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Title: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Xiao_Lang on August 28 2005, 07:56 am
Ok, so this is just a question, but recently, on a CCS forum, a debate has occured when people began to say that CLAMP were wrong to end Cardcaptor  Sakura with them as a couple.  :shifty:
They say that CLAMP simply put them together to make it easier for them! (which is so not true)
they say Syaoran is an unkind person who takes advantage of Sakura and Sakura does not really love Syaoran...

I was wondering, what do you say to people who -hate- Syaoran with a passion and who -hate- the s+s relationship with a passion?  :(  :cry:

I try my best to try to prove that Syaoran is not the 'big bad wolf' they make him out to be, and that their relationship is based on true love, but sometimes they don't see my view.  -_-

how do you deal with them?
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Arcademan on August 28 2005, 08:34 am
Tell them they belong together and to say otherwise reflects on how they have dealt with their own relationships in the past.

Cruel...yes I am!  :angry5:
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Shadeslayer on August 28 2005, 08:36 am
Hmmm....That's a little tough. But HOW could people say that?! Syaoran and Sakura are the cutest couple in anime! :keke: Though, I've never really came accross anyone who's ever said that. But then again, everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion so I  guess people could think what they like.

But what to say to them is a different matter. There are so many evidences in the anime and manga that S+S really love eachother and anyone who can't see that is just....well, not very smart. :shifty: And HOW could people hate Syaoran? He's NOT a 'Big Bad Wolf.' Yeah, maybe in the beginning hes a little mean but hes SO nice in the end!

I guess you could just tell them that S+S really do love eachother becuase there are SO many evidences in the anime/manga. And then if they don't just say everyone had their own opinion and walk away.

Blah. Sorry if that wasn't very good advice.... :sweatdrop:
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Moon on August 28 2005, 08:37 am
No idea. I haven't met any that hate their relationship and how in their right mind would hate Syaoran?! o__O; He may have been a little mean in the start, but it's not like he stays that way forever.

But if I ever did, I probably wouldn't handle it too well and get all up in their face about it. T_T;
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: D.J.P on August 28 2005, 08:42 am
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But what to say to them is a different matter. There are so many evidences in the anime and manga that S+S really love eachother and anyone who can't see that is just....well, not very smart.  And HOW could people hate Syaoran? He's NOT a 'Big Bad Wolf.' Yeah, maybe in the beginning hes a little mean but hes SO nice in the end!

I guess you could just tell them that S+S really do love eachother becuase there are SO many evidences in the anime/manga. And then if they don't just say everyone had their own opinion and walk away.

I second this advice :D
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S rel
Post by: Alexiel on August 28 2005, 08:54 am
Something tells me someone has been reading too much fanfiction... rofl!

I never met anyone who disapproved of Syaoran and Sakura YET but as noted, everyone has their own opinions which makes it more intriguing. ^^;; But there IS evidence in the manga/anime that Syaoran likes Sakura. Although Sakura seemed to have been surprised by the sudden confession. o.O"

And I also agree that they're one of the cutest couples in anime ^.~

As for who would hate Syaoran, I have no say in it. xD
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Xiao_Lang on August 28 2005, 09:19 am

But if I ever did, I probably wouldn't handle it too well and get all up in their face about it. T_T;

lol! thats what I often do!

here is something he said!

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Sakura's relationship with Syaoran seems like "a phase." It seems like even though CLAMP wants Sakura+Syaoran to be canon, what is realistic is that this relationship is just "a phase" and will be over with after a few years

:(  so not true!
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Moon on August 28 2005, 09:22 am
Yeah, I agree. :(
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Shadeslayer on August 28 2005, 12:01 pm
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Sakura's relationship with Syaoran seems like "a phase." It seems like even though CLAMP wants Sakura+Syaoran to be canon, what is realistic is that this relationship is just "a phase" and will be over with after a few years

Nope...Not true AT ALL. :(
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: cute_me on August 28 2005, 12:05 pm
but one way or another they will find the way to end together!
i know that they belong together :)
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Cherry-chan on August 28 2005, 12:09 pm
S+S love each other. Don't hate them just because your past relationships didn't work out. Screw you! What did S+S ever do to you? They so obviously deeply love each other. Just be happy for them and let them be you... you jealous person!

(Very harsh. I feel mean now :()
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Moon on August 28 2005, 12:09 pm
That's right! =D
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Cherry-chan on August 28 2005, 12:11 pm
Hehe yup :)
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: moezychan on August 28 2005, 12:15 pm
That is so not true! If it wasn't, CLAMP wouldn't continue their relationship in Tsubasa! As for people who hate Sakura and Syaoran's relationship, I have come across them on the Sakura Hybrid website. Their moderator, The Pie, started a post asking what was your favorite couple in CCS. He said that he liked Sakura & Tomoyo, and then asked what everyone else asked.

At least 95% of the members said Sakura & Syaoran were the best couple and he wrote a rant about what a jerk Syaoran was and that he'd ruin Sakura's innocence! He insinuated that Syaoran would take advantage of her! I didn't really say anything to him, but in a moment of indignancy, I made sure that my avatar was of Sakura & Syaoran.

Also, my sister hates one of my Sakura & Syaoran music videos(I didn't make it, I downloaded it) because there is a scene from episode 57: Sakura, Syaoran, and the Elevator, when Syaoran was at the fountain and Sakura & Tomoyo came, and Syaoran hid behind the fountain and looked over the edge, she said that Syaoran was a spy and perverted. I hit her on the head and shut the music video off. After saying that about 5 times, she knows not to say that anymore. I don't know what I would do if anybody who wasn't family said that they hated Syaoran. At least my other sister likes that video, and even that episode!
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Moon on August 28 2005, 12:35 pm
What? Syaoran a pervent? Haha!! Sure.. he kinda was spying but it more of stealing at glance at Sakura and blushing for how cute she is. Aww..

