliffhanger, and id rather not be haning off of one while trying to read harry potter XD
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Tenkuuken on July 22 2007, 04:21 pm
(reads the spoilers)

OMG I fail to log-in for a week and all this happens?!

(reads Chapter 160)

I was expectinmg Kuro-pon would punch Fai. :XD:
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on July 22 2007, 04:56 pm
so was i. io wanted kuro to clock fai for being stupid XD

but now with this...

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no we know why fai is so terrified of ashura!! it's endearing how no matter how evil ashura was, he didnt want to KILL him, becuase ashura was the first PERSON (not hand -_-) to show him kindness....

i wonder what this "creature" looks like? does it resemble the demon that dessimated suwa? (which im certain FWR commisioned) if so, kuro'd lose it :XD:

i also find it romantic almost that kuro's not stricking fai directly, just deflecting his attacks. knew kuro'd never intentionally harm fai (more than a punch) dont know WHY i was so worried =P
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Post by: Smile_For_Me on July 23 2007, 03:32 pm
Super Sailor Yue.....

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Ashura-ou is the "said" demon/monster....

and for HP...T_T

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You wish, I have yet to read the book myself....But you still clicked the spoiler
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on July 23 2007, 04:09 pm
resissts urge to look at HP spoiler..... im only up to

(click at your own risk)
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where harry et al got captured by greyback

as for the TRC spoioer, i guess i was confused by what the spoilers over at TC said. (not that i WENT there.... someone told me what was posted.
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Tenkuuken on July 25 2007, 01:42 pm
But of course by now Kuro-pu would think Fai has been lying to everyone since Day 1, which is probably why Yuko asked for the tattoo. Poor Sakura should be turning in her glass tube now.
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Post by: Smile_For_Me on July 28 2007, 01:47 pm
About the Tattoo....

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do you think Ashura-ou gave it to Fay/Yuui so that Ashura-ou would not kill him with whatever is controlling him?

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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on July 29 2007, 04:08 am
http://su-chan.livejournal.com/162677.html

O.O

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ashura is sneaky and coniving and mean.

kuro is smart, blunt and COOOOOOL X-D

ps, sounds like theres a kurofai moment in here =3
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Post by: Meowzy on July 29 2007, 10:34 pm
...?

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I knew there was something fishy about that tattoo!
But I still don't get its real objective. It will annull (loosen) the 'kill the one stronger than you' curse only if Fay kills Ashura, or what?

Poor Fay/Yuui... Getting shoved facefirst into the ground...

Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: vampifaied on July 30 2007, 07:14 am
oh i can't wait for this chapter to come out, but i'm not looking forward to the 3 Week break! p.q oh the suspense , according to the spoiler they leave it at a perfect cliffhanger.....poor fai
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on July 30 2007, 02:16 pm
This is going to ve a great chapter, but the same as vampifaied, the 3 week break.......................
It's going to be a great cliffhanger.............. 
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Tenkuuken on July 30 2007, 02:41 pm
The next chapter must come out! And then somebody's gotta kick Ashura's butt!
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Smile_For_Me on August 15 2007, 07:05 am
One more week......

Soooo, any idea's to what might happen?

Anyone?
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Kouichi on August 15 2007, 07:44 am
no idea I wish I did now and I can't wait O.O one more week..........
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 15 2007, 09:03 am
more flash backs probably, such as the actual confrontation that led fai into sealing aashura in the pool.
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Smile_For_Me on August 19 2007, 02:12 am
http://su-chan.livejournal.com/167349.html#cutid1

OMG the wait for 163 is almost over....also, Look for a comic link in Su-chan's home page.
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 19 2007, 04:21 am
i saw... omg aout it .____.

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its sweet that fai made chi look like his mom. would that make hideki his dad? XD

ashura said that fai is really gentle. like we always knew, ne? ^^

but ashura attacking sakura, AND kuro. NUUUUU!!!!!!!

gah. x__x
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Meowzy on August 19 2007, 05:21 am
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Kurogane, nooo! ;_;
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Post by: Kouichi on August 19 2007, 07:18 am
ahhh O.O I read them OMG 0.0 can't wait!
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Smile_For_Me on August 19 2007, 12:07 pm
Yeah, I know...but also in the chapter I think.....

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Chi has now  become a human, so she no longer has those cat ears anymore. And if Chi is modled after his mother, it would not be "Chi" at all, so that means her one and only is still alive, and we might see a TRC Ver. of him yet!!

But poor Sakura and Kurogane....I wonder how bad it is going for them....and Fay(Yuui), its about time you started to see things in the light.
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on August 20 2007, 12:58 am
I was OMG when I read the spoiler, I think there are to many emotions in only one chapter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I eant to have the chapter, 3 weeks with no tsubasa is dificult  >:D
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: tsuki on August 20 2007, 06:15 pm
OMG!!I was like O_O when read the spoiler!

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Waah~Kurogane & Sakura...NO~!!! *screams* But Ashura is so evil! >_< Now I really hate him.And Syaoran...Raiteishourai!Great,I wanna see this! O_O The hell!?Ashura's ice lance... >_< Yes!!We can see the great battle in Celes! (OMG,ice!) xD
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 25 2007, 11:27 pm
164 spoilers.....

http://su-chan.livejournal.com/169215.html

O__O

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Post by: Itzeen on August 26 2007, 12:10 am
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OK WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG, Yuui is really angry, maybe CXiao is going to appear soon.......... Xiao-Lang dying? someone, CLAMP explain that!!!!!!! and Kurogane's curse is activating? in a shield form? Tomoyo? OK, this chapter hast to much info!!!!!!! to much!!!!!!! THANKS CLAMP FOR TSUBASA!!!!!!
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 26 2007, 09:48 am
updated spoilers:

http://su-chan.livejournal.com/169345.html#cutid1

.__.

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waaah!!! i totaly loath ashura now., i hate him i hate him i hate him!!!

i no longer have reverations of writing him off as an evil raping bastard in my AU fic :mad:
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Tenkuuken on August 26 2007, 01:12 pm
Somebody better kill Ashura now. :XD:
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 26 2007, 03:04 pm
it takes ALOT for me to loath a character,
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IE seimei in loveless is an evil sadistic worm.
and ashura's just won himself a ticket there,
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Tenkuuken on August 26 2007, 04:03 pm
Thing is, Fai (Yuui) owes his life to both Kuro-pon and Ashura, but I'd guess he might actually strike Kuro-puu first just to catch Ashura off-guard. But then... Ouch.
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Post by: ishiyaki on August 27 2007, 04:13 am
oh my....that sword that
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is going against Ashura could be the little brother of Fai??? or CSyaoran??

how long I didn't post here!! I've been very busy, so I'm welcome!
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on August 27 2007, 05:24 am
Need to watch the scans................. to much info...................
OMG, OMGx10000000000
I want 164
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: redeternity on August 27 2007, 07:02 am
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oh, Fai says Sakura is hopeless o.O

But I'm confused. In the first lot of spoilers, somebody says they are going to die. Who says that - Fai or Syaoran??! ..It doesn't make that much sense for it to be Fai saying it, right? Nuuuuu, Syaoran don't die!!! ;_;

But then why doesn't the extended spoilers mention this at all? Is he dying or not??? Gah!
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Smile_For_Me on August 27 2007, 03:09 pm
About Tomoyo.....

