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General Discussions => Anything goes... => Topic started by: moezychan on July 12 2006, 12:16 pm
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Ok, I didn't want to do this, and if this topic ends up being locked, so be it, but I need to do this.
I joined this forum well over a year ago because I was new to the anime/manga world and wanted to join a community that would share my love for it, and I could learn more, and share what little knowledge I've had, though it has grown over the past year. I remained with this forum, despite all the rough times, and various fights.
Now to state my purpose. When I first joined, this was a community that told of their views on CCS, TRC, and all other types of anime/manga, but not anymore. If anything, this forum has become a place where members share what they had for dinner, or what their favorite color is. I am frankly sick of how the what board is taking over the entire forums. That's all anybody posts anymore. If anything, the only time we discuss anime/manga is when a new episode is aired or a new chapter comes out for Tsubasa.
Now I have nothing against posting in the What Board, but is that all we're here for? I want to remain with this place because of all the wonderful people I've met, but at the same time, I want to talk about meaningful posts. If you don't believe me, just check the forums statistics. The posts are up in Anything Goes, and are way down in any anime/manga threads, whether with Tsubasa or CCS or any other show or manga.
It has come to this. If this forum doesn't change and be the wonderful forum that shows its love for anime/manga then I have to give an ultimatum. I will leave this place for good if it isn't changed in the next month. And trust me, I'm serious. If you don't believe me, check my posts. I haven't made any posts in the last two days, and furthermore, I've only made about 2 a day beyond that for the past month. I want to be a part of this community, but not if it isn't about sharing our love for anime/manga. That's all I have to say. And again, if you lock this so be it, but at least it'll tell me that you read it, and maybe, that'll help you all to think about what we've become.
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It took a lot of nerve to post this, sempai. ^_^ For that, I already applaud you.
And it's true. I think we're all a bit neglectful of the real reason we 'should have' joined an anime and manga forum community. To discuss our love/like/complete adoration (whichever it is for you) of anime and manga, and largely, CCS and TRC.
Personally, being of a low post count, and a lower intelligence than others, all I can do is really try and post more. And ask that this thread not be locked or flamed, as it's a valid argument.
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I feel a tad bad myself for not posting as much, but my interest in the forum just died. I'm not into this forum like I use to be, to be honest. The last time I posted was June 24th just to wish Moezy a happy birthday.
Anyway, I agree with you Moezy. This place has become where people discuss what they ate last instead of discussing CCS or TRC even. The only thing talked about with TRC is the lastest chapter and the lastest anime episode release. As far as CCS goes, not much discussion on that anymore. Which is too bad because I love CCS and I enjoy talking about it with fellow fans. Maybe even getting into a heated discussion - and hopefully not an arguement. ^^;;; I do plan to post a little more but not that much.
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Well, you certainly have a point. I try not to post in the 'what' board too often, just because I don't like making little, one-word posts. But really, it can be a bit annoying when half the 'recent forum posts' are just quick, pointless posts about what you ate for dinner. I mean, I think it's just a way to get your post-count up. I don't know if anyone actually goes through those threads and reads what each person had to drink last.
Maybe we should have some sort of unwritten rule that you only make a certain number of 'what' posts a day or something. It could be like an unofficial etiquette thing.
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As many of the old-timers know, I generally don't post very often in this part of the forum. As the moderator of the Anime and Manga sub-forum, I'm glad to see a few more posts over there and I really would also love to see more topics in the General Media area as well.
A word on the Cardcaptor Sakura forum...I love the show...the character...EVERYTHING about it (dare I say this?) more than anyone else here. The major drawback unfortunately is that to most people, the series is done and gone and feel there isn't much to talk about CCS anymore. I do love all the pictures being posted and for those who haven't checked, there are some great fanfic stories being written and my feeling is the majority of them aren't getting the praise they really deserve.
Moezy-chan...I really do understand your frustrations here and in many of the things you've said in your post, I do agree. Maybe people reading this thread will realize that as much as we like to hear about the personal side of other members, this place is indeed first and foremost a site dedicated to Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle, Cardcaptor Sakura and the wonderful world of anime and manga. I know this was the main reason why I joined up and while I don't mind talking to others and getting to know them (and I like to think I made some friends here) I would too like to see us talking more about what this forum was made to be.
Okay, I ranted on a little longer than planned but Moezy-chan make some very valid points. I'd really hate to see someone leave because of this. especially one that has contributed generously to CapturedWings.
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It really depends.
Like Arcademan said, as much as CCS is one of the most godly series ever, it's finished.
TRC happens to get less responses at the moment (since it gets buried around the current anime juggernauts)
It's common in any forum to have off-topic sections to garner the most post since it relates to everyone.
At least the place ain't flame-bait.
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I hardly post in the 'what' board at all, but I don't see anything wrong with it. And if half a person's posts are in that forum, well, then that's their problem when the threads get cleaned up and they lose all their posts. And sometimes it's nicer just to leave a couple easy posts and browse over what other people have written rather than get into a heavy discussion. I do understand your point.. and I have seen the number of discussion threads go down in the past months, but one of the reasons for that is also that a lot of the active members have been busy and not been able to get on lately. And also when it comes to TRC and CCS (or any anime/manga, really) there's only so much discussion you can do before the subject is discussed to death and you start repeating things (with an older anime like CCS especially), which is probably why the biggest discussions start up when chapters come out.