As for that guy, what a werido. He shouldn't judge Syaoran so quickly. Sakura is still her sweet innocent self only stronger. Ughh.
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: cute_me on August 28 2005, 12:56 pm
syaoran a prevert? jajaja good joke!
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Moon on August 28 2005, 01:11 pm
Off-topic for a second... I love your sig, cute_me. It's so funny! Only.. I can't see it up-close.

OK. Done.  :sweatdrop:
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Miss Jenni-Maie on August 28 2005, 03:58 pm
I believe my exact rude response would be,
"Shove it."
Or something along those lines.

I'm kidding. Everyone has their preferences. I personally love S&S and I believe people that don't, are crazy. But I won't bash them for thinking. I'll just say to myself, "Wow, their crazy."
I'm so peaceful. >_<
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Ralea on August 28 2005, 06:03 pm
My reaction?

*gets a stick and chases them* No, just kidding!

Well, yeah okay, it's possible that I do that though. S + S is such a perfect couple, I hate anyone who hates them.
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Xiao_Lang on August 28 2005, 10:56 pm
lol,

I really tried to argue the point, but I think He is so stubbon. He even said CLAMP were stupid! *gasp*  :sad5:

The guy who said all this, doesn't really grasp the whole nature of CCS anyway

How he can not see that Syaoran is a devoted and kind person I will never understand...
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: cute_me on August 29 2005, 12:54 am
Off-topic for a second... I love your sig, cute_me. It's so funny! Only.. I can't see it up-close.

OK. Done. :sweatdrop:

arigatou! :)
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Strawberry on August 31 2005, 04:36 am
I think its cool that Syaoran and Sakura is a couple, well its better then Yukito + Syaoran or Yukito + Sakura because of the huge age difference.

Anyway Syaoran and Sakura are already together and theres nothing those S+ S haters can do about it now!
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S rel
Post by: Adarian on August 31 2005, 01:04 pm
I can't believe the flame wars that go on over this. At Anime-Forums, they had a huge flame Syaoran thread where people were taking alot of low shots at Syaoran (some were pretty funny, I must admit), but anyway, there was this huge philosophical discussion of how Syaoran was just using Sakura the whole time, and how it's a message to girls everywhere to avoid predators or something like that.....

Of course, this is all fueled by Sakura+Tomoyo supporters, which to me, is the worst anime couple ever. I mean, it would completely butcher Tomoyo's character if they ended up together. Tomoyo loved Sakura, so she wanted Sakura to be happy NOT to be with her. It would really diminish the power of Tomoyo's love if they ended up together.

As for S+S, it's really one of the most popular anime couples in existence. I've never seen a bigger fanbase for a single couple like that, and there is no denying it is a canon in CCS and Tsubasa from the start. They are an extremely compatible couple, and their relationship is very realistic from my personal experience with relationships. They are extremely similar in alot of ways yet completely opposite in others, and they really complement each other quite nicely. CLAMP definately wasn't timid about making them a canon, and that's why CLAMP is so awesome. They always get the coupling right unlike most other animes.
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: xOLight_AngelOx on August 31 2005, 02:33 pm
i would tell those people that they don't know LOVE.
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Moon on August 31 2005, 02:46 pm
That's a little harsh. Maybe they just support a different pairing. ^^;

However, if it was a close friend of mine that didn't like this pairing I probably wouldn't be too happy. >>;
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: xOLight_AngelOx on August 31 2005, 02:47 pm
i knew i was being a little harsh i got too carried away
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Moon on August 31 2005, 02:53 pm
Ah, yeah. I get carried away with ranting about stuff sometimes.
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S rel
Post by: Alexiel on August 31 2005, 03:02 pm
I can't believe the flame wars that go on over this. At Anime-Forums, they had a huge flame Syaoran thread where people were taking alot of low shots at Syaoran (some were pretty funny, I must admit), but anyway, there was this huge philosophical discussion of how Syaoran was just using Sakura the whole time, and how it's a message to girls everywhere to avoid predators or something like that.....

Of course, this is all fueled by Sakura+Tomoyo supporters, which to me, is the worst anime couple ever. I mean, it would completely butcher Tomoyo's character if they ended up together. Tomoyo loved Sakura, so she wanted Sakura to be happy NOT to be with her. It would really diminish the power of Tomoyo's love if they ended up together.

As for S+S, it's really one of the most popular anime couples in existence. I've never seen a bigger fanbase for a single couple like that, and there is no denying it is a canon in CCS and Tsubasa from the start. They are an extremely compatible couple, and their relationship is very realistic from my personal experience with relationships. They are extremely similar in alot of ways yet completely opposite in others, and they really complement each other quite nicely. CLAMP definately wasn't timid about making them a canon, and that's why CLAMP is so awesome. They always get the coupling right unlike most other animes.

Yeah, I totally stand by this statement. :okay:
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S rel
Post by: moezychan on September 01 2005, 12:56 am
I can't believe the flame wars that go on over this. At Anime-Forums, they had a huge flame Syaoran thread where people were taking alot of low shots at Syaoran (some were pretty funny, I must admit), but anyway, there was this huge philosophical discussion of how Syaoran was just using Sakura the whole time, and how it's a message to girls everywhere to avoid predators or something like that.....

Of course, this is all fueled by Sakura+Tomoyo supporters, which to me, is the worst anime couple ever. I mean, it would completely butcher Tomoyo's character if they ended up together. Tomoyo loved Sakura, so she wanted Sakura to be happy NOT to be with her. It would really diminish the power of Tomoyo's love if they ended up together.

