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Title: Chapter 133
Post by: kudan on October 26 2006, 02:41 am
here
http://ladydarkmoon.livejournal.com/126524.html
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Post by: Emiko on October 26 2006, 02:42 am
ARGH NO! Seconds before I have to go back to school?! *cries*

DAMN FASHION CLASS.

Well, good that they'll be waiting for me I guess. Aha ^_^
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Post by: mela on October 26 2006, 02:43 am
Oooh, thank you!
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Post by: Moro-dashi on October 26 2006, 02:43 am
o_O ::At work. Violating SEVERAL acceptable use policies as we speak.::
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Post by: Capella on October 26 2006, 02:46 am
Oh thank you. *Downloading* I was worried they'd come out after I'd gone out. I can rest easy now.
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Post by: Sandra-chan on October 26 2006, 02:46 am
YES!!! FINALLY!
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Post by: Tatasenko on October 26 2006, 02:47 am
okay,here we go for the chapter of confession  :rotfl: !!!
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Post by: Mari on October 26 2006, 02:47 am
OMG!  That third colored page!!
It's such a difference from their usual!

Ah!

The scans are so beautiful.
Fay looks so sad :(
I love the little memories page

Thank you!!
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Post by: Blue on October 26 2006, 02:51 am
Oo, look's like a good chap. Just want the translations now.

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Love the cute Fye/Sakura moments, thoough. xD
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Post by: mela on October 26 2006, 02:51 am
Hmmm, maybe the dialogue makes up for all of it because it wasn't exactly the excitement I expected XD. I guess I can't really judge without knowing what they're saying.

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That sideways glance Kurogane gives Fai before he has his angst flashback? Lol.

And there goes Yuuko, pulliing out the "hitsuzen" card again.

Tomoyo is SO CUTE.
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Post by: Mari on October 26 2006, 02:53 am
Are we allowed to discuss 133 here?  Or do we have to wait for the other 133 to be unlocked again...? ^^;;
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Post by: falka on October 26 2006, 02:57 am
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OMG! I feel so sorry for Fay! look how long his hair is, he must've been kept in this cell for ages! someone hurt him so much, no wonder he's like that! Kuro must comfort him RIGHT NOW!!!
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Post by: Sandra-chan on October 26 2006, 03:00 am
Hope a full translation comes soon too.
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Post by: Tatasenko on October 26 2006, 03:04 am
Are we allowed to discuss 133 here? Or do we have to wait for the other 133 to be unlocked again...? ^^;;
the last topic of chapter 133 will certainly be deleted,the real begins now  :wink:

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FAI IS CRYING on picture 13!!!
at first i couldn't believe it and i thought that the drop on his cheek was due to the rain,but by looking at his face closely there is no doubt :
a tear is leaking at the corner of his eye,it is THE FIRST TIME  :okay:
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Post by: Moro-dashi on October 26 2006, 03:09 am
Oi. I bet this is what a heroine addict feels like right after they get thier fix.

Seriously. ..Can Kurogane GET any hotter?
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Post by: Snow-chan on October 26 2006, 03:36 am
Now the day is perfect and it softens the knowledge that I have only one day off tomorrow before three more of work considerably! :)

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It is all I hoped for with little extras - like young Kuro!
Hmm, I can't see the tear in page 13, though?! That would count among the extras for certain. The way both we and Fai is led to understand that now there is something to live for is lovely, from the ?dungeon it jumps to Sakura in Fai's arms. *dies at the sad smile on pg 15*
At the end they look so determined - I can't wait for the translation to clear the second half of the chapter (the first has been made easier to understand by the spoilers)
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Post by: Gabys! on October 26 2006, 03:38 am
I wish I knew japanese T.T
This chapter seemed to be an explanatory one....
I can't wait to read a translation!!!
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Post by: Blue on October 26 2006, 03:44 am
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About the tear, you mean this:

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/7995/13xj9.gif

That doesn't look like a tear to me, just the rain dripping from his hair. Besides it's highly unlikely for him to just start crying right there. More of a sad face really.
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Post by: Tricky on October 26 2006, 03:58 am
AH! Finally! *waiting for it to download* Thank you so much! ^.~

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Beautiful! Yuuko looked especially beautiufl in that color page and I love Tomoyo''s shot as well.
The Fai part wasn't what I was expecting, and it was really dark, but I think it helped add to the fact that Fai was so alone, so there weren't many details in his life then save for emptiness. >.<
Favorite Part:
Sakura could tell that Fai was in pain so she tried to reach for his hand to comfort him, and when he noticed, he took his other hand in hers to reassure her.
Fai-mommy is such a darling, and Sakura's kindess will never die!
Really amazing....

I wanna hear about Wata-kun!!
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Post by: Paccy on October 26 2006, 04:03 am
*waiting for it to download.*
Finally. I've been angsting about this all day... So glad the scans are finally here... *bliss*
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Post by: ArikiaCrystal on October 26 2006, 04:11 am
Holy crap!! Am in shcool now!!T_T and i cant download anything!!! Its too cruel!!T_T Want my beloved chapter!!! Do anyone know where i can find the chapter online?!?! onegaii!!!!
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on October 26 2006, 04:14 am
downloads going sooooo sllloooooow *__*
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on October 26 2006, 04:27 am
Holy crap!! Am in shcool now!!T_T and i cant download anything!!! Its too cruel!!T_T Want my beloved chapter!!! Do anyone know where i can find the chapter online?!?! onegaii!!!!
it wont apear on the grupo tiill we get clean scans and a translation

is there a page mssiing? wheres the end quotation?
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Post by: Meowzy on October 26 2006, 04:36 am
*downloads*
Iiiiiiih! *_*
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Post by: Paccy on October 26 2006, 04:40 am
it wont apear on the grupo tiill we get clean scans and a translation

is there a page mssiing? wheres the end quotation?

You don't have an end quotation? Isn't it in page 24?
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on October 26 2006, 04:42 am
partialtranslation posted by Neither:

http://www.tsubasachronicle.net/forums/showthread.php?p=90746#post90746

You don't have an end quotation? Isn't it in page 24?

all i see is yuuko and Rsyao and fai. no quote thingy
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Post by: Kazuki on October 26 2006, 04:43 am
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You guys are probably going to want to kill me but... Geez enough with the Fay x Sakura moments ¬¬

It's starting to bother me seriously! Because in the translation Pikari made, it says that in that part where Fay's hand is trying to reach at nothing he's thinking "someone please" to come and take him out right? I was hoping it would be Kurogane to do that, but aparently cute little Sakura-chan is the one who will bring hapinness to Fay and take him out of the darkness ¬¬'

Yes, I'm a jealous KF fan u_u
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Post by: Blue on October 26 2006, 04:50 am
^ lmao

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I'm totally the opostie, I absolutely love all the cute Fye/Sakura moments, more so than any KuroxFye moments. Well, that might be because I really ain't all that fangirly over that pairing. xD *dodges things thrown*
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Post by: Sabbe-chan on October 26 2006, 04:50 am
YAY! Thank you soo much for this chapter!
*goes to read right now*
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Post by: Meowzy on October 26 2006, 04:51 am
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Poor Fay and his chapped lips... V_V
Man, his was hair LONG! How long was he inside that prison, exactly? His back reminded me of princess Emeraude, in a way. Eheh... ^^'

Poor Watanuki... He looks so sad and in pain and KO...
*wants to hug him*

I disagree with everything said about FayxSakura. Seriously. There is no way Fay would have feelings like that for Sakura, or the other way around. It's just plain motherly love.
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Post by: Kazuki on October 26 2006, 04:53 am
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Gyyaaa no no! I didn't mean they're gonna fall in love or anything like that!!!

It's just that in my lovely fangirl mind, Kurogane would be the one to help Fay with this matter, but it's obviously going to be Sakura ._.
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Post by: Paccy on October 26 2006, 04:54 am
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You guys are probavly going to want to kill me but... Geez enough with the Fay x Sakura moments ¬¬

It's starting to bother me seriously! Because in the translation Pikari made, it says that in that part where Fay's hand is trying to reach at nothing he's thinking "someone please" to come and take him out right? I was hoping it would be Kurogane to do that, but aparently cute little Sakura-chan is the one who will bring hapinness to Fay and take him out of the darkness ¬¬'

Yes, I'm a jealous KF fan u_u

I kinda actually agree with you.
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I don't like the thought of Sakura being the solution to all their problems... I mean, it was very sweet with the Fay/Sakura hug at the end of ch. 132, but it would be ridiculous if she were to be Fai's 'saviour'. Kurogane, start comforting Fai, dammit! >.<
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Post by: Blue on October 26 2006, 04:56 am
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I didn't mean anything about love/romance either. I don't think I'd approve of a mother(ly)/daughter pairing. xD
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Post by: Mari on October 26 2006, 04:57 am
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You guys are probably going to want to kill me but... Geez enough with the Fay x Sakura moments ¬¬

It's starting to bother me seriously! Because in the translation Pikari made, it says that in that part where Fay's hand is trying to reach at nothing he's thinking "someone please" to come and take him out right? I was hoping it would be Kurogane to do that, but aparently cute little Sakura-chan is the one who will bring hapinness to Fay and take him out of the darkness ¬¬'

Yes, I'm a jealous KF fan u_u

Hehe ^^;;

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But, I really do think that Kuro is the one who is going to help Fay in the end.
Sakura has the gift to hear lonely voices so that's probably why she reached out to him...she's a comforter.  She can feel and understand his pain but the bond Kuro and Fay have is much different.

Her looks are nothing to Kuro's little look on page 12, though. ;)
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Post by: Emiko on October 26 2006, 05:03 am
*copies and pastes from msn convo with mela*

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About all the Sakura/Fainess...

I think Sakura's the only one who Fai feels it's safe to care about openly.

Kurogane's way too close and it freaks him out, so he's pushing him away. He crossed the line with Kurogane so he's trying hard to re-establish that line. He's probably still not entirely sure about Syaoran. It seems like he recognizes that they're the same, but Syaoran DID rip his eye out. And it's harder to be all cuddly with a boy.

And Kurogane gave up his blood for him. So I think that their relationship is probably still going to be the most significant. And Sakura heals everyone because that's what Sakura does.

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Post by: selenityshiroi on October 26 2006, 05:04 am
Well, that just took me 6 attempts with sendspace.  I can't believe that I'm the first one to mirror the yousendit download.

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Fay!  With long hair!  (hey, it's MY length!  let me brush it!)  There isn't really a lot to say on this chapter.  We are getting lots of hints about things but the only solid plot we are getting a clue into is Fay being a prisoner.

Gah, CLAMP do this too often.
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Post by: Mari on October 26 2006, 05:07 am
*copies and pastes from msn convo with mela*

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About all the Sakura/Fainess...

I think Sakura's the only one who Fai feels it's safe to care about openly.

Kurogane's way too close and it freaks him out, so he's pushing him away. He crossed the line with Kurogane so he's trying hard to re-establish that line. He's probably still not entirely sure about Syaoran. It seems like he recognizes that they're the same, but Syaoran DID rip his eye out. And it's harder to be all cuddly with a boy.

And Kurogane gave up his blood for him. So I think that their relationship is probably still going to be the most significant. And Sakura heals everyone because that's what Sakura does.


Running off your convo...someone also brought this up @ a LJ commnunity, which I felt was very well put.

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"Fai, who finds it difficult enough to trust in people, was “betrayed” by Clone!Syaoran and punished for his trust by the loss of his left eye, of half his magic. He was “betrayed” in his own mind by Kurogane, by being kept alive, and by turning into a vampire.

Sakura, the delicate cherry blossom with the huge heart, is the only one who hasn’t “betrayed” him. The appeal of Sakura’s character is her goodness and her sense of justice, which is something real, and something that Fai needs right now.

So Fai’s intent to go after Sakura in 132 demonstrates a purely selfish impulse to protect the only person one Fai can allow himself to care about without fear or complications."

@bigdoggylove

-ish....maybe...?
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Post by: Paccy on October 26 2006, 05:16 am
Running off your convo...someone also brought this up @ a LJ commnunity, which I felt was very well put.

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"Fai, who finds it difficult enough to trust in people, was “betrayed” by Clone!Syaoran and punished for his trust by the loss of his left eye, of half his magic. He was “betrayed” in his own mind by Kurogane, by being kept alive, and by turning into a vampire.

Sakura, the delicate cherry blossom with the huge heart, is the only one who hasn’t “betrayed” him. The appeal of Sakura’s character is her goodness and her sense of justice, which is something real, and something that Fai needs right now.

So Fai’s intent to go after Sakura in 132 demonstrates a purely selfish impulse to protect the only person one Fai can allow himself to care about without fear or complications."

@bigdoggylove

-ish....maybe...?

Oooh, I didn't think of it that way. Makes sense now. xP
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Post by: Jeannette on October 26 2006, 05:24 am
...Dude, Fai's hair. Now -that- is what I call hair.

I really love this chapter. Finally some genuine backstory for Fai. <3

And of course it will be Kurogane who'll 'save' Fai, if you want to put it that way. It wouldn't fit with the story if it were Sakura. (Which is why the whole Sakura Croft adventure annoyed me. But yeah.)
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Post by: Mari on October 26 2006, 05:26 am
And of course it will be Kurogane who'll 'save' Fai, if you want to put it that way. It wouldn't fit with the story if it were Sakura. (Which is why the whole Sakura Croft adventure annoyed me. But yeah.)

...it annoyed you?

Aww.  I just noticed that Sakura's eye is all bloodshot in the splash :(
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Post by: Emiko on October 26 2006, 05:27 am
Well. Think of it this way:

Fai keeps saying he wants someone to 'take him away' and to 'stay by his side'. NOw, can you imagine Sakura staying with him forever? No. She's gonna marry Syaoran. Sure, they might be all friendly if everything works out and Fai stays in Clow for some reason, but somehow I doubt that's what Fai needs. And really, who else but Kurogane has incentive to stay with Fai forever (especially with the blood thing)?
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Post by: Sandra-chan on October 26 2006, 05:39 am
In the translation page 17-21 isn't translated... Has anyone translated them?
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Post by: Kazuki on October 26 2006, 05:41 am
I agree with the theories... It's just that sometimes I don't know what to expect from Clamp... They do have the annoying habbit of throwing hints that lead nowhere in the end (I'm talking about the BL couples) and it seems to me that is gonna be the case in TRC... someone smack me in the head! I need more KuroFayness!
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on October 26 2006, 05:41 am
give neither and FK some time. they work hard onm the translations ^^

i cant use my new avatar anywhere biit here. itss too big. this board is the only one i use without a size restriction V_V
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Post by: Sandra-chan on October 26 2006, 05:48 am
Ok, I just wondered, but I hope they translate them soon. :)
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on October 26 2006, 05:51 am
neither says theres only 2 pages left.

is there or isnt there a pgae missing? i dont see the "end caption" on the last page.
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Post by: Lady_Spirit on October 26 2006, 05:53 am
Finally it downloaded. ^^ I was scaryed I'd have to wait to tomorrow.
And so many theories...is it possible to agree with all of them?