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Her "none Killing spell" seems like a protection spell more then anything. You know if Kurogane's life is threatend, it activates to repell back to the sender......GO Tomoyo. Your TRC self just got more points in my book.

also.....
This is just crack in my tired mind.....pay no mind other then there are spoilers too. This is just ment for fun.


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Fay(Yuui) X Chi: 0--Dude, I thought he would have based her off of a relation of his. I just thought sister, not mother.
Kurogane X Fay(Yuui): 2--One for the Vampire/Bait deal, Two for the "Kurogane keeping his head"--for those who read "X", you know what I mean--in the whole thing, and only coming out with a "cut" to the side..... I know a third one will show up soon.
Kurogane X Tomoyo: 3--One for her sending Kurogane off to his "self-finding" journey. Two for her seal of "No Killing" seems to just only be an order and the seal is ment for protection.(Basicly, she tricked him throught out the whole manga till now) Three, Saving Kurogane like three times already, maybe more.....

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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 28 2007, 02:32 am
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i had thought of tomoyo tricking kuro too. she SAID it would take his strength but all it did was save his life from mortal peril. ^^ it would be SO like her to do that!
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Tenkuuken on August 28 2007, 09:44 pm
Somebody's gonna die, I knew it! T_T
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: redeternity on September 01 2007, 09:20 pm
Chapter 165 spoilers up! http://su-chan.livejournal.com/171912.html

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Ahh! I can't take it anymore! What is that second curse??!
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 01 2007, 10:24 pm
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i KNEW something bad would happen the mment ashura died. =_=

i wonder what meories fai had left for them?
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Tenkuuken on September 01 2007, 11:30 pm
Lemme guess, Yuui has to kill Fay now?!
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: redeternity on September 02 2007, 01:41 am
Detailed spoilers -> http://su-chan.livejournal.com/172239.html

I don't get it. Is Sakura getting Fai's memories?
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Post by: Meowzy on September 02 2007, 08:43 am
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Hmm... That second curse is weird... I wonder what exactly it is...

Anywho... Fay/Kuro, anyone? XD
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on September 02 2007, 01:21 pm
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OK, can somebody explain again the 2nd curse, I really didn't understand well the 1st time they explain it............... and what realation have the 2nd curse with ashura?

But explain step by step the 2nd curse.......... (WTF I hate when I get lost in the stories)

(Finally Kurogane kill that "weird bloody happy face"
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Smile_For_Me on September 02 2007, 03:42 pm
I so can not wait for next chapter!!!

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Wow, so 156 to 158 should finish the Celes arch................I wonder what world is next....if its Noin, Japan....that will be to crule....
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 02 2007, 04:35 pm
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atleast with the fourite feather in sakura's body, the possibility of her body dying is lessoned? since the feathers are part of her soul, sould that count?

and as much as a loathed ashura before, he's somewhat redeemed for simpy trying to protect fai. i still hate him and he;s still an evil sadistic sick twisted psycho bas**rd, but, yeah :-/

Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Smile_For_Me on September 09 2007, 03:24 am
http://su-chan.livejournal.com/173319.html#cutid1

166
....................................... ...........................
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Kurogane in # 2 on the missing arm list of CLAMP. # 1 for still being alive....but WTF!?
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Smile_For_Me on September 10 2007, 01:00 am
http://su-chan.livejournal.com/173783.html#cutid1

Major spoiler for 166 Do not read unless you want to be spoiled big time

OMG......the spoiler's are true......Kurogane don't
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Don't die and bleed to death........so the magic circle was a trap....and they only way to save the last person, Yuui, was to leave a part of him, Kurogane's left arm, the one with the scar, as an exchange......OK, and I thought Sakura went fullmetal on us with her leg, but a least she still has that.....Kurogane has no arm below the shoulder....Yuui's Eye.......what are the going to ask from Sayoran and Mokona? A noise and an ear?
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 10 2007, 01:27 pm
i saw.. O___O
this is my new icon because of it:

http://userpic.livejournal.com/65928234/10577629
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Smile_For_Me on September 19 2007, 02:07 am
9/26 will be color pages.......hehe......I wonder what CLAMP will draw and color for 167....
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 19 2007, 03:22 am
one of htem HAS to have kurogane! they did a large splash of fai right after he became a vampire, so yeah.
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Post by: Airashii on September 20 2007, 05:56 am
Yeah, they can do it a bit angsty, without
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his arm[/spoilers] and Fai besides him looking sad, trying to cure him, something like that.
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Post by: ishiyaki on September 21 2007, 12:42 am
I've read in another forums that Kurogane
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cut his arm because it still had Fai's magic and
he may think it could be useful to save Fai
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Smile_For_Me on September 21 2007, 12:21 pm
That could be true ishiyaki, balance out the power in away
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Post by: ishiyaki on September 21 2007, 09:25 pm
That could be true ishiyaki, balance out the power in away
but what I can't understand is why Kurogane
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doesn't seem to feel the "injure" :icon_scratch:
he has made himself...
 IT REALLY
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HURTS!!!!
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 21 2007, 11:58 pm
andrenaline can do alot to numb your body. and kurogane's was at an extremely high amount at the thought of losing fai, as well as after whats been happening..., so he didnt feel it at the time. im sure once they land kurognae will pass out from shock.
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Post by: ~Bloody_Rose~ on September 22 2007, 12:19 pm
and kurogane's was at an extremely high amount at the thought of losing fai
yue-san....
i don't know why but that made me smile <33

anyways,
ch 167 spoiler are up
http://su-chan.livejournal.com/177611.html#cutid1
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 22 2007, 10:07 pm
oh, you posted them. but you didnt say anything?

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KURO-NICKS!!!!! and the first one to use is my all time fav  :icon_cheers:

but the worst part is that thyre in nihon. i SO didnt want them to go there  :sad5:
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: ~Bloody_Rose~ on September 22 2007, 11:16 pm
^ ahahaha ^^;;

that's because i didn't read them :XD: i don't want to be spoiled ^^;;
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: ishiyaki on September 22 2007, 11:39 pm
167 SPOILERS!!!!!!!

http://su-chan.livejournal.com/177611.html#cutid1
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 23 2007, 02:55 am
the detailed ones are teh <3
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i so wanna see fai in the kimono bonking Kuro Sama =D
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Post by: householddutch on September 23 2007, 04:56 am
oh no...
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Watanuki? that's not good; I'm so far behind in xxxholic and I don't wanna spoil (for holic, anyway) myself. Where do you guys get your xxxholic anyway?
<3 Fay
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CANON!! *floats away*
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 23 2007, 05:34 am
householddutech... *Pokes siggie* just click the manga of choice in my sig to get thew manga
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Post by: Itzeen on September 23 2007, 09:26 am
I want to read the chapter now!!!!!
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WOW in Nihon now!!!! I want to see everybody in Kimono, and also the face that has Kuro after Fay punch him
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Post by: Meowzy on September 24 2007, 03:32 am
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I'm only up to chapter 144 in XXXholic. When did Watanuki get in Kurogane's world?