As for S+S, it's really one of the most popular anime couples in existence. I've never seen a bigger fanbase for a single couple like that, and there is no denying it is a canon in CCS and Tsubasa from the start. They are an extremely compatible couple, and their relationship is very realistic from my personal experience with relationships. They are extremely similar in alot of ways yet completely opposite in others, and they really complement each other quite nicely. CLAMP definately wasn't timid about making them a canon, and that's why CLAMP is so awesome. They always get the coupling right unlike most other animes.

This is a very good analysis Adarian! I completely agree!
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Xiao_Lang on September 01 2005, 01:07 am
This is a very good analysis Adarian! I completely agree!
I can't believe the flame wars that go on over this. At Anime-Forums, they had a huge flame Syaoran thread where people were taking alot of low shots at Syaoran (some were pretty funny, I must admit), but anyway, there was this huge philosophical discussion of how Syaoran was just using Sakura the whole time, and how it's a message to girls everywhere to avoid predators or something like that.....

Of course, this is all fueled by Sakura+Tomoyo supporters, which to me, is the worst anime couple ever. I mean, it would completely butcher Tomoyo's character if they ended up together. Tomoyo loved Sakura, so she wanted Sakura to be happy NOT to be with her. It would really diminish the power of Tomoyo's love if they ended up together.

As for S+S, it's really one of the most popular anime couples in existence. I've never seen a bigger fanbase for a single couple like that, and there is no denying it is a canon in CCS and Tsubasa from the start. They are an extremely compatible couple, and their relationship is very realistic from my personal experience with relationships. They are extremely similar in alot of ways yet completely opposite in others, and they really complement each other quite nicely. CLAMP definately wasn't timid about making them a canon, and that's why CLAMP is so awesome. They always get the coupling right unlike most other animes.

I agree quite abit with you there! lol. unfortunately, when you try to tell some people this they are too stubbon to listen! *sigh*

That whole thing some people have about Syaoran using Sakura. That really upsets me. poor Syaoran, he is such an amazing character who seems to be so overlooked sometimes. People don't take time to really understand his true nature.
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Moon on September 01 2005, 03:47 am
All the more reason why I heart him. ^_^
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S rel
Post by: Saiyuki on September 01 2005, 04:18 am
What are they talking about?!!
Syaoran is not and never will be a predator!
He always tries to take care of her and make sure Sakura's happy, he doesn't take advantage of her!
What's with these people?
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: harry_kinomoto on September 01 2005, 05:42 am
I was quite intrigued by the prospect of such a radically different viewpoint, and managed to find the forum, the link to which is shown:-http://www.anime-forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=22478&start=50

All can see that is up with most of those people is that CLAMP has done a better job of making Sakura alone endearing than it has of making the prospect of S+S so! Heh well to them, who possess a streak of jealousy that is also quite present in that of Syaoran, all I can say is that they've watched FAR TOO MUCH CCS. Which, I think, is actually a bit too rich coming from a rabid Tomoyo fan such as I and could, to be honest, quite well go for alot of other people here in his forum as well. =P

Indeed, I don't really think Syaoran is particularly hateful or anything-indeed no author would want to make the guy who runs off with the heroine as such would they? It seems much absurd that people would actually say that  "So actually we can also conclude that Syaoran X Sakura took place for economical purposes.". Seriously, they never considered it from a writer's perspective. Even if one wants to think of Art as a cleverly disguised commercialised ploy, it requires a good story before it sells. To have already worked all out towards creating the fans' dream of S+S would mean to pursue it to the end. To suddenly pair him up with someone else would be to contradict many things they'd been doing. It's not just a question of losing fans, but also betraying one's muse as well...

Oh well, that's all I have to say now. It's been an interesting discussion there to be honest. It's worth a look!
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Fye-chan on September 05 2005, 01:45 am
You wrote so much...I only would say: Are you totally crazy????
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: kaori-chan on September 21 2005, 12:33 am
Cherry tiger gave me this site (http://www.whatisthewired.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=001045) in another forum. I thought it was rather... interesting, and a rather long heated discussion/debate.

A fool under the name aktorist claims that the SS relationship is, more or less, pointless/that it shouldn't exist. (Cherry tiger defends SS in a reasonable manner [go Cherry tiger!])

Aktorist/The Reality/Reality/whatever the hell he calls himself should go burn in hell. TwT. *anger*
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: moezychan on September 21 2005, 01:05 am
Cherry tiger gave me this site (http://www.whatisthewired.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=001045) in another forum. I thought it was rather... interesting, and a rather long heated discussion/debate.

A fool under the name aktorist claims that the SS relationship is, more or less, pointless/that it shouldn't exist. (Cherry tiger defends SS in a reasonable manner [go Cherry tiger!])

Aktorist/The Reality/Reality/whatever the hell he calls himself should go burn in hell. TwT. *anger*

I should warn you; Aktorist is on this forum, and he's already flaming S&S. SLi locked a topic that he started.
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Arcademan on September 21 2005, 10:25 am
I should warn you; Aktorist is on this forum, and he's already flaming S&S. SLi locked a topic that he started.

He's being watched...and as a card-carrying member of Cardcaptors Uncensored though he started topics like this and it was civil, he became a spammer there. Shameful indeed.

If there's any questions about any poster or member in particular, please contact a moderator and refrain from talking about them publicly. We like to keep this place flame-free. Thanks for your cooperation in this :)
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: fisah on September 21 2005, 10:36 am
I'd say, dont read TRC and CCS because it kills you with the fluff. And to be frank, I had debated with person as well, and I gave him numerous reason as to why S + S are S+S, and if he still doesn't believe then that's fine.