I hate it when you guys start saying things like 'CLAMP love to toy with their fans' and other stuff along those lines. Tsubasa and XXXholic are the first of the CLAMP mangas I've gotten really into. ^^;;
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Post by: Sandra-chan on October 26 2006, 05:57 am
neither says theres only 2 pages left.

is there or isnt there a pgae missing? i dont see the "end caption" on the last page.

oh,sorry I didn't see that they updated with new translations..
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Post by: Mari on October 26 2006, 05:59 am
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If FWReed was after body memories, then what's the deal with Dr. Kyle?  Use the feather to lure the group into the places FWReed wanted them to go....?
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Post by: Tatasenko on October 26 2006, 06:12 am
Fai sure needs a haircut !
according to his little height and the lenght of his hair we can assure that he has ALWAYS been kept captive since he was born,so that he has NEVER seen the outside world and even a single human,not knowing either why he has been isolated from the world  :(!
imagine how rude it must have been for a little child to have grown alone in the darkness,and since he has got a long life because of his magical power he may have been jailed for an eternity  :sad5:!
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Post by: selenityshiroi on October 26 2006, 06:22 am
Fai sure needs a haircut !
according to his little height and the lenght of his hair we can assure that he has ALWAYS been kept captive since he was born

Um, I have hair down to my bum and it took me 4 years to grow from my chin.  I would say that is 4-5 years of hair growth for him (since chibi-Fay is shorter than me and therefore has less length to grow).  I don't think that is all of his life.  He's probably closer to 7/8.  Of course, he was still YOUNG but I don't think he was born into captivity.
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Post by: Itzeen on October 26 2006, 06:22 am
FOR GOD SAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT IN THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I only need the translation of the las 2 pages, but this is amaizing, I realy never espected this.... so now xxxHolic & Tsubasa are gong to be more conected tha before???? And what with Fai????? I have a very bad feeling of this.... I think that Fai is going to die at the end of the series........ maybe.........

I love this, realy...........
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Post by: dark_persian on October 26 2006, 06:23 am
Wow... What a lovely thing to come home to after a long day at work!!

This chapter was great! Sakura finally get's some explinations about her powers and Fei Wong's plot. We get to see Fai with super-fairy-princess Rapunzle hair and the Fai/Sakura mother/daughter moments were the most adorable ever! ^^ I melted!

And come on people! Of course there is absolutely nothing more to Fai and Sakura's relationship than maternal to child. CLAMP has worked hard to establish Kurogane and Fai as the 'parents' of this little family unit that has developed.
Why bother dubbing Fai "Fai-mummy" just to have him fall for Sakura (or vica versa)!!?! That would just be confusing mother/daughter style incest!
Fai and Sakura's relationship is as innocent as a box full of newborn kittens. I love that relationship and I really wish people would stop trying to see it as something it's not.
Sheesh! Sakura comes back a mangled, bloody reck after getting her nails ripped out and her head smacked in while trudging through acid rain - Fai gives her a hug and holds her hand and all of a sudden he's romantically in love with her?! Ridiculous.
CLAMP supports soulmate pairings! Sakura and Syaoran are soulmates and that is never going to change.

Right now, Sakura and Fai have a lot in common. They've both lost something very important and they're both in a lot of pain. Syaoran, Sakura's main protector is gone. It's only natural that Fai would comfort, console and take care of Sakura while he's gone.
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Post by: envyofthestage on October 26 2006, 06:37 am
POOR FAI!

*much love for him* I can't wait to see more of his past. It's so exciting.
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Post by: mizunotsubasa on October 26 2006, 06:39 am
Translation are up http://inarikami.livejournal.com/16058.html?view=199098#t199098
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Post by: ishiyaki on October 26 2006, 06:53 am
Wow, thank you very much!!
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Post by: aqiaqua on October 26 2006, 06:55 am
OMG It's here!!!

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Phweee~ Fye's past, Fye's past, I love you clamp!
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Post by: nefadol on October 26 2006, 06:56 am
Translation are up http://inarikami.livejournal.com/16058.html?view=199098#t199098

Thanks, that cleared up quite a bit.

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I had to go back and hunt for the chapter in xxxHolic where Yuuko talks about the earrings on the Mokona's (all the way back in volume four), about the two different sides.  White Mokona is the magic side, and the black Mokona is the sealing side.  One was for the group/Syaoran the other for Watanuki.  The two sides was brought up again in this chapter, but Yuuko referred to it as "two futures".  Watanuki's spiritual powers are crazy and those from the spirit world know about and want his power.

I'm really thinking FWR had something to do with his parents deaths now (they died protecting him, right?), perhaps Watanuki has something to do with ruining his plans?  He's obviously quite important to Syaoran.  I really hope they clear some of this up next week in xxxHolic. >_<

Fay is so sad, he seriously needs many hugs.  This chapter reminds me of what Mokona had said to Fay back in Outo about how Sakura makes one feel happy, and Fay had looked at her with a bit of a sad look.  I think she kinda melts his shell that he's put up.  Kurogane is going to have to deal with him for the long run though.

[edit] - Oh yeah, Fay also gave us a real smile for once!  Forgot about that. :keke:
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Post by: [~Dark Chocolate~] on October 26 2006, 07:04 am
*sigh* that was great ^^!
I like the splash pages^^
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Post by: KratosAurion on October 26 2006, 07:21 am
No slots avaliable for download.... is this like megaupload or i just have to wait till there's space?

edit: nvm, it's downloading now
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Post by: dark_persian on October 26 2006, 07:33 am
I'll upload it to Megaupload for those who can't find a slot. :)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NUST0BNH
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Post by: Elenath on October 26 2006, 07:37 am
The chapter was beautiful. Everyone looks wonderful, specially Kurogane and Fye!Poor Fye... his past must've been something traumatizing. I bet his childhood was the darkest of all four...

Did anyone notice or was it just me? :spoilers: Fye's little hands were... skeletical- I bet he not only suffered of thirst and severe cold, but of starvation too. I mean.. just look at his fingers! Gangrene caused by the cold, thirst and lack of food.. let's not even talk about how lonely it must've been... no wonder the little guy wanted to die... :/spoilers:
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Post by: INU on October 26 2006, 07:42 am
*dies of happiness* now I can finally sleep through the night.

People, about the hair - it depends on what kind of a person he is, too. For example, even if for one person it took 4 years to grow it out that long, for another person (aka, me) I've been growing my hair out all my life (14 years) and it's only down to my butt. Think genetics. We really can't guess depending on ourselves, because everyone is different.

But I'm soooooo glad that this is out. I'm glad Yuuko's finally sharing some share-able info. And I'm not so worried aobut Sakura adn Fai falling in love, because it's different, adn besides, Mommy's and Daughters gotta stick up for each other, right?

Though now, I expect a flood of fanfics about Ashura and Fai's relationship again. ^____^''
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Post by: AkaiYuki on October 26 2006, 07:50 am
Oh, MY!

Well THIS chapter was certainly a shock! I dunno what I was expecting little Fai to look like, but that sure as heck wasn't it!!! LOOK at that LONG hair! (Ha ha; take THAT Tsubasa Ending Sequence 2! No happy rainbows and foxes for THIS little Fai!)

WOW. That's all I can say is WOW. And I REALLY hope CLAMP lets us see that past. Watch, those two pages will be all we see of it for six months or so.. XD That'd be bad.. Really, I don't think that'll happen, though! I'm just kidding. XD (I hope..)
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Post by: KratosAurion on October 26 2006, 07:51 am
*cries* i wish i could read japanese :(
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Post by: Capella on October 26 2006, 07:58 am
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This chapter manages to add a few more pieces of information we didn't know before. So, we've got little Fai being locked up, but nothing else on the backstory front *sigh* Since that was at the end of the summary I thought it might be leading in to more flashback, but I guess not.

In one translation, something about how certain people have to maintain the balance in the universes - presumably Yuuko, Clow, and other powerful people. I wonder if that relates to why so many people in different dimensions knwo of Yuuko - are they also ones who must maintain the balance? And I wonder how Tomoyo, and above all real!Syaoran, came to know about Fei-Wang's plan. It looks like it's up to our heroes to find out what FWR's wish is for us, though.

Sakura's power is a little hazy - so she can store in her body a "memory" of any world she visits? And the point of scattering the feathers was so that she would travel to many different worlds? So eventually her body would become like a catalogue of worlds, or something? What's the use of that? *ponders*
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on October 26 2006, 08:12 am
Fai sure needs a haircut !
according to his little height and the lenght of his hair we can assure that he has ALWAYS been kept captive since he was born,so that he has NEVER seen the outside world and even a single human,not knowing either why he has been isolated from the world  :(!
imagine how rude it must have been for a little child to have grown alone in the darkness,and since he has got a long life because of his magical power he may have been jailed for an eternity  :sad5:!
thats probably why he loves and chereishes hisfreindship with the others, he;s also very afriad to lose them because of him, so he tries to push them away at the same time.  (reminds me of hat episode this season, where their on the boat with "good ryanban" (whatever his name is)  and chibi-fujitaka...when wyaoran fell overboard...it was FAI who yelled the loudest... maybe beetrain had something there :S)
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Post by: envyofthestage on October 26 2006, 08:29 am
I think he's gorgeous with his long hair!
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Post by: ArikiaCrystal on October 26 2006, 09:28 am
I love this chapter!!! Now i can sleep with a real happy smile^^
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Post by: whatever on October 26 2006, 09:29 am
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Wow, this chapter sure ushers the story along. I've been suspecting since I first got introduced to TRC, back in May, that our bad guy Fei Wang's situation was similar Zagato's in Magic Knights Rayearth. Both willing to destroy a world, or worlds in FW's case, for the sake of love. Begging us to ask, is it evil of him to do all this (imprison Syaoran *and Fai?*, clone Syaoran, scatter Sakura through time and space, kill Kurogane's mother, etc.) to bring back the person he loves? Clamp seems to like to reuse their themes alot. I don't have a problem with that, I like meeting Clamp's new creations like Kurogane and Fai. Anyone else notice on the gothic/lolita splash pages that Fai and Kurogane's poses very similar to Kazahaya and Rikuo's of Legal Drug chapter 4?
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Post by: Toge-chan on October 26 2006, 09:55 am
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This chappie was really revealling. Fai was a prisioner? Like whoa. o_O;; Also he was repeating "i want to die" wasn't he? Hmm. So I was right. Fai is suicidal.

I'm shocked.Nothing else to say. o.o;
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Post by: Jeannette on October 26 2006, 12:49 pm
Jamie has her translation up. (http://iamsocool12345.livejournal.com/36795.html)

A few thoughts now that I've thought about the chapter.
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I've expected for a good long time that Kurogane's mother and father were killed to get Kurogane to go on the journey. I'm glad that was confirmed. ^_^

The memories of the body concept actually isn't new in TRC- if you remember, Mokona actually first mentioned it in Shurano, when Sakura kissed Syaoran on the eye.

With Fai being held captive for apparently years, there seem to be some interesting parallels between Fai and R!Syaoran's past. I hope Clamp does something with that.
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Post by: Zettai daijoubu on October 26 2006, 01:07 pm
erm.. i have some problem downloading the scans! does anyone of u have the same prob? and is there another source?
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Post by: Capella on October 26 2006, 01:18 pm
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The memories of the body concept actually isn't new in TRC- if you remember, Mokona actually first mentioned it in Shurano, when Sakura kissed Syaoran on the eye.

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It's not quite the same. What Mokona talked about in Shura was sort of an elaboration on "muscle memory" - that Sakura's body remembers actions it has performed, so she can repeat them and remember in that way. This is Sakura's body remembering things that she has never experienced, and things unrelated to its own movements - the worlds it's in when it's asleep. It's related, but a different idea, I think.
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Post by: Jeannette on October 26 2006, 01:45 pm
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It's not quite the same. What Mokona talked about in Shura was sort of an elaboration on "muscle memory" - that Sakura's body remembers actions it has performed, so she can repeat them and remember in that way. This is Sakura's body remembering things that she has never experienced, and things unrelated to its own movements - the worlds it's in when it's asleep. It's related, but a different idea, I think.
Hmm, well, this is what Mokona says:

"There are two types of memory. What the conscious mind remembers and what the body remembers. The conscious mind is very important, but the body is really important too. Sometimes when the mind forgets, the body remembers for it."

There is a diference between her body repeating the actions it once took and making memories of the world she's been in, but they clearly both fall under the 'body memories' concept Clamp introduces here, which is really what I meant. All in all, the scene was definitely foreshadowing for the explanation in this chapter. (Besides, even if she's asleep, she's still experiencing being in that world, isn't she?)
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Post by: Capella on October 26 2006, 01:55 pm
There is a diference between her body repeating the actions it once took and making memories of the world she's been in, but they clearly both fall under the 'body memories' concept Clamp introduces here, which is really what I meant. All in all, the scene was definitely foreshadowing for the explanation in this chapter. (Besides, even if she's asleep, she's still experiencing being in that world, isn't she?)

It's definitely foreshadowing, and they are in the same category, I agree. The idea that the body remembers worlds just by being in them in is still about +6 magical wonkyness from Sakura kissing Syaoran's eye because her body remembers having done that (or something like it) before, in my opinion.
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Post by: Jeannette on October 26 2006, 02:01 pm
It's definitely foreshadowing, and they are in the same category, I agree. The idea that the body remembers worlds just by being in them in is still about +6 magical wonkyness from Sakura kissing Syaoran's eye because her body remembers having done that (or something like it) before, in my opinion.
Lol yeah, it's a pretty big stretch in a way. It still hasn't been explained exactly what use the body memories can be though, obviously, so there are still a huge amount of unanswered questions about the concept. The phrase '+6 magical wonkiness'- I must remember that.
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Post by: Giraffe-o-Life on October 26 2006, 02:15 pm
*wibbles* So much love for the mommy+daughter snuggliness in this chapter!
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Oh, poor little Fay! He looked so tiny and frail, with the snow pouring in and his little arms reaching for the bars of a window he was to short to even see out of... :sad5:
Other than that, the plot development was great in this chapter. It's nice to finally be clued in to what FWR's been doing. And Yuuko was beautiful in that first cover page.

