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Title: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Sakaki on December 02 2006, 04:09 am
We, Pikari and Sakaki, hereby notify CapturedWings that we resign from our positions as moderators and as members of this forum. Due to ongoing personal harassment by a certain moderator who will not be named, hereafter known as WARLOAD, and due to the fact that we can no longer sit by and watch other members be threatened, ridiculed, and harassed by said WARLOAD, we can no longer remain on this site. Over the past months, the hostile atmosphere instigated by said WARLOAD (hereafter known as A.SS for short) has continued to grow with posts like the ones linked. This moderator has considered himself above the rules of the forum by repeatedly breaking these rules (spamming, double/multiple posting, flame-baiting, stalking, among other things) and arbitrarily making up rules to harass other members of the forum, locking topics and giving warnings for no reason, and has personally threatened members with comments such as “deal with me.” Said *** has gone so far as to copy and paste members’ posts for the sole purpose of mocking them on other forums,  and personally threatened other moderators both on the forums and in moderator topics not viewable to general members.

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Quote from: Arcademan
'll post where I please because I am who I am. Trust me...don't go down that path. You want to discuss the petition, fine. If you want to discuss me, do it somewhere else. Thank You.
Quote from: Arcademan
Keep going down this path and I will have this thread locked, despite your best intentions...and no, I don't get warnings for provoking people.

Next person goes off topic and want to add their 2 cents against me will get a warning.

END OF DISCUSSION!!!
Quote from: Arcademan
Thread locked...because nobody, including other moderators, do NOT make changes after I've done it.

Do it again and you'll have to deal with me.

Next time, try wording your post better so nobody misunderstands it.

THE WARLORD OF CLOW HAS SPOKEN!!!
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Perhaps it's time for me to step down because I have no intent of backing down from any comments I make here. Only thing I'll say is certain people act like spoiled children and I treat them as such.
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Gee...slight disagreement going on here. I'm surprised...NOT!!!
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Which may be true but you'd be surprised on what I'm capable of doing.
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And if it starts happening again in this thread, it will be shut down, whether anyone agrees or disagree.
Quote from: Arcademan
What idiot locked the original merchandise thread?!!

I have some to share however I refuse to do so until the original thread gets unlocked. There is absolutely no reason for it!!!
Quote from: Arcademan
Thread's all cleaned up. Continue on with the campaign and don't let my feelings deter you. My mind games are over and all but one passed it.
Quote from: Arcademan
Do what you need to do, the decision stands. You were told not to continue the off-topic conversation twice and refusing a direct order from a moderator of the forum, you were place on warning. It will stand for 24 hours. The thread has been cleaned up, my original post stands and all other off-topic conversation deleted. Continue on with the thread however if you want to continue attacking my viewpoints there, the next warning will be longer. Thank You.
Quote from: Arcademan
Heh. I make comments less critical than the quotes and the person who posted it now wants my head on a platter for bullying everyone in a forum I won't mention here...and will do everything in her power to have me stripped of my powers.

 Since I help finance the forum and also have talked to the owner...unlikely.
Quote from: Arcademan
And to think, the little she-devil who posted the petition is on a campaign to rid my likes from CapturedWings (I'll go ahead and name the place, why not?) The thread got locked there, the person warned and now sends me threatening PMs. I always enjoy a good laugh before I head on to bed
Read more  here (http://freewebs.com/evidence69/tokyopop1.html) and here (http://freewebs.com/evidence69/tokyopop2.html)

Due to all of the above mentioned (hereafter known as *******) and said moderator’s complete lack of respect for other members, going so far as to call them “inmates”, as well as administration that refuses to do anything about it, we can no tolerate said ******, as we expect many other members of this forum have suffered equally, as you’ll notice threads that have been locked, trashed, or disappeared without explanation. We therefore take our leave, effective immediately

Edited:Just because you had a bad experience and didn't bother to take it to the adminstrator doesn't give you the right to STEAL members from this forum.
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: mela on December 02 2006, 04:20 am
I agree. I had been thinking on and off about leaving the boards due to other issues, but one of the main issues I have had, even as someone who hasn't been here as long as some others, was Arcademan's obnoxious and immature sense of superiority over everyone on the forums. All the stupid arguments that he was started and claimed that no one can touch him because he's in with the admins... personally, I don't care anymore at this point either. If he can come into other boards that he has no mod powers in and start acting like a mod and harassing kids less than half his age for the sole reason to start up drama and be the one with the last word over everything, then I personally do not care to stay here either.