Also, you shouldn't treat S + S as adults with intelluctal maturity because they dont have that. They are kids who fell in love, love isn't suppose to be questioned, it doesn't need logic, it doesn't need reason, love is love, and SxS have that. Either they are ignorant or blind. And if the person are so mad about it, they should just talk to CLAMP themselves and ask why S+S is S+S! *sigh*
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Arcademan on September 21 2005, 11:48 am
REMINDER!!!

No flame baiting or flame wars are allowed.
(Flame baiting refers to a post that has the intention of creating a flame war)
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: kaori-chan on September 21 2005, 03:43 pm
Ah, gomen nasai~

-_-; I just get really angry sometimes~ Hope I didn't offend anyone~ again, gomen!
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: bLuetopaz on September 22 2005, 03:16 am
well, i dont know why people will WANT to hate the Sakura and Syaoran relationship.. perhaps these people do not know what innocent love is all about.. probably its too innocent that people thought such love do not exist.. and therefore get really jealous.. so instead of being angry.. pity them instead..
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: moezychan on September 22 2005, 04:04 am
well, i dont know why people will WANT to hate the Sakura and Syaoran relationship.. perhaps these people do not know what innocent love is all about.. probably its too innocent that people thought such love do not exist.. and therefore get really jealous.. so instead of being angry.. pity them instead..

I completely agree with you bLuetopaz-san. Words to live by.
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Tooya_Mizuki on September 22 2005, 04:11 am
well, i dont know why people will WANT to hate the Sakura and Syaoran relationship.. perhaps these people do not know what innocent love is all about.. probably its too innocent that people thought such love do not exist.. and therefore get really jealous.. so instead of being angry.. pity them instead..
Amen to that  :keke:.
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: moezychan on September 22 2005, 04:13 am
lol,

I really tried to argue the point, but I think He is so stubbon. He even said CLAMP were stupid! *gasp*  :sad5:

The guy who said all this, doesn't really grasp the whole nature of CCS anyway

How he can not see that Syaoran is a devoted and kind person I will never understand...

If this person said that to me, I would simply say, "If CLAMP is stupid, and you watch them, what does that make you?" And then I'd walk away.
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Tooya_Mizuki on September 22 2005, 04:19 am
If this person said that to me, I would simply say, "If CLAMP is stupid, and you watch them, what does that make you?" And then I'd walk away.
Well said sis  :okay:.
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Marth4 on September 22 2005, 07:42 am
*This is what I would say:

-Can't you see? Sakura and Syaoran talk to each other ALL THE TIME!!! They look so CUUUTE together!!!! Sakura can tell Syoaran's emotions ALL THEM TIME!!!
-Stupid!! Sakura did not rely on Tomoyo's "advice" or whatever! Sure, Tomoyo told her that she loved Syaoran, and maybe it was after that that Sakura realized her emotions for Syaoran, but still!!! if Sakura did not truly love Syaoran, then Sakura would not go through with it! Sure, Sakura has a hard time with her emotions, but still!! She does not need the guidance of others for support on emotions!!!
-Besides, Syaoran talks to Sakura about things all the time! That is AFFECTION I tell you.
-Besides, Syaoran may not like Sakura's crying all the time, but it is not like relationships do not survive with stupid crying!!
--And Syaoran can express his emotions! Well, maybe not, but it is SAKURA who can read them! Sakura can tell Syaoran's emotions!!
-They are both brown haired! They both have magic! And sure, Syaoran at first despised Sakura for being a weak girl who had the cards, but _SYAORAN GOT OVER THAT_!
-As for Sakura loving everyone, WHO CARES! Sakura gave Syaoran _Many GIFTS_!!!
-AND FACE IT! Even though they _MAY_ have needed the help of Tomoyo, Meiling, Touya, Yukito, Eriol, Kaho, and Void, that is only 7 people helping them! That is not much! Besides, if they did not love each other, then they would not get together!
--T&S supporters, YOU SUCK!!!

*That is what I would say
--Is that what you would say?
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: kaori-chan on September 22 2005, 12:55 pm
The last part is pretty harsh. Everyone can support whatever pairing they wish but they should also accept what others think and not diss that couple. Sure, they can hate it all they want, but yelling it out isn't going to change any minds.

^^

Quote from: bLuetopaz
well, i dont know why people will WANT to hate the Sakura and Syaoran relationship.. perhaps these people do not know what innocent love is all about.. probably its too innocent that people thought such love do not exist.. and therefore get really jealous.. so instead of being angry.. pity them instead..

I second that! Wait.. I third that... Eh.. *scratches head*
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: bLuetopaz on September 22 2005, 07:00 pm
If this person said that to me, I would simply say, "If CLAMP is stupid, and you watch them, what does that make you?"
...

well said, moezy-chan! :okay:
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Kuro-puppy on September 23 2005, 03:53 am
i cant believe there are really people like that, but i only feel sorry for those people.
Syaoran is the most caring guy i know and Sakura is funny and cute, they belong together.

And that's final!
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Tessaiga on September 23 2005, 03:59 am
I wouldn't say anything. Why should I speak with people who think like that, anyway?! :evil6:
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Xiao_Lang on September 23 2005, 05:24 am
I think its a little harsh to bash Tomoyo and Sakura supporters.
You can like the S+S relationship AND the T+S relationship perfectly well.
As I do, Iam living proof of that point! lol.
my best friend likes them both too, but she prefers T+S, I prefer S+S. but we both love and support the other couple as well. After all, why shouldn't you be able to support cannon and non cannon relationships. sure they both have Sakura in them, but in your own minds, anything can happen. there can be a world where S+S exist, and another where T+S exist.