And also, although its an anime/manga forum, not everybody comes here to discuss anime/manga all the time (the reason we do have other forums for other subjects)... and not everyone can be on the forum all the time to make long meaningful posts, and also for the reasons I stated above, sometimes there's just nothing to discuss. Although I'm all for manga discussion and everything else, and there's nothing wrong with seeing more topics.
I understand your point and your frustration completely, and I do believe the what board gets abused a little too much, but I don't think offering an ultimatum and threatening to leave the forums is the way to solve the problem. There are plenty of anime topics still active and if you don't like the state of the topics you like I would post more and encourage others to post. And recognize that some people are just busy and can't be posting all the time. I may not constantly post here, but I'm here every day, and I personally don't see anything wrong with the state of the forums right now.
And don't take this the wrong way.. I'm not purposely trying to contradict everything you say. The forums have been slow lately, and I understand that's frustrating if you're an active poster, but I'm just pointing out my views.. no offense intended.
And if members want a rule like Emiko suggested, we can certainly consider that.
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*claps* Thank you, Moezy-chan, for making this post. You've shown great courage by taking this step to help our forums return to the way they once were.
I've come back to these forums after half-a-year, and I was quite surprised to realize that almost no one was posting in any of the Anime/Manga sections of the forums, especially my favourite one - the Cardcaptor Sakura discussion board - the main reason to why I joined this forum in the first place. The CCS board was once a place where other fans shared opinions, views, and love for this anime and manga. Now it's lucky if it receives one [/i] new post in a while -_-
If there is one post about the latest TRC chapter or episode, there are seven posts to counter it in the What board immediately. Due to this, I admit that even I've lost the interest in posting anything meaningful anymore. And I feel truly ashamed for doing so :(
However, for this reason and for the sake of the dedicated members of these forums, I strongly urge everyone please to restrain from posting in the What boards and instead, make an effort to contribute your knowledge to the anime/manga for which you've hopefully joined the CW Forums.
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Lexi - It's possible but pretty much hard since thoughts and contributions about CCS/TRC is way harder than random topics.
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=/ --well i quit..comming here too cuz..ths forum made me bored for the same reason
and..some people *grins* started to piss me off [and they still -___-;;]
and..most of the people..that were my reason..for been here...didn't talk with me at all ;_;
--and now vex left..damn..and..even he is mad with me right now
he..was another..person for why i was here..so
i wonder what i'm doing here o__O'
and..about ..commeting anime
yeah.. i'm sure life is not only about..tsubasa and ccs.-- and now xxxholic
but..is soooo hard to make a chat..about another animes
and..omg..you can't discuss something serius here..withour having someone who jokes about that!!!
so..i really dunno what..we should..do ..to make this ..forum..a "little" more enterteined
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Lexi - It's possible but pretty much hard since thoughts and contributions about CCS/TRC is way harder than random topics.
I understand that random topics do not require much thinking and therefore, are the easier option; Yet, I simply want everyone to try their best to contribute whatever they can towards their favourite anime/manga. I mean, isn't that why we joined CWF?
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some people stay here, while others just let go, it's just a part of life...
I know the forum has lost much of it's former luster, but please understand that it's because people had to have time to think about what to discuss anyway... Besides, unless someone has the guts to start a new thread in any of the other sections aside from here and the what board, people will just tend to go the what board and start spamming and stuff...
It's pretty much hard to think about TRC/CCS stuff all the time, mainly because we cant expand beyond the anime/manga series... I myself may had joined CWF just to share my love of CCS/TRC, but It's hard to think about topics concerning the series themselves.... And besides, TRC and CCS atm are being toppled over by other bigger animes... (o.0)
Well, unless we find a way to "balance" the OT and TRC/CCS related stuff here, me thinks the boards will become as boring as watching reruns of Jay Leno's programming.. (no pun intended on Jay Leno or his fans though.. ^_^;;)
Moezy-chan, you're like one of the posters that kinda influenced me a lot... And I know it may be hard for you to leave here, but if you really wanna go, then go ahead... I know the rest of the posters will accept it... I wish you the best man... And I'm gonna miss you should you leave... I'll give you One last cookie for good times sake... thats the least I can do to pay you back for those pics of firey... ^^
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Thank you so much moezy-chan for making this thread. I think its helping people to realize what's been happening. I think sometimes we just feel like we have nothing to post about except the things we did today or just random things that are non-anime. I think its important to have a good mixture of things to discuss on the forums. I've been rather slow with my posting lately as well. I've somehow lost interest in the forums here but I still check back everyday usually in the what board. Its has gotten out of hand. Sometimes even I forget that we are supposed to be discussing anime and manga, the true reason why we joined up here. I know I joined because of CCS and I intend to stay here. My obsession for TRC and CCS has kinda died down alot but I'm not going to forget it and just push it aside. I loved this forum when I joined and I'm never going to leave it. I've made some wonderful friends here and had lots of good times here. I think that everyone needs to discuss a wide variety of things. It will bring more life into the forums and I'm sure it won't be just in the what board.
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I admit I am guilty of posting on the What Boards, but I do try to limit myself to posting there. I don't really mind it as much, but I do find it kind of irritating when I see tons of posts in a row on the what boards in the "Recent Forum Posts" box but all the discussion posts have had nothing new in them for hours.
I do agree with what has been said though, it is a lot easier to post one or two word posts in the what boards than discussion posts in the anime/manga ones.