Especially now that you  guys are leaving, I don't really see much of a purpose in staying on the forums either. It's sad that it has had to come to this, but now that the last active mods with a sense of, you know, sanity are gone, then I don't really want any part in it.

Anyway, let's just say I support your decision and that I think I will also follow your path and call it a day here at CW.
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Rekall on December 02 2006, 04:27 am
Don't blame you one bit.  Those on my LJ flist know I rant about him a lot and frankly the only reason I've stuck around this long was becaus of you and Pikari.
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Rusty on December 02 2006, 04:30 am
i personally haven't been hanging around much to really comment on this issue but it really saddens me to see so many nice people leaving the forums just because of one members harassment.
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Kjesta on December 02 2006, 04:31 am
I just posted here and it's already deleted. Wanna bet who it was?
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Kasawa Lanford on December 02 2006, 04:34 am
Ok people, I'm not going to do anything about this thread since I can see where pikari and Sakaki are coming from. (I can't anyway since I'm not a mod for this thread, but I'm just saying)

Even though I'm a moderator and will probably get my rear end ringed by Arcademan, I don't care. The two are correct though and I've decided to send the admins a big PM about it. I also sent it via e-mail.

Once I see Sli online I'll talk to him about this problem and see about getting it delt with.

Oh... and if this post get's deleted, I will REPOST it. Because every member has a RIGHT to know.

If your post get's deleted, please send me a PM with what you had and I'll repost it. Because this is a valid thread that requires admin attention because the reason we lost these two moderators is because of another moderator, and in my book, that's unacceptable.

I will also be logging this thread, so if it happens to be deleted I'll just send a copy of it to Sli... ;)
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Robin Sena on December 02 2006, 04:36 am
Hmm...

I understand about this, it happens quite alot on any forum (sometimes even worse).
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Sandra-chan on December 02 2006, 04:38 am
To bad that so many nice people are leaving,  :cry:
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Kasawa Lanford on December 02 2006, 04:41 am
It is understandable, however, if everyone send's a PM to Sli and Little wolf about this problem then maybe something will be done.
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Tenkuuken on December 02 2006, 04:44 am
Is it just me, or am I seeing posts here disappearing and reappearing? Now THAT, I believe, is harassment.

Scratch that... I'm reading from two sub-forums at the same time  :sweatdrop:.
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Emiko on December 02 2006, 04:44 am
Wholeheartedly agree. I'll definitely be joining the new forum.
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: kixie on December 02 2006, 04:46 am
I totally understand and agree, I've just been trying to ignore it and get on with enjoying my time here but if we're losing members like you two then it's time to stop ignoring it.
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Kasawa Lanford on December 02 2006, 04:46 am
I haven't noticed yet and I've been to every forum here so far.

It's possible that it's a database issue, and Arcademan isn't online right now (not according to the online list below which, even if you where hidden, would still say)

Anyway, I ask that everyone here hold off on leaving please until I've talked with Sli and Little Wolf. Nothing will be accomplished if everyone just leaves without providing a voice, and I can't do this alone!!!!! >_< (well ok, maybe I can, but I'd prefer people back me up in this case)
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Tenkuuken on December 02 2006, 05:05 am
My statement from the other thread stays: We stay put until we get Erase Card-ed or the issue is cleared.

Then again, another forum to join isn't a bad idea.  :heh:
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Kazemon15 on December 02 2006, 05:10 am
Is Arcademan one of the head admins here? If he is, that's a problem, but if he isnt, should SLi do something about it instead of ppl just leaving? Im new here so I dont understand who is who...

