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Here, courtesy of ladydarkmoon as always<3~
http://ladydarkmoon.livejournal.com/115881.html#cutid1
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I guess you beat me to it, Znuese
ok, clicks download
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WOW.
omg.... I think I might explode...
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Finally.. Two Syaoran's, Sakura is awake, Kamui gre his arm back ^^; or it healed...
and I'm so bloody excited!
and the symbol in his eye! its his Board from CCS! *____*
*reads again*
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*Downloads*....Hurry up!
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....I feel like something very very important just happened, and I missed all of it ._.
...Eh... eheh... guess I'll just sit here and wait for the translation. I must say, I'm a tad dissapointed. I wanted Fai to get involved.
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So Sakura wakes up...Fai encounters the Evil Syoran....then flip's over Yuuko, feeling something out of sorta....Then reed, whatever his name, is controleing the evil Syoran? and whats with the, watch eye on evil Syoran!? none makes since to me XD
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Well, I kind of now get now we got two syaoran's, and the symbol in his eye o.O
Fai, do something and help syaoran!!!!
I kind of get what happen this chapter, but I need a translation, before I can really get it
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What, I was just wonding. Who is Syaoran parents??
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and the symbol in his eye! its his Board from CCS! *____*
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Ah, so that's where it's from. I was wondering why I recognized it.
Anyway... *fangirl squeal* That was so confusing and it just added more questions! I can't wait to see if Sakura winds of seeing this whole... issue. Syaoran looks more beat up than ever now. He might as well take is shirt off completey(I know we'd all love that).
That two young Syaorans flashback thingy was odd... but it sorta tells us why Syaoran can't remember anything before meeting Fujitaka. And I've always been wanting to see a flashback of Syaoran and Fujitaka's meeting. But a translation is greatly needed.
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Ah, so that's where it's from. I was wondering why I recognized it.
Anyway... *fangirl squeal* That was so confusing and it just added more questions! I can't wait to see if Sakura winds of seeing this whole... issue. Syaoran looks more beat up than ever now. He might as well take is shirt off completey(I know we'd all love that).
That two young Syaorans flashback thingy was odd... but it sorta tells us why Syaoran can't remember anything before meeting Fujitaka. And I've always been wanting to see a flashback of Syaoran and Fujitaka's meeting. But a translation is greatly needed.
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Yeah, its the board he uses to detect the clow cards.
(http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/5541/li3bu.jpg)
and yeah, Syaoran striiiip strrrriiiip! >___>
I mean... yeah.. whatever
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....I feel like something very very important just happened, and I missed all of it ._.
...Eh... eheh... guess I'll just sit here and wait for the translation. I must say, I'm a tad dissapointed. I wanted Fai to get involved.
That's exactly the way I feel.
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Fai, should have gotten involved. I mean, can't they see that sakura is waking up, and syaoran (well, yin-syaoran), is kind of beat up, bloody, and well going crazy. Fai, I though you would have gotten involved :cry:
Also, I was just thinking. I don't get the two syaoran part. I mean, did our syaoran go though some sort of mirror and out pops yin-syaoran???
I'm totaly missing some thing here
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IIIIIIIIIIIH!
*downloads without readin the spoilers*
Edit: ARGH! The file is broken! I have to download it again! O_O
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Interesting... So that's what 'evil' Syao meant with the other eye... He messed with 'good' Syaoran's eye. Or gave him his own eye. I'm not sure. That way, even when 'evil' Syao was sealed, a part of him would remain with 'good' Syaoran. But why exactly did Fei Wong seal one half of Syaoran? And what half was it? His hostile side?
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Hmm.. I'll need to read over again because there was long confusing explanations, but let's see if I can give a summary:
Woo, Syaoran's past:
The "yin" Syaoran is the original Syaoran, and a descendant of Clow Reed, and Fei Wong had captured him. He created a fake double of Syaoran, without a soul, that he could use to gather Sakura's feathers. But during the process the real Syaoran took a copy of his heart and put it into the fake one through his right eye. But even though the fake Syaoran now had a heart, and was more susceptible to injury, he still had the instinct to gather the feathers, so Fei Wong released him.. putting him in just the right time and place to set him up to meet Sakura. And he says his plan was perfect until "that witch" interfered...