Also, did I misread this, or... does Fay whack Kurogane with his own severed arm? O_o

CANOOON!~
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 24 2007, 03:48 am
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ew god no XD  its fai's own hand that wacks kuro.

also, i have the full script of the chapter posted on msn from ashura-sama's LJ... should the next thread be posted yet?
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Post by: Meowzy on September 24 2007, 04:12 am
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ew god no XD  its fai's own hand that wacks kuro.

Oh, thank goodness. The way it was worded on Su-chan's journal, I got nasty mental images. ^^'
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: householddutch on September 24 2007, 09:09 am
ohhh, thanks  Super Sailor Yue!! I didn't notice that before  :heh:
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Post by: Smile_For_Me on September 24 2007, 10:39 am
Yeah, I had the same Idea when I read that to LOL,
But I can not wait for 167 to come out...hehe
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Smile_For_Me on September 29 2007, 09:27 pm
168

uh....

http://su-chan.livejournal.com/178689.html#cutid1
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: redeternity on September 29 2007, 10:09 pm
Better spoilers (they make more sense) -> http://www.tsubasachronicle.net/forums/showthread.php?t=5463

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I'm so upset. I was really excited about this chapter, thinking we'd at least learn something about R!Syaoran.. no such luck ;_;
What's worse, his conversation with Watanuki in the dream world is already over.. just like that! Does this mean more Kurogane and Fai in 169 whilst R!Syaoran stands quietly in the background.. again?? *sobs*

Maybe...... Maybe Yuuko's 7 pages will tell us something we don't know already..?
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Meowzy on September 29 2007, 11:19 pm
... Sounds like a bit of a pointless chapter, to me. They're not really saying anything new, are they?
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 29 2007, 11:39 pm
another boring chapter. i hope we get ONE panel of kuro and fai =/
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on September 30 2007, 05:13 am
To much info in this chapter and less action

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I want to know about the 7 pages of yuuko's speach (What's the relationship between RXiao and Watanuki, Is someone of the future and someone of the pas? family? what kind?
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 30 2007, 06:26 am
well one things for certain about it.

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Rsyao says he has a father, whereas CCS syao's father is never mentioned. so atleast thats good in that sense =/
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Post by: Smile_For_Me on September 30 2007, 07:37 am
I thought

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CCS Sayoran said his father was dead....

Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on October 01 2007, 05:16 am
ah, well im only knowledged with the cardcaptors anime. >_O so im rather clueless with cardcaptor sakura stuff.

other spoilers:
http://aniki-kurai.livejournal.com/18853.html

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so tomoyo paid for them to go to nihon? cool.
and FWR is totaly clueless that his curse failed? awsome XD
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on October 13 2007, 11:47 pm
http://su-chan.livejournal.com/180329.html#cutid1

spoilers 1

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i dont kno wether to be happy or sad!

semi disapointed that kuro gets an arm.
semi happy that fai finaly does a little sacrifice for ht mand he loves kurogane

the appearance of those 2.... doesnt really excite me. unless kuro has to protect fai, then ill be happy
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Post by: Smile_For_Me on October 14 2007, 05:42 am
Wow......

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Fullmetal Kurogane jokes are going to be flying around like crazy even more so.....

Not to metion

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Sei-san shows up, Fumma, Yuuko, Tomoyo's older sister, I can just keep on going from here. Also, even the Piffle World Tomoyo is mentioned.....I wonder what she thought when she heard Kurogane lost an arm.

Good times are back.....I hope
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on October 14 2007, 05:52 am
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tho im decidedly disapointed that kuro's no longer hndicapped, and fai wont have to feed him... 2 arms are better for cuddling. and it comming from piffle means it mnight be more realistic. like nano tech or sometning XD
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Post by: Meowzy on October 14 2007, 06:51 am
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Kurogane: How about some equivalent exchange? *smirk*
Yuuko: Isn't that my line?

Oh, the Fullmetal jokes indeed.
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on October 14 2007, 07:39 am
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more spoilers over at TC


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darnit. it IS a mecha arm, because fuuma got lazy <_<

i love fai's line tho. <3
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on October 20 2007, 11:47 pm
spoilers!
http://su-chan.livejournal.com/181416.html#cutid1
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Post by: redeternity on October 21 2007, 02:50 am
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First off.. Aha! So I was right in thinking that maybe Syaoran would fight him for the feather, yay! ^___^ *excited*

That said, though...  I have very mixed feelings for this chapter. I am very, very, worried about the cover. Is it really going to be CCS!Sakura with Syaoran? If so.. I will seriously.. argh!! No, please.. NO.. *weeps* ..R!Syaoran can't be CCS!Syaoran.. He just can’t be.. ;_; Surely they wouldn’t reveal something like that just from a cover..? It better be that the spoiler guy interpreted it wrong.. or that TRC Sakura is simply wearing some kind of CCS-esque costume.. or something. But even then people will say that it’s definitely CCS!Sakura because of that.. and the annoying CCS!Syaoran = R!Syaoran theorists will become 10 times more annoying..! Woe.

ARGH. I feel like kicking something..
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on October 21 2007, 03:50 am
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so much like the kamui-subaru being twin bros, they made seishrio and fuuma brothers as well. interesting. XP
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Post by: Itzeen on October 22 2007, 02:22 am
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I really hope so that the cover ar niot really CCS Saura & Xiao-Lang!!!!!!
pleas explane that to me..............

That said, though...  I have very mixed feelings for this chapter. I am very, very, worried about the cover. Is it really going to be CCS!Sakura with Syaoran? If so.. I will seriously.. argh!! No, please.. NO.. *weeps* ..R!Syaoran can't be CCS!Syaoran.. He just can’t be.. ;_; Surely they wouldn’t reveal something like that just from a cover..? It better be that the spoiler guy interpreted it wrong.. or that TRC Sakura is simply wearing some kind of CCS-esque costume.. or something. But even then people will say that it’s definitely CCS!Sakura because of that.. and the annoying CCS!Syaoran = R!Syaoran theorists will become 10 times more annoying..! Woe.
ARGH. I feel like kicking something..

I have tha same feeling as redeternity!!!!!!!!!!! OMG, CLAMP is it really going to reveal something important in a cover?!
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on October 27 2007, 11:46 pm
http://su-chan.livejournal.com/183060.html#cutid1

*fangasm*
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tomoyo's wedding gift was wonderful

and fai crying for kuro. awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww


kekeke. instead of a spoiler tag, i started with a tomoyo tag.  :heh:
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Post by: Smile_For_Me on October 28 2007, 05:12 pm
OMG 171 rules
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Post by: Itzeen on October 28 2007, 05:41 pm
OMG....................
Speachless, confused............
I really need to read the chapter...... (I want 171 now!!!!!)
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Post by: G_chaN on October 29 2007, 02:28 am
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What?! Syaoran gets stabbed??
Hwaaaahhh.... I need the next chapter right now...
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 03 2007, 07:46 am
su-chan said she couldnt do it this week, so the spoilers are over at cloud9_alice's jornal, http://cloud9-alice.livejournal.com/37739.html#cutid1
 but cuz it's friendlcked... you can also veiw them here: http://tinyurl.com/yonn2w
=3

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tomoyo's redeeming ashura even more XD. so he was a dreamseer, and during his long sleep he tried to find a way to save fai? >.> he still did evil things, but it WAS for fai's safety. >.< now im confued on how i feel of him...
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Post by: redeternity on November 03 2007, 08:37 am
umm... if it's friend locked then how come I can view it? :/
but wow.. really early this week..!