And maybe we can talk to him? I dont know.....maybe we can all come to an agreement...
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Mairi on December 02 2006, 05:11 am
I don't think people's posts are disappearing - there are two threads with the same name so it's a little difficult to follow both. XD Pikari and Sakaki have both made a thread, so remember to check the other if you don't see your post?

I must agree with the harrassment thing, though. I was noticing a very condescending attitude from a certain mod, and quite honestly it put me off posting here. The attitude was quite uncalled for from someone such as a moderator, and the lack of respect at times was alarming.
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Emiko on December 02 2006, 05:15 am
Unfortunately, Kazemon, this has been a persistant problem for a long time now. Such a movement was a long time coming, and there have been several attempts made by various users to do just what is being done now.
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Smile_For_Me on December 02 2006, 05:16 am
I'm not leaving yet, I want to see how things work out at 1st.
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Kazemon15 on December 02 2006, 05:16 am
If it's been a problem for a long time how come SLi or Little Wolf havent done anything yet?
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Kasawa Lanford on December 02 2006, 05:18 am
I won't speak for the two admin's completely, only that the server move has been a top priority for Sli and Little Wolf.

It's like I mentioned before, perhaps now that the move is over (I think) they can bring there attention the major problem at hand.
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Arcademan on December 02 2006, 03:18 pm
Okay, folks, I am back and as noted, I have stepped down as a moderator here because the last thing I want to see is a rift growing here in CapturedWings, apparently me being a cause of the entire thing. I want the valued members here to realize though I have the best intentions of the forum in mind, my methods of doing so were totally unacceptable in the eyes of many here.

I can only say that I am extremely sorry for what happened here and deep down, I know many of you won't accept that and leave. That decision is yours to make and if it does make you feel good to call me names and rant and rave about me, please go ahead and vent your feelings and outrage toward me but do not take it out on SLi or the forum.

I want to see the continued success of the forum and though I'm no longer a moderator, I am helping with the finances with CapturedWings to insure its future so that everyone has a great place to visit and talk about the variety of subjects here without fear or personal attacks.

Pikari and Sakaki, I hope you reconsider and decide to stay here not only as members but as part of the moderating team and those who want to leave because of my action, I hope you reconsider as well. With the new server in place, this place should be better than ever however a place is only as good as its valued members.

i would like to see, if all possible, the moderators become a well-oiled team and instead of being moderators of a handful of forums but instead being moderators of all threads and forum. I believe if done this way, the forum will function more smoothly and all areas become more interactive.

I leave myself to your mercy, members of CapturedWings. If you wish me to leave the forum, I will...if it gets you to remain, I'll do it in a heartbeat because I care that much for this place. Give CapturedWings another chance. After all, SLi and Little Wolf have worked so hard to provide a place. Don't let someone like me cause the downfall to what has been a great forum. That's all I ask of you.

Again, you have my sincere apologies and if you have any questions, comments or complaints, contact the moderators or if you want to yell at me, feel free to PM me.

Thank you for you time for reading this.

Arcademan
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: regina on December 02 2006, 04:25 pm
Come on guys, dont leave please :(

CWF is one of the very few nice places fans can visit.

Besides, it seems like the problem is somewhat solved since Arcademan has resigned as a moderator.

Maybe we can work things out?
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Hack on December 02 2006, 04:29 pm
Come on guys, dont leave please :(

CWF is one of the very few nice places fans can visit.

Besides, it seems like the problem is somewhat solved since Arcademan has resigned as a moderator.

Maybe we can work things out?

I could say only one thing has been solved, as new problems came up, such as lack of mods....I guess?
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Robin Sena on December 02 2006, 04:30 pm
Yeah, lack of mods is a bad thing also.
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Kuro-puppy on December 02 2006, 04:50 pm
Yeah, lack of mods is a bad thing also.

i'm curious to see who the new ones are gonna be, i hope we get nice people for the jobs.

but i am a bit relieved with Arcademan gone as moderator, the maybe i'll start posting some more again ^^
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: D.J.P on December 02 2006, 05:00 pm
but i am a bit relieved with Arcademan gone as moderator, the maybe i'll start posting some more again ^^

