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Title: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determination
Post by: Okamirei on October 23 2006, 01:41 pm: Tsubasa Chronicle (Arc 2): Episode 24

This is the discussion topic for Episode 50 of TRC.

This episode is entitled: The Group's Determination

-episode aired, topic unlocked
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determinat
Post by: Jeannette on October 23 2006, 01:44 pm: We've all been complaining about how bad it is on the other thread. xdxd But, yeah, this episode was very very bad.
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determination
Post by: Capella on October 23 2006, 02:01 pm: Well, I've already complained about the aweful that was this episode, but let me ask - what was that song playing at the end of the episode? It isn't on any of the OSTs for this season - is it another Maaya Sakamoto song, like in Ep. 43?
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determination
Post by: suu_no_clover on October 23 2006, 03:03 pm: The vocals sounded like Yui Makino... hmm. Well, it's fitting that she should sing it, as it's a bit S+S-ish.
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determinat
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on October 23 2006, 03:22 pm: im trying to warn people not to watch the episode...
(http://groups.msn.com/TsubasaReservoirChroniclesOnlineManga/mangascanlinks.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=1688&LastModified=4675594708840832308&all_topics=1)

atleast most hate it. i dont beelive how many ive seen who DO still like it. (those are peopl im begging for summeries, if but 1 or 2 senences) for my guide.
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determinat
Post by: mela on October 23 2006, 08:16 pm: I can summarize my entire line of reasons for why no one should watch this episode:

(http://xs308.xs.to/xs308/06431/bscap150.jpg)
http://xs308.xs.to/xs308/06431/bscap150.jpg

What in the flipping hell?
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determinat
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on October 23 2006, 08:17 pm: oh.
my.
GOD!

i just saw a cap of when mokona kisses kuro-chan...now i want to gouge my etyes out. i want to make a kuro-is-teh-hotness avatar with a miilion shots of Oiki-wanko. kuro-sama...he nolonger exists in the anime. x_x

kurogane desrves a memorial.
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determination
Post by: nefadol on October 23 2006, 09:01 pm: My eyes!Â That is not Kurogane, what the hell are they smoking?! >_<

Screencaps for the whole episode here (http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2006/10/23/tsubasa-chronicle-50/). Not sure if it's good for your vision to look at them though.
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determination
Post by: Kuro-puppy on October 23 2006, 09:31 pm: whoa! Kurogane looked really weird O.o
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determination
Post by: Sabbe-chan on October 23 2006, 10:56 pm: Nothing was good about this episode, the story was awful!
Lately, the animation has been decreasing in quality too. They don't even look cute anymoreÂ :cry:
Baka Beetrain! :angry:
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determination
Post by: Sandra-chan on October 23 2006, 11:28 pm: I complained about this episode in the other tread, and I agree with you others, it was horrible.
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determinat
Post by: tsuki on October 24 2006, 12:47 am: the fillers episodes is better.... even make me angry...
but,the only i really2 angry is....Hien broke!!
why??!! its evil!!
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determinat
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on October 24 2006, 06:50 am: the shots... syao and patch syao floating together.....................why the hell...kruo...yuuko.... :cry:
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determination
Post by: emxyeuxanh on October 24 2006, 09:27 am: if you dont like it don't watch it. simple as that.
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determinat
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on October 24 2006, 10:24 am: Quote from: emxyeuxanh on October 24 2006, 09:27 am
if you dont like it don't watch it. simple as that.
but what aoubt reading about it? and the screenshots. their horible, but its hard NOT to look as well >_<
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determinat
Post by: kester on October 24 2006, 11:49 am: I know understand why Chaos is called the Feather King.

Mokona: Mekyo-kyo-kyo-kyo-kyo-kyo-kyo-kyo

The fan, the bird and Chaos Wings.