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LOL Raitei Shourai again, eh, Syaoran? (as much as I love it, let's see a different move please, CLAMP)

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I can't lose!! For my beloved one

WOW!! "Beloved"!!!? That can only mean TRC!Sakura, right?? He wouldn't be fighting for the feather for the sake of anyone else, so it must be her that's referring to! :o
*very happy* =D
But what about the "for two of oneself"? Watanuki? Or C!Syaoran? But why would he be getting the feather for their sake?

Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 03 2007, 09:25 am
well alice usually has her journal FLed... but maybe that entry isnt?
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on November 11 2007, 06:55 am
173 spoilers!!!!! here!!!!!
http://community.livejournal.com/clamp_now/283105.html#cutid2

(include xxxHolic 145 spoilers)

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OK I want to say to TRC & xxxHolic spoilers OMG..... both of them are like the same.... they end the same image.... (sort of)
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Post by: fera713 on November 16 2007, 11:51 am
could one of you tell me what manga chapter the anime leaves off at? plz.
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Post by: Itzeen on November 18 2007, 01:46 am
Spoilers for chapter 174!!!!!!! by herenia, here's the link also http://herinia.livejournal.com/24020.html
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147 信じるべき道
Chapter 174 Path that you should believe

夢の世界に入る真。メガネと桜と対面。そして現れるコピー。
R!Syaoran enters the dream world, and meets "glasses" (you mean Watanuki? who else wears glasses?) and Sakura. Then C!Syaoran appears.
その勢いで夢の世界から消えるめがね。羽を求め戦う二人の小狼。
"Glasses" was forced to disappear from the dream world.
The two Syaos fight to search for the feather.
真「おまえはオレ自身だから・・・この手で・・・終わらせる」
R!Syao: "Because you are me myself...I'll end this...with this hand"

Also here by Clamp now http://community.livejournal.com/clamp_now/285787.html#cutid2
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 18 2007, 02:43 am
funny y how su-chan's are sooo biased XD she made hers unreadable...

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anyways, so i guess hte bloody hand in holic was csyaos v_v and i was hoping that he's saveable, unless the bloody hand was rsyaos =|
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Post by: redeternity on November 18 2007, 09:48 am
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I presumed from the Holic spoilers it would be Cloney and this confirms it.. *sigh* I love Cloney and all and I'm anxiously looking forward to the fight but.. I was hoping that R!Syaoran and Sakura would have a chance to talk to each other properly for once. No such luck.

funny y how su-chan's are sooo biased XD she made hers unreadable...

She's really so immature.
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Post by: Itzeen on November 20 2007, 10:26 am
174 Clone make his apearance!!!!!! I cant' wait to read!!!!!!!!!! I want to se the drawings!!!!
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Post by: Smile_For_Me on November 20 2007, 01:08 pm
Yeah, I missed are MIA friend....
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Post by: Itzeen on November 26 2007, 08:33 am
................. 2weeks break.......................
I really want to know what's going to happen in chapter 175............ and of course the colored pages...............
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Post by: Itzeen on December 01 2007, 11:13 pm
TRC SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
here's the link to 175 Spoilers!!!! http://ashura-sama.livejournal.com/29689.html
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on December 09 2007, 03:51 am
176 spoilers:

http://ashura-sama.livejournal.com/30445.html

short but o so very sweet. i LOVE the plot twists.
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yay. theres some hope for cloney after all ^^
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Post by: Itzeen on December 10 2007, 02:54 am
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Body memories...............
I want to read the chapter!!!!!
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Post by: Itzeen on December 23 2007, 05:00 pm
Be prepared!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
spoiler for 177!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A BIG CLIFFHANGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.tsubasachronicle.net/forums/showthread.php?t=5752

a great xmas present from CLAMP
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: cherrybloms on January 05 2008, 09:18 pm
Here New Chapter:
178 もう一つの罠
One more trap

羽を求め二人のシャオランが手を伸ばし剣を互いの心臓に突き刺そうとする
The both guys request the feahter and both of them extend their hands and they have the intention to mutually stab in the heart (it i says 'mutually')

そこに割って入る影、剣が交錯、コピーが貫いたのは真を庇う形で飛び込んださくらの心臓。
forcing their way towards their 'shadows', the swords get mixed (blended ?¿?) Copy pierces and Real is protected by Sakura's heart.

刺した手がふるえるコピー。
Copy's piercing hand trembles (easy to imagine, like Fay did)

真「さくら!!」首をふるさくら「貴方のさくらはわたしじゃない」
Real: Sakura!! Sakura's neck falls 'I'm not your Sakura'

回想スタート 顎とセイランの会話
Flash back: AssChin and 'Seiran' conversation (WHO is Seiran???)

星「姫にも写し身を?」
Sei??? You also copied the princes? (SORRY, but LOL!!!!)

「姫の躰には事件の記憶を刻む旅へ出てもらう」
The princes body is gonna receive the memories of the travel


「だがもうひとつの役割に生きていてもらわねばならん」
She has to have another role alive

「旅立つのは写身だ、これならたとえ死んでも躰だけこのクロウ国に戻ればいい」
A copy will go to the travel. So even if she dies only the body is needed return to this clow country


「記憶を羽に変えて様々な次元に飛び散らせる。あの写身は姫の命を救うためだと信じて旅立つだろう」
The feather momories will fly to several dimensions. In order to believe into protect the princes life the copy will start the travel


「その姫も写されたものだとは知らずに」
He (or she) has not to know that the the princes was also copied

「次元を越える力 行方を指し示す翼 我が願いを叶えるもの 今その力がよみがえる」
By traveling dimensions my wish will come true. Now that strengh is being rehabilitated.


コピーさくらには最後躰を明け渡すことを拒否せぬよう術をかけとくか
Copy has not to reject the end of the body (I think if the soul dies, the body dies so ... AT LEAST ONE OF THE SAKURAS SEEMS TO BE DEAD... the problem is that there are more :-/)


しかし失敗、まあいいすべてはこれからだ、こんな失敗作ではなく とハーレムを見る
However a mistake, all the harem of failed works is seeing that (hey, so the harem is still there)


「すべてが終わったときこの手に時空を越える力が手に入る」
In the moment that hand finishes I'll get the power to cross dimensions.

What A Really Mess Chapter :confused2:and it is so :'( :'( :cry:i can't belive that
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: cherrybloms on January 05 2008, 09:23 pm
here better one
178 もう一つの罠
Chapter 178 Another trap

羽を求め二人のシャオランが手を伸ばし剣を互いの心臓に突き刺そうとする
The two Syaorans both try to reach the feather, while both are trying to stab each other in the heart.