Which should never be a reason in the first place. Please people no more comments like this, this is how this mess started.
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Hack on December 02 2006, 05:07 pm
I'm just looking forward to the new CWF, and this is the exciting part. :)
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: xOLight_AngelOx on December 03 2006, 02:57 pm
oh my... i can't belive how much has happend while i was away for three months. but for some reason i had a feeling something was going on while i was gone  (i know that sounds really weird but its true)
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Kuro-puppy on December 03 2006, 03:41 pm
I'm just looking forward to the new CWF, and this is the exciting part. :)

me too!

hmm.....random thought....if we're getting a new CWF does that mean all the topics here in the old one are gonna be deleted or something?
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: suu_no_clover on December 03 2006, 04:15 pm
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hmm.....random thought....if we're getting a new CWF does that mean all the topics here in the old one are gonna be deleted or something?

Highly unlikely, I would hope. There's a lot of information and links and history, and the like at this forum. For all of it to be deleted would be a major loss, in my opinion. :/
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on December 03 2006, 04:18 pm
^ i hope not. posts= good memories and good friends. [<- refers to kuropuppy's post]

as for this, it sux. i hope you two stay. your both nice :(

i myself only had one falling with arcade man, and it was takencare of, i apoigized as did he.

btw..alot has happened inthe 2 days imwith nonet O_o thank got for hotel wireless
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: tsuki on December 03 2006, 04:24 pm
.........i really feel sad,after read all these posts! TT_TT

i don't know what to say,but all I hope IS don't close this forum!

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Come on guys, dont leave please  :(

CWF is one of the very few nice places fans can visit.

Besides, it seems like the problem is somewhat solved since Arcademan has resigned as a moderator.

Maybe we can work things out?

I totally agree with you!
This site is the best that fans & guests can visit!
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Hack on December 03 2006, 04:41 pm
I don't believe that this forum is going to close, or do I think.This site had been running for a long time and I don't think they're going to delete all the threads either.
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Arcademan on December 04 2006, 01:54 am
me too!

hmm.....random thought....if we're getting a new CWF does that mean all the topics here in the old one are gonna be deleted or something?

All of the information from the old site have been moved to the new server site (where we are right now, for those who didn't know). Many of the older topics and non-active members will be deleted and cleaned up to make the forum run faster and smoother.

And once again, the forum will not be closing soon. Too much is being invested in CW to pull the plug and as long as we have caring members coming here and continuing making this an active place, there's no worries about its future. Thank You.
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: ishiyaki on December 04 2006, 02:26 am
I'm really sad...I joined here just a year ago...and now it's going to be closed... :cry:

But, are we now in a safe "place" or we have to wait for another forum site? :cry:
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Arcademan on December 04 2006, 02:43 am
The forum is NOW in the new server site and it is safe. It will have some more downtime while SLi adds new features and options here so dry those tears...CapturedWings is safe and sound :wink:
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Robin Sena on December 04 2006, 03:10 am
Hmm... exciting once the ball starts rolling again!
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: lynalar on December 04 2006, 04:45 am
I guess that I have reservations.

  I'm seeing that anything said being construed as negative is being asked to stop.  Maybe this is my perspective only, but we learn as much, if not more, by the negative as we do the positive.  I'm not talking about flaming or overwhelming negative that tears down, but voicing an opinion that is not all happy.

  This may get me banned and if it does, so be it. I like it here but not enough to be silent when I see a potential problem.  Evidently people, including moderators, brought issues with arcademan up to SLi and others. Those were evidently dismissed until very recently and this has evidently been an ongoing issue.  Nothing has been posted as to WHY people's concerns were dismissed previously.

  The issue seems to only have gotten dealt with after a very large and disruptive fight erupted on the boards.  Now small comments are being jumped on.  I guess that I have to wonder if we can't learn from this experience.  Perhaps if those people had been listened to while things were small, it wouldn't have turned into a huge drama.

  And yes...I realize that this board is not a democracy and the owners can run things as they choose.  I am only one small voice. I acknowledge that.  I am just concerned that if problems are swept under the rug, we'll be looking at a repeat of this scenario down the road.