 :keke:
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: fisah on September 23 2005, 10:42 am
I think, since their OTP/pairing wasn't working out the way they wanted, they lash out at other pairings. I totally respect others prefences, its just really mean to put down other people just beause they couldn't get what they wanted. Its really immature!

bluetopaz-san, moezy-chan, I totally agree with you! :XD:
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: bLuetopaz on September 23 2005, 12:09 pm
everyone has their own favourite pairing.. and i think its unfair to criticise the pairings.. either Tomoyo & Sakura or Syaoran & Sakura..

you may bash at other people's pairing.. just think what if others bash at your favourite pairing.. won't you be sad as well?
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: moezychan on September 23 2005, 12:14 pm
everyone has their own favourite pairing.. and i think its unfair to criticise the pairings.. either Tomoyo & Sakura or Syaoran & Sakura..

you may bash at other people's pairing.. just think what if others bash at your favourite pairing.. won't you be sad as well?

Exactly my thoughts. Very well said bLuetopaz-san!
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Kuro-puppy on October 26 2005, 05:50 pm
ya got a point there bluetopaz
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Post by: Robin Sena on October 26 2005, 10:13 pm
CLAMP likes to defy stuff.

This one is a good example of it, as well as the other love story parts.

It's a matter of the attachment you have to a pairing.
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S rel
Post by: Cardcaptor Takato on October 27 2005, 01:24 am
If someone hates S x S or Shaoran, then that's fine by me and I'll respect their different opinion because everyone is entitled to their own opinion.  But when they start bashing S x S or trying to prove that their relationship is going to fail or that they're not really in love with each other, that's when I start to get mad.  There's so much S x S evidence that proves the two are really in love each other and it annoys me when people try to twist the evidence around to disprove their relationship.  Like, when (spoiler alert ahead), after Yukito "dumped" Sakura, he said to Toya that the reason why he did was because he knew Shaoran was Sakura's number one and that he couldn't delay her from finding her number one.  If Sakura and Shaoran weren't meant to be together, then Yukito wouldn't have said that.

Sure, in the real world Sakura and Shaoran would most likely break up within several years, but what anti-S x S fans don't seem to realize is that this isn't the real world, this is anime, so the laws of the real world don't apply here.  Just because in the real world S x S might break up a few years after being together doesn't mean they will in the anime world because the world of anime is entirely fictional.  I've noticed that in my experinces in dealing with anti-SxS fans is that they try to disprove S x S by using real world rationale but it's pointless to use realistic means to disprove a made-up fantasy couple, especially in a series as highly unrealistic and fantasy as CCS is.  And if someone hate S x S so much that they have to nitpick at every little thing about it that they don't like that isn't really that big of a deal, then they seriously need to get a hobby because CCS is just a magical girl anime that we like just for fun and entertainment and they're making too big of a deal about it.  I just wish we could all get along and respect each others opinions instead of trying to attack each other's favorite couples.
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Post by: Robin Sena on October 27 2005, 02:12 am
Cardcaptor Takato - I think the "get along" part ain't going to happen.

Seriously, this is going to last forever. And mind that this part is just a "mild" one. I've seen even worse.

It's a fans will after all.
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: babypigggy on October 27 2005, 11:33 am
It should be respected >.> but then..it depends on what they say about them!
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Robin Sena on October 27 2005, 03:37 pm
I sense, yes.

But both sides have to do so in order for it to work.

Both relationships are good in one way of the other.
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: cardcaptor519 on November 07 2005, 02:26 pm
Something tells me someone has been reading too much fanfiction... rofl!

I never met anyone who disapproved of Syaoran and Sakura YET but as noted, everyone has their own opinions which makes it more intriguing. ^^;; But there IS evidence in the manga/anime that Syaoran likes Sakura. Although Sakura seemed to have been surprised by the sudden confession. o.O"

And I also agree that they're one of the cutest couples in anime ^.~

As for who would hate Syaoran, I have no say in it. xD

i agree, and whoever disapproved of s+s they should watch the whole anime and read the whole manga and think again...because they are the most kawaii anime couple EVER!!^^
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Monse-chan on November 08 2005, 11:55 am
i agree, and whoever disapproved of s+s they should watch the whole anime and read the whole manga and think again...because they are the most kawaii anime couple EVER!!^^

I totally agree!!! Well, maybe sometimes there are people that are way to dense, and have their own opinions. But it is pretty obvious that they are destined to be together NO MATTER WHAT!!!
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: SasukeRocks on November 08 2005, 11:59 am
I just give them my evil look and tell them there must be something lose in there
head because Syaoran and Sakura are so ment to be together no matter what.
It even says that in the first TRC manga.
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Ruruku on December 07 2005, 10:41 am
...lokk at them in disgust and never talk to them again cause u know they r a lost cause!.......
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Arcademan on December 07 2005, 11:18 am
...lokk at them in disgust and never talk to them again cause u know they r a lost cause!.......

A little harsh me thinks...

If they don't understand the relationship, that's their loss...no need to hate them for it.
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Cherry tiger on December 07 2005, 09:55 pm
I agree... I've met my fair share of people who didn't like this relationship. And sometimes it's not because they really hate it, rather they didn't like it and find other relationships more interesting. I don't mind... besides, I'm happy enough loving this couple cause they always give me this certain joy about love. ^^ Nyaa...

Anyway, if someone were to think I'm stupid for liking this coupling, I might give them a death stare... not because they hate S+S, but they're hating something that is my preference which is none of their business.