そこに割って入る影、剣が交錯、コピーが貫いたのは真を庇う形で飛び込んださくらの心臓。
At the moment that the swords meet, the one that C!Syao pierced is Sakura's heart(chest), who sneaked in to protect R!Syao.

刺した手がふるえるコピー。真「さくら!!」首をふるさくら「貴方のさくらはわたしじゃない」
C!Syao's hand/arm shivers.
R!Syao "Sakura!!"
Sakura shakes her head. "Your Sakura is not me."

回想スタート
Flashback starts.

顎とセイランの会話
FWR with someone's(Seiran=Seishirou?) conversation...

星「姫にも写し身を?」「姫の躰には事件の記憶を刻む旅へ出てもらう」 「だがもうひとつの役割に生きていてもらわねばならん」
Sei "To also clone the princess's body?/To the princess's cloned body?" (not sure)
"The princess's body will leave for the journey to record the memories"
"But there's another role for it..." -skip line, totally not sure-

「旅立つのは写身だ、これならたとえ死んでも躰だけこのクロウ国に戻ればいい」
"The part that has to go to the journey is the body, so even if it dies, as long as it returns to Clow Country then it's fine."

「記憶を羽に変えて様々な次元に飛び散らせる。あの写身は姫の命を救うためだと信じて旅立つだ ろう」
"The memories were turned into feathers and scattered around the dimensions. I believed that copied body was to save the princess's life and leave for the journey."

「その姫も写されたものだとは知らずに」
"That princess had no knowledge that she was copied."

「次元を越える力 行方を指し示す翼 我が願いを叶えるもの 今その力がよみがえる」
"The power that crosses dimensions, the wings that indicate the whereabouts. The thing that will grant my wish, now, that power is going to be awakened."

コピーさくらには最後躰を明け渡すことを拒否せぬよう術をかけとくか
-skip line-

しかし失敗、まあいいすべてはこれからだ、こんな失敗作ではなく とハーレムを見る
But it fails, -skip line-

「すべてが終わったときこの手に時空を越える力が手に入る」
"At the moment that everything ends, this hand will obtain the power that crosses(or surpasses?) time and dimensions."

■明かされた「ツバサ」の謎!囚われの干物辿る運命とは!?
Teasers:
The revealed mystery of "tsubasa"! What will be the fate of the captured prey!? (it literally translated as dried goods instead of prey, but you get the idea...)

They Just Fight Until Death For Feathers Of Clone Body :cry: :'( :'(
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Smile_For_Me on January 05 2008, 10:04 pm
 Could Seiran be Kyle? Or a new character all together?
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Post by: Tsuki-kun on January 06 2008, 02:12 am
WTF???
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Sakura has a clone to!!??

I think I'm going to have a headache..
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on January 06 2008, 08:34 am
ashura's  say fwr was talking to xing hou
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Post by: cherrybloms on January 06 2008, 03:18 pm
yeah,in ashura-sama journal,it's say fwr and xing hou.this chapter is so confusig,sakura is clone all this time and why fwr want the real oe in clow country?and where is real sakura?is she sleeping in ruins?and is sakura soul is real,how her body clone? ??? ???i know when it change to clone (i think)in chapter 1 when she saw future seen,she changed or when she was in ruins and have wings when syaoran is going to carch her,she changed into clone.oh that's why in tokyo ,when she is fighting,she didn't fell very pain because she is clone,right?Clamp is get me so  :confused2: :o
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on January 06 2008, 04:10 pm
fwr having a harem of failed sakura clones.... it just sounds.... CREEPY.
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Post by: Itzeen on January 08 2008, 11:51 am
The harem stuff sounds like evangelion (remeber al the Rei clones.... but that is another story)
OK hte queston of the 64,000!!!! WTF!!!!!!! Somebody can explain me this...... and where is the real Sakura........ OMG CLAMP explote my head.... so ther is a CXiao and a CSakura, both fell in love (Hope so) and ther is a RXiao and RSakura.... that we didn't know anything!!!!!!!!
I rally want to read the chapter.... I ned a lot of explanations....
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on January 08 2008, 12:05 pm
looks like were STILL going to have to wit on finding out about rsyao. now we get to learn about csakura. and maybe more on csyao.
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Post by: cherrybloms on January 09 2008, 08:09 am
i have bad news,alic deleted her journal :cry:and we don't know how to see new chapter until now so if anyone found scans,please we want it
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on January 09 2008, 08:54 am
we can go back  to waiting for ladydarkmoon's scans =( or see if somoene else gets a subscription to the magazime...
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Post by: Kazemon15 on January 09 2008, 11:56 am
....I'm going to try and stop predicting things which are always right. First, I predicted Fai had a twin, then Syaoran was not "real", and then I predicted....this Sakura is a clone....>< :X Im just gonna stop seeping into CLAMP's brain, lol.
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Post by: cherrybloms on January 13 2008, 06:39 am
Spoilers of New Chapter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chapitre 179
Two replicas

Cover: Fei Wang.

Sakura-replica's (soul) breath goes out inside the clone's chest. (T/N: I don't understand this sentence very well. "Inside" the clone's chest, what the heck?)
Kyle appears from a dimensional hole and steals Sakura-replica (body).
Shaoran, as well as everyone in Nihon-koku, can't move because of the black substance.
The clone turns up missing too.
from bara-san
Oh My Kyle Stole sakura body :cry:and i think they are going to fei wang world
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Post by: Itzeen on January 16 2008, 04:32 am
OK I hope that the "Sakura-replica's (soul)goes out inside the clone's chest" ... the shock of him "killing Sakura" to create a heart of his own, sometimes big sacrifices has to be make to do better things... (thinking like CLAMP, hope that I'm not mistaken) in other part.... where are we going to have the scans of the new chapters... did anyone knows???
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on January 16 2008, 09:02 am
OK I hope that the "Sakura-replica's (soul)goes out inside the clone's chest" ... the shock of him "killing Sakura" to create a heart of his own, sometimes big sacrifices has to be make to do better things... (thinking like CLAMP, hope that I'm not mistaken) in other part.... where are we going to have the scans of the new chapters... did anyone knows???
well with that, i see it as similar to what happened with fai... when the curse activated, fai was more or less mindless puppet... but when he stabbed sakura, he snapped out of it imediatly, so that could happen with syaoran. (but i hope he's strong enough not to lose it completly like fai almost did.)

as for the scans, witout alice... thees no clue. maybe the person who did it before would do it again, or we'll wait for ladydarkmoon...
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Post by: Itzeen on January 21 2008, 01:35 pm
Here ashura_sama has the spoilers of chapter 180
http://ashura-sama.livejournal.com/33469.html#cutid1
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Post by: Møon Li on January 21 2008, 08:26 pm

 OMG... when's the next chapter out??
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Post by: Itzeen on January 22 2008, 11:44 am
OMG... when's the next chapter out??

the 23th!!!!!! two more days to wait!!!!!
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Post by: cherrybloms on January 27 2008, 12:14 am
here 181 spoilers
HERE @ herinia's LJ!

Eta: And again @ Neither's LJ
................ :cry:
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on January 27 2008, 01:26 am
links?

they are at ashura-sama's su-chan's and hernia's...