Eeh... It'll be more accurate when the translation comes out... :sweatdrop:
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i cant download it right now, but i SO cant wait to read it in 4hrs O.O
must resist spoilers....must resist spoilers....
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Hmm.. I'll need to read over again because there was long confusing explanations, but let's see if I can give a summary:
Woo, Syaoran's past:
The "yin" Syaoran is the original Syaoran, and an ancestor of Clow Reed, and Fei Wong had captured him. He created a fake double of Syaoran, without a soul, that he could use to gather Sakura's feathers. But during the process the real Syaoran took a copy of his heart and put it into the fake one through his right eye. But even though the fake Syaoran now had a heart, and was more susceptible to injury, he still had the instinct to gather the feathers, so Fei Wong released him.. putting him in just the right time and place to set him up to meet Sakura. And he says his plan was perfect until "that witch" interfered...
Eeh... It'll be more accurate when the translation comes out... :sweatdrop:
Well, damn. This chapter is DEFINITELY one that needed an explanation. o_o
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Anti-Syaoran's the real Syaoran?! Dang... never saw that coming. Actually, I did. I had a feeling one of them were clones. Since Syaoran was so "lifeless" when meeting Fujitaka, I had a feeling it was him. Jeez... so what kind of fate holds in store for our "clone" Syaoran now? I wonder how he'd react if he found out he was "made" and used.
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Hmm.. I'll need to read over again because there was long confusing explanations, but let's see if I can give a summary:
Woo, Syaoran's past:
The "yin" Syaoran is the original Syaoran, and an ancestor of Clow Reed, and Fei Wong had captured him. He created a fake double of Syaoran, without a soul, that he could use to gather Sakura's feathers. But during the process the real Syaoran took a copy of his heart and put it into the fake one through his right eye. But even though the fake Syaoran now had a heart, and was more susceptible to injury, he still had the instinct to gather the feathers, so Fei Wong released him.. putting him in just the right time and place to set him up to meet Sakura. And he says his plan was perfect until "that witch" interfered...
Eeh... It'll be more accurate when the translation comes out... :sweatdrop:
Fo real? Interesting! But wait... Syao is an ancestor of Clow reed? That's odd. In CCS universe, it's the other way around isn't it?
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Fo real? Interesting! But wait... Syao is an ancestor of Clow reed? That's odd. In CCS universe, it's the other way around isn't it?
Oh! Wait a minute, my bad. That should have been "Clow Reed is Syaoran's ancestor". Yeah, it's the same as in CCS. Thanks for pointing that out. ^^;;; *goes to fix*
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Hmm.. I'll need to read over again because there was long confusing explanations, but let's see if I can give a summary:
Woo, Syaoran's past:
The "yin" Syaoran is the original Syaoran, and an ancestor of Clow Reed, and Fei Wong had captured him. He created a fake double of Syaoran, without a soul, that he could use to gather Sakura's feathers. But during the process the real Syaoran took a copy of his heart and put it into the fake one through his right eye. But even though the fake Syaoran now had a heart, and was more susceptible to injury, he still had the instinct to gather the feathers, so Fei Wong released him.. putting him in just the right time and place to set him up to meet Sakura. And he says his plan was perfect until "that witch" interfered...
Eeh... It'll be more accurate when the translation comes out... :sweatdrop:
O_O Holy crap! CLAMP certainly hits us hard. First they finally start throwing in Subaru, and now they throw in the explanation of the yin/yang Syaoran. I have to go to work in like an hour, so I won't get to read any translations until about eleven tonight either. T_T But yeah- why on earth didn't Fai-Mommy try to do something?
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heh, I was wondering about that.
... EWWW! SyaoranxSakura is incest in Tsubasa?! O_O
Unless Sakura isn't really Clow Reed's daughter. Let's just... assume that, shall we? ^^'
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heh, I was wondering about that.
... EWWW! SyaoranxSakura is incest in Tsubasa?! O_O
Unless Sakura isn't really Clow Reed's daughter. Let's just... assume that, shall we? ^^'
Guh! I was thinking the same thing. That's just kinda... wrong.
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. And he says his plan was perfect until "that witch" interfered...
He wouldn't gotten away with it if it hadn't been for those meddling kids!
...Sorry. XD I couldn't help myself.
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OH! I knew this was familiar! See, I predicted this! That Syaoran is a clone of 'evil' Syao. I posted that... http://www.capturedwings.net/forums/index.php?topic=2851.msg154997#msg154997 Â <--- there.
Okay, I compared it to a game, but still. See the connection?
He wouldn't gotten away with it if it hadn't been for those meddling kids!
...Sorry. XD I couldn't help myself.
"I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for those meddling kids and their 'Mokona'!
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Well, you know, it always was kinda incestuous in CCS, since Sakura was the daughter of half of Clow's reincarnation. ^^; But we don't know which Clow is meant and there must be a million and a half Clows running around, so I guess we should kinda try not to think about it too hard.
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Hmm... if this is all correct, then I wonder if it's really been Anti-Syaoran controling Syaoran all of those times. It could just be Syaoran's "other will" drowning out is heart and feelings, making him stronger. Didn't Ashura-o say something like that? Of course, that's excluding when he said "I've been waiting so long, Syaoran" to Kurogane.
Also, I wonder if Clow Reed recognized Syaoran when he was young. He did say that he's "been through something so bad that not even he knows how bad it was." Suspicious...
I wonder what Syaoran's real name is...?
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I'm not really surprised that clone!Syaoran is the REAL Syaoran...it was one way or the other and it could have been either. I suspect that the moral of the story will end up being that OUR!Syaoran will have made his own place and reason for living blah, blah, blah...along with Sakura learning to love him whether she remembers him or not...
OMG! What if clone!Syaoran is CCS!Syaoran...oh, scratch that...he was a child when he was captured, wasn't he? If he had been captured as a teenager (after CCSv12) and then TCchild!Syaoran was cloned from him and CCS!Syaoran tried to preserve his heart by putting it into TRCchild!Syaoran...that would have made for an interesting story...especially if TRC!Syaoran had to give the heart back to CCS!Syaoran for CCS!Syaoran to return to CCS!world.
Gah...too many Syaorans.
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ahh im so confused i need translation
im really upset that fai really didnt do anything
Fai! help syaoran!
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translation please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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By just reading the spoilers, I am confused!! o.o???
(goes to download as quick as possibloe)
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This chapter is so confusing...even with the summary.
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I'm not really surprised that clone!Syaoran is the REAL Syaoran...it was one way or the other and it could have been either. I suspect that the moral of the story will end up being that OUR!Syaoran will have made his own place and reason for living blah, blah, blah...along with Sakura learning to love him whether she remembers him or not...
OMG! What if clone!Syaoran is CCS!Syaoran...oh, scratch that...he was a child when he was captured, wasn't he? If he had been captured as a teenager (after CCSv12) and then TCchild!Syaoran was cloned from him and CCS!Syaoran tried to preserve his heart by putting it into TRCchild!Syaoran...that would have made for an interesting story...especially if TRC!Syaoran had to give the heart back to CCS!Syaoran for CCS!Syaoran to return to CCS!world.
Gah...too many Syaorans.
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First of all.... OMG I cannot believe what just happened..... the other!Syaoran is actually the real Syaoran? I seriously had to reread the chapter few times to make sure I understood it....(and I still am not clearn on 10% of it, lol )
the real!Syaoran (i'm gonna call the other Syaoran that now.. and "our" Syaoran as clone!Syaoran) could be Syaoran from CCS. All these events in Tsubasa could take place while CCS Syaoran is gone from Japan.....
You know, I was wondering...could the "meddling" of Yuuko be switching real!Syaoran and clone!Syaoran's places? The real!Syaoran "gave"(or rather reflected) his heart to clone!Syaoran. In doing so, what if the clone became "real" and the real became empty, feeling-less shell? (does that make sense? probably not...)
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Yay, thanks a lot for the summary Pikari-san!!
And now...
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Whoa!! I want moooore!! @_@ Kamui and his arm OMG he's soooo cool XD lol.
The fact that Fai did nothing was perfectly normal, I suppose... He's trying to figure out what the hell is going on there, that's usually what Fai does... I think, maybe not, nehe ^_^U.
And Syaoran's past... Finally we got some freaking answers!! *bows* thanks, clamp! But there are still lots of blanks to fill u.u' ~still knowing this is a lot more from where we started XD..
All those CCS theories are interesting but I don't think that's the case...
Geez, this arc isn't near its end yet :P, and I'm still curious to know if there was gonna be any arc where they would meet another Syaoran or Sakura (or both :D) before the end of the manga... Well who knows? Where this manga may take only a few more volumes it could take 10 or 15 more T_T'''.
But we did get answers this time :D!!
I suppose I'll wait for the traslation before making more comments about this chapter ^o^
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"wake up...the important person for you...if it comes back..."---sakura:"the most important person...syaoran-kun"
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]The fact that Fai did nothing was perfectly normal, I suppose... He's trying to figure out what the hell is going on there, that's usually what Fai does... I think, maybe not, nehe ^_^U.
your right. Fai is more tactical, like kuro is "look before you leap" (another way their opositeness makes them a perfect couple ^_^) [speaking of whome, WHERE THE HELL IS KUROCHAN??? why did they omit him AGAIN?
anywho.
wild chapter. WILD info on the syaorans
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little more about syao's past...little syao looks soo cute @_@..back on topic..that sign remind of me of something....was it in CCS?
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"wake up...the important person for you...if it comes back..."---sakura:"the most important person...syaoran-kun"
EP! She remembers!!!!
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In other news, I KNEW IT! I knew Kamui was going to be fine, jajajaja XD, now, this explination of Syaoran needs Traslation now, My japanese is not very good, I do not undertand enough :cry:
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little more about syao's past...little syao looks soo cute @_@..back on topic..that sign remind of me of something....was it in CCS?
Yes it was, it the symbol of Lee Family, he use it to search for the cards and his mother to help Sakura in the movie.
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EP! She remembers!!!!
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In other news, I KNEW IT! I knew Kamui was going to be fine, jajajaja XD, now, this explination of Syaoran needs Traslation now, My japanese is not very good, I do not undertand enough :cry:
she doesn't remember because she doesn't about little syaoran
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"wake up...the important person for you...if it comes back..."---sakura:"the most important person...syaoran-kun"
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Squee! Foreshadow! Perhaps Sakura will be the one to snap Syaoran back to normal.
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Squee! Foreshadow! Perhaps Sakura will be the one to snap Syaoran back to normal.
I think that too.
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dark syao is the real syao!!! our good hero is a clone!!!
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Awww, look at that adorable splash! <3
*5 minutes later*
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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*cough*
AAAAAHHH!
Kay, I'm good. ^_^
Errr.... One is sealed, the other isn't.... That's the whole 'your freedom and time' was your price part... I missed a lot of this. I should really go read the translations, and calm down for a minute, as that bit of Yin and Yang action has me gaping at the screen in confusion and awe...
Edit: Whoooo... Okay. A bit more is understood now. Apparently Moezy-chan's Yin and Yang theory just died. ^_^;;
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So those markings on Syaoran's arms are a spell, huh?
Hmm, and I think I understand what Seishiro meant when he asked Oruah-san about eternal life...that was some sweet re-arm-attachin' on Kamui's behalf!
...Where is Kuro??!!
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Hush Kuro and Fai fangirls, this is Syaoran-kun's chapter, please just accept it without complaint. *gonna get flamed*
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How many decendants does clow have!?
We have TRC!Sakura-1st generation, CCS!Syaoran - several hundred years, Dark!Syao - ???, He was taken too young to be the CCS one, AU!CCS?
Ok for me Dark!Syaoran (just out of habit) is the one in the tank, the other one will be Our!Syaoran.
So Dark!Syao is the original and our's is the clone! FWR was not happy Dark gave him an eye (heart thing). And everyone says Tsubasa (or feather? not sure w/ the Kanji) A LOT! Everyone seems to say it.
Look at Subaru being all nice to Sakura ^^.. And now Sakura knows her most important person, took her til the end of CCS to do that last time.
Yuuko in TRC and Yuuko in holic are different. In TRC its night, shes wearing a Yukata, Black Mokona's ear ring is glowing. Not sure what that's all about, black Mokona was for Watanuki. In holic it's daytime, stinking hot and Yuuko is wearing a tiny bathing suit. Watanuki is delivering something again ha ha.
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I have this strange thought that somehow the two Syaorans will merge as one... but I wonder whether Syaoran's personality will change.
Yeah, definitely the biggest blow of all! And to think, Sakura managed to change the "empty" Syaoran, and in the end he wasn't searching the feathers on instinct, but also because he loved Sakura. *insert S+S squeal*
A-hem. I can only hope the Syaoran we know would not change too much after this... I also wonder whether the real Syaoran's personality is somewhat alike to the Syaoran we know. @_@
Too much questions.... dizzy!
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Now I understand why real!Syaoran's "price" was to get help from Yuuko...
Do you think real!Syaoran and clone!Syaoran would "merge" into one again in the end? I mean originally, it was just one Syaoran...
am I just slow or am I wrong.... I was just thinking... the "seal" on the right eye of clone!Syaoran... Yuuko said it was breaking, right? As it is breaking, clone!Syaoran is becoming more and more.... emotionless and violent. So the seal on the right eye (put on to the clone!Syaoran by real!Syaoran) breaking means clone!Syaoran is losing the "heart"(humanity...emotions and such) real!Syaoran put into him when he was created, so clone!Syaoran is turning to what he was initially.... an emotionless clone created simply to gather Sakura's feathers.
Now I don't know which Syao to support! What is gonna happen to Syao x Sakura relationship? I mean you can't tell Sakura "oh, by the way, the Syaoran you've been hanging out with for he past however many amount of time is just a clone and the real Syaoran was sealed in a spell by the bad guy"
what are they gonna say next? that Fei Wong Reed isn't the bad guy and it's actually Clow Reed or something?
CLAMP is messing up my mind :BangHead:
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"reads through all of the spoilers"
NOW I'm getting confused. I've always thought the final battle for Sakura's feathers is between the two Syaorans, but now...
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wait , which one's the REAL syao and which's one the clone?
they all look alike
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wait , which one's the REAL syao and which's one the clone?
they all look alike
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"dark" syao is aparently the real one and OUR syao is the clone
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"dark" syao is aparently the real one and OUR syao is the clone
no way...@_@ is it me or did everyone knew this?
Edit: sorry, i just review the post by pikari on the first page
NOW i get it
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no way...@_@ is it me or did everyone knew this?
Edit: sorry, i just review the post by pikari on the first page
NOW i get it
it IS a bit confusing. and real wierd actualy.
is there a translation yet? :(
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Looks interesting!
Too bad I can't understand.
Clamp sure amazes me!
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Oh my god..
it is quite confusing now
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this is the chapter i've been waiting for!! the thing about the 2 syaorans!! i'll wait until the translation/scanlation is out!!
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You mean... all the while we have been looking at what's going on to the "fake" Syaoran? ._. And you mean... the real Syaoran's this cold-hearted from the beginning? Or is it because of possible "side-effects"of "splitting" part of his soul to the fake Syaoran? Eh... Am I confusing anyone? @_@
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Maybe it would explain why our TRC Syaoran is so much more.......hmmmm..... Meeker, than his CCS counterpart. Perhaps he SPLIT his soul, and one Syao is Ying, and the other is Yang. CLAMP seems to love doing things like that (Seoul and Larg, Kamui and Fuuma, Kero and Yui) Just a thought though
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Namely the clone thing.
Now, my guess is that Clone Syao and Real Syao will merge near the end, meaning that Syaoran will get to keep his memories of Sakura and Clow world and the journey and stuff, but he also gets a complete soul.
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Hush Kuro and Fai fangirls, this is Syaoran-kun's chapter, please just accept it without complaint. *gonna get flamed*
Okay, I'm not going to flame you, because that would be lame, but I will say that I think this is uncalled for. There were maybe five comments asking about why Fai didn't get involved, and not all of them from the big KuroFai fans. Plus, I think it's a perfectly valid question to ask why Fai didn't try to do anything. He was right there. Yes, this is Syaoran's chapitre, and I have no problem with that. It's an awesome chapitre, it really is, and everyone here knows I'm not a big Syaoran fan. I don't know, perhaps some other fans were complaining about it somwhere else more than they were here and it got under your skin. But this is the second time I've seen you say something like this on the board, and it bothers me. Anywho.