Talk to those people who hate S+S and just lay out the reasons why you like this coupling. Make sure the reasons are plausible though... saying that "It's because they're cute and adorable!" has, in my opinion, became quite stale and easy to argue back with. But ah well... whatever works with you, I guess. ^^
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: moezychan on December 07 2005, 11:34 pm
That is a very good response Cherry Tiger! It gave depth, reason and support. That deserves a cookie!
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Post by: Eriol on December 08 2005, 11:58 am
Oh damn!!!!I don't really hate their relationship 'cause it's just destiny and the song: "Ebony and Ivory,got together in perfect harmony".Those people are saying that they hate them is just a big fool!!! :okay:
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: ishiyaki on January 12 2006, 02:15 am
that's false! :angry: s+s is the best couple of anime!! :noteworthy: :noteworthy: :noteworthy: :noteworthy: :noteworthy:
everybody says this!furthermore, if clamp created trc, it would be because syaoran and sakura's love is autentic! :inlove: :inlove: :inlove:
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S rel
Post by: Sarah Jane on January 12 2006, 02:53 am
If they don't like Sakura and Syaoran, then fine.
It's not set in stone, that you HAVE to like them, now is it?
Even if it is obvious that they love each other.
If someone dislikes them, then they dislike them.
End of story.
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S rel
Post by: LSD on January 12 2006, 12:10 pm
for me... well they have their right to think anything they want.. but they have to respect my oppinion
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Sugar Fairy on January 12 2006, 01:29 pm
i guess some people disagree simply to be disagreeable, or  to be contrary to what is popularly believed..
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S rel
Post by: Hikari B. on January 16 2006, 12:06 pm
Personally, I'd stay silent, never talk to them again, and take out my anger about them in my blog.

Okay... That seems harsh. But, I'll actually respect their opinion and like babypiggy said... It depends on what they say. ^_^
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Shiunu on January 17 2006, 11:48 am
Well I haven't really encountered anyone who hasn't liked the S + S relationship. So I wouldn't really know what to say to them.
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Sohru-san on January 18 2006, 05:50 am
Have they even seen the whole series!? They they see the part when the love card arrived in the anime? The Love Card prooved they were meant to be together! >< I can't believe anyone would say anything like that about this couple because they're so beloved!

He's probably just trying to get you upset. It's only a couple and they're only characters. Don't get yourself so worked up over them. ;)
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S rel
Post by: Hikari B. on January 18 2006, 11:50 am
^ Sohru-san's right. It's not THAT big to get upset over, even if SS are the cutest. >.>
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: jocelin on February 08 2006, 10:33 pm
Hmmm... It's a hard question...
I also never met someone who hate S+S relationship...
They are so perfect together... How could people dislike or even hate their relationship?  :sad5:

But I also agree that everyone has their own opinion.
I'll say that I disagree with them but I still appreciate their opinion.
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S rel
Post by: charcoalz on March 07 2006, 04:20 pm
that situation, would scar my life forever
like seriously, how can someone disagree about the most kawaii couple throughout ALL of the anime series?! (this is my opinion, btw. I'm sorry if there are cuter couples in other animes....)
S+S forever for me =)
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Hack on March 07 2006, 04:24 pm
i never heard any bad things about the relationship between S and S
they don't know....-_-
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S rel
Post by: Eriol on March 09 2006, 11:39 am
Oh well!!It's like envy so they hated them and don't worry about it,that's in their minds and only time can tell!! :okay:
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Star Wings on April 11 2006, 04:38 pm
I don't know anybody here where I live who hates S and S and don't even know anyone who likes CCS here so far, but if the situation comes up I will just say "What are you thinking? Thery're perfect for each other!"  I don't don't think that anyone would dare say that they don't agree with the relationship of the two though, I mean who can?  They are so kawaii together and they love each other so much.
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S rel
Post by: Asuka on April 11 2006, 05:01 pm
Yeah its the same with me, I dont know anyone where I live thats even heard of anime O__o
If it ever came up I'd probably think/say that they're weird or havent watched the show properly I mean how can you not love S & S togerther, theyre just so cute!
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: ~Bloody_Rose~ on April 11 2006, 05:18 pm
uh.. me.. i hate S+S.. *fangirls shooting water gun at me* hehe.. just joking...

If i meet these people, i'll tell them:

"Fine! hate them! no one asked you to love them! just remember! there are almost 1B in the population of earth who is loyal to them... and i think im one of them... do you want to die at young age?"
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Nightbird on April 12 2006, 11:59 am
First of all they should take a deep breath and maybe see the sun a bit. It's fiction. Let us enjoy our fantasies.
Though my sense of logic chimes in at the oddest moments and makes me question if anyone is that sure about who they love when they are 10. When I was in 4th grade we were still pretty girls-play-with-girls-hate-boys phase. People didn't start dating until 6th grade,and those relationships never lasted long.I have heard of high school sweethearts,but with the divorce rate as high as it is...

Is the Sakura+Syaoran relationship realistic?
Has anyone met their true love when they are 10?

Please don't take offense at anything I say, these are just my honest reflections on love that I haven't felt.
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Shiunu on April 12 2006, 12:10 pm
I get what you are saying Nightbird. I kinda thought that was funny how they were only 10 but truly loved each other. I mean I don't really think someone could fall in love when they're 10. But maybe CLAMP didn't really aim for that certain age limit, they just maybe thought that they would be a cute couple being younger. But I mean its anime/manga so I mean I guess it could go against being a realistic relationship. I mean it seems real to me, despite both of them being so young. Just cute, young love! Lol.

Okay did that even make sense or am I just rambling on?  :sweatdrop:
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Nightbird on April 12 2006, 12:20 pm
It made very much sense.