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... the person who made the wish... its possibly watanuki.... it would make sence, since he said he cant remember anything beyond doumeki and himiwari and the spirit friends.

as for what FWR said about sakura.... ._. wtf
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Post by: RenaRyuugu on January 27 2008, 12:20 pm
....I'm going to try and stop predicting things which are always right. First, I predicted Fai had a twin, then Syaoran was not "real", and then I predicted....this Sakura is a clone....>< :X Im just gonna stop seeping into CLAMP's brain, lol.

continue to predict  XD well anway, how many clones are they going to make? im starting to get a headache >_<
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on January 27 2008, 02:55 pm
now that sakura has a clone, even tho short lived, i wonder if CLAMP will decide to bring HER nto the horitsuba-verse? what would her name be, and what would her story be/ XDD
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Post by: Kazemon15 on January 27 2008, 07:46 pm
continue to predict  XD well anway, how many clones are they going to make? im starting to get a headache >_<

XDD

.... :X .....I'm not sure, but I have a bad feeling... CLAMP stated Sakura and Syaoran would have a happy ending......but they didnt state WHICH Sakura and Syaoran would have a happy ending.... DX
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Post by: RenaRyuugu on January 27 2008, 10:40 pm
aww.... then what about fay and kuro-pu? im curious about who the real syaoran is anyway ._.
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Post by: Itzeen on February 03 2008, 09:07 am
182 Spoiler!!!!!
by Su-chan

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Chapitre.182 誓いの夜
The night's vow

黒鋼の父の形見だったもう一つの銀竜。
One more Kuro's father Ginryuu (LOL! more clones XD )

母親の遺志により、埋葬されず知世姫の元にとどめられていた。
It was not buried with Kuro's mother and Tomoyo keept it

父上の刀にかけて、知世姫に忠誠と帰還を誓う。
Kuro swears to return his dad sword to Tomoyo (to bury it I assume)

そんな黒鋼に、知世姫は「鷹王(ようおう)」の名を与えた。
Tomoyo gives him the 'Falcon king' name as a present

同じ夜。ユゥイと真小狼は、とりとめのない話をしていた。
The same night Fay and Syao had a talk (vague or incoherent, it is とりとめのない)

決戦の日。
The day of the final battle

ユゥイと黒鋼は、旅立ったときと同じ服を身にまとっていた。
Fay and Kuro wore the same clothes when they started the journey.


真小狼も、やはりコピーが玖楼国を逃れたときの服を。
Real Syao wears the clothes that copy wore when they escaped from Clow country (look the clothes problem has been solved)

四月一日の記憶を対価に得たケツアゴの居場所。
With Wata's payment they got FWR whereabouts


この機を逃すわけには、いかない。
They can't let the oppoturnity to escape
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: cherrybloms on February 03 2008, 03:55 pm
yeah,i predict the chapter right,i like this chapter sp much
Edit: Spoilers also available at Neither's LJ.
Edit 2: Extended spoilers at herinia's LJ
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on February 04 2008, 11:07 am
Edit: Spoilers also available at Neither's LJ.
Edit 2: Extended spoilers at herinia's LJ

here are the links
http://herinia.livejournal.com/29204.html#cutid1
http://ashura-sama.livejournal.com/34623.html#cutid1
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Post by: Kazemon15 on February 04 2008, 05:07 pm
I can't wait to see the scans...

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Yay for KuroTomo goodness! XD
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on February 14 2008, 01:27 pm
OK.......... 15 days for the new chapter, new volume and a new worls (every thing is new)................................ how can I survive????? I just have to wait!!!!
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Post by: Smile_For_Me on February 24 2008, 03:05 am
http://ashura-sama.livejournal.com/35924.html

here is the latest one...
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Post by: Itzeen on February 24 2008, 07:18 am
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I really think the spoilers need more detail
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Colored pages!!!!!
Fai, Kurogane and both Couples of Sakura & Xiao-Lang (clone-real)
CLAMP is grate
...................... but 11 peges of yuko dancing........... I really want to see that
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Post by: Itzeen on March 02 2008, 08:02 am
184 Spoilers
http://ashura-sama.livejournal.com/36758.html
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For what I read, I think the guys are traped in a loop. This chapter remebered me one chapter of DGM, when Allen and Leenale are traped in the stop time town, I think that the Tsubasa guys are going to pass for the same thing, I think is a trapt from FWR!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on March 19 2008, 03:16 pm
185 spoilers
nothing interesting happends here
http://su-chan.livejournal.com/198383.html
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: JediRiff on March 25 2008, 04:06 am
Yea, I'm seriously confused by the C!Sakura twist and I was hoping someone might clarify this for me.

So we don't know where R!Sakura is, but all along (since day one back at the very beginning in Ch1 when everyone lived peacefully in Clow Country and thought they were the real version of themselves) C!Sakura has been the only one we've seen, right? We also know the FWR and Clow Reed have been trying to stop each other's plans for a long time now. But if the Sakura who lived in Clow Country with her "father" was always C!Sakura, why is it that Clow Reed never noticed she was a clone, or if he did notice, did he not do anything since it was part of FWR's plans? Or am I mistaken and either that really was R!Sakura living in Clow Country when she was young or that wasn't really Clow Reed who used to be king of Clow Country...?

Anyway, hope someone can clear that up Xx
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Post by: Smile_For_Me on March 25 2008, 12:08 pm
To JediRiff

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CSakura was "born" when the RSakura was having her memory taken from her. RSakura lived in Clow world till the day she lost her wings, FWR did have RSakura's body, but some how lost it, and only had RSakura's soul. In the process, the CSakura would travel from world to world, gaining body of memories. Once the Soul, of CSakura died, FWR will put RSakura's soul into the clone.

I hope this helps?
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: JediRiff on March 28 2008, 04:18 pm
Yes, that clears things up greatly, thank you =)
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on March 30 2008, 05:15 am
spoiler from 186, thanks to Ashura_sama

http://ashura-sama.livejournal.com/38809.html#cutid1
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: JediRiff on March 31 2008, 06:59 am
Reading the spoiler, I am in "Wtf" mode as well.
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on April 06 2008, 01:02 am
Here is the spoiler to chapter 187
http://ashura-sama.livejournal.com/39515.html#cutid1
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Post by: Smile_For_Me on April 17 2008, 02:40 am
Sorry no 188 this week. Next week though.....