Theres enough feathers to end the Anime here. The question is...are those feathers real....
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determination
Post by: sanlyn on October 25 2006, 12:52 am: Not too bad... Love the scene mokona chuu kurogane. Secondly, another sakura image song. Yey!
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determination
Post by: Mari on October 25 2006, 01:18 am: Quote from: kester on October 24 2006, 11:49 am
Mokona: Mekyo-kyo-kyo-kyo-kyo-kyo-kyo-kyo

That was the strangest thing ><
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determinat
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on October 25 2006, 05:49 am: ca
Quote from: kester on October 24 2006, 11:49 am
I know understand why Chaos is called the Feather King.

Mokona: Mekyo-kyo-kyo-kyo-kyo-kyo-kyo-kyo

The fan, the bird and Chaos Wings.

Theres enough feathers to end the Anime here. The question is...are those feathers real....
can someone make a clip of it?
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determination
Post by: Mari on October 29 2006, 04:25 am: Looks like we get the torrent for S25 (51) (http://community.livejournal.com/clamp_now/181824.html) aready.

Quote from: Super Sailor Yue on October 25 2006, 05:49 am
can someone make a clip of it?

If you still want a clip I can make it.
Would you need it on like YouTube or something to see it?
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determinat
Post by: Hack on October 29 2006, 04:45 am: Quote from: emxyeuxanh on October 24 2006, 09:27 am
if you dont like it don't watch it. simple as that.
do you like it? -_-
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determinat
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on October 29 2006, 08:52 am: Quote from: Mari on October 29 2006, 04:25 am
Looks like we get the torrent for S25 (51) (http://community.livejournal.com/clamp_now/181824.html) aready.

If you still want a clip I can make it.
Would you need it on like YouTube or something to see it?
sure. you can put it on yuotube

Quote from: emxyeuxanh on October 24 2006, 09:27 am
if you dont like it don't watch it. simple as that.
i TRY to read the summeries on RC for my guide....near impossilbe btw...the screenshots...mokona's kisses are poisonis for bishonen ninjas V_V
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determination
Post by: Aethelthryth on October 29 2006, 09:32 am: I saw the screencaps...Man, so the green-haired guy episodes haven't finished yet??!?! When the heck is the story going to move on!?!??!
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determinat
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on October 29 2006, 09:49 am: *head hits desk* i shouldnmt have even attepmted to watch the preveiw. seriously, i hoped that this god forsaken arc would be over by ep 25, but tis not. it goes to the end of the season -_- i really truely had hoped for a random fluffy filler. something cute, if not sappy. but i guess not.
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determination
Post by: Mari on October 29 2006, 11:00 am: I hope it's okay if I put it on Zippy Video (http://www.zippyvideos.com/1269515996201716/meyko/) instead ^^;;
YouTube's "death of quality" always get me.

As for EP25, I watched it a little while ago and the animation was nothing like the previous episode.Â It could be because the last episode was just that bad that anything else looks good--but there were some nice soft animated moments :)
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determinat
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on October 29 2006, 01:48 pm: XP mokona;s gonna git a migrain. im G:AD i didnt watch them..."once upon a time..." is one of my faves of ost 4 and i do not want what happened with "Kaze no machi he" to happen with anymore songs. thankfully i am able to LISTEN to the (un)official themesong for kurofai
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determination
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on October 30 2006, 02:41 am: ive been told that at somepoint in 25 or 26...
Show content
the seal on our syaoran either breaks or he goes psycho again -_-

they have NO RIGHT! NO RIGHT AT ALL!!! :angry: : :hmp: :angry:
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determination
Post by: Mari on October 30 2006, 04:32 am: Well, there was this pic (http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a69/Truthseeker48/bscap001.jpg) in as part of the S26 preview, but--I REALLY hope they don't pull something like that ><

I'm wondering about the next episode...because if Sakura is not asleep when they enter Tokyo then it'll be screwed from the beginning.
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determinat
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on October 30 2006, 08:13 am: O_o wheres syao's face? all theydrew was his psycho eye X_O
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determination
Post by: Tatasenko on October 30 2006, 08:49 am: Quote from: Super Sailor Yue on October 30 2006, 08:13 am
O_o wheres syao's face? all theydrew was his psycho eye X_O

this is just Shaolan's face after seeing how ugly he looks in the anime,he will need a therapy to pacify the traumatism,Beetrain has really no pity for children -_-

i remenber that at the beginning of this arc when i first saw the handsome face of the green-haired bad guy i was really enthusiast,i was hoping that Beetrain have started to put some interesting characters to boost the anime,but at the end it is worse than if they have done nothing.