  I've very much enjoyed this board and these forums.  I bring this up not to be a thorn in people's side nor to cause a ruckus...but to maybe prevent this from occuring again.  Take it for how I mean it...or delete it as you see fit.
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Sandra-chan on December 04 2006, 05:35 am
This forum is the best forum I've been to so I'm happy that it will not be closed and I hope Pikari and Sakaki will stay here with us and all others who reconsidered to leave will stay too.
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Arcademan on December 04 2006, 05:35 am
I guess that I have reservations.

 I'm seeing that anything said being construed as negative is being asked to stop. Maybe this is my perspective only, but we learn as much, if not more, by the negative as we do the positive. I'm not talking about flaming or overwhelming negative that tears down, but voicing an opinion that is not all happy.

 This may get me banned and if it does, so be it. I like it here but not enough to be silent when I see a potential problem. Evidently people, including moderators, brought issues with arcademan up to SLi and others. Those were evidently dismissed until very recently and this has evidently been an ongoing issue. Nothing has been posted as to WHY people's concerns were dismissed previously.

 The issue seems to only have gotten dealt with after a very large and disruptive fight erupted on the boards. Now small comments are being jumped on. I guess that I have to wonder if we can't learn from this experience. Perhaps if those people had been listened to while things were small, it wouldn't have turned into a huge drama.

 And yes...I realize that this board is not a democracy and the owners can run things as they choose. I am only one small voice. I acknowledge that. I am just concerned that if problems are swept under the rug, we'll be looking at a repeat of this scenario down the road.

 I've very much enjoyed this board and these forums. I bring this up not to be a thorn in people's side nor to cause a ruckus...but to maybe prevent this from occuring again. Take it for how I mean it...or delete it as you see fit.

You're absolutely right on many of the comments you bring up. Sometimes negativity need to be brought out on the forum and discuss to make sure situations like this won't occur again. That's why the statements made on this situation have not been deleted, locked or censored. I'm sure the CW folks want to hear from all sides, whether positive, negative, good or bad.

Am I being hypocritical in making these comments? Yes I am for I have realized the strong-arm approach to handling things clearly rubbed a good many folks the wrong way here, which is why I stepped aside and will be taking a rest during the next few weeks but always think of CapturedWings as a community. As a member of a community, as in real life, if there are violations going on and rules being broken, please report them to the proper authorities.

Mistakes were clearly made and CapturedWings will go on in a positive manner however it's very important to look back at its past, realize those mistakes and learn from them.

Thank you, lynalar for your post and your valued opinions on the matter :)
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: ishiyaki on December 05 2006, 12:59 am
I'm very glad, Arcademan, very happy. Arigatoo!!
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: faisama13 on December 05 2006, 02:59 pm
wow. so much has happened that i had no clue about. it's been a while since my last post.  i really dont know all that has been going on here, however, i am relieved to know that whatever the issues were, they were resolved. well, for the most part at least. i really like this forum, and it would sadden me to see anything bad happen to it. i've had to sit back and watch other really nice forums close for such reasons. arcademan, i never had any personal issues so i really cant comment about the complaints all that much. i think it's rather noble of you to be the better man and to step down for the sake of the ppl here and for the forum itself. for what its worth, its much appreciated, and i thank you for it. ^_^ pikari and sakaki, i think you two are wonderful mods and would hate to see you leave. please give this forum and the ppl in it a second chance.
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: tsukihime on December 06 2006, 11:25 pm
whoa! that's sad yet scary! :lol: but i still hope that sakaki and pikari comes back

:lol: seeing arcademan being so polite is very disturbing in some sort! XD

not being offensive ofcourse.
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Tenkuuken on December 07 2006, 01:41 pm
This is a good time to start over, yes?
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: ~Bloody_Rose~ on December 07 2006, 01:49 pm
hmm.... but the problem is... we do lack of mods, right? hmm... that's quite dangerous...

@tsukihime:
  XD you too? it is a bit disturbing without Arcademan-san's THE WARLORD HAS SPOKEN thingy! :XD:

it's a good thing, though! XD that annoys me so much. ^^
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Hack on December 07 2006, 01:56 pm
maybe SLi-san or Little Wolf-san ( if he ever goes on) could pick out new mods
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Kasawa Lanford on December 07 2006, 02:05 pm
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but i still hope that sakaki and pikari comes back

I think the two won't be back, as both have completely ignored my PMs to them and my requess.