What I am waiting for is this

Tsubasa -RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE- ~ [Shonen Magazine - weekly chapters]
~break 4/16, double issue 4/23~

What is this double issue? I can't wait.
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: gara_to on April 21 2008, 12:31 am
I want it to be double chapters but i know it won't happen. I think the double issue only means for the magazine itself.  :)
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Post by: Tatasenko on April 21 2008, 03:49 am
I want it to be double chapters but i know it won't happen. I think the double issue only means for the magazine itself.  :)

according to the recents rumors,this "double issue" refers to a paradoxal world...i mean that it seems that Real Syaoran has returned to the past in order to change a special event,and so has created two storylines (sounds really like Trunks of DBZ  :sweatdrop:)

by the way,nobody posted the spoilers for chapter 188,so i take the opportunity to do it :
http://ashura-sama.livejournal.com/40841.html#cutid1 ( for those who like the seriousness of Ashura-sama)
http://su-chan.livejournal.com/199285.html (for the others who prefer the exuberant Su-chan  :keke:)

Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on April 21 2008, 04:24 am
OK xxxHolic and TRC is getting more confuse..... specially TRC..... Thanks for the spoilers
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Post by: gara_to on April 23 2008, 12:53 am
according to the recents rumors,this "double issue" refers to a paradoxal world...i mean that it seems that Real Syaoran has returned to the past in order to change a special event,and so has created two storylines (sounds really like Trunks of DBZ  :sweatdrop:)

by the way,nobody posted the spoilers for chapter 188,so i take the opportunity to do it :
http://ashura-sama.livejournal.com/40841.html#cutid1 ( for those who like the seriousness of Ashura-sama)
http://su-chan.livejournal.com/199285.html (for the others who prefer the exuberant Su-chan  :keke:)



Oh! I see. By the way, thanks for the welcome on the other thread.

The spoilers seems very confusing but still I can't wait to read it.
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Post by: ishiyaki on May 05 2008, 02:04 am
how long!!! :icon_cheers:

hi everyone!!

I've a very strong/shocking(incredible  spoiler about 189!!!! :sad6:
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R! Syaoran parent's are Sakura and Syaoran from CCS!!! yes, I can't belive it, I couldn't find the main font, but I read this in some blogs and livejournals

Clamp is going to make explode my brain...¬¬
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Post by: Smile_For_Me on May 05 2008, 03:47 am
....................................... ......................... WHAT!!!!!!! my brain is already dead.
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I mean, there was a 2 year time gap in CCS. But I want to know? I thought in XXXholic Manga 1, didn't Yuko say Sakura and Sayoran are in her world?
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Post by: Smile_For_Me on May 05 2008, 11:12 pm
Spoiler for 198....not made by me

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一名少年来到了次元魔女的面前。
A boy arrived in front of the dimension witch
“到这里去”。因为这样说过。(注:应该是少年的父亲所说的话)
"Go to here". Because this is said (Note: Probably this is said by the boy's father)
“总算来了”。侑子说着,并向少年解释“来到这里是必然的。”
"You are finally here." Yuuko said, and explained to the boy, "Coming here is hitsuzen."
“你的名字?”
"Your name?"
被这样询问的少年说到:“李小狼”。
The boy who is being asked as such replied, "Li Syaoran"
“和父亲一样的名字呢,但这并不是你的真名。”侑子笑着说到。
"It is the same name as your father, however this is not your real name", Yuuko smiled and said.
(注:原文可以这样理解,但似乎会导致内容相互矛盾)
(Note: The original script can be interpreted as such, However, it may cause contradiction in the context)
侑子:“你父亲似乎认真的教导过你啊,各个方面都是。”
Yuuko: "Your father seems to teach you quite seriously. In all aspect as well."
李小狼:“你,认识我的父亲?”
Syaoran: "you know my father?"
侑子:“你的母亲——樱,我也认识呢。不过并没有见过面。”
Yuuko: "Your mother -- Sakura, I also know as well. However, I have never seen her before."
侑子:“闲聊就到这里吧。说出你的愿望。”
Yuuko: "Random talk should end here, tell me your wish."
李小狼:“……我没有愿望。就算有的话,也只会靠自己去实现。”
Syaoran: "... I don't have a wish. Even if I have, I will use my own ability to fulfill it."
侑子:“但正因为有需要实现的愿望,你才会在这里。”
Yuuko: "But it is because you have a wish you need to fulfill, that's why you are here."
李小狼:“父亲他…不,母亲她因为梦的预知,说有在等待我的人,所以……”
Syaoran: "Father.. no, Because mother has dreamseeing power, she forsee that someone is waiting for me, so..."
侑子:“小樱以前确实有‘梦见’的能力呢。那么,你要去吗?”
Yuuko: "It is true that Sakura used to have Dreamseeing power. Then, do you want to go?"
李小狼:“嗯。父亲说过,是在和这个日本不同的世界。”
Syaoran: "Yes, Father told me that it is a dimension different than this Japan.
侑子:“你有过穿越次元的经历吗?”
Yuuko: "Have you have the experience of travelling across different dimension?"
李小狼:“没有。”
Syaoran: "NO."
侑子:“即便如此,也决定要去?”
Yuuko: "Even so, you have decided to go?"
李小狼:“是。既然有我能够做到的事情,就一定要去做。”
Syaoran: "Yes. Since there's something I need to do, I must fulfill it."
侑子:“真像你父亲的作风啊。那么,我便实现你的愿望。”
Yuuko: You are so like your father that way. Then, I shall fulfill your wish.
李小狼:“听闻要实现愿望,就必须收取相应的代价。”
Syaoran: "I heard that in order to grant a wish, I must exchange it with a equal price."
侑子:“已经从你的母亲那里收过了。”就是放在仓库的那根魔杖。
Yuuko: "I have already received from your mother. It is that magic ward which is stored in the storage room"
“这里就是妈妈所梦到的玖楼国吗?”飞跃的少年说到。
"This is Clow Country which is what my mother dreamsee?", that boy said.
“你是谁?”相遇的少女问到。
"Who are you?" meeting of a little girl asked.

■超越了时光的意志力 必然的命运邂逅……
~ The determination to transcend across dimension, the meeting of Hitsuzen...

Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on May 06 2008, 01:33 am
OK with this spoilers, CLAMP just kill my brain!!!! really
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So all the time "R- Xiao-lang" was CCS Sakura&Xiao-lang's kid!!!!!!!!!!!!, and this Xiao-lang has something to do?!?!?!?!?!?!?! o WTF!!!!! is this revealtions has to do with something with Watanuki, or maybe "Xiao-lang" & Watanuki are brothers....... OMG!!!!!! Tsubasa just blow my brain!!!!
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Post by: Møon Li on May 06 2008, 06:06 pm

 OMG!!! such of revelations... can't wait for the chapter to be out!!! when is going to be that?
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Post by: Kazemon15 on May 07 2008, 01:53 am
XD
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So I was right...RSyaoran is related to CCSyaoran in a way.... hmm...also...if CCSakura used her wand as a payment....why is it the Clow wand? Isnt it supposed to be the Sakura/Star wand? I'm also curious to know RSyaoran's real name...but also....wouldnt that mean he has fallen in love with his mother....?.
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Post by: ishiyaki on May 07 2008, 06:38 am
XD
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So I was right...RSyaoran is related to CCSyaoran in a way.... hmm...also...if CCSakura used her wand as a payment....why is it the Clow wand? Isnt it supposed to be the Sakura/Star wand? I'm also curious to know RSyaoran's real name...but also....wouldnt that mean he has fallen in love with his mother....?.

yeah, Kazemon, that relation between Syaoran and
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his mother "Sakura" seems Edipo's syndrom, isn't it??.....how will look like Syaoran Li father?? xD
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on May 26 2008, 12:56 am
Spoilers of chapter 191
http://ashura-sama.livejournal.com/43435.html#cutid1
Ther is not to much info to say  :'( :-\
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on May 28 2008, 06:01 am
i noticed. atleast right before a dreadful week there doesnt seem to be a brain-sploding cliffhanger....