So how many more chapters before Kuro passes out from exhaustion and blood-loss and the stench of that old, old shirt?
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Post by: tsuki on October 26 2006, 02:40 pm
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Im glad that the scans are out.Hmm...this chapitre is a bit sad...Im also glad that Kurogane's mother murderer was solved.DA*N Fei Wong Reed!!He knew that R!Syaoran knew that is his doing!!So,thats why he kidnapped R!Syaoran...and created another Syaoran...Umm!!Was Fye cried??Anyone guess what little Fye want to say???I think he gonna say "I want someone to...kill me"  :sweatdrop: And Sakura remember her father!!I thought she didn't remember...And all of them(R!Syaoran,Kurogane,Fye) became Sakura's companions...is also "hitsuzen" I might think that Fei Wong Reed dream is to counquer the Clow Country...Oh no!!What happened to Watanuki???I haven't download xxxHOLiC manga!!Now,thats the spoiler of xxxHOLiC!! >_<
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Post by: nefadol on October 26 2006, 02:53 pm
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Im glad that the scans are out.Hmm...this chapitre is a bit sad...Im also glad that Kurogane's mother murderer was solved.DA*N Fei Wong Reed!!He knew that R!Syaoran knew that is his doing!!So,thats why he kidnapped R!Syaoran...and created another Syaoran...Umm!!Was Fye cried??Anyone guess what little Fye want to say???I think he gonna say "I want someone to...kill me" :sweatdrop: And Sakura remember her father!!I thought she didn't remember...And all of them(R!Syaoran,Kurogane,Fye) became Sakura's companions...is also "hitsuzen" I might think that Fei Wong Reed dream is to counquer the Clow Country...Oh no!!What happened to Watanuki???I haven't download xxxHOLiC manga!!Now,thats the spoiler of xxxHOLiC!! >_<

What happened to Watanuki was
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that he fell out of a second story window due to Himawari's bad luck.  She took on his scars, Doumeki gave blood, and we still don't know what Syaoran gave exactly or how he has a close tie to him.
  He's fine, don't worry. :keke:
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Post by: tsuki on October 26 2006, 03:07 pm
thank you nefadol...but,i want to read it myself...
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Post by: Hira on October 26 2006, 03:32 pm
The memory of the body...
I think what might help understand that concept is to go back to remember what are some of CLAMP's most cherished philosophy/principles for life.

Of all the philosophies they have proposed, the one most closely linked to this concept would have been the same concept that was being dealt with in CLAMP's debut work- RG Veda and their most renowned tragedy X.

First of all, every action counts. This has been reiterated by Yuuko over and over.

Second, both stories talked about how the interaction of the people can alter the future. The love between Asura and Yasha was an example, and in X, there's always the motif of the grinding gears.

I think CLAMP do believe in fate with the Hitsuen idea, but they probably do not believe that fate is an absolute power, but rather, the series of interactions amongst the livings (hence, the gears in X).

Sakura's memory of the body... probably meant the role which she plays in each of the world she travels since she wakes up. Even a single action CAN affect the future, doesn't it?

Fei Wong, by obtaining the power to manipulate every dimension, would find it easier if there is just ONE PERSON who has played some kind of role in each of the worlds.
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Post by: mizunotsubasa on October 26 2006, 03:43 pm
So basically Sakura is just being used by FW.
>:{    I do hate him. I can't wait until the next chapter comes out.

I do adore Sakura and Fay intereaction here. XD

So do you think Tsubasa is finishing soon. Now that the gang knows that FW need Sakura's body. I don't think that the guys would allow FW to get Sakura.
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Post by: tsuki on October 26 2006, 04:21 pm
scans in english is out now!!
http://groups.msn.com/TsubasaReservoirChroniclesOnlineManga/ch133.msnw
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on October 26 2006, 06:42 pm
i didnt do them this time. their badly flawed, FWR's middle name and calling watanuki "this kid" rather then "this child" >_<
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Post by: Xiao_Lang on October 26 2006, 07:09 pm
Downloaded even though Iam at collage and violating all terms of useage. pffft screw that, I need my Tsubasa fix. XDD

The colour pages are lovely. Yuuko looks gorgeous, and on the double one, everyone looks so punky/gothic XD awesome. :)

I'm really starting to wonder if Tsubasa is coming to some sort of close any time soon... *wibbles*
thank you for the link to the english scans. that was really useful :)
anyway, I'm supposed to be working... lol
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on October 26 2006, 07:11 pm
dont worry. this is the start of tank 18, theres ATELAST 3 more full tanks to go :)
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Post by: Tatasenko on October 26 2006, 07:46 pm
Was Fye cried??Anyone guess what little Fye want to say???I think he gonna say "I want someone to...kill me" :sweatdrop:

i don't think that Fai was going to say that he wanted someone to kill him,because if you read closely he said "i want to die BUT before someone..."
so it rather means that he wished TO SEE someone before dying,peharps because he has never seen a single human until then and that he wanted to be sure that he was not already dead,or maybe because despite all his despair he still believed that someone would come to save him :okay:
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Post by: tsuki on October 26 2006, 08:04 pm
yeah,Tatasenko!!its my mistake...
he said
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i want to die but before that....i want to be loved by someone...before i die...
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Post by: su_chan on October 26 2006, 08:39 pm
There is something that bugs me a bit
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if Fay had not seen an human, how did he learn to talk? magically? He was closed there by 'humans' and was old enough to remember. Silly people cheated by FWR that believed he was dangerous.... the crazy side of my mind thinks he hurt his parents or even killed them by mistake but I hope that side of my mind is wrong............or was put there by his aprents just becasue they were terrfyed by him.... knowing Clamp his parents must be involded into this  :wink: 
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Post by: dark_persian on October 27 2006, 01:20 am
There is something that bugs me a bit
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if Fay had not seen an human, how did he learn to talk? magically? He was closed there by 'humans' and was old enough to remember. Silly people cheated by FWR that believed he was dangerous.... the crazy side of my mind thinks he hurt his parents or even killed them by mistake but I hope that side of my mind is wrong............or was put there by his aprents just becasue they were terrfyed by him.... knowing Clamp his parents must be involded into this :wink:

Fai can't have been put there for no reason. Perhaps the person/people that put him there believed that he was dangerous. Maybe Fai did something that proved he was dangerous.
Either way, I don't think Fai would have been in there since birth. Let's see... If he was 4 or 5 when he was put in there, 4 or 5 years inside to let his hair get that long... could make him 8 to 10 in the flashback. He would have had time to learn how to talk before he was emprisoned I suppose. And there must be someone feeding him! If even just a little. I don't think even mages can go for 4-5 years without food can they?! 0_o
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Post by: Snow-chan on October 27 2006, 01:42 am
I am reminded of the feather in the Lecourt world by
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Fai's past, the feather/book was also kept under lock and key, so to say, because it was so powerful and at the same time feared. The difference is of course that to do that to a person is horrible, while it could be counted as reasonable if it was an inanimate object.
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Post by: Tatasenko on October 27 2006, 01:52 am
And there must be someone feeding him! If even just a little. I don't think even mages can go for 4-5 years without food can they?! 0_o

at least we understand better now why Fai loves to do cooking,he has been deprived of food for so long  :keke:

the scene where Fai is moaning plaintively that he desperately wants to die reminds me the scene in front of the bar Clover in Oto country when Kurogane told Fai that "he couldn't die"  :surprised:...
this chapter seems to affirm this theory since chibi Fai looks like a zombie,totally scrawny  :sweatdrop:!

the truth may be more awful than we think,peharps that Fai really can't die from "natural causes" like hunger,thirst or illness,so that only someone else could take his life away,and so he has certainly been kept captive without even the "freedom" to suicide himself to put an end to his suffering  :sad5:
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Post by: Mari on October 27 2006, 02:55 am
the truth may be more awful than we think,peharps that Fai really can't die from "natural causes" like hunger,thirst or illness,so that only someone else could take his life away,and so he has certainly been kept captive without even the "freedom" to suicide himself to put an end to his suffering :sad5:

;_;  I never thought on that point.
How horrible.

By the way, is it true that no TRC next week?
I know someone put a post up on the 132 thread but I couldn't find it.


Never mind, I found out. :)
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Post by: Snow-chan on October 27 2006, 03:09 am
the truth may be more awful than we think,peharps that Fai really can't die from "natural causes" like hunger,thirst or illness,so that only someone else could take his life away,and so he has certainly been kept captive without even the "freedom" to suicide himself to put an end to his suffering :sad5:
That has been my understanding of the matter ever since the "can't die" line in Oto, I immediately classified him (whether truthfully or falsely, but being so immersed with Tolkien's universe, I could not think otherwise unless it will be proved totally different)as someone of "limitless serial longevity" as JRR Tolkien put it when speaking of his Elves.  The latter could only "die" if slain or of heart-break and we have seen that Fai could probably not even die of the last one.
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Post by: Emiko on October 27 2006, 04:43 am
By the way, is it true that no TRC next week?
I know someone put a post up on the 132 thread but I couldn't find it.


Never mind, I found out. :)

Nope, there's one out next week. November 1st I think it is. And Holic's out then, too. Hurrah.
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Post by: Mari on October 27 2006, 04:59 am
Nope, there's one out next week. November 1st I think it is. And Holic's out then, too. Hurrah.

Wait--really?
In Ladydarkmoon's journal she says there's only xxHolic.
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Post by: KratosAurion on October 27 2006, 05:22 am

the truth may be more awful than we think,peharps that Fai really can't die from "natural causes" like hunger,thirst or illness,so that only someone else could take his life away,and so he has certainly been kept captive without even the "freedom" to suicide himself to put an end to his suffering  :sad5:

I never thought of it that way, but it makes so much sense! I always wanted to know why he can't die, if he wants to die he can just kill himself or something... so you have a very good point here!
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Post by: mizunotsubasa on October 27 2006, 06:18 am
yup it true, Chibiyuuto just  confirmed it.
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Post by: mizunotsubasa on October 27 2006, 06:20 am
I just went to clamp-net news page and it says no chapter nov1.
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Post by: envyofthestage on October 27 2006, 07:08 am
Maybe, it could be that Fai can't die...or rather won't let himself die (just likeSyaoran) because there's something he has to do first...i.e. Be loved.
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Post by: Touei on October 27 2006, 07:14 am
Dx No chapter next week again? Mff. At least we have xxxHOLiC.
And, uh, page 13 that I quickly/messily coloured earlier out of boredom~
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/8905/faippage1cnt9.png
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Post by: Jeannette on October 27 2006, 07:17 am
Dx No chapter next week again? Mff. At least we have xxxHOLiC.
And, uh, page 13 that I quickly/messily coloured earlier out of boredom~
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/8905/faippage1cnt9.png
That's lovely, I think. T_T Poor Fai. *gives cookie*

Oh yes, btw, I added you as a friend on LJ- I'm von-questenberg. You might have noticed. ^^;
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Post by: Mari on October 27 2006, 07:18 am
Dx No chapter next week again? Mff. At least we have xxxHOLiC.
And, uh, page 13 that I quickly/messily coloured earlier out of boredom~
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/8905/faippage1cnt9.png

Beautiful! :)
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Post by: Kazuki on October 27 2006, 07:21 am
Dx No chapter next week again? Mff. At least we have xxxHOLiC.
And, uh, page 13 that I quickly/messily coloured earlier out of boredom~
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/8905/faippage1cnt9.png

I can't find words to describe how much I absolutely loved this O-O
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Post by: Michigirl on October 27 2006, 08:21 am
does anyone have a full size pic of the splash page? with great image? please?
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Post by: Emiko on October 27 2006, 09:14 am
Wait, what? There's actually no chapter next week? Where did everyone see this? This is what I got off chibiyuuto's journal:

10/11 - Shonen Magazine #45 - Chapter 132 (on sale).
10/18 - Shonen Magazine #46 - No Tsubasa scheduled.
10/25 - Shonen Magazine #47 - Chapter 133 - 3 color pages, beginning of tank 18.
11/01 - Shonen Magazine #48 - Chapter 134.
11/08 - Shonen Magazine #49 - Chapter 135.
11/15 - Shonen Magazine #50 - Chapter 136.

Did Clamp change the dates around or something? 'Cause it wouldn't be the first time.
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Post by: Airashii on October 27 2006, 11:21 am
Kawaii Chapter! I think that Fei Wong dream is to bring someone back to life. And Fai...Poooooooooooooooor Fai!
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Post by: Zettai daijoubu on October 27 2006, 11:54 am
(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0XADlAl8danJWuBolAMiPFQX9jH7L2a3LasCt6SaL7U0y7bxpIXRTscaDfuVth7ML7YffkwMywKMle!sPhIwH0ZMp6sNmZ4PJPs0bGOfIC99p0YxHX3YINGKix3khO62AkiU!ywgJJpw/13.JPG?dc=4675595113149546448)

[edit: i tried to upload the pic but imageshack is hanging up on me.. anyway that pic is from pg 13 of this chapt]

that long haired guy holding onto the bars is fai?!?!?! when i first saw it i thought it was chii and fai was thinking about what is happening to chii back in his country.. it's weird for chii to keep saying "i want to die i want to die" anyway..

ok it just looks weird.. but it seems everyone think it's fai so it shall be fai.. long haired fai
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Post by: KratosAurion on October 27 2006, 11:58 am
woot finally I could read this chapter! There's a couple of things I've been wondering about:

1) what's so special about Kurogane and Fai? why did FWR choose them for the journey and not someone else? My guess is because Tomoyo and Fai are two of the very few people that can cross dimensions, otherwise it seems more like he picked them randomly or something..

2) who the hell is Watanugi? ^^. Sorry for my ignorance, but I haven't watched xxxHolic yet. does anyone bother to tell me a bit about this guy and his relationship with R!Syaoran?(of course i'd be best without spoiling, cause i'm planning to read xxxholix in the future)

3) what does Yuuko mean by "For the sake of two futures"?
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Post by: Zettai daijoubu on October 27 2006, 12:03 pm
^ yesh.. i've been wondering about yukko's "two futures" too! maybe she means Watanuki (a character in xxxHolic) and Syaoran's future?.. since Syaoran said "thank you" after Yukko said about the 2 futures i assumed so.. any other derivations?

anyway did anyone noticed that fai was holding out his third finger in the splash page?! xD
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Post by: Emiko on October 27 2006, 12:06 pm
(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0XADhAl8danJWuBolAMiPFQX9jH7L2a3LasCt6SaL7U0y7bxpIXRTscaDfuVth7ML7YffkwMywKMle!sPhIwH0ZMp6sNmZ4PJPs0bGOfIC99p0YxHX3YINGKix3khO62AkiU!ywgJJpw/13.JPG?dc=4675595113149546448)

that long haired guy holding onto the bars is fai?!?!?! when i first saw it i thought it was chii and fai was thinking about what is happening to chii back in his country.. it's weird for chii to keep saying "i want to die i want to die" anyway..

ok it just looks weird.. but it seems everyone think it's fai so it shall be fai.. long haired fai

Well, Fai's profile and the kid in the cell's profile are pretty similar, so I think that's why we all think it's Fai. Plus the way the hair is drawn is very reminiscent of Fai's hair.