My guess is they have black listed the e-mail reminder that you get when you have a PM, further more, my guess is they have blocked CW from there internet so they can't access it (internet security settings)

Now, this is only a guess since I can't get ahold of them, but if so then the two of them are being very childish.

Either way if anyone here knows how to get ahold of these two be my guest because my attempts have all landed me into a brick wall (with me suffering a broken nose in the process....)
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Tenkuuken on December 08 2006, 02:30 am
How about through whatever forum they are in?

Or if there's a regular poster her who is qualified to be a mod, it would be helpful.
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Kazemon15 on December 08 2006, 05:24 am
If we do get new mods, I think it should be mods who have different views. No offense to Pikari and Sakaki, but for me, being another type of fan here feels a bit uneasy to have mods who support the same thing without different views. Sometimes what they see and what others see are different....sometimes they may not find something offensive, while other ppl do, but according to them, it isnt ....So maybe new mods that have different views?
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: LSD on December 08 2006, 05:38 am
hehe i haven't been here in a while ^^;;;;-
and what can i say-- old folks might now that me and the guy never started with the right foot ^^ and his "end of discution" stuffies get out of my nerves--

 this forum is imporant to me since it was my very first forum-

*sigh* well pikari and sakaki where an important part of this forum.. childish or not we should respect their desition [can't sp]--.

well i'm always here to help whoever needs help, i've been doing that and will keep with it..
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: KratosAurion on December 08 2006, 07:48 am
If we do get new mods, I think it should be mods who have different views. No offense to Pikari and Sakaki, but for me, being another type of fan here feels a bit uneasy to have mods who support the same thing without different views. Sometimes what they see and what others see are different....sometimes they may not find something offensive, while other ppl do, but according to them, it isnt ....So maybe new mods that have different views?

agreed on that. I remember i got harrassed twice by KxF fans for thinking differently, and when i replied I got scolded by Pikari
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Ando on December 08 2006, 08:05 am
Well, now we do know that at least Sakaki is still active here, despite her and Pikari not responding to PMs. The notification I got when the KuroxFai Thread was deleted said that Sakaki was the one to have done it. If you're reading this, Sakaki, I must say that this is terribly immature of you - innocent members should not have to be punished for the issues you have with Arcademan.

As for the problem concerning moderation... Maybe we could propose members we feel would be suitable for the post (of course, they would have the choice to decline), so that as many users as possible are happy with the new moderators?
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: xxxholic on December 08 2006, 08:07 am
KratosAurion- I hope you elaborate or be more specific on what you're talking about because I'm sure the majority of KF fans don't get mad at you for thinking differently or not being into the couple. Unless you've said something that sounded insulting or offensive, I don't see any reason why people would harass you. And what do you mean by being harassed?

Kazemon15 - And this notice has nothing to do with being KF fans or anything. I'm sure the admins didn't choose moderators by their shipping preferences. Pikari and Sakaki were good moderators and they did their jobs well. There's no need to put someone down or judge someone based on her preferences.
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Emiko on December 08 2006, 08:26 am
...I think the new mods should be chosen based on their ability to do their job, not on what pairing they support or what views they have.
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Kazemon15 on December 08 2006, 08:30 am
I wasnt judging anyway by their preference.... but in one topic, I clearly stated I was making a HidekiChi vid...and some person just harrased me about even mentioned FaiChi...and I told her to clam down and it was just a show and no need to get upset over it and the next thing I know, Sakaki deletes my post and agrees with that person....
 
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Quote from: Kazemon15 on November 11 2006, 05:15 AM
Yeah ^^ well I was just asking for the FaiChi link should go.....but for all the HidekiChi fans, I'm going to post it here ^^ For the "Remember Hideki" forum, a HidekiChi AMV with the song "Imagin Me Without You"

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I don't understand why you would post something Fay/Chii in a HIDEKI/CHII thread.  This thread blatantly states that it is in favor of Hideki/Chii.  I don't think anyone would appreciate it if I posted fanart, fanfiction, or links to AMVs about KuroFay in a KuroTomo or a FayChii thread.  Common sense.