unless FWR acts right on the last page >_O
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Tenkuuken on June 10 2008, 01:07 am
Is Chapter 192 out? How Clow AND Fujitaka became Sakura's father boggles me.
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Post by: Dreams00 on June 10 2008, 02:19 pm
No, 2 or 3 more weeks till it comes back

And For Fuji being king, I think he did it to save his family, by letting Clow hold the name of King.
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: ishiyaki on June 14 2008, 10:09 am
hey guys! :)

I've discovered something that wasn't real since the beginning...
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FWR cloned R!Sakura, isn't he? he did it when she touched the symbol on the floor of Clow's ruins...SO......R!SAKURA didn't lost her memories...it was Clone SAkura who lost her feathers, not RSAkura!
so I'm sure that it'll be a very happy ending 4 S&S

what do u think? does anyone agree me?
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Post by: Miss Jenni-Maie on June 14 2008, 11:11 am
hey guys! :)

I've discovered something that wasn't real since the beginning...
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FWR cloned R!Sakura, isn't he? he did it when she touched the symbol on the floor of Clow's ruins...SO......R!SAKURA didn't lost her memories...it was Clone SAkura who lost her feathers, not RSAkura!
so I'm sure that it'll be a very happy ending 4 S&S

what do u think? does anyone agree me?

I'm not the only one who thought about that! Good! Unless we're missing some giant plot hole, I think that might be the case. But who knows what CLAMP is throwing our way these days I'm way too lost to make sense of it all, ahha.
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on June 26 2008, 11:54 pm
1 more week and chapter 192 is out, I think this weekend we are going to have spoilers
and the 17 of july volume 24 is out!!!! the covers are awsome check it out in chibiyuuto's page
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Smile_For_Me on June 29 2008, 01:23 am
Su-chan has spoilers up....hehe, It's sounds cute for an S&S cover. (I hope)
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on July 15 2008, 01:18 pm
OK spoilers for chapter 194 thanks to ashura-sama
http://ashura-sama.livejournal.com/47164.html#cutid1
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on July 27 2008, 12:50 pm
Little spoiler of chapter 195
http://ashura-sama.livejournal.com/47848.html#cutid1

Ther is not a lot of info, so we have to wait for the chapter.......
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on August 03 2008, 10:47 am
Chapter 196 spoilers
CLAMP is evil.... so many emotions
http://ashura-sama.livejournal.com/48576.html#cutid1
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on August 17 2008, 02:14 pm
Chater 197 spoilers
Another break after this chaper, why CLAMP!!!!! WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One way ticket..... read the spoiler and you would understand, This chapter is going to be so interesting!!!!

Translations thanks to starlady38 & ashura-sama

http://starlady38.livejournal.com/161229.html#cutid1
http://ashura-sama.livejournal.com/49478.html#cutid1
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Post by: Dreams00 on September 11 2008, 07:02 pm
CLAMP is forgiven by

http://jlarinda.livejournal.com/424716.html

Fans after this..... SO CUTE
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: cherrybloms on September 12 2008, 12:38 am
Thanks very much,the picture is so ccccccccccccccccccccuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuttttttttteeeeeeeeeee  ; ;D
this is the best splash page ever.
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on September 16 2008, 02:05 am
Chapter 199 Spoilers via Clamp news and releases
http://community.livejournal.com/clamp_now/391879.html#cutid1
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Post by: Korkil on September 16 2008, 06:26 am
It says that I'm not allowed to view the entry ???
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Post by: Itzeen on September 23 2008, 12:46 pm
Chapter 200 spoilers, by ashura-sama and starlady38

http://ashura-sama.livejournal.com/53250.html
http://starlady38.livejournal.com/167367.html
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Post by: Itzeen on October 07 2008, 10:54 am
Ok here chapter 201 spoiler, color pages, start of vol 26, and a lot of surprises!!!!!!
Here 3 translations of the spoilers:
http://starlady38.livejournal.com/169669.html
http://su-chan.livejournal.com/204408.html
http://ashura-sama.livejournal.com/53906.html
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on October 28 2008, 01:13 pm
Chapter 203 spoilers:
http://su-chan.livejournal.com/204754.html
http://ashura-sama.livejournal.com/54836.html#cutid1
http://starlady38.livejournal.com/173968.html
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Post by: Itzeen on November 03 2008, 04:34 am
CLAMP is nonstop now!!!! and here the spoilers of chapter 204, thanks to Ashura-sama, Starlady38 and Kaducos

http://community.livejournal.com/clamp_now/408662.html#cutid1
http://starlady38.livejournal.com/176027.html#cutid1
http://kaducos.livejournal.com/708.html

And this is the begining of the end!!!!!!!!!!!!! (how many chapters more are going to be!!!!!!)
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Keichii on November 04 2008, 01:00 pm
Sugoi!
Ehhhnnn......? Chotto... Cloney says "Good Evening"?
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Post by: Dreams00 on November 04 2008, 05:32 pm
WOW.......he's back.....
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Post by: Aethelthryth on November 04 2008, 06:52 pm
Wow...the fact that clone is there, does that mean there's a feather in the ruins, which might have been stopping the time?
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on November 11 2008, 03:15 am
OK, so this week is going to be Tsubasa Chapter (and 3 weeks without xxxHolic), here are the spoilers of chapter 205
http://yamisakura38.livejournal.com/28833.html
Spoilers thanks to yamisakura38 & the chinese forum
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: cherrybloms on November 16 2008, 01:08 pm
This is A Fake Sopiler and not have a real big action ;D
The Real Spoilers:
Starlady translation
Ashura-sama translation

Spoiler:
Go Go Kurogane fight Fei !!!!!
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on November 18 2008, 01:14 pm
Yea I noticed some days ago when it was anaunced it was fake.... i was angry, but here are the links to the spoilers

Chapter 205
http://ashura-sama.livejournal.com/55182.html
http://starlady38.livejournal.com/179859.html
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on December 03 2008, 11:55 am
chapter 206 spoiler
http://starlady38.livejournal.com/181860.html
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: ishiyaki on January 18 2009, 09:51 am
hi! chapter 209 is already out ...www.onemanga.com


it's incredible what happens in that chapter....:S
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on February 02 2009, 04:19 pm
OK!!!!! here are the spoilers of chapter 212!!!!!! OMG I never imagine that this could ever happen!!!!
Spoilers thanks to su_chan http://su-chan.livejournal.com/207082.html
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Itzeen on February 09 2009, 02:56 pm
Spoiler of chapter 213 (any coments????) o by the way, this chapter is going to be out on tuesday
http://su-chan.livejournal.com/207139.html
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Aethelthryth on February 10 2009, 08:22 am
Ah...it's too short...I don't know what's going on there...
Hopefully the chapter reveals much more than that! :)
Title: Re: SPOILER DISCUSION thread #2
Post by: Yersi Fanel on March 21 2009, 03:41 pm
I just want to say that the last chapter leaved me very surprised..... CCS! Sakura & Shaoran?!