Kurogane and Fai are just spectators,they could have gone for a walk,drunk some tea at a pub,and come back later,nobody would have noticed their absence :sweatdrop:!
Sakura is like a useless doll that we can drag everywhere we want,and Shaolan looks like a star wars' character :dodge:

if this anime was a parody it would have been perfect,but unfortunately this is not the case :angry:
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determinat
Post by: Kazuki on October 30 2006, 08:58 am: Quote from: Tatasenko on October 30 2006, 08:49 am
if this anime was a parody it would have been perfect,but unfortunately this is not the case :angry:

Wait, it's not?? I thought it was... XD
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determination
Post by: Itzeen on October 30 2006, 10:31 am: I agree with the comentaries before, Kurogane and Fai maybe they could take a lovely tour to the country, and Sakura is the most... "mistress in danger" that i've ever saw.... And the drowings... be train is loosing the characters... I'm very furious because the've draw the 4 characters very bad!!!!

I watch all the King caos episodes I was hoping so kind of.... I have big espectations, but when i watch esp 24 and 25.... I was thinking, "bee train is going to spoil more and more the story, in the preview of ep 26 it was some kind of twisted X-Japan world dimention, of CSyaoran loosing complete control, like in the manga in the X world, but truly I hope I'm wrong, ant be train did't do this kind of "big assed stupid action in the story of tsubasa anime.

P.S. I know that tsubasa anime is going to the worst direction, I think we are loosing complete the anime.... but "posibly" change the most important part of the story, is imperdonable.
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determination
Post by: EuphoriaBliss on October 30 2006, 12:18 pm: The characters really look different. Especially Sakura being more hairier around the face, Syaoran's messed-up hair and Kurogane's eyes. But I really "felt" the story, it was heart-warming and sad. I really liked Sakura's insert/image song!^_^~

They really kicked out X-world in this season, probably to avoid the bloody-ness, but I agree with most of you that this may have a different ending then the manga especially since it's ending in the next season. <They might cram eveything in the 3rd season

By the way, who's this Chaos person? I watched eps 49 and 50, but they didnt have subtitles on youtube.^_^''
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determination
Post by: Itzeen on October 30 2006, 01:05 pm: I think they are going to explain about the Back ground of Caos in the last chapter, but, they can put the X world without blood, look the TRC manga and the anime, there's a lot of blood in some worlds in Tsubasa and in the anime, they continue the story but without blood, anyway we have to wait to the anime and then to the translation to nw what realy hapen.
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determination
Post by: nefadol on October 30 2006, 01:29 pm: Blood is rather essential to the story in the Tokyo world though.Â You can't have an arm ripped off, neck slashed, or eye ripped out without it.Â Plus the fact that there are vampires involved and the sharing of blood itself, means you can't really cut it.Â The eye eating and blood sharing have to remain (how they would do this, I don't know), but all of the other gore being removed will cheapen the mood.

The only hope for a good portrayal of the Tokyo world is for them to change broadcasters, which I doubt will happen. I rather wish that Tsubasa had been animated later than it was, that way those in charge would have gotten a better understanding of where this series was headed. This isn't another Cardcaptor Sakura, I think that Beetrain and NHK forgot to check out the rest of Clamp's catalog of works to see what they are capable of.

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I was thinking, "bee train is going to spoil more and more the story, in the preview of ep 26 it was some kind of twisted X-Japan world dimention, of CSyaoran loosing complete control, like in the manga in the X world, but truly I hope I'm wrong, ant be train did't do this kind of "big assed stupid action in the story of tsubasa anime.