But what will happen when Syaoran & Sakura reach puberty?Boys are more for physical side of relationship at that age,girls want emotions(at least I do) it will shake their relationship.
What if Syaoran becomes a playboy? :D

I'm glad Transformers don't have those parts...
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: bie liao on April 12 2006, 12:36 pm
In a lot of the fanfiction I saw before I became a CCS fan, I remember thinking, "Jeez, all of these stories involve Syaoran being a playboy of some kind...I wonder if that's the way he really is?" I came into reading it thinking that he was like that, then got surprised again when he was a somewhat cold but very sweet young boy.

And as to the reality of their relationship...what's realistic about a girl who can control magical cards and is the strongest magician on the Earth, all at the age of 10.  Isn't it just as likely to fall in love at that age?  I mean, look at Chiharu and Yamazaki.  They've been together since kindergarten and they are still in love.

Puberty and conflicting emotions and feelings are going to be a problem for them, but aren't they problems for all teenage couples?  All relationships go through problems, and just because they start off young doesn't mean that they can't get through it.  I mean, they got through all of the CCS problems just fine.  I think a few fights and different opinions are gonna be a piece of cake for those two.
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Shiunu on April 12 2006, 12:38 pm
I agree bie liao! You said that perfectly!
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: moezychan on April 12 2006, 12:40 pm
As much as I want to join in on this discussion, and you all know I do, you're getting off-topic  :sweatdrop:

And though a bit outdated, we do have a thread for this: http://www.capturedwings.net/forums/index.php?topic=1540.0

And it's along the rules since it's on the second page.
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Shiunu on April 12 2006, 12:42 pm
As much as I want to join in on this discussion, and you all know I do, you're getting off-topic  :sweatdrop:

And though a bit outdated, we do have a thread for this: http://www.capturedwings.net/forums/index.php?topic=1540.0

And it's along the rules since it's on the second page.

Okay moezy-chan! Let's all move our discussion to there guys!
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Cherry-chan on May 01 2006, 12:03 pm
*pelts person with rocks* DIE! FOR YOU HATE S+S!! Haha, if they provided sufficient evidence for disliking the couple, I'd probably just shrug and say, "it's you loss!". But yeah, I'd pelt them with rocks if they just said, "I hate S+S together." *takes out flamethrower*
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S rel
Post by: hyrodante on May 01 2006, 12:04 pm
Hmm I would say, Your just jealous because you have no girlfriend!
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S rel
Post by: Mimie on May 29 2006, 12:01 am
I'd stare at them and say, "Gosh! You are soooo outdated! They ARE officially canon, y'know? Just keep your opinion to yourself!" Haha! I wish!
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: AirKitty on June 13 2006, 07:41 am
I would say " Man.. do you even read or wathc the series!!?" I mean come on! My little sister hates anime and magna but when i showed her CCS she automaticlly only wanted to read for S&S moments! And if tehy say the read the WHOLE series and the WHOLE anime series well then.....  :violent5:
That speaks for its self.
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Ashlee on June 13 2006, 07:55 am
Well lets say, no one around me, will live to say that they hate the S+S relationship. If they are even about to say some thing about it, they will die. Its not a funny matter, they will die

mwahahahaha
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: tsubasachronicle91 on June 13 2006, 08:08 am
how could that NOT like this relationship...these two are perfect...these are the best couples in anime...for CCS and TRC that is...but as other people said...everyone is entiled to thier own opinion
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Hack on June 13 2006, 08:18 am
i'd say, " oh, maybe you got the name wrong, or something..you can NOT hate CCS or anything that has to do with it
because im gonna make you like them XP" haha
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Kuro-pipi on June 13 2006, 03:56 pm
*shrugs* I say that everyone has a right to their own opinion, so long as they are not forcing that opinion on anyone else. Some people may not be pleased with the pairing, but again that is their choice.

You can't call them stupid unless they are calling you stupid for adoring Syaoran x Sakura.  x3
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S rel
Post by: Tenkuuken on June 13 2006, 04:07 pm
...I don't have to say anything because it's canon. No matter how many time we try, we'll just end up with the SakuSyao pair. We'lll always end up with the CAAAAA-NOOON.
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: marielaure on August 27 2006, 06:01 am
I would say "You do not know anything about this serie 'cause it's the cutest couple that everyone love in this serie!"and if he do not undersand why,then he's a stupid boy(or girl)
(lol)  ;) :)
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Zettai daijoubu on August 28 2006, 06:55 pm
i would say "you don't know how hot Syaoran is and how cute and sweet they look together!!!"

nevermind they are 10 year old.. i already seen them as teenagers even when they are in CCS.. I mean they don't have the thinking of 10 year olds.. and neither do they do magic.. (actually no one does.. lol.. ^^)
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Yummy Candy Bear on August 28 2006, 09:50 pm
If they hate S and S relationship:
In TRC:
* give them a bunch of flowers* Yay you're like me. Congratulations! Here's your card to join the TRC SandS hater club!( I wonder if we have one O________________o) * clap*
In CCS:
* red flaming eyes*
HOW DARE U! * take out a gun* BANG! BANG! FREEEZE~ * shoot in the hed*
Hehehehehehe JK. But you have your own oppinion. But yeah why do you hate them? They're just so cute kawaii cool lovely adorable amazing child-ish, innnocent truthful kind-hearted!
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: EuphoriaBliss on August 28 2006, 10:03 pm
I'd listen to them rant on then if they ask me,I'd say "We are so on opposite sides..."
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Cherry tiger on August 28 2006, 11:25 pm
If they hate S and S relationship:
In TRC:
* give them a bunch of flowers* Yay you're like me. Congratulations! Here's your card to join the TRC SandS hater club!( I wonder if we have one O________________o) * clap*

I don't know why, but I find that very insulting. But hey, it's your choice... and if you don't like the pairing then be my guest. I can't stop you... -___-
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: princesslore on August 28 2006, 11:40 pm
I'd say something like "give me at least five GOOD reasons for you to hate their relationship and I'll forgive you" (XD meanie!)
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: marielaure on September 01 2006, 11:59 pm
You could forgive those guys?!I could 'nt!!!!It's so sweet when they're together!
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: princesslore on September 02 2006, 07:37 am
You could forgive those guys?!I could 'nt!!!!It's so sweet when they're together!