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d146/treesbleed/comparison.jpg)

>_> Darn automatic re-sizing! It looks more convincing at normal size: http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d146/treesbleed/comparison.jpg

woot finally I could read this chapter! There's a couple of things I've been wondering about:

1) what's so special about Kurogane and Fai? why did FWR choose them for the journey and not someone else? My guess is because Tomoyo and Fai are two of the very few people that can cross dimensions, otherwise it seems more like he picked them randomly or something..

2) who the hell is Watanugi? ^^. Sorry for my ignorance, but I haven't watched xxxHolic yet. does anyone bother to tell me a bit about this guy and his relationship with R!Syaoran?(of course i'd be best without spoiling, cause i'm planning to read xxxholix in the future)

3) what does Yuuko mean by "For the sake of two futures"?

We don't know much about Watanuki's relationship with Syaoran at all, only that he [Syaoran] paid to help him out with something before the story even started (exactly what I won't say so as to avoid spoilers ^_^) Watanuki doesn't seem to know anything about Syaoran save that he appeared at Yuuko's shop and is travelling dimensions, since he was there in the background when everyone arrived at Yuuko's shop and saw the whole thing.

He can see spirits. He works for Yuuko in exchange for her eventually granting his wish, which is to not see spirits any more. He goes on missions for her and cleans and cooks around the shop, essentially. He's like her slave XD

And as for 'the sake of two futures'... I think Yuuko might have meant the future of the group and Watanuki's future (perhaps him AND some of the other Holic characters?), since he seems to be connected more directly than we originally assumed
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Post by: tsuki on October 27 2006, 12:19 pm
Znuese!!thats awsome!!
i really like that!!you deserve a cookie!!
the colouring....makes me crazy!!!
coz...it is tooooo beautiful!!!!! >_<
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Post by: Zettai daijoubu on October 27 2006, 12:26 pm
oh yesh! the image i was trying to upload was Znuese's image!!! the one with that long hair guy and hair.. so we can assume that fai has long hair in the past when he was trapped in that cell?! and why was he trapped in that cell?
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Post by: tsuki on October 27 2006, 12:34 pm
oh yesh! the image i was trying to upload was Znuese's image!!! the one with that long hair guy and hair.. so we can assume that fai has long hair in the past when he was trapped in that cell?! and why was he trapped in that cell?

I think chapitre 134 will tell us....i fell really sorry for him...poor little Fye... TT_TT
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Post by: nefadol on October 27 2006, 01:04 pm
It should also be mentioned that Clow knew about Watanuki, Yuuko had made a comment on how both of them thought he was a good child.  Also when she's talking about the two Mokona's it shows Syaoran/Sakura and then Watanuki.  He's tied to Clow somehow or another, on that I'm pretty sure.Yuuko said that him and Syaoran have a close tie, but as of now we don't know what that tie is.

One final tidbit, Sakura and Watanuki both have the same birthday, April 1st (his name is even written that way).

I think it's all lies when they say you can read one of these series and be fine, to get the whole picture reading both is rather necessary. -_-
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Post by: KratosAurion on October 27 2006, 01:19 pm

I think it's all lies when they say you can read one of these series and be fine, to get the whole picture reading both is rather necessary. -_-

I guess you're right, I'm completely lost about this Watanuki thing. Myabe i should rush and download the first chapters of xxxholix >.<
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on October 27 2006, 01:28 pm
for those  of you that need it:

xxxholic manga: http://groups.msn.com/eXeXeXHOLiCManga/messages.msnw

and just a reminder:
http://groups.msn.com/TsubasaReservoirChroniclesOnlineManga/
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Post by: Jeannette on October 27 2006, 01:56 pm
Chibi-Yuuto has clean raw scans out at The Room of Requirement. (http://fukanounashigoto.free.fr/ror/)

A couple more thoughts-

(Slight spoilers for Clover) - a few people on LJ have mentioned the parallels between Fai and Suu in Clover, how they both apparently were locked away because people feared their power; and, if you go with the theory that Fai says that he wanted someone to love him before he died, they share that in common too. Appropriate, then, that Fai so fell in love with Oruha's song.

Also, I think I'm the only one thinking about the parallels between Fai being held captive and Syaoran being held captive. xd
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Post by: Mari on October 27 2006, 03:12 pm
Hmm, well, this is what Mokona says:

"There are two types of memory. What the conscious mind remembers and what the body remembers. The conscious mind is very important, but the body is really important too. Sometimes when the mind forgets, the body remembers for it."

There is a diference between her body repeating the actions it once took and making memories of the world she's been in, but they clearly both fall under the 'body memories' concept Clamp introduces here, which is really what I meant. All in all, the scene was definitely foreshadowing for the explanation in this chapter. (Besides, even if she's asleep, she's still experiencing being in that world, isn't she?)

They way Mokona explained "body memories" in volume 9 made it sound like everyone has these two types of memories.....is it these memories combined with a different power in Sakura that makes her FWReed's target?
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on October 27 2006, 03:45 pm
They way Mokona explained "body memories" in volume 9 made it sound like everyone has these two types of memories.....is it these memories combined with a different power in Sakura that makes her FWReed's target?
that, and what i think is, the fact that sakura is going to all these worlds, makes it easier for FWR to go to them when he takes her power?
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Post by: Rekall on October 27 2006, 03:57 pm
Chibi-Yuuto has clean raw scans out at The Room of Requirement. (http://fukanounashigoto.free.fr/ror/)

A couple more thoughts-

(Slight spoilers for Clover) - a few people on LJ have mentioned the parallels between Fai and Suu in Clover, how they both apparently were locked away because people feared their power; and, if you go with the theory that Fai says that he wanted someone to love him before he died, they share that in common too. Appropriate, then, that Fai so fell in love with Oruha's song.

Also, I think I'm the only one thinking about the parallels between Fai being held captive and Syaoran being held captive. xd

Really, eh?  *goes to download Clover* I've been avoiding it since I know it's unfinished but unlike X and Legal Drug CLAMP never mentions about continuing it.
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Post by: Mari on October 27 2006, 04:42 pm
that, and what i think is, the fact that sakura is going to all these worlds, makes it easier for FWR to go to them when he takes her power?

Interesting....

Now if only we knew WHY he wanted this.
Hehe.  I wonder what he plans with this ability to easily acess the worlds--to bring every version of himself together? ^^;;
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Post by: ~Bloody_Rose~ on October 27 2006, 04:58 pm
Dx No chapter next week again? Mff. At least we have xxxHOLiC.
And, uh, page 13 that I quickly/messily coloured earlier out of boredom~
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/8905/faippage1cnt9.png
OMG.. now that's what i call angst.. T_T the color tone made it more angsty!! good work, Znuese-san *throws cookie*
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Post by: Sabbe-chan on October 27 2006, 08:00 pm
Dx No chapter next week again? Mff. At least we have xxxHOLiC.
And, uh, page 13 that I quickly/messily coloured earlier out of boredom~
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/8905/faippage1cnt9.png
Wow! Love the colors! Fai looks so beautiful and sad....
Good work!
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Post by: Tatasenko on October 27 2006, 08:07 pm
Znuese,once again you make me cry with your sensational colored scan,the flakes of snow are like tears flowing from the sky,the clouds seems to be burned up by fiery ashes,and the darkness that surrounds Fai are more evil than a monsters' nest,Fai's blue eye is the only light which transcends the obscurity  :keke:...
i know that it sounds weird but the colors that you used reminds me Christmas...and it brings more grief since Fai has certainly never enjoyed a warmhearted family  :(

but what i find really unbearable in this picture is that Fai can't even see through the window because he is too small  :sad5:!!!
the only things that are in the level of his eyes are darkness and walls,he hasn't the strenght to lift a little his bare foots to take a look outside...i'm really starting to think that i would have been more happy without knowing his past,it is so appalling  :dodge:
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Post by: ishiyaki on October 27 2006, 10:03 pm
Dx No chapter next week again? Mff. At least we have xxxHOLiC.
And, uh, page 13 that I quickly/messily coloured earlier out of boredom~
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/8905/faippage1cnt9.png
cookie for you!!!!! that was great!! omg, I'm becoming a Fai fangirl! I didn't thought it...

znuese, keep on!!
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Post by: INU on October 27 2006, 10:55 pm
Super Sailor Yue - THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR THAT XXXHOLIC MANGA FOREVER!!! *has a happy spazz-out*

And that colored scan nearly made me cry. I feel like ripping my own bloody heart out and giving it to Fai to let him know just how many people DO love him! (they all just live in a certain world called 'the heaven of fai fangirls') *bawls*

I certanly hope they get away from all of this tokyo angst soon and go and wash off and get some rest and just generally... yeah.... *prods fai with a stick* hey um, mr.vampire, any chance of you getting hungry anytime soon?

And yeah, I agree. Kuro seriously needs to like... steps out of the 'no one can take me down, i will stand even if i'm half-dead'  zone.
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Post by: SuSei_love on October 28 2006, 02:34 am
Huuraaa !!  :greengrin: Kuro need to have someone to love. And Fay want to beloved by someone. They are PERFECT MATCH  :greengrin:, don't you think so ?????

   Hay, about Yuuko, she explained things, but ... the reveled a bigger secret now  :dodge: : Fei Wong's wish !! I wonder about it all the time, but just now, when Yuuko mentioned it like that, this enigme becomes a very big deal  :dodge: !!

   Poor Watanuki, he is so kind --> LOVE HIM  :okay:
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Post by: selenityshiroi on October 28 2006, 03:33 am
Znuese, that was so beautiful that if I could give cookies, you would have been given several.

As I can't, you are going to have to settle for pure, unabashed worship *bow**bow*
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Post by: Crystall on October 28 2006, 03:59 am
omg!! this chapter is so cool!!  :okay: it was worth waiting  :keke: i really wonder what FWRs wish is  :confused: and i think that all those connections are amazing... imagine.... to plot something this big..... and to know and wait so many years for that thing to happen  :surprised: i really am looking forward to the mistery to be revealed  :hello2:
and fai... poor fai.... what could have happened in the past to lead to his imprisoning...?  :sad5:
damn... i really have to catch u ppl in reading xxxholic....  i want to find out what heppened there too....

 :cry: and again... no chap next week.... waiting is going to kill me....  :(

and of course... Znuese, ur pic is great!! i love how u colored it!!  :okay:
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Post by: envyofthestage on October 28 2006, 05:10 am
Yeah, bummer, CLAMP changed the schedule, it's on chibi's LJ now. :-( No chapter next week.
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Post by: Kjesta on October 28 2006, 05:49 am
Yeah, bummer, CLAMP changed the schedule, it's on chibi's LJ now. :-( No chapter next week.

What?! OH NOES :cry: I'm so gonna die!

But to make us all a little happy - in a German board, there's been an interesting theory. And it fully supports KF :hehe:

So, said person mentioned that Fai couldn't oder didn't want to die before he's been loved by someone. He also said he couldn't die in Outo - for the same reason, maybe? And suddenly, in X world, he was willing and/or able to die. Doesn't this indirectly mean that he's loved now? And who could love him but Kurogane? :wink: (I'm pretty sure it's not Syaoran oder Sakura :confused: )
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Post by: Emiko on October 28 2006, 06:35 am
No chapter next week?! Argh.

That sucks *so* much.
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Post by: Mari on October 28 2006, 07:26 am
Also, I think I'm the only one thinking about the parallels between Fai being held captive and Syaoran being held captive. xd

Rolling back to chapter 126--the fabric that Syaoran gave to cover Fay's eye, wasn't it the same that he had been wearing over HIS eye before getting the other half of his heart back....?
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Post by: ArikiaCrystal on October 28 2006, 07:29 am
O_O OMG no chapter next week?!?! Again?! *crie*

Znuese, i LOVE your colored scan!!!
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Post by: ArikiaCrystal on October 28 2006, 07:31 am
Yeah that was the same!
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on October 28 2006, 10:02 am
Rolling back to chapter 126--the fabric that Syaoran gave to cover Fay's eye, wasn't it the same that he had been wearing over HIS eye before getting the other half of his heart back....?
yes it was. it was sort of bringing into his respect to them all,
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Post by: Celesse on October 28 2006, 10:33 am
Scanslated - http://rapidshare.com/files/958377/trc-133.zip.html
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Post by: Mari on October 28 2006, 11:38 am
What?! OH NOES :cry: I'm so gonna die!

But to make us all a little happy - in a German board, there's been an interesting theory. And it fully supports KF :hehe:

So, said person mentioned that Fai couldn't oder didn't want to die before he's been loved by someone. He also said he couldn't die in Outo - for the same reason, maybe? And suddenly, in X world, he was willing and/or able to die. Doesn't this indirectly mean that he's loved now? And who could love him but Kurogane? :wink: (I'm pretty sure it's not Syaoran oder Sakura :confused: )

Nice thoughts :)
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Post by: mela on October 28 2006, 12:04 pm
Scanslated - http://rapidshare.com/files/958377/trc-133.zip.html

Thank you, Celesse! I am downloading now and will post the link to my page soon :)
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Post by: tsuki on October 28 2006, 12:49 pm
Celesse,thankz!! cookie for you!! ^o^
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Post by: Møon Li on October 28 2006, 03:04 pm
Thank you Celesse, as always :D sure a cookie...

 Was so interesting reading all the posts... too many things to think about everything, specially that Watanugi stuff... I can;t wait for the cahpt. 134 and no this week ooh my gosh...

 By the way, does someone know where to download scanlated Clover's manga?
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on October 28 2006, 04:54 pm
Thank you Celesse, as always :D sure a cookie...

 Was so interesting reading all the posts... too many things to think about everything, specially that Watanugi stuff... I can;t wait for the cahpt. 134 and no this week ooh my gosh...

 By the way, does someone know where to download scanlated Clover's manga?

LSD's site http://www.manga4otaku.com/forums/index.php?showforum=2 might if not, ask me forthe link to the Evil Empire. their sure to have it.
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Post by: Tatasenko on November 01 2006, 07:37 am
i can't believe it,we have waited 17 TOMES to know a bit about Fai's past and this chapter's discussion has been neglected since severals days,have you been so much traumatized   :haha:???

about the fact that Fai can't die,or i should rather say can't KILL HIMSELF,i was wondering how it could be possible  :surprised:...

there are only two theories to explain this peculiar particularity,either Fai was born like this and so it is due to his magical power (but in this case ALL the others magicians would be like him,and i don't think so because he seems different),or else someone has cast him a spell which has sealed him from the inside in order to nulliffy all his attempts to suicide himself and all the bad effects of disease  :okay:...

so it would mean that someone wanted to keep Fai alive and that's may be why he has been kept captive isolated from the outside world,so as to protect him from others people who wished to make him disappear  :sweatdrop:

okay i know,this is a very weird supposition,but at least it's bring back to life the topic  :wink:
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Post by: ishiyaki on November 01 2006, 08:23 am
i can't believe it,we have waited 17 TOMES to know a bit about Fai's past and this chapter's discussion has been neglected since severals days,have you been so much traumatized :haha:

about the fact that Fai can't die,or i should rather say can't KILL HIMSELF,i was wondering how it could be possible :surprised:...

there are only two theories to explain this peculiar particularity,either Fai was born like this and so it is due to his magical power (but in this case ALL the others magicians would be like him,and i don't think so because he seems different),or else someone has cast him a spell which has sealed him from the inside in order to nulliffy all his attempts to suicide himself and all the bad effects of disease :okay:...

so it would mean that someone wanted to keep Fai alive and that's may be why he has been kept captive isolated from the outside world,so as to protect him from others people who wished to make him disappear :sweatdrop:

okay i know,this is a very weird supposition,but at least it's bring back to life the topic :wink:
mm...could it be that Fai's life depends of Ashura's life??? I mean, I think Ashura is "the lord" of his soul..it sounds really weird.
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Post by: Tricky on November 01 2006, 09:13 am
I honestly think that he can't not die is a freak gasoline fight accident.
I got the impression that he wanted ot die, bu that there was nothing keeping him from not dying like immortality, a spell, a curse, whatever.
He just hadn't died yet, of starvation or hypothermea or whatever.
He said he had a reason to live before he died anyway, so, you know CLAMP and will power.
I don't neccessarily think his life(being alive) was that controlled when he was little as we see him there.
Thats just my guess though.
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 01 2006, 10:15 am
well the way fai says in the outo arc (dunno if this was anime only) fai said "i used to think it would be an adventure to die" perhaps the fact tht he CANT die makes him WANTY to die. :S
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Post by: Senefen on November 01 2006, 10:16 am
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I honestly think that he can't not die is a freak gasoline fight accident.
that would be awesome XD
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I got the impression that he wanted ot die, bu that there was nothing keeping him from not dying like immortality, a spell, a curse, whatever.[/
From what I gathered he swore, for whatever reason, to not let himself die ie. hes gonna eat, not jump off tall buidlings etc. However if someone kills him thats perfectly fine becuase he has no control over that.
So he doesnt particualy want to live
But he swore he wouldnt kill himself - or let himself die
But if someone kills him thats fine, maybe even what he wants
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Post by: Tatasenko on November 01 2006, 10:57 am
However if someone kills him thats perfectly fine becuase he has no control over that.
So he doesnt particualy want to live
But he swore he wouldnt kill himself - or let himself die
But if someone kills him thats fine, maybe even what he wants

to sum up he may just be unable to face life as much as he is unable to face death,so he lets himself rub along and wishes that he will die without knowing it,because he is too afraid to kill himself but too coward to live...or maybe the inverse  :okay:

but i don't think that someone who keeps repeating indifinitely in his jail that he wants to die without doing it has really total control over his life,i'm pretty sure that someone has the power to decide of Fai's fate  :shifty:
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Post by: KratosAurion on November 01 2006, 11:09 am
to sum up he may just be unable to face life as much as he is unable to face death,so he lets himself rub along and wishes that he will die without knowing it,because he is too afraid to kill himself but too coward to live...or maybe the inverse  :okay:

but i don't think that someone who keeps repeating indifinitely in his jail that he wants to die without doing it has really total control over his life,i'm pretty sure that someone has the power to decide of Fai's fate  :shifty:

Agreed. We still don't know if Fai has a spell or something that keeps him from commiting suicide, but it also be that he is too coward to take his own life. Or maybe it's about willpower like Tricky said. In any case, if he really wanted to die and if he had complete control over his life he would have killed himself long ago

I'm still fond of the theory that something keeps him from dying. It's also the worst thing that could happen to him, and since we've seen people ripping off arms, eating eyes and all sort of terrible things, then why not? ^^
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Post by: Tricky on November 02 2006, 05:37 am
Kind of off the current topic, but the next chapter will be up this week, right?
I mean, its wednesday and we don't have scans/translations or even spoilers.
Does htat mean it isn't till next week?
>.<
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Post by: Airashii on November 02 2006, 05:39 am
I think it is up for next week.
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Post by: Emiko on November 02 2006, 05:48 am
Yeah. I'm afraid it's next week. Clamp changed the date. V_V
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Post by: Tatasenko on November 02 2006, 05:56 am
Kind of off the current topic, but the next chapter will be up this week, right?
I mean, its wednesday and we don't have scans/translations or even spoilers.
Does htat mean it isn't till next week?
>.<

sorry to bring you bad new Tricky,but the schedule of chapter 134 has been changed few days ago,there is no chapter today,we will have to wait until 8th november to know a little more about Fai  :sweatdrop:...
if there has been a new chapter of Tsubasa this wednesday be sure that the topic would have been much more liven up with fans everywhere begging for the scans  :okay:

but i think that chapter 133 has given us enough revelations to make us wait one more week,CLAMP were certainly too busy celebrating haloween  :haha:
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Post by: Meowzy on November 02 2006, 07:10 am
Evil CLAMP...
Yet... we love them.
*worships all the same*
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Post by: Sabbe-chan on November 02 2006, 07:38 am
*sigh* Has to wait one more week......
but I'll manage. :sweatdrop:
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Post by: Tricky on November 02 2006, 08:59 am
Thank you all for letting me know! Will wait with great anticipation and contemplation..! ^.~
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Post by: Blue on November 02 2006, 09:33 am
;_______; Can't believe we have to wait another week, AGAIN. And Naruto. ='[
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Post by: Emiko on November 02 2006, 01:35 pm
Hmm, I have a question. In Pikari's translations, Fai's line in the prison when he's kind of sliding down is just "But, before I do, someone..Someone..."

But... in the scanlation on the MSN group... Fai actually *says* "I want to be loved by someone before I die"

So, um... which is it? Is Fai's wish *actually* to be loved by someone before he dies or was this a presumption someone made?
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Post by: Jeannette on November 02 2006, 01:45 pm
Hmm, I have a question. In Pikari's translations, Fai's line in the prison when he's kind of sliding down is just "But, before I do, someone..Someone..."

But... in the scanlation on the MSN group... Fai actually *says* "I want to be loved by someone before I die"

So, um... which is it? Is Fai's wish *actually* to be loved by someone before he dies or was this a presumption someone made?

That's just an assumption. Jamie's translations and Pikari's translations both just have Fai say, 'But before I die... someone.... I want someone to...' In the first translation available, I think, the translator stuck in a note that she couldn't think of any way to finish the sentence except 'to love me.' But that's not what Fai says.
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Post by: mela on November 02 2006, 01:54 pm
Hmm, I have a question. In Pikari's translations, Fai's line in the prison when he's kind of sliding down is just "But, before I do, someone..Someone..."

But... in the scanlation on the MSN group... Fai actually *says* "I want to be loved by someone before I die"

So, um... which is it? Is Fai's wish *actually* to be loved by someone before he dies or was this a presumption someone made?

I don't think he actually said the "to be loved by someone" part.

Here's another translation from TC.net:

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Fai: I want to die.
Fai: I want to die.
Fai: I want to die.
Fai: I want to die.
Fai: I want to die.

Fai: But, before that,
Fai: someone, (T/N: Dangling object, oh joy. Some ideas for what he could be going to say: wanting to meet someone, wanting to talk to someone, wanting to connect to someone, wanting to love someone.)

Fai: someone

The translator here indicates that the sentence is just cut off and that practically anything could be put there. Nothing is really implied in the words alone.

I think the reason that it was included was because they used Inarikami's translations. This is what she said:
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Little!Fai: I want to die.
I want to die. I want to die. I want to die. I want to die.

But before that...

By someone... (1)

and then at the very end she threw in, in the NOTES section:

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(1) Okay, the only way I coul finish this sentence is: ".... I want to be loved." ♥

That is where I think the problem started, because people must have misread it and thought that it was what Fai actually said, and then whoever the scanlator was for the MSN group added it in, and then people were misled completely.

So he didn't say that. He just said "someone..." and then it cuts away. We don't know what he says. It could be that, but it isn't what was stated.
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 02 2006, 03:24 pm
if i get the chance, ill fix the chapter translation on the msn group. whjoever scanslated it, they made ALOT of mistakes...from FWR's middle name to calling watanuiki  "this kid" rather then wat yuuko WOULD have called him: "this child" yuuko calling someone a "kid"...thats just too slangy for soemone of her stature XD thats Kuroigane's line!
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Post by: Spoonful on November 02 2006, 04:02 pm
What'd they put as FWR's middle name?

Just for the record, what Fay says in those two pages is, "Shinitai (x6)... Demo, sono mae ni, dare ka ni...dare ka ni." "I want to die, but before that, someone..." Or something close to that. So yeah, it's simply a dangling object. The particle doesn't lead anywhere yet. No mention at all of wanting to be loved.
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Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 02 2006, 04:16 pm
What'd they put as FWR's middle name?

Just for the record, what Fay says in those two pages is, "Shinitai (x6)... Demo, sono mae ni, dare ka ni...dare ka ni." "I want to die, but before that, someone..." Or something close to that. So yeah, it's simply a dangling object. The particle doesn't lead anywhere yet. No mention at all of wanting to be loved.

its simply just misspelled as "Wan" instead of "Wang"
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Post by: Tatasenko on November 02 2006, 08:50 pm
there are many others ways to finsh Fai's sentence,maybe it has nothing do with love!
when he said those words Fai was completely broken,helpless,and in total disbelief,so i think that the feeling which must have been overwhelming him at this moment was not love but rather anger  :sweatdrop:...

for instance,he could have wanted to say :
...but before i want someone to save me
...but before i want someone to talk to me
...but before i want someone to share my pain

but on the other hand it could also be:
...but before i want to see once again THIS someone
...but before i want to kill THS someone
...but before i want to take my revenge on THIS someone

i mean that we don't know if by begging for "someone",Fai wasn't referring to nobody in particular or if on the contrary he was talking about a significant person  :okay:
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Post by: Spoonful on November 03 2006, 12:50 am
its simply just misspelled as "Wan" instead of "Wang"
That's not technically incorrect. The furigana next to his name says "fei wan riido". Spelling it "Feiwan" is like spelling Syaoran (Xiao Lang)'s name "Shaoran".

Personally, I spell it Wong, because that's just another reading of his name, and that one helps me with the pronunciation better.
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: ishiyaki on November 04 2006, 08:59 am
does anybody know about 134's spoiler????
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Tatasenko on November 04 2006, 09:24 am
not for now dear team mate,be a little more patient,CLAMP are at the moment sick because they have got an indigestion after having eaten too much pumpkins for Haloween (at least peharps it will help them to be a little more funny for the next chapters  :haha:)

usually it is around sunday that we have got some spoilers for the upcoming chapter...but i hope that this time it won't be a bad new like the previous week when we have learnt that chapter 134 was delayed of one week  :sweatdrop:
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: falka on November 04 2006, 09:02 pm
I found spoilers(?) for chaptire 134:
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Chapitre.134 唯一の存在

侑子「無くしたものも確かにあるけれど」「生まれたものもまた多い」
   「だからこれからの事も貴方達が選べばいいわ」
さくら「‥‥旅を」「続けます」「小狼君の心を取り戻す為に」
ファイ「オレ一緒でもいいかなぁ」「『我が唯一の姫君(ヴィ・ラ・プリンシア)』」
黒鋼「日本国へは帰る」「それは変わらねぇ」「けれど変わったものがある」
   「約束はひとつじゃなくてもいいだろ」「それに」「探してた奴にも会えるしな」
真小狼「取り戻したいものがある」「もう戻らないかもしれない」「けれど」
     「守れるなら」「守りたい」「一緒に行きたい」
侑子「分かったわ」「では行きなさい」「己の望みのままに」

アトヒキ:消せない罪も過去も 全てを背負い 彼らはまた歩き出す

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スタジオでハロウィンパーティを
やりました。ハロウィンとは名
ばかりで、牡蠣大会でした(笑)。

now I hope someone will translate it, because yeah, the online translator is super lame
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: selenityshiroi on November 04 2006, 09:22 pm
Okay, completely crappy attempt at making sense of this using an online translator (bad me, bad).

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EDIT Yuuko is asking them what they are going to choose to do or telling them they have to make a choice.

Sakura wants to get C!Syaoran back.  (True heart, blah blah).

Fay is saying something about Sakura (getting everyone back together?).

Kurogane is saying he still wants to go back to Japan but he has to search for his mothers murderer first. 

Syaoran wants to 'go back'.

Yuuko is then saying something about wishing to avenge?  Correct? something about the past.

I told you it was a crappy attempt!
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: su_chan on November 04 2006, 09:35 pm
My try with the translation of the spoilers:

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The unique existence

Yuuko: However not having (Fei's wish) will surely bring numerous 
So after this you (all )if you chose rigth...
Sakura: the travel, to continue, to get back Syaorans's heart/soul
Fay: you would together with me  , "my only princes" (ein?) (we ra perinshia)

Ok, I'm lost with that katakana Fay said, well not completely, but how it is always based on english pronunciation I get stuck, last word seems 'princes' to me, but the other two are nonsense (besides I don't remeber well if ヴ was wu or not XDD)

Kurogane: To go back to Nihon, my wish has not changed, however something is diferent, The promise I made (avenge his  mother?) will fulfill (becasue) besides searching I can meet that guy
Syaoran: I want to get back, but perhaps I can't return (?) however if I protect, I want to protect, can go together
Yuuko: ok, your wishes are set

tag: they will walk to show the  crimes that can not be erased
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Mari on November 04 2006, 09:37 pm
Okay, completely crappy attempt at making sense of this using an online translator (bad me, bad).

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I think Yuuko's asking them to choose whether to travel with R!Syaoran or to try and get back C!Syaoran. Get back his heart for the sake of Sakura?

Fay is saying something about Sakura.

Kurogane is saying he still wants to go back to Japan but he has to search for his mothers murderer first. And get back Syaoran.

Yuuko is then saying something about wishing to avenge? Correct? something about the past.

I told you it was a crappy attempt!

It may be crappy, but it just got me really wanting TRC.  :keke:

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If that line about Kurogane wanting Syaoran back is true than--yay for fatherly love~! xD

Gah.  This is going to be a repeat of things from two weeks ago, ne?  All waiting for the scans...only to have them come out on time....^^;;
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Tatasenko on November 04 2006, 09:45 pm
according to the spoilers Kurogane seems to be concerned by Shaolan while Fai looks like he has only eye(s) for Sakura  :surprised:...
i think that from then on the couples will be in some way inversed,Kurogane and Shaolan will certainly work together,and Fai and Sakura will definitely share some secrets  :sweatdrop:...
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: su_chan on November 04 2006, 09:51 pm
For Tatasenko:

I think that depends on if 'that guy' is Syaoran or Fei Wong, and I think he is more interestd in the promise he did to kill whoever killed his mother that getting back Syaoran now, that is Sakura's wish. Besides Kurogane has never called Syaoran 'that guy' (yatsu) he calls him 'boy' (kozou) !!!! And calls Fay aitsu, soitsu, koitsu and mokona shiro manjuu.... this guy has a bad habbit of not calling people by their given names  :rotfl:
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: selenityshiroi on November 04 2006, 10:12 pm
Su-chan's makes more sense!  After looking at the kanji myself, instead of with a translator, I started to get a similar translation to her!  I've edited one part of mine, but I think hers is gonna be pretty much what I make it so I won't bother looking up the rest!

And yeah, I kind of combined the two lines of Kurogane and Syaoran (doh!).  So Kurogane is wanting to do his avenging thing and Syaoran is wanting to do the 'returning'.  *smacks self on forehead for confusing people*
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: falka on November 04 2006, 11:19 pm
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according to the people on the Japanese BBS Fay used a French expression (vie la princier?!?) when adressing Sakura.
I hope that something more will happen in the chapter because personally I'm getting tired of the gang sitting angsting and talking no matter how informative it is. let's move on to the next world, shall we
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: mela on November 04 2006, 11:24 pm
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according to the people on the Japanese BBS Fay used a French expression (vie la princier?!?) when adressing Sakura.
I hope that something more will happen in the chapter because personally I'm getting tired of the gang sitting angsting and talking no matter how informative it is. let's move on to the next world, shall we

What the heck? French?

Anyway, I agree :XD:
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: su_chan on November 04 2006, 11:30 pm
french? like the 'chapitre' they use for chapters?.............. I always imagined he was a bit more 'nordic' :D
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Tatasenko on November 04 2006, 11:38 pm
according to the people on the Japanese BBS Fay used a French expression (vie la princier?!?) when adressing Sakura.

i can't believe it,Fai uses a french expression?
another proof that CLAMP has more definitely given french origins to Fai  :okay:!
i mean that since the beginning many hints about Fai are based on french attitude,yesterday i was still talking about it on the topic concerning the last omake!
moreover in the picture of the character guide book where he is with Ashura,he is wearing a cape which makes him looks like a prince!
i will gather all the elements showing that he could be french and i will post them on the topic which is all about Fai  :keke:

...oups,sorry to have bothered you with my overflowing but you understand why i'm so interested about his hypothetical link with France  :wink:

hum,back to the topic,i think that this is going to be again a chapter of discussions,so we will certainly have to languish a little more  :sweatdrop:
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Roxx on November 05 2006, 12:17 am
Egh. Are they just going to continue sitting and being all emo-ish? Can I just smack the group with a baseball bat to the next world?

As for the translation, I understand it, but with Fay's first bit... It says, "Ore ittsyo demo iikana..." In direct translation it would mean, "I think I would like to be together..." But I think someone could probably translate that better than me. After that he says, "Our only princess." And then something funky in french.

As for Kurogane he says, "Going back to Japan, that hasn't changed. However, there is something that has changed. There doesn't have to be just one promise. And, we can meet the guy we are looking for."

I would try and translate the rest, but I'm truly lazy when it comes to those type of things. I'm pretty sure I got the translation right, but feel free to correct me.
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: ArikiaCrystal on November 05 2006, 12:21 am
Yeaaah!!! Fai is from Quebec like me!! ahahah!
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Touei on November 05 2006, 12:28 am
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Doesn't he say "Oui, la Princess", or something like that? The katakana is .. uhm.. "ui ra purinshia" right? I've seen purinshia translated as Princess before.
So.. he's saying something like "I want to stay travelling with you , but only for the princess" but then afterwards saying "Yes.. the princess." D: Bah. I dont know *scurries back to doing French coursework*.

New world soon plz CLAMP ;-;
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Roxx on November 05 2006, 12:38 am
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So.. he's saying something like "I want to stay travelling with you , but only for the princess" but then afterwards saying "Yes.. the princess." D: Bah. I dont know *scurries back to doing French coursework*.

Hmm. No. I think Fay is referring to the group & Sakura. But yeah, can't be sure until we have the scans.
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: INU on November 05 2006, 01:03 am
>.< urgh! so confusing!

we need it in more context. I take german, not french, so I am no help in the translations.
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Emiko on November 05 2006, 01:48 am
Well, if Fai *did* say that he'd only continue travelling for the princess, that would make sense, I think.

Sounds kinda like Fai's just trying to push Kurogane away more by insisting that he's only sticking around for Sakura's sake.

LOL, and as much as I love French, why the eff does Fai speak in French? Isn't Mokona translating anyway? So weird!
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Itzeen on November 05 2006, 02:43 am
OK this is realy confusing............ Sakura wants to still travel, now for CXiao-Lang's heart, Fai is staying only for Sakura's sake??? and Kurogane he still want to travel looking for CXiao-Lang and his mother murderer???? And what's up with RXiao-Lang??? He wants to return??? I don't get it really, so, only the three of them are going to still in the travel????

Is so confusing....only 4 days for the chapter........ jeez........... we need some explanations........ and answers
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Elenath on November 05 2006, 03:11 am
French? Hmm well there's many people who express themselves with french words and aren't from France.
It's like saying "I had a deja vu" that does not mean I'm french, it's just words taken to express something.
Also, CLAMP created a magical and unknown world for every single character except Kurogane and Tomoyo, who are from Japan- other from that, we cannot determine where the other characters are from.
It's like Saying Sakura and Syaoran are from Egypt or Kasakstan or somewhere in the middle east. One cannot really tell.

[sarcasm] Other from that, I do believe Fye is DEFINATELY Mexican. I mean! Look at him! :D [/sarcasm]
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: ArikiaCrystal on November 05 2006, 03:14 am
Kurogane is looking for Csyaoran because he wants to get the eye of Fai!! XD

*Kuro in is head: I will find the eye for you no matter what!* lol
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Emiko on November 05 2006, 03:57 am
Yeah, but if Fai spoke French, wouldn't Mokona just translate it anyway? I dunno, having him speak French seems weird to me. Celes isn't supposed to reflect a nationality, is it?
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Paccy on November 05 2006, 04:52 am
French? I always wished for Fai to be from Norway like me...D:
Wouldn't it be weird for Fai to even KNOW French? Unless that is the language they speak in Celes...
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Kazuki on November 05 2006, 04:55 am
I don't think they speak french in Celes... Remeber back in volume 2, when they can't understand each other? A girl that knows the language told me that the symbols that appear in Fay's ballon are russian...
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Ando on November 05 2006, 05:08 am
I don't think they speak french in Celes... Remeber back in volume 2, when they can't understand each other? A girl that knows the language told me that the symbols that appear in Fay's ballon are russian...

But it's not only Russian, is it? From what I remember, it was Russian letters mixed with pure gibberish. I don't think Fai is Russian, French, Norwegian, or any other nationality exisiting in our world. He's simply Celessian.

But if those katakana really are supposed to be French, then that's really weird. As said, wouldn't Mokona translate?
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Emiko on November 05 2006, 05:10 am
I just giggle thinking of it. Because it's just so... unnecessary for Fai to suddenly sprout off a French phrase.

And I agree, Fai doesn't have a nationality other than Celesian. Celes isn't anywhere on Earth.
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Kazuki on November 05 2006, 05:12 am
I just giggle thinking of it. Because it's just so... unnecessary for Fai to suddenly sprout off a French phrase.

LOL just what I though!
Maybe Clamp wanted to give him a "Don Juan" thing... omg, is Fay hitting on Sakura? =x don't kill me, it was just a joke
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: TheaAL on November 05 2006, 05:39 am
Oh, French?
YARK! X_X
This language really doesn't suit him!  (Nothing agains French people! PLEASE don't kill me! I wanna know what happen next to Fai and the others! XD)
At firs I thought Celes could be like England! Because of this terrible head he weared in ...uhm....I forgot the name... the place where Kuro first saw C!Shaolan?

And what aout their new wishes? Is Fai going to fall in love with Sakura??? X_x
But they don't have to pay something for their new wishes, do they?

CLAMP really confuses me! ;_;
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: TheaAL on November 05 2006, 05:41 am
PS:
Kazuki!
Your colored pic looks soooooo beatyfull and cooooooooool!
Amazing! XDDD *wanna take it*
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Kazuki on November 05 2006, 05:45 am
PS:
Kazuki!
Your colored pic looks soooooo beatyfull and cooooooooool!
Amazing! XDDD *wanna take it*

I didn't colored it... all credits go to Znuese who did an amazing job coloring it... and I'm so sorry I made a signature with it and didn't even ask if I could i_i
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: karro on November 05 2006, 05:45 am
There are other Norwegians here!! Aww, I too wanted Fai to be Norwegian XD But since Celes is not in Norway I guess that would be impossible*sigh*And I think the things they were saying back in volume 2 were totally random, since Fai was talking Russian mixed with nonsense and Kuro-pipin was talking Japanese mixed with nonsense, so-.-"

No, but really, why would Fai talk French XD Mokona is there for a reason, could it be a mistake in the translation?
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: TheaAL on November 05 2006, 06:01 am
Oh!
But it's amazing anyway! XD

You're so luck, that Fai even TALKS something! In the German edition it's JUST nonesense!
No japanese, no Russian ... nothing! T_T
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Mari on November 05 2006, 06:17 am
Celes isn't anywhere in this world anyways  :keke:

I'm personally leaning more towards it's just a turn of phrase.  Though random French is always fun....and random. ><

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"Real!Shaoran has something he wants to get back, and even if he can't get it back, he still wants to protect it..."

I wonder what it is that R!Syaoran wants returned...?
Something to do with Watanuki....?
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: falka on November 05 2006, 06:31 am
I don't know why people are jumping into conclusions about Fay and Sakura after one chapter of hand-holding and this 'my only princess' line.

To me the relationship between Fay and Sakura is now (motherly feelings aside) very much like Kurogane's and Tomoyo's. Fay declares that he will continue the journey only for Sakura's sake, he calls her 'his only princess' and thus vows to be her protector. He's somehow like a knight offering his loyal support to the queen. And with her Syaoran gone, I think that she really needs this kind of reassurance from her friends.
Appart from that, come on! CLAMP will never break their canon couples

btw. after reading the spoilers we discuss Fay's random usage of a French phrase. it's really sad, because it means that nothing really happens in the newest chapter... CLAMP, get it over with!!!
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Aethelthryth on November 05 2006, 06:36 am
I've also been wanting the group to move on, coz the mood in this world has been so dark, so angsty! I mean, it would be better if we can read all the way, but waiting a week for 1 chapter (and sometimes 2 weeks!) makes me feel that I'm in an extended angsty mood! The tension that we have to suffer while waiting for the chapter to come out is sometimes unbearable.

But I'm just wondering whether CLAMP will tell us what's gonna happen with Kamui, Subaru, Fuuma & Seishiro.

I also like to think that R!Syao wants to "go back" to meet his Sakura! I always get this feeling that R!Syao is reminded of his Sakura whenever he sees our Sakura...

And about Fai speaking in French...I think it's just an expression...I mean, although we use English in this forum, sometimes we insert some Japanese words (like "Sugoi!" or "kawaii" or something) just for fun. I can't be sure though, because he's been in a sad mood lately, but for now, I'll just assume that he uses that expression to lighten up the mood (a sign that he's going back to his old self?) We definitely need to see the scans to be able to interpret what he really means.
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Mari on November 05 2006, 06:53 am
I know it seems like they've been sitting around for awhile, but that's more the feeling we get because we wait chapter by chapter.  I think people who read the series as a whole in the future would think it lacking in something if they were to suddeny jump to another world right now.

...is it Wednesday yet....? ^^;;
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Sandra-chan on November 05 2006, 06:58 am
Yeah, but still I hope that they won't stay in tokyo for too long. It's time for them to find C!Syaoran.
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Tatasenko on November 05 2006, 07:13 am
WAOUH,it's amazing to read two pages about France  :haha:!
of course one single sentence doesn't prove that Fai is french,but at least it gives a clue about CLAMP's acknowledgement of sources for this character  :wink:!
for instance his way of life is very similar to french people,he is often speaking like a romantic poet,he is a love dreamer,he is a fine cook who loves sugar flavours,and he is addicted to milk and alcohol which are french reputation...but it is just my opinion since i am in the best position to talk about it  :keke:

anyway,it's far from being important for the progress of the scenario (we can just assume that Clone Shaolan definitely doesn't like french  :sweatdrop:)
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Giraffe-o-Life on November 05 2006, 07:25 am
To me the relationship between Fay and Sakura is now (motherly feelings aside) very much like Kurogane's and Tomoyo's. Fay declares that he will continue the journey only for Sakura's sake, he calls her 'his only princess' and thus vows to be her protector. He's somehow like a knight offering his loyal support to the queen. And with her Syaoran gone, I think that she really needs this kind of reassurance from her friends.
Appart from that, come on! CLAMP will never break their canon couples

Exactly. I've been torn between cooing over how sweet they've been to eachother, and being horiffied with the sudden burst of FayxSakura shipping. I thought it was supposed to be a joke. D:

I'm reserving my judgement on the alleged French, but I've never thought Fay was especially French-looking. I'm glad to hear Kurogane is still planning to get back to Nihon, that means Nihon!Tomoyo still has a chance at meeting Sakura :D Plus Fay has somewhere to live happily ever after with his big strong ninja.
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Itzeen on November 05 2006, 08:20 am
Ok is nice that Fai knows some words in french, but, the one who put the spoiler of chapter 134 have images or something like that it would be nice and ilustrative for all the doubts.
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Tatasenko on November 05 2006, 08:27 am
I'm reserving my judgement on the alleged French, but I've never thought Fay was especially French-looking.

don't forget that Fai is after all a manga character,his physical features has nothing to do with his origins,it is only his way of life and personnality that matter  :okay:!
for instance in CCS Sakura has got brown hair and green eyes which is not very common for japanese,but her school life is typically nippon.but Shaolan has got more physical similarities with japan people while he is in fact chinese and his difference is displayed by the fact that he is very awkward about japan cultures,so it means that CLAMP don't consider the appearance but rather the behaviour  :keke:!

so even if Fai doesn't look like french he really acts like a french (and personnally i can tell that blond hair and blue eyes are very standard in my country  :surprised:)

... i don't know why but i feel like if some members are going to strike me down because they want Fai to share a bond with their country  :sweatdrop:
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: mela on November 05 2006, 08:44 am
Translation, thanks to Neither-san at TC.net

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Chapitre 134
The only existence

Yuuko: Of course there are things that disappeared too,
but the things that were born are also numerous.
That's why it should be all right for you to make choices about what's to come.

Sakura: ... The journey
we'll continue it
for the sake of returning Shaoran-kun's heart.

Fai: It'll be okay even if I go too.
My only princess (vi la princia). [T/N: I -think- the half-width katakana here is Fai saying it in his native language. A few entries down in the BBS/blog thing this came from, someone put up ways to say "princess" in several languages, so they might've been trying to find out what Fai's language sounds like.]