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I am seriously, seriously guilty of posting in the what board. I guess I'm wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too shy to post anywhere else, making long, good contributing posts in other boards...but I'll try and do that now. I really don't know too much about anime tho(I'm starting to get into it now). moezy-chan I'll tell you something, it is very hard to gain my respect and u have just done so. I think you have a lot of spirit and pride and I'm simply saying good job! I will also agree with another post I saw on here. From what I've noticed, a lot of people are getting bored with CCS and don't feel like always talking about it. Therefore they post about all kinds of different silly things in the "what" board. It keeps valuable members, so it's not exactly a bad thing. I really hope you don't leave, cause while I may not know you too well, I would still be very sad if u left...
thanx for listening my crap once again :sweatdrop:
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I want to thank you all for your responses. Especially those that gave the negative ones because I can now argue my point. I was hoping for both negative and positive responses to this. I'm even truly surprised that the thread wasn't locked.
Well, you certainly have a point. I try not to post in the 'what' board too often, just because I don't like making little, one-word posts. But really, it can be a bit annoying when half the 'recent forum posts' are just quick, pointless posts about what you ate for dinner. I mean, I think it's just a way to get your post-count up. I don't know if anyone actually goes through those threads and reads what each person had to drink last.
Maybe we should have some sort of unwritten rule that you only make a certain number of 'what' posts a day or something. It could be like an unofficial etiquette thing.
It means a lot to have your support. And this matter has annoyed me to no end. I agree entirely, it's just so members can have more posts. That's why I gave it up. Maybe a rule should be put up as to how many posts a person can make in the what board. It really has gotten out of control.
As many of the old-timers know, I generally don't post very often in this part of the forum. As the moderator of the Anime and Manga sub-forum, I'm glad to see a few more posts over there and I really would also love to see more topics in the General Media area as well.
A word on the Cardcaptor Sakura forum...I love the show...the character...EVERYTHING about it (dare I say this?) more than anyone else here. The major drawback unfortunately is that to most people, the series is done and gone and feel there isn't much to talk about CCS anymore. I do love all the pictures being posted and for those who haven't checked, there are some great fanfic stories being written and my feeling is the majority of them aren't getting the praise they really deserve.
Moezy-chan...I really do understand your frustrations here and in many of the things you've said in your post, I do agree. Maybe people reading this thread will realize that as much as we like to hear about the personal side of other members, this place is indeed first and foremost a site dedicated to Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle, Cardcaptor Sakura and the wonderful world of anime and manga. I know this was the main reason why I joined up and while I don't mind talking to others and getting to know them (and I like to think I made some friends here) I would too like to see us talking more about what this forum was made to be.
Okay, I ranted on a little longer than planned but Moezy-chan make some very valid points. I'd really hate to see someone leave because of this. especially one that has contributed generously to CapturedWings.
Thank you so much Arcademan. It truly means a lot that you support me in this.
It really depends.
Like Arcademan said, as much as CCS is one of the most godly series ever, it's finished.
TRC happens to get less responses at the moment (since it gets buried around the current anime juggernauts)
It's common in any forum to have off-topic sections to garner the most post since it relates to everyone.
At least the place ain't flame-bait.
Yes, I agree that it isn't being run amouk, but at the same time, why even have the Tsubasa and CCS boards open? What is the point in having them if nobody is going to post in them?? Threads are deleted because people become inactive, but the boards stay open like a ghost town. There's no point in having them. If you all love your what boards and Anything goes boards, why not make this into a general forum? But then people would begin to complain because they can't download all the episodes or the manga. That's the point I'm making. It's a forum of leechers and spammers that only care about upping their post count.
I hardly post in the 'what' board at all, but I don't see anything wrong with it. And if half a person's posts are in that forum, well, then that's their problem when the threads get cleaned up and they lose all their posts. And sometimes it's nicer just to leave a couple easy posts and browse over what other people have written rather than get into a heavy discussion. I do understand your point.. and I have seen the number of discussion threads go down in the past months, but one of the reasons for that is also that a lot of the active members have been busy and not been able to get on lately. And also when it comes to TRC and CCS (or any anime/manga, really) there's only so much discussion you can do before the subject is discussed to death and you start repeating things (with an older anime like CCS especially), which is probably why the biggest discussions start up when chapters come out.
And also, although its an anime/manga forum, not everybody comes here to discuss anime/manga all the time (the reason we do have other forums for other subjects)... and not everyone can be on the forum all the time to make long meaningful posts, and also for the reasons I stated above, sometimes there's just nothing to discuss. Although I'm all for manga discussion and everything else, and there's nothing wrong with seeing more topics.
I understand your point and your frustration completely, and I do believe the what board gets abused a little too much, but I don't think offering an ultimatum and threatening to leave the forums is the way to solve the problem. There are plenty of anime topics still active and if you don't like the state of the topics you like I would post more and encourage others to post. And recognize that some people are just busy and can't be posting all the time. I may not constantly post here, but I'm here every day, and I personally don't see anything wrong with the state of the forums right now.
And don't take this the wrong way.. I'm not purposely trying to contradict everything you say. The forums have been slow lately, and I understand that's frustrating if you're an active poster, but I'm just pointing out my views.. no offense intended.
And if members want a rule like Emiko suggested, we can certainly consider that.
Believe me when I say this, I have thought on this long and hard. I had other alternatives, but they're not what I can carry out because I don't have either admin or mod status, and nor do I want it. But my ultimatum is my last resort. I want to stay, truly I do. I love all the people I met here; granted I have had my share of arguments, but nothing that could ruin the forums entirely. I want to help everybody out. I got my title for a reason. It's not like I made it myself. I helped, without expecting anything in return. I want to continue to help, but at the same time, I want my love, and everyone else's love for anime/manga to grow and expand. I found more to the anime world than just CCS and TRC, and it's because of this forum I have.
some people stay here, while others just let go, it's just a part of life...