Nah, it looked more like they had just destroyed some buildings.Â Tokyo's landscape is that of destroyed skyscrapers and sand.Â I still have to wonder how it ended up like that, perhaps something like what happened in X did happen in that world?
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determination
Post by: Mari on October 30 2006, 02:42 pm: Blood is essential on more than presentation for the Tokyo arc.Â I really don't know how they plan to pull it off....and, honestly, I'm afraid thinking about it.

@ EuphoriaBliss

We don't know the real deal with him altogether yet (other than him being a tool of BeeTrain to totally mess the series) but you can check Random Curiosity (http://randomc.animeblogger.net/category/tsubasa-chronicle/) for summaries of the chapters until the subbed come out. :)
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determination
Post by: Ingenuine on October 30 2006, 07:40 pm: -facedesk-

I thought i'd give the anime a try. One of my favourite manga was animated, heck, why not?

GAH. That...was horrible. Some of season 1 was good, and the soundtrack was beautiful, but WHY must they kill good characters so!?
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determination
Post by: EuphoriaBliss on November 01 2006, 10:08 am: Thanks Mari-san!^_^~
Especially since when I go on to Youtube it's very slow...~_~

But I still think the "Syaoran vows to save Sakura" thing is sad.
Hmmmm.....I guess they're kinda messing it up.
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determinat
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 01 2006, 10:18 am: the waysyaoran is acting, like he wants to give up...wouldnt that be breaking his vow to (big scary) touya to protect sakura, bring her home safe and sound?
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determination
Post by: EuphoriaBliss on November 01 2006, 10:28 am: Oops!^_^'' I'm sorry, the vow was made in episode 51. I got it mixed up.
But still deep down surely Syaoran wont give up. If he says he'll do something then he does it!^_~
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determination
Post by: Tatasenko on November 04 2006, 11:15 am: Clone Shaolan is really unlucky,because he is both a mere doll for CLAMP madness and a slave for Beetrain disaster,no wonder if he has become crazyÂ :haha:!

but for once i have an excuse to explain Beetrain's failure to adapt the manga in anime :
CLAMP have really been avaricious and have given very few informations about the plot of their story!
remenber,we have had to wait 16 tomes to know that we have been bluffed by a clone of Shaolan,and 17 tomes to earn one single panel about Fai's past,so how Beetrain could have managed to organised their work with such mysterious and bottomless characters :okay:?

of course we are complaining about the fact that Fai is totally useless in the anime,but until now we knew NOTHING about him,and evidently we are fed up of the languishing love between Sakura and Shaolan,but again until now Shaolan only aim was to get back the feathers and NOTHING else,in fact he was a empty characterÂ :sweatdrop:

but Beetrain is still unforgivable for the botched work on the animationÂ :angry:
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determination
Post by: Zettai daijoubu on November 11 2006, 10:21 pm: Quote from: Capella on October 23 2006, 02:01 pm
Well, I've already complained about the aweful that was this episode, but let me ask - what was that song playing at the end of the episode? It isn't on any of the OSTs for this season - is it another Maaya Sakamoto song, like in Ep. 43?

yesh.. i was wondering about the song too.. it's really nice!!! (i didn't look through all the threads).. so what's the title of this song? i've searched through Soundscape 4.. it's not there..
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determination
Post by: Kazemon15 on November 12 2006, 05:29 am: Quote from: Zettai daijoubu on November 11 2006, 10:21 pm
yesh.. i was wondering about the song too.. it's really nice!!! (i didn't look through all the threads).. so what's the title of this song? i've searched through Soundscape 4.. it's not there..

It's called Tsuki no Shijima. It's going to be in Tsubasa Chronicle Best Vocal Collection which will release on December 20th in Japan. I think it's sung by Yui Makino.
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 24: The Group's Determination
Post by: tsubasachronicle91 on November 14 2006, 11:00 am: yea i was wondering about its title.Â it is really nice and fits to the episode. well hope the third season is good as the rest of them. :okay: