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Title: The ultimate battle *insert dramatic music*
Post by: Kjesta on September 17 2006, 10:32 pm
Well, I was thinking about this:

What would happen if Kurogane and Fai had to fight each other? Just imagine Fai would be willing to fight and they both were willing to kill. They're both doing their best. Who, do you think, would win?

I personally totally root for Fai. With all those incredible powers of his and his other excellent skills, he's likely to be superior to Kurogane in my opinion. And even after the vampire thing, he may have lost half of his magic but he's probably gained more speed, strength, better reflexes and such.

That's why I vote for Fai. Besides, I love the idea of Fai being better in battle than Kurogane since it'd totally change the things *___* Say, Fai could easily make Kurogane go away or leave him but he rather opens up slowly, oh so slowly. Or he is willing to be the "weaker" one in their relationship, as he seems to be at the moment. (Darn, I can't explain, though I know perfectly well what I mean *headdesk*)

~*Kjesta*~
Title: Re: The ultimate battle *insert dramatic music*
Post by: tsuki on September 17 2006, 10:55 pm
lol!!no!!i vote for Kuro-pon!!he is a swordsmaster!!of course he will win!!& Fye is not getting serious when he is in battle!!*hehe,sorry*but,if he uses his magic,my Kuro-pon will lose.........don know what to tell......and.....what if one day,CLAMP will make they fight each other??*spoiler*nononononono!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!my lovely FYEXKuro will not fisht each other!!!!!!!!! >_<
Title: Re: The ultimate battle *insert dramatic music*
Post by: ~Bloody_Rose~ on September 17 2006, 10:58 pm
No one would win.. in other words tie.. t'could be they die together or no one wins at all.. since Kurogane is very skilled at swords (very skilled at that) and Fai is good at magic...

TIE...

(why would lovers fight anyway?) :XD:
Title: Re: The ultimate battle *insert dramatic music*
Post by: Ando on September 17 2006, 11:27 pm
I voted Fai, for the same reason as my sweet sister (except for that I loathe the concept of "uke" and "seme" that she talks about): magic as strong as we can assume Fai's is, even if he only has half of it left, wins over Kuro's, though kick-assy, combat skills any time. Plus, Fai's pretty decent a fighter even without using magic.
Title: Re: The ultimate battle *insert dramatic music*
Post by: Kjesta on September 18 2006, 12:08 am
I voted Fai, for the same reason as my sweet sister (except for that I loathe the concept of "uke" and "seme" that she talks about): magic as strong as we can assume Fai's is, even if he only has half of it left, wins over Kuro's, though kick-assy, combat skills any time. Plus, Fai's pretty decent a fighter even without using magic.

Nah, brother dear (I wish I'd get along with my real brother like this XD), I wasn't talking about the seme-uke thing - rather that Fai is the one being dependant on Kurogane now and everything. And he seems a lot more unstable than Kurogane and, instead of being strong to get rid of Kuro's tries to get through his masks, he rather lets himself being cornered and asked all that questions about himself. I'm sure he had the choice whether to let Kurogane go on or not and he decided to let it happen.

no!!!!!!!kurogane fans!!!vote here!!or FK fans!!kurogane will lost!!ianai!!!!!!!!!!!

Please don't get this wrong, but could you try to use less exclamation marks? It makes your posts hard to read.
Just a quote for fun: "Multiple exclamation marks", he claimed, "are a sure sign of a diseased mind." (Don't feel offended, I don't mean to insult you or anything ^_~)
Title: Re: The ultimate battle *insert dramatic music*
Post by: Rusty on September 18 2006, 12:15 am
I voted Fai because well hes a magician and hes pretty good at it.. like in Le Court he broke the barrier proving hes stronger than the strongest magicians there.
and also because he has his own fighting skills apart from magic and also won't he get that vampire weapon as well? the one that Kamui uses?
Title: Re: The ultimate battle *insert dramatic music*
Post by: Ando on September 18 2006, 12:23 am
Nah, brother dear (I wish I'd get along with my real brother like this XD), I wasn't talking about the seme-uke thing - rather that Fai is the one being dependant on Kurogane now and everything. And he seems a lot more unstable than Kurogane and, instead of being strong to get rid of Kuro's tries to get through his masks, he rather lets himself being cornered and asked all that questions about himself. I'm sure he had the choice whether to let Kurogane go on or not and he decided to let it happen.

Alrighty then. I can agree with that kind of "weaker".

Most people seem to agree that Fai would win, given his magic and all. To get the discussion going, let's say he for some reason couldn't or wouldn't use any magic in this battle - then who do you think would be victorious?
Title: Re: The ultimate battle *insert dramatic music*
Post by: Renaya on September 18 2006, 12:36 am
gezz...i don't know , depend on situation I guess, and both Kurogane and Fai are different type of fighter too, one is swordman and one is mage or wizard, put them in fighting, well, in RPG, it's bad luck for swordman I guess, unless he's fast enough and can get to Fai before finishing the incantation (what am I babbling about here..).  And I bet if they do it seriously, one of them will lose purposely and make it a tie ^^;
Title: Re: The ultimate battle *insert dramatic music*
Post by: kudan on September 18 2006, 12:37 am
Should be Fai. ^^ Just look at the battle between him and Kurogane in episode 16. XD
Title: Re: The ultimate battle *insert dramatic music*
Post by: Kjesta on September 18 2006, 12:40 am
Most people seem to agree that Fai would win, given his magic and all. To get the discussion going, let's say he for some reason couldn't or wouldn't use any magic in this battle - then who do you think would be victorious?

In that case, it'd be a tie, I think. Kurogane is an excellent fighter but Fai is a combat veteran as well, so I think they're equal. Though... Considering BT's filler (episode 16) he'd still win I think. While Kurogane was doing his best in fighting, Fai was just playing with him. And when Kurogane missed him with his sword, he was so close to him - if he were fighting for real, he could have easily kissed done any harm to him. He just didn't because he didn't want to.
Title: Re: The ultimate battle *insert dramatic music*
Post by: Capella on September 18 2006, 01:17 am
I'd consider it a tie. If Fai could be talked into fighting properly, that is. They have very different fighting styles, which I think makes it more even, though possibly less exciting. Fai's magic operates on long range, and Kurogane's sword techniques (in proper anime style) also do so, so the difference in their physical strengths wouldn't come into play as much. Fai's dodging would make it difficult for Kurogane to engage him at close range, I believe. If they can hit each other at all, the battle would still be more a matter of endurance than anything else, which I think would lead to a tie/draw.
Title: Re: The ultimate battle *insert dramatic music*
Post by: Dayanira on September 18 2006, 02:04 am
Even though i believe Fai may be stronger than Kuro, i still can't imagine them fighting seriously - aiming to hurt/kill each other.  Their feelings wouldn't let them! Unless one were to lose his mind (oh what a drama!)! And then (in MY opinion) the other would either let himself be hurt, or avoid badly injuring his friend. And if they really had to fight, they would make it tie (i think ep 16 was absolutely GENIOUS with that idea), or one of them would lose on purpose. Yeah, something like that :heh:
So my answer is "a tie"
Title: Re: The ultimate battle *insert dramatic music*
Post by: Kjesta on September 18 2006, 02:33 am
You know, I also think they'd never hurt each other out of his free will - but I was merely thinking about who's fighting skills would be better if they both tried their hardest ^_~ So this is more about "Who fights better?" than "What would happen if they had to fight?"
Title: Re: The ultimate battle *insert dramatic music*
Post by: Rekall on September 18 2006, 02:35 am
Tie.  Clothes would start being ripped off during the battle from all the attacks and then both would forget everything about fighting.
Title: Re: The ultimate battle *insert dramatic music*
Post by: Jeannette on September 18 2006, 02:37 am
Tie.  Clothes would start being ripped off during the battle from all the attacks and then both would forget everything about fighting.
xd Best reasoning yet. Agreed.
Title: Re: The ultimate battle *insert dramatic music*
Post by: Kjesta on September 18 2006, 02:39 am
You win the internet, Rekall XD I'm proud of such an intelligent fellow fan in KF fandom. Why haven't I thought of this one-and-only solution? XD
Title: Re: The ultimate battle *insert dramatic music*
Post by: Dayanira on September 18 2006, 03:02 am
You know, I also think they'd never hurt each other out of his free will - but I was merely thinking about who's fighting skills would be better if they both tried their hardest ^_~ So this is more about "Who fights better?" than "What would happen if they had to fight?"
I understand what you mean, i just speak about my vision of this situation and its result ^_^

Tie. Clothes would start being ripped off during the battle from all the attacks and then both would forget everything about fighting.
Yeah, must be it XD
Title: Re: The ultimate battle *insert dramatic music*
Post by: Rekall on September 18 2006, 03:10 am
Hehe, I have a make love, not war view on life. Plus my mind has lived in the gutter for years and I'm a pervert.
Title: Re: The ultimate battle *insert dramatic music*
Post by: Becster on September 18 2006, 06:23 am
Tie. Clothes would start being ripped off during the battle from all the attacks and then both would forget everything about fighting.

Hehe, I have a make love, not war view on life. Plus my mind has lived in the gutter for years and I'm a pervert.

Oh you are so right. And we can throw in the added bonus of traumatised Syaoran who was watching from the sidelines to prevent death and learn fighting skills.

Best. Reasoning. Ever.

All fighting would be forgotten. >D You all know Rekall's right.

--[Edit]--

 In fact, Rekall, you're so right you just earned a cookie. For making me laugh as well XD
Title: Re: The ultimate battle *insert dramatic music*
Post by: Rekall on September 18 2006, 08:50 am
Yay! Thank you Becster! XD
Title: Re: The ultimate battle *insert dramatic music*
Post by: ~Bloody_Rose~ on September 18 2006, 06:07 pm
Tie. Clothes would start being ripped off during the battle from all the attacks and then both would forget everything about fighting.
wow! best reasoning ever!!!
Title: Re: The ultimate battle *insert dramatic music*
Post by: Konata Izumi on September 18 2006, 06:32 pm
I'd say, it is a tie. Me thinks Kuro and Fai can compete against each other and their power is nearly the same. Although Fai is an expert magician and Kuro is good with physical fighting, me thinks those 2 factors will only make it even more of a tie. Just my 2 cents though... ^^
Title: Re: The ultimate battle *insert dramatic music*
Post by: Tricky on September 19 2006, 02:03 pm
There is too much we don't know about Fai. Plus, in recent chapters you are lead to believe he is more powerful than we think.

*kind of ot*
I kinda think it would have been more interesting if it were between the entire main cast. (Including Syaoran, Sakura, and Mokona.) I think Sakura would win again all of them.