I know the forum has lost much of it's former luster, but please understand that it's because people had to have time to think about what to discuss anyway... Besides, unless someone has the guts to start a new thread in any of the other sections aside from here and the what board, people will just tend to go the what board and start spamming and stuff...
It's pretty much hard to think about TRC/CCS stuff all the time, mainly because we cant expand beyond the anime/manga series... I myself may had joined CWF just to share my love of CCS/TRC, but It's hard to think about topics concerning the series themselves.... And besides, TRC and CCS atm are being toppled over by other bigger animes... (o.0)
Well, unless we find a way to "balance" the OT and TRC/CCS related stuff here, me thinks the boards will become as boring as watching reruns of Jay Leno's programming.. (no pun intended on Jay Leno or his fans though.. ^_^;;)
Moezy-chan, you're like one of the posters that kinda influenced me a lot... And I know it may be hard for you to leave here, but if you really wanna go, then go ahead... I know the rest of the posters will accept it... I wish you the best man... And I'm gonna miss you should you leave... I'll give you One last cookie for good times sake... thats the least I can do to pay you back for those pics of firey... ^^
I understand that people have lives apart from this place, but if these members have time to do 20 posts on the what board, shouldn't that equal the time to make on real meaningful post? That's what I'm trying to say here.
And I don't have much room left on here, but thank you also Tails. I'm glad I have your support as well.
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This was the first english forum i joined, :'D [My english has improved alot thanks to CW ^^], so CW means alot to me even if i'm not one of the biggest poster in the Tsubasa boards ^^;;. It takes like one second for someone to reply to a post in the 'What board'. And when i'm looking for a topic in Anime & Manga to post in mostly of all the topics are eeh, dead O.o. I don't know why but , i like to watch more un-known animes and later post a thread about it, but i stopped doing that now ^^;. In the begning when i joined the Anime & Manga board was were active so you actually could post a topic about an un-known anime. O.o Now it's almost no meaning to do that. T.T The what board takes all the posts D:.
There i've said mine. Thank you for reading :'D
I support you Senpai! ^^
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Yes, I agree that it isn't being run amouk, but at the same time, why even have the Tsubasa and CCS boards open? What is the point in having them if nobody is going to post in them?? Threads are deleted because people become inactive, but the boards stay open like a ghost town. There's no point in having them.
I don't really understand this part. The TRC general discussions area does get posts. The KuroFai thread in that section is the second most viewed thread here and the ninth by replies. The TRC manga section has been as busy as I've ever seen it. The what board, on the other hand, has no topics in the top ten by views or replies.
I don't think having a few rules for the what board is a bad thing, but I think it's at least fairly spam free. Unlike threads such as the Girl thread, which I usually cringe at. ^^;;
I'm not concerned with other people's post count really. Like Pikari said, if someone is spending all their time posting in the what boards, they are in for a shock when a thread gets deleted, because their post count goes down too. Perhaps threads should be deleted and restarted after hitting 500 posts.
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I don't really understand this part. The TRC general discussions area does get posts. The KuroFai thread in that section is the second most viewed thread here and the ninth by replies. The TRC manga section has been as busy as I've ever seen it. The What Board, on the other hand, has no topics in the top ten by views or replies.
I'll rephrase. The posts that do get made are mainly in two sections, and not much else. What happens when the chapters are done? Then that'll be gone as well. And as for the What Boards, they haven't nearly been around as long as the KuroFai thread, and twice already they've had to be cleared out. That contributes to it. I just want it to be all over. Not two threads. That was my entire point for this. I'm not trying to point fingers at anybody. I just want to see this forum be what it was originally meant to be. I loved to come here when I was a newbie and read up on all the threads. I learned what I know now about anime/manga because of this forum, and I want the same for any other newbies that have joined. Well, the ones that aren't just here to leech or spam anyways.
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I'll rephrase. The posts that do get made are mainly in two sections, and not much else. What happens when the chapters are done? Then that'll be gone as well. And as for the What Boards, they haven't nearly been around as long as the KuroFai thread, and twice already they've had to be cleared out. That contributes to it. I just want it to be all over. Not two threads. That was my entire point for this. I'm not trying to point fingers at anybody. I just want to see this forum be what it was originally meant to be. I loved to come here when I was a newbie and read up on all the threads. I learned what I know now about anime/manga because of this forum, and I want the same for any other newbies that have joined. Well, the ones that aren't just here to leech or spam anyways.
same here, i lost interest a few months ago, i only post here now for the CCS/TRC picture threads and for my TRC upload work, because all the topics that i used to post in are dead (the game topics for example)
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Thank you for starting this thread, moezy-chan! ^_^  I hope you can stay because you're one of the vets that help keep this forum running.  Pikari did say a lot of good things as well as others.   I understand the feeling when there are users who abuse the forum system by "spamming" a lot trying to gain post count.  This happens in a lot of forums. There are always ways to improve forums. A limit on the "What" board sounds nice. As for trying to get back that "discussion seriousness" going on....   Maybe, some alternate sub-forums for some of the major TRC and CCS sections such as "theories", "relationship", etc. to keep discussions rolling instead of just "General TRC Discussion" and "Chatper Discussion"?  There's a way to expand discussion on a manga/anime series.
I'm still rather new around here so I have no ideal what it was like one year ago but I've been on plenty of other fandom message boards across the net for several years now.  That said, I have seen many good forums have an in-coming of new users and then, the dreaded "noobs" (although, I don't like using that term myself). When I first came here, I was a bit surprised by some dis-organization among some of the threads.  I don't mean this as in a bad way but I've been use to other forums having a lot of sub-sections in the past.   In the Fan-Creations' section, the fan-arts mingle with fan-fiction.  ^_^  Just some of my 2-cents.      Â
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I'd like to admit a few things... A long time ago, I joined this forum, just like the way I joined other forums, simply because I hoping to find TRC mp3s and pictures. I was just beginning to like TRC back then, and besides, I thought, this would be a good place to meet and hear from new people who have much to know about TRC as I do.
Today, I admit to not knowing enough about TRC or CCS, and I admit to posting so much on the miscellaneous forums rather on the anime and manga-related forums, but that doesn't mean I'm losing interest or merely raising my post count. You see, as much as my personal involvement in this forum is concerned, I feel strange that I'm still involved in anime unlike most people my age. I find it somehow strange that I talk about TRC and CCSwith my coworkers (who reply to me with raised eyebrows), or bring Mokona and Larg plushies in the office, or have pictures of Sakura on my desktop and folder (and have people ask me about her, in return), or even watch Filipino-dubbed episodes of CCS in the office.
I guess this comes with my own personal grappling with my age. But what never changed is the opportunities I get in this forum to reach out to people and share a part of myself as well. As long as I can meet new people and talk to them, as long as I am among people I can talk and relate with, and as long as I am among fans like me, even if I'm not a rabid fan, then I would want to stay on and learn from everyone in this forum.
I don't really know how to express this, but I still insist that I'm too old for anime now, much more CCS/TRC. Then again, maybe it's CCS and TRC that binds people together, as in the case of this forum, and that's what I like about this place. Just my two cent's worth.
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It depends on the user, the more information rolls around the better.
Though it can change, people need to work hard for it (unfortunately I'm not the comepletely analytical type.)
As with Tenkouken, CCS and TRC is the reason people gets to join here. It can also be its downfall. Which is which? It's up to us.
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I am so guilty of not posting in serious conversations. I feel bad now.
I don't know if this is true to anyone else, but the reason I don't post many meaningful things is because I don't have time to read through all the posts and then write something important. I'm always busy, I guess I should try slowing down.
I also don't post in the TRC threads because I haven't read all the manga or been able to watch all of the show. The last time I went into a TRC thread I got a few things spoiled for me. SO now I stay away.
From now on, I will try to post in topics other than the what board.
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You don't hae to feel guilty for that. If you have a good reason for not participating in either main sections, that's alright. ^______^ The same goes for everyone else who don't post much in the other discussions. I agree that it does depend on the users and what they do with their account. I think moezy-chan is really aiming just at the people who are super super lazy. Hehe...
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Do you think turning the post count off on the What Board would help at all? People may still post in it like crazy, but at least it won't contribute to their number of posts. It might not attract as many people to post in that board, at least for those who just post for posting's sake. O_o This is just a questionable suggestion. I'm just trying to think of ways to encourage more discussion. Sakaki's idea was good too, about restarting the threads in the board every 500 posts. I also liked tg's suggestion of getting sub-forums, or at least more specific threads, for the TRC and CCS forums instead of general discussion threads.
I'm really glad that you pointed this out, Moezy-chan. I'm quite guilty of making useless posts myself, and you reminded me what I'm really here for - TRC and CCS. I hope that we can work together to improve on this situation before the month is over, so that you don't have to leave, and so we don't lose any more valuable members.
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I had a dream about this thread last night :haha:
I dreamt everyone from CW.net got together at this rec centre to discuss this thread and the problems it identified. It was like a group help session. We all had chairs and name-tags. And everyone except me was blonde! LOL.
Anyway, back on topic... Ahem...
Maybe there should be some sort of suggested ratio for how many 'what' posts you should (not HAVE TO, but is reccommended) do in comparison to how many actual discussion posts. I'm not entirely sure we can stop people posting in there excessively, just because people are independent beings and not everyone would follow such a rule even if it was put into effect...
All I can do is promise not to post in the 'What' board at all, to maybe even things out a little. (I never really posted there much in the first place anyway)
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Do you think turning the post count off on the What Board would help at all? People may still post in it like crazy, but at least it won't contribute to their number of posts. It might not attract as many people to post in that board, at least for those who just post for posting's sake. O_o This is just a questionable suggestion. I'm just trying to think of ways to encourage more discussion. Sakaki's idea was good too, about restarting the threads in the board every 500 posts. I also liked tg's suggestion of getting sub-forums, or at least more specific threads, for the TRC and CCS forums instead of general discussion threads.
I'm really glad that you pointed this out, Moezy-chan. I'm quite guilty of making useless posts myself, and you reminded me what I'm really here for - TRC and CCS. I hope that we can work together to improve on this situation before the month is over, so that you don't have to leave, and so we don't lose any more valuable members.
That is a good suggestion, but at the same time, it does have a flaw. The post count in the Chains Boards are also turned off, and people spend almost as much time in there as in the What Board. That might not work. I agree with Emiko-san on making a limit for each day. Say about 5 posts a day in the What Board might change what has been happening.
And thank you very much for showing your support hoshisenshi-san. Knowing that I have your approval is what I was hoping for. And thank you for wanting me to stay. I think if we all work together, I won't have to do it, because truly, I don't want to. And I'm all for tj-san's point on subforums. It was a very valid suggestion.
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That is a good suggestion, but at the same time, it does have a flaw. The post count in the Chains Boards are also turned off, and people spend almost as much time in there as in the What Board. That might not work. I agree with Emiko-san on making a limit for each day. Say about 5 posts a day in the What Board might change what has been happening.
So you aren't annoyed by the post count, you just don't want people posting in anything but the manga/anime sections? That's only going to hurt the forums. Posts generate posts, regardless of where people are posting. The more people know each other, the more likely they are to have valid discussions at some point. And we have always had 'what' topics, they just weren't all put together in a specific section like they are now.
I don't think limiting people to five posts a day in the whole what board is a good idea. When there is nothing new to discuss in anime/manga or when the forums are just slow, we need those other sections to keep the forums moving. Assuming people will start making long ingenious posts in the anime/manga sections just because they can't post to the what board and chains is unrealistic. And checking to make sure everyone is staying on their restricted limit would be extremely time consuming.
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So you aren't annoyed by the post count, you just don't want people posting in anything but the manga/anime sections? That's only going to hurt the forums. Posts generate posts, regardless of where people are posting. The more people know each other, the more likely they are to have valid discussions at some point. And we have always had 'what' topics, they just weren't all put together in a specific section like they are now.
I don't think limiting people to five posts a day in the whole what board is a good idea. When there is nothing new to discuss in anime/manga or when the forums are just slow, we need those other sections to keep the forums moving. Assuming people will start making long ingenious posts in the anime/manga sections just because they can't post to the what board and chains is unrealistic. And checking to make sure everyone is staying on their restricted limit would be extremely time consuming.
No, I think you misunderstood me. It's not about just posting in the anime/manga sections. I understand that posts validate posts. And I don't want to stop any of the people from posting, but is that all we're here for. I'm open to any alternatives. This was merely a suggestion. It's not like I'm trying to get everybody on my side. I am all for having the forums being a fun place, and yes, the what board does make it fun, but that's not all we're here for. If you have any suggestions or alternatives I'm all for hearing them. I want us all to work together on this matter. I'm not a leader; I never was, so I'm not about to start dictating anybody.
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Believe me when I say this, I have thought on this long and hard. I had other alternatives, but they're not what I can carry out because I don't have either admin or mod status, and nor do I want it. But my ultimatum is my last resort. I want to stay, truly I do. I love all the people I met here; granted I have had my share of arguments, but nothing that could ruin the forums entirely. I want to help everybody out. I got my title for a reason. It's not like I made it myself. I helped, without expecting anything in return. I want to continue to help, but at the same time, I want my love, and everyone else's love for anime/manga to grow and expand. I found more to the anime world than just CCS and TRC, and it's because of this forum I have.
Honestly, what turned me off to your post and made my first post so negative was your ultimatum. I found it kind of offending that you had to threaten to leave the forum because people weren't posting in the anime/manga sections, rather than posting there yourself and encouraging others to post without guilt of making you leave. That being said, I understand you're sincere and I'm all for encouraging posts in all sections of the forums. I've seen other TRC forums, and I'm happy that this one does remain relatively spam-free and there are a good amount of mature posters, regardless of how slow it may have been lately, otherwise I would have left long ago. And I think the what board does help with that by keeping spam in it's place.
And all suggestions to improve the board should be welcome. I agree the what boards should be cleaned up regularly, just to get rid of the clutter that accumulates there. I don't see the point to extra subforums in the TRC sections... most of the categories suggested can be contained in one or two long discussion threads, so personally I don't think they need their own subforums or that that would really encourage more posting. I am still in favor though, of an xxxHolic forum since we have several of those topics already and it is closely related to CLAMP and TRC.
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Honestly, what turned me off to your post and made my first post so negative was your ultimatum. I found it kind of offending that you had to threaten to leave the forum because people weren't posting in the anime/manga sections, rather than posting there yourself and encouraging others to post without guilt of making you leave. That being said, I understand you're sincere and I'm all for encouraging posts in all sections of the forums. I've seen other TRC forums, and I'm happy that this one does remain relatively spam-free and there are a good amount of mature posters, regardless of how slow it may have been lately, otherwise I would have left long ago. And I think the what board does help with that by keeping spam in it's place.
And all suggestions to improve the board should be welcome. I agree the what boards should be cleaned up regularly, just to get rid of the clutter that accumulates there. I don't see the point to extra subforums in the TRC sections... most of the categories suggested can be contained in one or two long discussion threads, so personally I don't think they need their own subforums or that that would really encourage more posting. I am still in favor though, of an xxxHolic forum since we have several of those topics already and it is closely related to CLAMP and TRC.
Point taken, and I do apologise for that, but as stated, I really couldn't think of any alternative. I do want to stay, but I also want this forum to have a purpose. And as for posting, believe me, I've tried, but it's not fun posting when nobody replies. I've made complaints about this before, and certain members that will remain nameless have told me that everybody is busy. Ok, I'll go with that, but if everybody is so busy, how can anybody make at least 15-20 posts in a row in the what board? That should almost equal the time to make one long meaningful post.
As for having the boards cleaned up regularly, it still doesn't stop people from posting there. Members will simply make more threads that contain "what" in it. That will also add up to post counts. Now, I have nothing against a high post count, especially considering mine is the second highest in the forums, but the majority of my posts are from either helping people with their problems, or talking about Card Captor Sakura.
Also, I do appreciate you stating your argument without getting mad at me. That helped me to think clearly. I truly don't want to start any flame wars or act like I'm some know-it-all that everybody should listen to. I'm just frustrated, and my frustration does have a breaking point and this was my breaking point.
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I don't see the point to extra subforums in the TRC sections... most of the categories suggested can be contained in one or two long discussion threads, so personally I don't think they need their own subforums or that that would really encourage more posting. I am still in favor though, of an xxxHolic forum since we have several of those topics already and it is closely related to CLAMP and TRC.
I understand.  ^_^ I just notice that special sub-forums for more specific topics can be very effective, but, it will increase the work for admin and moderators to handle.  Encouraging more posting can also be a good thing (for things being on-topic).  ^_o
I agree that there should to be an XXXHolic section. Even if it might get less views, I think it's only fair that XXXHolic should be here too since it's running right along with Tsubasa.
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I could point out the irony of this being posted in the 'Anything Goes'...section however its meaning would be lost by most people here :tongue:
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*looks at my post count* I think I'm one of the guilty ones... ^^; I was at a point of losing interests too though, with me posting in the "what" boards seeming quite meaningless, a reason why I nearly stopped posting as much as I used to in the "what" boards, just before Moezy-chan started this thread. ^^; (Talk about timing. xD) And... like what Pikari said, the "what" board somehow acts as a place to keep spam in it's place, I have a few other suggestions though. ._.
Instead of muting/banning/warning users when they spam or break rules, maybe we can follow what a few forums are using now to keep everything in order. They have a meter somewhere underneath your avatar with something like "number of times warned" and whenever a mod gives a warning, they'll add a point to the meter, until a certain point and the user's banned/suspended etc. A good point about this option is that everyone's able to see the number of times the user is warned everytime he/she posts, ensuring that they'll think twice before spamming or posting anything that breaks the rules. Downside is that few may find it more for a strict forum and leave just because it uses "shame" as punishment, or something that mods use to restrict freedom of speech. ^^;
And... I may be a little bold, but.. ^^; Maybe delete the "what" board? ._. I mean.. I don't see much difference between the "what" board and the "chains" board... And, if there's a board just for topics that start with "what", what about "who", "when", "where" and "how"? Eh.. what I'm trying to explain is that a board that only allows threads that start with a certain word is... (gosh, I can't find the proper adjective to use... @.@) weird and not what we usually find in an anime/manga disscussion forums? :sweatdrop:
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Instead of muting/banning/warning users when they spam or break rules, maybe we can follow what a few forums are using now to keep everything in order. They have a meter somewhere underneath your avatar with something like "number of times warned" and whenever a mod gives a warning, they'll add a point to the meter, until a certain point and the user's banned/suspended etc. A good point about this option is that everyone's able to see the number of times the user is warned everytime he/she posts, ensuring that they'll think twice before spamming or posting anything that breaks the rules. Downside is that few may find it more for a strict forum and leave just because it uses "shame" as punishment, or something that mods use to restrict freedom of speech. ^^;
In a fourm I help in, we have the same thing going on. When a member breaks the rules more then twice, then they get the "bad" under their name. It seems to work. I only had to do it once to one person, and they learn their lesson. And not much people are spaming as much anymore.
And... I may be a little bold, but.. ^^; Maybe delete the "what" board? ._. I mean.. I don't see much difference between the "what" board and the "chains" board... And, if there's a board just for topics that start with "what", what about "who", "when", "where" and "how"? Eh.. what I'm trying to explain is that a board that only allows threads that start with a certain word is... (gosh, I can't find the proper adjective to use... @.@) weird and not what we usually find in an anime/manga disscussion forums? :sweatdrop:
Even though I do agree that the "What Board" is going out of hand. But I do like the board. I do follow the rules by not going crazy on them, but their are alot of newbies that do go crazy on them. I was wondering. You when we make a post, and up above (i'm using the yellow layout), the post is shown by the name & who posted. What if we get rid of that part. Just for the what board. So people can still post, but it won't show above. But when you post somewhere else, it does show. Will that work? I know its not the best idea, but its all I have. :sweatdrop:
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I agree the 'What' board was getting way out of hand. But I don't really think deleting it is the answer, for reasons already stated, and because the 'What' board definitely serves as a way to get people to know each other better. Anywho.
This is the BEST anime/manga forum I have ever been to. Seriously. I've signed up for like five other forums and dropped them after a week or two, because nobody seriously discussed anything, or it was a bunch of fans randomly spouting bad theories. My best, most in-depth discussions have, for the past year or so, been on CW and on LiveJournal. Even if we haven't been having a lot of serious discussion lately, we've been having more than most of the other forums I've seen.
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I signed up in February and only recently started posting, and I have to agree that CW.net is one of the best forums I've ever been on, even if I wasn't around for it's "glory days". Though abuse of the What forum can be a bit daunting, I don't think deleting it will help, since it's sort of an ice-breaker for newbies and it's the only place where some people feel comfortable posting. However, I'd like to see it used less... rabidly.
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I used to only post in the 'What' boards. Well, not just those, but I did post there. I try not to anymore because...well...
...You can't really have a good discussion in a 'What' board. I love being to argue (in a friendly manner) over why pairings work, what's going to happen next in Tsubasa/HOLiC/Or-random-anime-on-the-anime-boards...even just random crack on the new Tsubasa chapter threads to help us get over a shocking revaltion (yes I'm talking to you you lovely Chapter 12- people XD) ...it's fun to do. I've never noticed any real hostility around here, so I have no problem with stating my views. It is sad that this place has been overrun by the 'What' boards...But, as has been said...what good will deleting it do? I mean, it's a place for people to break the ice. I'll confess, I plunged straight into the deep end and posted around the anime forums, and I'm fine...but...for some people it's a nice little way to get a background on the people here. Although there's a pretty delicate balance between that What boards and everything else...and...I agree it's being tilted a leetle bit too much in the wrong direction.
I'm glad you posted this up, so congratulations on having the courage to do so!
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I signed up in February and only recently started posting, and I have to agree that CW.net is one of the best forums I've ever been on, even if I wasn't around for it's "glory days". Though abuse of the What forum can be a bit daunting, I don't think deleting it will help, since it's sort of an ice-breaker for newbies and it's the only place where some people feel comfortable posting. However, I'd like to see it used less... rabidly.
Yes, thank you. You stated my exact purpose. I'll admit, when I was a newbie, I would first go to the anime/manga boards and read, but not post, because I was too shy, so, even though the what board didn't exist back then, I started posting here in Anything Goes so I would feel more comfortable. About 4-5 posts later I began posting in the anime/manga boards. I agree, the what board does take the tension off of some members that are too shy, but there is a huge difference between using it to break the ice, and using it to up your post count.
I'm glad you posted this up, so congratulations on having the courage to do so!
Thank you. It wasn't easy, but I had to. It means a lot that I have your support.
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I have to thirdly agree that this is an excellent board. I sense no hostility here either. This place is even better than the TRC board, thus, this is why I signed up here instead of there. I forgot to mention this but at the Distant Horizons, an Avatar fan forum, they have something similar to a "What" board but there are no restrictions over there because the main "general" part of the forum participates a lot in the main topics (related anything to Avatar, of course). The SDC forum doesn't have a restriction on their "game" section part of the forum either but it isn't abused or anything. >_>
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I signed up a day after this forum was created so yeah, I've discussed and debated with people for awhile. I theorized and my post were usually longer than I have now. I really don't know what happened from now and then. Maybe its cause we've talked about TRC/CCS/Anime/Manga too much and don't know what to say anymore. Or something like that...
I'm not sure. Back then, I remember posting like...huge essays or lots of paragraphs filled with serious discussions and stuff but lately I haven't done anything like that. I do believe the "What" board is getting a bit out of hand but I don't think deleting it is a good thing. As someone already stated before me (look back a few pages), limiting the times you post in the "What" board is a good thing. Maybe 5-8 posts.
CW Forums has seriously gotta be one of the best and I've been around. I'm signed up to a few forums now as well and it isn't nearly as good as being here. The people I've met here are like my internet family now, they like...totally rock. XD But yes, I think using shame or putting that warning mark under a person's username if they accidentally break a rule is a good yet bad idea.
Good because it teaches the person a lesson from never doing it again and bad because it embarasses the person that made the mistake. Yeah...I'm done. xP
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I'm not sure if someone has already mentioned anything I written below because there are too many posts to read and I only got about 20 minutes until I phone up a company for a job, so have no time to read anything, but the first post, but anyway.......
I don't post much on the what board and the reason why I don't post there often is because 95% of everything in the what board consists of one word posts or spam and I prefer not to spam because I don;t want to become a spammy member (sorry if I made anyone that posts on the what board sound like a spammy member) looking at Moezy-Cahn's first post, I have similiarities with her in the reason why she joined this forum and my reason is because I want to talk and share my interests with everyone about Ainme, manga, ccs, tsubasa and other things.Also after a quick look through some of the posts, someone mentioned disabling posts counts and limiting the amount of times per day to post on the what board (sorry i forgot who it was and I got so little time to look through the posts again) and I think thats a great idea. Think about the chains board, it is hidden needing 200+ posts to view it and people can constantly post on the what board to get to the 200+ posts where as I have to wait patiently for interesting topics to post to get up to 200+ posts.
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Normal Forum section hiding is a good thing, but the posts needs some limitations I guess.
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hmmm... maybe we should turn off post count in the what board, like what the mods did in the chains board.... o.0
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Think about the chains board, it is hidden needing 200+ posts to view it and people can constantly post on the what board to get to the 200+ posts where as I have to wait patiently for interesting topics to post to get up to 200+ posts.
That's a pretty good idea. The What Board can be a privilage to those that really contribute. As far as Anything Goes, that's just to let off steam so I have no problem with newbies posting there. Are there any other suggestions? I'm up to hearing anything.
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I'm embarrassed for talking about this, and I feel like I really have no say what-so-ever in this mater, but...
I've been here as a guest for about four months reading about the mang and anime discussions for TRC and I've never ever joined a forum before. I've read them, several times I'll just stay an outsider and read them, but I really care about Tsubasa and I wanted to talk with everyone about it, but I was scared. I felt like, well, what I am, a newbie, and that I didn't have a right to talk about anything, and the people who had been here longer had better ideas and better theories and paid attention better to CLAMP etc.
Since I formed kind of an inferiority complex, and since I've never been on a forum in my life, I came here, to the "Anything goes..." boards to see if I could just talk to someone.
I understand now that this is not the place to just talk to people about anything. Its a place to talk about CCS and Tsubasa and there are other forums for talking about yourself or with other people on no particular topic so I will discontinue use of General Discussions. Its probablly better that I go back to watching and reading everyone's responses anyway.
I understand that is not what you want, but I also understand what it is you want. I'll take my plan of action and do my best to help bring the forum's focus to the series.
I'm sorry you left Moezychan, but I can understand why. Even though I haven't been on this forum long, I've been reading and watching for some time now. ^.~