No offense to this person, but I thought I was rather clear on what I said.

...I think the new mods should be chosen based on their ability to do their job, not on what pairing they support or what views they have.
I dont care who the mods support, as long as they see everyone's view and know which people should be warned....and should at least know which topic titles wont be offensive to other people. No offense to those who made the "Canon Gloating KF Thread" but if I was a mod, I would ask for that topic's title changed. There's no need to have gloating in it.

As for new mods....maybe someone who has been here over a year, gets along with everyone and has the time to look through every thread screated...and has well over 500 posts.
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Emiko on December 08 2006, 08:38 am
I think the 'canon gloating thread' was really renamed as such mostly as a joke, seeing as it was re-named right around the time where major developments in the manga made a lot of us see KuroFai as canon. And we were all giddy and silly and happy over it.

And the whole FaiChii thing... I'll admit, I misunderstood you at the time and thought you wanted to post a Fai/Chii video in the Chii/Hideki thread, which i think is what happened with everyone else. I think it was more of a misunderstanding than anything else.
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Kazemon15 on December 08 2006, 08:44 am
Even so...the first rule is to respect each other...and changing the name so it would look unwelcome to other fans doesnt seem right. Every thread should look welcoming to all fans.

Maybe I was a bit unclear, sometimes I do that....but to delete my post? I must ask why?
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Emiko on December 08 2006, 08:47 am
Sorry you were offended by it, but that thread, formerly known as the "will it be canon" thread, never stated that nobody could post there with alternate opinions, I don't think...?

But then again, it was a thread for KuroFai originally. KuroTomo fans, for example, usually don't go into KuroFai threads. So there will always be threads that exclude certain people. KuroFai threads usually aren't for KuroTomo fans, and KuroTomo threads aren't for FaiChii fans, etc. There's nothing to say you can't post there, but you probably wouldn't anyway.
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Kazemon15 on December 08 2006, 08:50 am
I was only offened about the "use common sense" thing....I already know ppl wouldnt like it if I posted something that wasnt supportive there. I was having a good time talking about different views. But that post made me look like I was some kind of raging fan trying to convert ppl.....:D ...sounds like fun, but...lol...no...Im not like that.

Oh if you meant about the title, it did seem a little offensive...I wanted to talk to Sakaki about it, but was afraid I would get scolded.

I know, I wont go to KF threads, so I wanted to make my own, but it was deleted. I just dont understand why it would be deleted...
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: xxxholic on December 08 2006, 08:54 am
She said "Common sense". She didn't tell you to use common sense. There's a difference.
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Emiko on December 08 2006, 08:55 am
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that. I didn't find it overly offensive personally, but that's just me.

But lol! Look! We have like no mods now! CHAOS!!

(I don't know why the KuroTomo thread was deleted, either. That's never made much sense to me, but I never really read much of it.)
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Kazemon15 on December 08 2006, 08:56 am
Ahh! ....I know! We can be our own mods! ^^ I mean...as long as we get along, no need for mods at the moment right?
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: KratosAurion on December 08 2006, 09:06 am
Ahh! ....I know! We can be our own mods! ^^ I mean...as long as we get along, no need for mods at the moment right?

lol that makes a lot of sense but who will close threads and that kind of things then? :)
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: xxxholic on December 08 2006, 09:08 am
Well, one solution is to have the threads die away from no posting.
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Kazemon15 on December 08 2006, 09:10 am
Lol well, the person who creates the thread has an option of locking it right? They can mod their own thread then!
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Kasawa Lanford on December 08 2006, 09:10 am
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But lol! Look! We have like no mods now! CHAOS!!

*eye twitches* no mods?

Who do you think's been monitoring this thread for the past hours, while having twenty other tabs (I use IE 7, so I have tabs now instead of windows :p) open to other area's of the forum, makes it easy for me to moderate each and every forum...