Kurogane: To return to Nihon country.
That won't change.
But there are things that have changed.
It should be okay even if there's more than one promise.
Besides,
I also want to be able to meet that bastard I've been searching for. [T/N: He used "yatsu" -- not exactly "bastard", but it'll have to do.]

Shaoran: There's something I want to return.
Maybe it won't return anymore,
but
if I'm able to honor it,
then I want to. [T/N: I thought that the "honoring a promise" idea would be more appropriate here, but he might be talking about protecting someone or something. I don't really know what these lines are about.]
I want to go with you.

Yuuko: Understood.
Then, go
as your desire likes. [T/N: It could be "to where your desire likes" too. It's just my bias in favor of "へ" that made me pick "as" rather than "to". ^.^]

Teaser [T/N: I think.]: Sins that cannot be erased, the past, all is carried on their shoulders. They start to walk once again.
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Ando on November 05 2006, 08:49 am
So this means... no more Tokyo? *does a little dance*
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: mela on November 05 2006, 08:51 am
So this means... no more Tokyo? *does a litle dance*

I don't know, hopefully. When I read the "starting to walk" part I was just like "YES, yesss, walk. AWAY from Tokyo, preferably."
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Toge-chan on November 05 2006, 09:07 am
[sarcasm] Other from that, I do believe Fye is DEFINATELY Mexican. I mean! Look at him! :D [/sarcasm]

I know several blonde, blue-eyed Mexicans... You know, you can't just judge a book by it's cover. :D

However, at least in my Mexican copy of the manga, in the first volume, FWR says at the very last, "The power to [blahblah] time and space will soon be mine." so, that proves how careless we all were. XD Also, about Fai. Now that I remember, his Kudan was a bird.... and at Outo he said "I want someone to take me away." Which were very small hints of his past... [/random]
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Capella on November 05 2006, 09:19 am
Can we really leave Tokyo soon? Really really?

I'm firmly in the "Fai is Celesian" camp. I don't think he's French or Russian or Scandinavian or English or what have you. Celes isn't really any of the those places.  And really, "Chii" and "Ashura" don't sound like names that belong in any of those countries.
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Tatasenko on November 05 2006, 09:51 am
i don't want to spoil the mood but i think that after chapter 134 there will be at least one more chapter before they leave Tokyo ...
because with all this events we have totally forgotten about Fuuma,Kamui,and Subaru,who are certainly hibernating after all these weeks of waiting  :haha:

i don't think that after all they have crossed Shaolan Sakura Kurogane and Fai are just going to leave without saying a single word to the Tokyo team who has helped them and even saved Fai!
Moreover this one hasn't still got the opportunity to thank Satsuki and his new dear vampires' comrades for his recovery...even if it wasn't what he wished  :sweatdrop:
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Giraffe-o-Life on November 05 2006, 10:08 am
... i don't know why but i feel like if some members are going to strike me down because they want Fai to share a bond with their country  :sweatdrop:

I'm sorry if that was the impression I made! I definitely didn't mean to sound like I was striking you down, it's more that I agree with Capella's "Fay is Celesian" thing, and I don't think he's supposed to represent any country in particular. lol, he's definitely not from MY country, unless he's secretly Canadian.
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Emiko on November 05 2006, 10:26 am
OMG.

CELES IS COLD.

CANADA IS COLD [IN WINTER].

CELES = CANADA?!


Ehehehe. No, no, I'm Canadian too and I gotta agree with Celes having no nationality that we're aware of. Any similarities that he might have to certain cultural archetypes is probably because his world and personality were deliberately made to contrast Kurogane's, which is obviously completely Japanese.

STILL think that Fai speaking French is just whack.
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Itzeen on November 05 2006, 10:39 am
Ok now I'm getting all. Well first I think Fai is not goin to be in love with Sakura, only is going to protect her for her sake, and RXiao-Lang wants to "return" something.... thats means (I guess) he wants to return some part of his heart to CXiao-Lang.

jijijijijijij I'm so exaited (muy emocionada de hecho) maybe at last is going to be CXiao-Lang with Sakura.
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 05 2006, 02:35 pm
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wouldn't Mokona translate?

perhaps its a glitch in mokona, or perhaps fai used soem of his own enrgy to skip it? its sorta like satying "de ja vu" [cant make those funk accents] in front of mokona. 95% peopleknow what "de ja vu" means, but if mokona translates it...itd be more confusing, like doesnt that frase mean once again, or something like that?, which would make it less understandable./q

also, as intersting as this chaoter sounds, it also sounds like it will be a boring-ishj chapter (compared to the wirlwind we've just gone thru)...
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Elenath on November 05 2006, 04:32 pm
I know several blonde, blue-eyed Mexicans... You know, you can't just judge a book by it's cover. :D

LOL I know, I know. I'm blue eyed and sandy blonde myself xD and I'm mexican. I'm an oddity ^^;

Yeah, Fye is from Celess, Period. Let us discuss the next chapter probable outcomes!
I am really sick of Tokyo.. the gang better move out! Now, Walk it out! *gets shot*
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Smile_For_Me on November 05 2006, 05:44 pm
Here's a fun game, can you find Fai's language?

http://www.omniglot.com/writing/alphabets.htm

http://www.subliminaldragon.com/Luminaries/Alphabets_used_in_Magick.htm

Kurogane's is that of Japanese and Chinese mix,

Character Map on Windows XP will help you find some his language, to bad I can't understand it.....
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Snow-chan on November 05 2006, 06:45 pm
I finally (laziness) went to check the second volume and the symbols of Fai's language - it IS Russian Cyrillic (that does not mean a thing, there is only one vowel used three times) mixed with universal symbols of #@!$and so on. I've learnt Russian for 9 years at school and even if I have forgotten a lot due to lack of use, I can tell the only symbols of a definite language Fai speaks are the Cyrillic ones.
"My only princess" would be in Russian something like "maja odna printsessa" or "odna printsessa maja" if written with latin letters.
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Tatasenko on November 05 2006, 10:14 pm
"My only princess" would be in Russian something like "maja odna printsessa" or "odna printsessa maja" if written with latin letters.

French people have got a very fine education, so that's why Fai is able to speak differents languages from all over the world...(what a addled theory,i' m saying nonsenses just to prove that i'm right  :haha:)
anyway i have changed my personnal text above my avatar,now i'm a true supporter of Fai being French...and i sure i'm the only one to believe that but it doesn't matter,i won't give up  :wink:!

so back to the topic,it seems that new kind of relationships arestarting to deploy between Kurogane,Fai,sakura,and Shaolan ... :
at the beginning there were mostly the couples Kurogane/Fai and Shaolan/Sakura,but since the past events this balance has been turned upside down  :surprised::

Kurogane and Shaolan are now two loners,because Fai has rejected Kurogane and Sakura only thinks about her missing Clone Shaolan.Kurogane will certainly keep his distance for while,not knowing how to deal with his feelings,and in order to forget his pain he seems to have decided to only concentrate his mind on the true reason why he is here,which is his wish to kill Fei Wong Reed and return to Nihon  :(.
About the real Shaolan he hasunderstood that he will never replace Clone Shaolan in sakura's heart,so as Kurogane he has made vacuous around him and is trying to only focalise his attention only on his future  :sad5:.

Fai and sakura are the two who has been betrayed since Kurogane has forced Fai to live and that Clone Shaolan has left Sakura behind,and they seem to be the two only one to be able to understand each other and so to comfort each other  :sweatdrop:.

so i think that for a while Kurogane and Real Shaolan are going to be separated mentally from Fai and Sakura  :okay:
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on November 05 2006, 10:19 pm
^ i just hope that doesnt spawn more yaoi kuro-syao fics >_<
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Ando on November 05 2006, 11:17 pm
Off-topic, but thanks a whole bunch for those links, Smile_For_Me! *linguist nerd*
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: mela on November 05 2006, 11:31 pm
Sweet, I've always wanted to visit France's floating castles and the vast French tundra.

All sarcasm aside. I really don't think he is French. Or anything on this Earth. He is from Celes.
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: INU on November 06 2006, 01:19 am
I agree with the fact that he's simply from Celes.

^_______^'' I'm nativly russian, and I can speak it fluently, and from the time when we did get some random characters of his language, I can tell you that while they do match the Russian ones, the words he said made no sence in russian. (I know it cuz I remember being confused at the time as well)

So maybe he's some odd mix. I personally like the idea of him simply being the complete yin to kurogane's yang. There's nothing much more to it. And besides, wizards are supposed to be well educated, correct? Everyone knows how fun it it to stick different-language phrases into english for no reason whatsoever.

Mommy and daughter are just having a heart-to-heart moment. Sakura's incredible ability to heal people's hearts is needed for Fai right now. He's confused, because he has jsut been jerked away from his original plans of dying. So maybe he's scared because he's rejecting the growing warmth towards Kurogane? Didn't he say he got too close in the earlier chapter?
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Snow-chan on November 06 2006, 02:07 am
I too am in the camp of "simply from Celes", in a way I would be even disappointed if it was otherwise since I like the disattachment to our world.
As to why the Cyrillic characters were used, my reasoning would be that even if he is not of this world, to represent his language still you'd use characters familiar to the readers that are; let's admit that Russian letters are cool-looking while also foreign-looking enough to most readers to be accepted for someone from a world away, while they are also used in a place (or better put in Russia's case part of a place) that has climate similar to Celes. And that's all the connection there is.
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: CLAMP-yuuko on November 06 2006, 04:09 am
don't forget that Fai is after all a manga character,his physical features has nothing to do with his origins,it is only his way of life and personnality that matter :okay:!
for instance in CCS Sakura has got brown hair and green eyes which is not very common for japanese,but her school life is typically nippon.but Shaolan has got more physical similarities with japan people while he is in fact chinese and his difference is displayed by the fact that he is very awkward about japan cultures,so it means that CLAMP don't consider the appearance but rather the behaviour :keke:!

so even if Fai doesn't look like french he really acts like a french (and personnally i can tell that blond hair and blue eyes are very standard in my country :surprised:)

... i don't know why but i feel like if some members are going to strike me down because they want Fai to share a bond with their country :sweatdrop:

I always thought that Fay was norwegian;) And blue eyes and blond hair is very common here, and it's so cold too! Ah I guess I just want Fay to have something to do with my country. I think all of us those. But still... I am still voting for the scandinavia norwegian origin:D Maybe the spoiler's are diffrent from the actual chapitre drawings.
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Ando on November 06 2006, 04:35 am
I bring you: the ultimate reason why Fai can't be from any of your countries - his language. Looking at Fai's delicate, etheral appearance, his fine clothing and the symbols of his magic, his mother tongue just have to be the most melodious one ever, with lots and lots of crisp vowels flowing like honey from the speaker's lips - in short, perfect for singing - don't you think? And while the Scandiniavian languages sure are melodious, they aren't smooth enough, whereas Russian is too harsh, and French varies between being too nasal and too throathy for Fai.

Bwahahahaha. Try to argue against that.
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: CLAMP-yuuko on November 06 2006, 04:42 am
That is a good argument indeed. I kind of agree. Fay's language must be the most beautiful of all. And scandinaian language is nothing near the most beautiful:D
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Kjesta on November 06 2006, 04:58 am
I agree with my dear brother, he's totally right :wink:

But, you know - I have synesthesia and I once started inventing new words which match the meaning as well. For example, my word for blue is made entirely of blue (okay, okay, the i is white... but it matches as well) letters and in my opinion, it sounds like something that could be from Fai's language. Blue is "fluil". Violet is also matching, as it's "yl".

Btw, can someone Japanese-speaking tell me what "suki dayo" means? I've seen it translated as "I love you" and "I like you", so what's right? Is it more of a romantic thing to say?
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Ando on November 06 2006, 05:19 am
I agree with my dear brother, he's totally right :wink:

Thank you. :) Where have you been hiding lately? I haven't seen you around.

But, you know - I have synesthesia and I once started inventing new words which match the meaning as well. For example, my word for blue is made entirely of blue (okay, okay, the i is white... but it matches as well) letters and in my opinion, it sounds like something that could be from Fai's language. Blue is "fluil". Violet is also matching, as it's "yl".

So L can be both blue and violet, then? I, too, think that different letters can be differently coloured depending on the coulours of the letters surrounding them... but for me, i and L are yellow when standing separately. Your words do give a feeling of their respective colour, though, especially "fluil".

Btw, can someone Japanese-speaking tell me what "suki dayo" means? I've seen it translated as "I love you" and "I like you", so what's right? Is it more of a romantic thing to say?

"Suki" literary means "to like", but it can be translated to "love" and is sometimes used in a romantic sense as well. When Shaoran (the CCS one must be spelled with a h, according to my brain) finally confesses his feeling for Sakura, he tells her Ore wa omae suki da yo!, obviously with the meaning "I love/I'm in love with you".

For yet another example, "daisuki" is a verb that can be translated as "to like very much". Tomoyo tells Sakura at one point "Watashi mo Sakura-chan daisuki desu wa" (I too like Sakura-chan a lot"), to which Sakura, oblivious as always, replies "Watashi mo!" (Me too!"). Tomoyo says that the two of them are talking about different kinds of "like/love". So everything depends on context. You understand?
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Snow-chan on November 06 2006, 05:21 am
I bring you: the ultimate reason why Fai can't be from any of your countries - his language. Looking at Fai's delicate, etheral appearance, his fine clothing and the symbols of his magic, his mother tongue just have to be the most melodious one ever, with lots and lots of crisp vowels flowing like honey from the speaker's lips - in short, perfect for singing - don't you think? And while the Scandiniavian languages sure are melodious, they aren't smooth enough, whereas Russian is too harsh, and French varies between being too nasal and too throathy for Fai.

Bwahahahaha. Try to argue against that.
I agree (even if I have never understood why languages with lots of vowels are considered beautiful, coming from a country with such a language, I do not consider it exceptionally lovely myself), the closest in sound I can imagine is Tolkien's Quenya (which was inspired by Finnish that is very very similar to my own, Estonian ;)) but even more melodious.
Ai! laurië lantar lassi súrinen,
           YĂ©ni ĂşnĂłtimĂ« ve rámar aldaron!
           YĂ©ni ve lintĂ« yuldar avánier
           mi oromardi lisse-miruvĂłreva
           AndĂşnĂ« pella, Vardo tellumar
           nu luini yassen tintilar i eleni
           Ăłmaryo airetári-lĂ­rinen.
~JRRT, FOTR
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Tatasenko on November 06 2006, 06:59 am
of course Fai's voice is melodious,after all he is an amazing singer  :haha:!

but i think that you have a little misunderstood me,i was not talking about Fai's nationalty but Fai's affinity!
evidently he isn't born in France and hasn't took a plane to go to Japan to meet Shaolan Sakura and Kurogane,CLAMP's world is timeless and immaterial!
Fai comes from Celes,a country which has his own customs,rules,and civilisation,but netherveless CLAMP's brainwaves are naturally always based on reality if they want to create credibles characters!
Kurogane has definitely been created as from japanese features and personnality,and Fai clearly seems to share similarities with europeans,so he has been elaborated according to a anthology of all the countries that compose this continent  :okay:!

but to my point of view Fai really has got french attitude because of his name,his flavours,his way of thinking,his conception of life,and his poetic way of speaking!
he is like a PRINCE  :haha:!
Fai is not french but he ACTS like a french so for me it means that he is in some way french!
(sorry i'm too stubborn to change entirely my mind  :sweatdrop:)
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Becster on November 06 2006, 07:34 am
I think Fai is Celesian. Pure and simple. Yes, if you were to base him in a real world situation, he would be Western, or European I believe, but the point is the worlds in Tsubasa are not real worlds.