Well, I could forgive them... but I didn't say I wouldn't hate them!!! MWUAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! XD!!!

Nah! Just kidding! :tongue: Everyone has different opinions
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S rel
Post by: Hima on November 22 2006, 02:44 pm
I would get angry (of course) but I would just be cool - and shove all the evidences to their faces.
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S rel
Post by: Tenkuuken on December 08 2006, 01:00 pm
To each his own, probably... :XD:
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S rel
Post by: Sokasato on December 08 2006, 01:57 pm
O.O Wha-? Why?!!!

Hmm..but if the person thinks Syaoran is hot I'll forgive em.
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S rel
Post by: Kaze no Shikyo on December 13 2006, 01:55 pm
I just kick them to prove my point :P +.+;
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Hima on December 14 2006, 01:56 pm
I would wonder at first if they really know enough of the anime to hate SxS.
Title: Blue sky
Post by: Sky on January 29 2007, 11:35 pm
Hmm......
Syaroan is sometimes kinda tough or unkind like little stubborn
but i go to admitte his not a unkind person at all
And still S&S is the cutest anime couple ever seen(to me not to everyone maybe)

support you.....
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Midsummer-snow on January 30 2007, 08:17 am
I think some fans would dislike the coulpe just because they wanted Sakura/ Syaoran to themselves lol. I was chatting to one of my friends on deviantart about SyaoranxSakura and she got really mad at me and said "Sakura is such a bit*ch!! Syaoran loves her so much why can't she see that!! I wanna be her!!" and proceeded to rant about how much she didn't like SxS simply because she was jealous ^_____^;;;;;
Then again I'm an absolutely hopeless Fai-girl but still love Kuroxfai ....
Anyway if they said they hated SxS I wouldn't hold it against them but I would probably give them a wierd look like: 'How COULDN'T you love them???"  Heehee!
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Takeru on January 31 2007, 04:43 am
Throughout this thread, people have replied that "it's impossible, because it's canon, and CLAMP meant it to be that way".

I would get angry (of course) but I would just be cool - and shove all the evidences to their faces.
It's not about evidence.

I would wonder at first if they really know enough of the anime to hate SxS.
It's not about knowledge.

I'd stare at them and say, "Gosh! You are soooo outdated! They ARE officially canon, y'know? Just keep your opinion to yourself!" Haha! I wish!
It's not about being outdated.

...I don't have to say anything because it's canon. No matter how many time we try, we'll just end up with the SakuSyao pair. We'lll always end up with the CAAAAA-NOOON.
And it's most definitely not about canon.

You're taking this discussion in the wrong direction. It's not about what is official, or true, or possible, it's about what fans want. Some people don't care if it's canon, some people don't care if CLAMP meant it to be that way. Maybe they wanted Sakura to be with someone else. Perhaps Tomoyo. That is an established couple, no matter how you look at it, and even if it's not canonically two-sided, some fans like to extrapolate on the idea that Sakura and Tomoyo may indeed become lovers in the future.

Personally, I'm a devout S&S fan. But I'm also a devout S&T fan. I think the relationship Sakura shares with everyone in the anime is very important to take into consideration, and while Sakura x Syaoran is predominant, Sakura x Tomoyo is no exception.

In fact, if Sakura and Tomoyo had shared a kiss in the series, I would have been insanely happy.

If they don't like Sakura and Syaoran, then fine.
It's not set in stone, that you HAVE to like them, now is it?
Even if it is obvious that they love each other.
If someone dislikes them, then they dislike them.
End of story.
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Midsummer-snow on January 31 2007, 06:19 am
What does canon mean?? ^____^ Sorry! lol I've never heard the term used before XD XD
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Takeru on January 31 2007, 10:53 am
Something that is "canonical" is something that has been set in stone by the writers of the original fiction, and truly genuine in the history of the series.

In essence, the Card Captor Sakura anime and manga series is considered "canon", as it reflects true events within the story that were decided by the authors, CLAMP. Any corresponding fan-fiction, invented by people other than CLAMP, would be considered "non-canon". Basically, any fiction about Card Captor Sakura that is not written by CLAMP is non-canonical.

To become a little more complicated, Syaoran and Sakura falling in love with each other is a canonical event, because it happens in the series. Syaoran and Sakura marrying and going on a honeymoon is not a canonical event, as it does not happen in either the manga or the anime.
Title: Re: What do you say to people who hate the S+S relationship?
Post by: Xiao_Lang on March 29 2007, 06:10 am
Personally, I'm a devout S&S fan. But I'm also a devout S&T fan. I think the relationship Sakura shares with everyone in the anime is very important to take into consideration, and while Sakura x Syaoran is predominant, Sakura x Tomoyo is no exception.

In fact, if Sakura and Tomoyo had shared a kiss in the series, I would have been insanely happy.


:) I am a devout S&S fan too however...

S&T have a beautiful relationship. It tears me apart watching the anime and reading the manga sometimes knowing that Tomoyo loves Sakura so dearly but will never be with her in the way she would wish.
Tomoyo never ends up with sakura (in my opinion) because she is meant to be SO kind and unselfish that she never fufils her love. This way her character is set in stone and remembered as being the beautiful kind hearted girl with unrequited love for her best friend.
(if she did end up with Sakura that wouldn't be so) however, I also would have liked her to express her love in a kiss or something :) that would have been cute.