Although... it's a pain on the eyes though trust me.  :XD:

Even so, please keep things civil here ok?  :D
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Emiko on December 08 2006, 09:12 am
Hahah, I said "like" no mods, sorry for the abominable teenage slang. I didn't forget you, Kasawa Lanford! It's just that a whole bunch of our mods have left at the same time, so there are few left.
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: xxxholic on December 08 2006, 09:15 am
^ It's really sad. We should persuade them all to come back. Like, let's give them a surprise.
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Kasawa Lanford on December 08 2006, 09:15 am
I hear ya, the only other mods that I can see is fieah, and Okimarei :)
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Kazemon15 on December 08 2006, 09:16 am
Well, Kasawa Lanford-san, we can help! We'll look around and report anything! ^^ ..and of course, keep it civil
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Kasawa Lanford on December 08 2006, 09:17 am
That's all I ask from people, just observe the rules and inform the mods if anything requires our attention ;)

Leave the admins to take care of the more pressing matters (IE - Server upkeep, keeping the board clean - oh wait thats my job xD )
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: ~Bloody_Rose~ on December 08 2006, 03:54 pm
ehehehe.. Kazemon-san i just want to react with what you said to Pikari and Sakaki-san there...

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I don't understand why you would post something Fay/Chii in a HIDEKI/CHII thread.  This thread blatantly states that it is in favor of Hideki/Chii.  I don't think anyone would appreciate it if I posted fanart, fanfiction, or links to AMVs about KuroFay in a KuroTomo or a FayChii thread.  Common sense.

i saw the reason why they got mad at you and your post was deleted.. coz IT IS a HidekixChii thread and you posted something FaixChii in it.

why say something like that to Sakaki and Pikari-san? they're just doing their jobs, right? cleaning OFF TOPIC posts, right? -_-
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: kudan on December 08 2006, 05:16 pm
Well, one solution is to have the threads die away from no posting.
There could be grave diggers. xD
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Zettai daijoubu on December 08 2006, 11:36 pm
I have chose to ignore these threads till kudan alerted me to the situation that is occuring within CWF.

ok to put it nicely i don't wanna know of such ugly sides of the forum and continue to lead my little life getting information and sharing my likes and dislikes with the people here. To put it badly, i'm just selfish. Since the disappearance of any mod doesn't affect me, i don't give a damn..

i've experienced a little of what Arcademan is accused of doing (then i shouldn't use the word acuused should i), but at that time i dare not 'fight back' because i respect him for his superiority and seniority. However, he can really be VERY VERY blunt. To think that Arcademan is older than most of us and is unable to put nice words into a bad situation, it says alot. To furture and staying mods, do give 'warnings' in a nice way. It keeps this forum going and members' displeasure wouldn't be that great.
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Kuro-puppy on December 09 2006, 01:42 am
To furture and staying mods, do give 'warnings' in a nice way. It keeps this forum going and members' displeasure wouldn't be that great.

me being a moderator in another forum, i agree with this XD
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: BlushJoy on December 11 2006, 09:19 pm
Finally found out what's been going on here. ^^;;;;;;  My, my, to think my beloved Tokyopop forum was involved....links and everything,
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on December 16 2006, 01:07 am
personal opinion: deleitng threads, especialy one as long as the original KF thread,  is a bit imature, tho the 2 of them will be missed.

BTW...what of Pikari's site? will she still translate chapters? her translaions have always been the most comprehensive
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Kasawa Lanford on December 16 2006, 03:59 am
Either way, I wish these two would actually come back and realize that we need them here. They basically abandoned they're friends, and that is a major 'no no' in my book.
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Strawberry on December 16 2006, 05:44 am
It's really up to Pikari and Sasaki if they decide to come back or not regardless how much we love them. I mean I do wish they come back because they were great mods and they were really friendly to everyone, but I don't think they are going to come back, but lets hope I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Notice from Pikari and Sakaki
Post by: Kasawa Lanford on December 16 2006, 05:52 am
Why do you think I've been trying, for the past week and a half, to get ahold of them? -_-

*sigh*....

I better lock this thread though..... *sigh*