In all honesty, this is getting stupid. O_o Fai is not French, he is not German, nor Scandiavian, Norweigan, Dutch, Estonian, British (he doesn't have a monocle like all us Brits do. *BRICKED*) nor is he American. You can't even use Syaoran and Sakura as examples of real world things, as I am 90% sure Japanese cities and towns are not surrounded by desert.

And unless someone can prove to me that France is never ending tundra with a floating castle (with shiny wing things 8D), I will never believe Fai is French. ._.
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Kjesta on November 06 2006, 07:52 am
Thank you. :) Where have you been hiding lately? I haven't seen you around.

So L can be both blue and violet, then? I, too, think that different letters can be differently coloured depending on the coulours of the letters surrounding them... but for me, i and L are yellow when standing separately. Your words do give a feeling of their respective colour, though, especially "fluil".

"Suki" literary means "to like", but it can be translated to "love" and is sometimes used in a romantic sense as well. When Shaoran (the CCS one must be spelled with a h, according to my brain) finally confesses his feeling for Sakura, he tells her Ore wa omae suki da yo!, obviously with the meaning "I love/I'm in love with you".

For yet another example, "daisuki" is a verb that can be translated as "to like very much". Tomoyo tells Sakura at one point "Watashi mo Sakura-chan daisuki desu wa" (I too like Sakura-chan a lot"), to which Sakura, oblivious as always, replies "Watashi mo!" (Me too!"). Tomoyo says that the two of them are talking about different kinds of "like/love". So everything depends on context. You understand?

I'm sorry, I haven't really been in the mood to discuss about TRC lately... My grandmother died and everything's been a little messy. (The funeral is on Tuesday.) So I hope everything will settle soon and I'll post more often again :)

L actually isn't violet, it's blue as well. But y influences it quite a lot so it doesn't really change the word's colour :wink:

Weeh, thanks for explaining! You know, there's this anime, Wolf's Rain, and Tsume and Toboe are just so... couple-ish >/////<! When Toboe said "Suki dayo" to Tsume, I of course wanted it mean "I love you" XD~
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Smile_For_Me on November 06 2006, 08:38 am
Kjesta, sorry about your grand ma

I think Fai is Celesian. Pure and simple. Yes, if you were to base him in a real world situation, he would be Western, or European I believe, but the point is the worlds in Tsubasa are not real worlds.

In all honesty, this is getting stupid. O_o Fai is not French, he is not German, nor Scandiavian, Norweigan, Dutch, Estonian, British (he doesn't have a monocle like all us Brits do. *BRICKED*) nor is he American. You can't even use Syaoran and Sakura as examples of real world things, as I am 90% sure Japanese cities and towns are not surrounded by desert.

And unless someone can prove to me that France is never ending tundra with a floating castle (with shiny wing things 8D), I will never believe Fai is French. ._.

Fai is Celesain, nothing else , and since when did we get to what race Fai is? Over the french words he said? Ohh and about the all Brits have Monocles, not true, have you seen Weiss Kruez Gluhen, the American has one, haha, I love joking around....
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Becster on November 06 2006, 08:43 am
Ohh and about the all Brits have Monocles, not true, have you seen Weiss Kruez Gluhen, the American has one, haha, I love joking around....

*LOUD FAKE GASP* LIES. Only the British are pemitted to wear monocles!! How dare THEY?! *FAINT*
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Smile_For_Me on November 06 2006, 08:51 am
Speaking of monocles, dosn't Fei Wang Reed have one, or dose he have any other wardrob for that matter, he must smell by now.....

Who else has monocles?
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: selenityshiroi on November 06 2006, 09:48 am
*LOUD FAKE GASP* LIES. Only the British are pemitted to wear monocles!! How dare THEY?! *FAINT*

The next thing you know, people other than the British will be drinking TEA!  WITH SCONES!

WE MUST STOP THIS TRAVISTY!!!!!
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Capella on November 06 2006, 12:32 pm
True, Fei-Wong Reed does have a monocle, but he's related to Clow and therefore part British, so that's okay. He can wear a monocle without upsetting the natural order of the universe. *nods*
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Renaya on November 06 2006, 03:37 pm
so basically, the spoiler only saying what the wishes of the groups from now on, which different from the wishes at the beginning of the story. Ooo I wish there's something else happening other than this and not Yuuko only saying " go now...blablabla"  in the last page, I miss Fuuma and kamui....><
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: nefadol on November 06 2006, 03:59 pm
I've noticed lately that the spoilers tend to only highlight a small portion of the chapter.  The ones for the last chapter made it seem like the whole chapter consisted of Fai's past, when in reality it was only around 2 pages.  Wouldn't put it past it being the same here.

I don't really mind a chapter of just talking so long as we learn something, but some more action would be nice. -_-
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: ishiyaki on November 07 2006, 12:49 am
spoilers 134 here:
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Chapitre 134
The only existence

Yuuko: Of course there are things that disappeared too,
but the things that were born are also numerous.
That's why it should be all right for you to make choices about what's to come.

Sakura: ... The journey
we'll continue it
for the sake of regaining Shaoran-kun's heart.

Fai: It'll be okay even if I go too.
My only princess (vi la princia). [T/N: I -think- the half-width katakana here is Fai saying it in his native language. A few entries down in the BBS/blog thing this came from, someone put up ways to say "princess" in several languages, so they might've been trying to find out what Fai's language sounds like.]

Kurogane: To return to Nihon country.
That won't change.
But there are things that have changed.
It should be okay even if there's more than one promise.
Besides,
I also want to be able to meet that bastard I've been searching for. [T/N: He used "yatsu" -- not exactly "bastard", but it'll have to do.]

Shaoran: There's something I want to recover.
Maybe it won't return anymore,
but
if I'm able to honor it,
then I want to. [T/N: I thought that the "honoring a promise" idea would be more appropriate here, but he might be talking about protecting someone or something. I don't really know what these lines are about.]
I want to go with you.

Yuuko: Understood.
Then, go
as your desire likes. [T/N: It could be "to where your desire likes" too. It's just my bias in favor of "へ" that made me pick "as" rather than "to". ^.^]

Teaser [T/N: I think.]: Sins that cannot be erased, the past, all is carried on their shoulders. They start to walk once again
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Sandra-chan on November 07 2006, 02:36 am
I'm really tempted to read those spoilers, but instead I'll wait for the chapter and get to know what it's about then. I think it's more fun that way :)
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: mizunotsubasa on November 07 2006, 06:02 am
chapter 134 is up on tsubasa2005.com/bbs, but unable to get it.
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Sandra-chan on November 07 2006, 06:03 am
Really!? Maybe you have to have a password?...........
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Sabbe-chan on November 07 2006, 06:06 am
Ooohhh,The scans are up already?... I really wan't to read this chapter..

BTW, nice set you have, mizunotsubasa! =)
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Mari on November 07 2006, 06:16 am
Ack ><

I'm guessing you have to be a member to see 'em...?
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Sandra-chan on November 07 2006, 06:20 am
Ack ><

I'm guessing you have to be a member to see 'em...?

It seems like it..... :cry:
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Mari on November 07 2006, 06:21 am
Two pics from Tsubasa2005 over at kowaiki's LJ.

Yay! R!Syaoran gets to speak! ^^

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Seems like Fay gives Sakura's hand a kiss too
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Elenath on November 07 2006, 06:34 am
I'm exited about the new chapter comming out, don't get me wrong.
But something tells me that the extra wait will be for nothing...
We need character development, we NEED TO MOVE OUT of Tokyo! PLEASE!
We need Kurogane taking Fye to a secluded area where they can have a much needed talk.. and something else!
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Sandra-chan on November 07 2006, 07:24 am
We need character development, we NEED TO MOVE OUT of Tokyo! PLEASE!
We need Kurogane taking Fye to a secluded area where they can have a much needed talk.. and something else!

Yep  :hehe:
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: mela on November 07 2006, 07:43 am
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Fay kissed Sakura's hand and said something like "My only princess"

*HEADDESK*
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: KratosAurion on November 07 2006, 08:03 am
I thought chapter 134 would come out on wednesday... anyway, the sooner the better ^^
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Becster on November 07 2006, 08:36 am
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Fay kissed Sakura's hand and said something like "My only princess"

*HEADDESK*

AHA...AHAHAHAHAHA....AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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LIEK, OMG. FAI/SAKURA IZ SOOO CANONKNONONONNN!!1!!1!!ONEONE!!1!!! BECUZ NO 1 WHO RESPECTS SOME1 ELSE KISSEZ THERE HAND. ROFL.

Cute, but I think that made what I think of anything Fai/Sakura shippers will say very clear.

It's platonic people.
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Emiko on November 07 2006, 08:50 am
Apparently the FaixSakura shippers all skipped the chapter in Piffle where Fai was getting all shippy and "oh, heartwarming~" over Syaoran and Sakura, moments before having a little heart-to-heart with his vampire love slave there.

FaixSakura is just so platonic. Fai is very gentlemanly (remember him holding her hand to help her up in Jade?) so it really doesn't mean anything that he'd kiss her hand.

"My only princess" seems like a bizarre line to me, though. Does Fai know a lot of princesses? What's the significance of Sakura being the only one?
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: KratosAurion on November 07 2006, 09:03 am
Apparently the FaixSakura shippers all skipped the chapter in Piffle where Fai was getting all shippy and "oh, heartwarming~" over Syaoran and Sakura, moments before having a little heart-to-heart with his vampire love slave there.

FaixSakura is just so platonic. Fai is very gentlemanly (remember him holding her hand to help her up in Jade?) so it really doesn't mean anything that he'd kiss her hand.

"My only princess" seems like a bizarre line to me, though. Does Fai know a lot of princesses? What's the significance of Sakura being the only one?

Yes, Fai's relationship with Sakura is more platonic than anything else, although I admit i'm quite surprised about all the afection that he's having with her recently... still, like you said, he's gentlemanly so it's no big deal...

I'm wondering if R!Syaoran is pissed :XD:, or sad cause Sakura isn't that close to him
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Spoonful on November 07 2006, 09:27 am
"My only princess" seems like a bizarre line to me, though. Does Fai know a lot of princesses? What's the significance of Sakura being the only one?

HE IS A KUROGANE COPYCATTER.

IT IS MORE PROOF OF THEIR LOVE.
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Tricky on November 07 2006, 10:08 am
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"My only princess" seems like a bizarre line to me, though. Does Fai know a lot of princesses? What's the significance of Sakura being the only one?

I don't think he known any princesses, honestly, perhaps only a prince at one point in time. So, he has never "served" or "cared" for a princess.
This puts more backing behind Chii as well. Meaning, I think, that Chii and Fai DON'T have a romatic relationship. If they did, it would have been possible for him to see her as a "princess". However, since Sakura is the only one he has ever treated her as such, this puts more evidece out that Chii resembles more of a pet to Fai, then as a lover.
^.~
Thats what I got out of it anyway.
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: suu_no_clover on November 07 2006, 10:59 am
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I'm wondering if R!Syaoran is pissed :XD:, or sad cause Sakura isn't that close to him
I don't think he cares as much as CCS!Syaoran, or C!Syaoran would... I think he more wants to protect her cause he feels guilty... maybe that's just the drift I got.
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Emiko on November 07 2006, 11:11 am
I don't think he known any princesses, honestly, perhaps only a prince at one point in time. So, he has never "served" or "cared" for a princess.

Oh, I was just joking with that line, lol. I find the line itself bizarre.

I agree with R!Syaoran probably feeling guilty about the whole Sakura thing. And he's got that attachment to Watanuki that seems rather important to him. Which may or may not have anything to do with anything, but it's pretty much stumped me.
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: princesslore on November 07 2006, 11:13 am
To be honest, I'm a little confused about Fai's, Syaoran's and Sakura's real feelings. I don't like FaiXSakura pairing. It's kinda cute but......
I still don't like it.
I'll kick someone if Sakura falls in love with Fai or something like it!!!

(Sorry for those FaiXSakura Fans >.<!!!)
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: KratosAurion on November 07 2006, 12:02 pm
At this point it's very hard to know what does everyone feel, specially R!Syaoran. He probably feels guilty like most of you said, and we're yet to see him caring and watching over Sakura all the time like C!S did

About SakuraxFai, I dont think it will happen. Sakura belongs to Syaoran and that's it >.<
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: nefadol on November 07 2006, 12:42 pm
If Fai is swearing loyalty to Sakura as a princess, that should make it glaringly obvious the status of their relationship as he views it.  He's going to protect her like a subject to royalty would, but it is significant in that Fai is going to be focusing on something that requires him to live.

If you think about it, he can't exactly die or be killed and protect her, now can he?  So that means that he's going to have to rely on Kurogane, doesn't it? ;)
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Jeannette on November 07 2006, 01:42 pm
134 translation out here (http://kowaiki.livejournal.com/88518.html) along with a few pics.
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Capella on November 07 2006, 02:08 pm
All right, a translation!
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I find Fai's line about not being able to use healing magic interesting for some reason. Is it not his kind of ability? Was he never taught it for some reason?

And Kurogane's line about being able to have two promises sounds like it's referring his past attachment to Tomoyo-hime and he present attachment to Fai and the kids.

Aw, Sakura and real!Syaoran are being cute.
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: mela on November 07 2006, 02:10 pm
I think I fell asleep reading the translation.

*snorrreeee*

Why don't they just leave instead of talking about it...?
Title: Re: Chapter 133
Post by: Elenath on November 07 2006, 02:47 pm
I think I fell asleep reading the translation.

*snorrreeee*

Why don't they just leave instead of talking about it...?

I second that. As I predicted, this chapter will be a dissapointment... aww come on, Clamp! Give us something juicy!

All right, a translation!
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I find Fai's line about not being able to use healing magic interesting for some reason. Is it not his kind of ability? Was he never taught it for some reason?

And Kurogane's line about being able to have two promises sounds like it's referring his past attachment to Tomoyo-hime and he present attachment to Fai and the kids.

Aw, Sakura and real!Syaoran are being cute.

I found taht interesting too.. I wonder why he can't/Isn't able to... Is it because C!Syaoran took his eye.. perhaps
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That half of the magic Syao took had the ability to heal? It could make sence, after all, he will need it against future battles.