A nice lady on livejournal has done a VERY tentative translation, so if anyone wants it while we are waiting for Pikari's translation, here it is. (http://wetheril.livejournal.com/196963.html)
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Thank-you Jeannette
Now, I understand it much more now...
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I hope Fei Wong Reed is wrong about our syaoran :cry: He has to be stronger then the yin syaoran, he has to be
*Our syaoran is still the syaoran, and the other syaoran, I will still call him yin-syaoran.
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Okay theory here.....I think Iam starting to understand... lol.. at least.. I think X__X
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This chapter shows the flashback when the original Syaoran(dark Syaoran) has a clone created of him (normal Syaoran) who he then gives one of his eyes too, which, seems to give him life... right?
Wang Reed then appears to seal Dark Syaoran away and send Syaoran to Clow country, purhaps on perpose, to get him to meet Sakura. If he knew Sakura would eventually have the power he wants, it makes sense that he would need Syaoran there to help her collect the feathers and obtain the power.
Dark Syaoran therefore must have been his method of being able to control Syaoran incase he couldn't accomplish that... His back-up almost.
Dark Syaoran appears to be stronger, mainly because he appears to be quite violent... o__O
However, dark syaoran broke free of the seal around him, and therefore seems to be acting of his own accord... or is he?
The Syaoran that we like to think is the real Syaoran technically isn't. He is just a clone of Dark Syaoran. does that mean Syaoran is really evil? unkind? or is it just when he gave his right eye to his clone, his soul split into a good half and a bad half?
Oh how can the real Syaoran be so scary ;___;
not just stubborn like CCS Syaoran but full on SCARY! ^^;;
sorry if I repeated something, I just wanted to get it clear in my own head X___X
CLAMP.messing.with.my.brain
don't quote me, I could be so so wrong... ^^;
a translation would be great >__>
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@Xiao_Lang : Actually, most of your questions are answered by Pikari on the first page
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Obviously, I have no clue what's going on...but...did he switch the Syaoran's round?! (I haven't been downloading it recently due to exams of whoa, but...yeah.
...Tsubasa really seems to be a nearing an end, or is that just me? I mean, I see this chapter and I think 'It must be drawing to the end, slowly, but surely,' then I remember it apparently has more volumes, and that we know nothing of Fai yet and...yeah.
Haha, I don't know what I'm saying XD
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TRC Manga is going to be longer then X/1999, which is at Manga 19, as said by CLAMP, so good guess it will hopefully be manga 25, I'm wishing for more, but wow, this chapter.......Will we be hitten CCS World in the near future I wonder?
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Okay, I'm not going to flame you, because that would be lame, but I will say that I think this is uncalled for. There were maybe five comments asking about why Fai didn't get involved, and not all of them from the big KuroFai fans. Plus, I think it's a perfectly valid question to ask why Fai didn't try to do anything. He was right there. Yes, this is Syaoran's chapitre, and I have no problem with that. It's an awesome chapitre, it really is, and everyone here knows I'm not a big Syaoran fan. I don't know, perhaps some other fans were complaining about it somwhere else more than they were here and it got under your skin. But this is the second time I've seen you say something like this on the board, and it bothers me. Anywho.
A nice lady on livejournal has done a VERY tentative translation, so if anyone wants it while we are waiting for Pikari's translation, here it is. (http://wetheril.livejournal.com/196963.html)
I don't see why there should be a problem that anyone is mentioning Fai either, cos, you know, he was actually IN the chapter...
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@Xiao_Lang : Actually, most of your questions are answered by Pikari on the first page
hehe... thanks... My mind was so scrambled I didn't even notice *head desk*
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Translated. (http://makenai.org/tsubasa/chap119eng.txt) ^^
I wonder now, and I think someone mentioned it already... that perhaps "dark Syaoran taking over Syaoran's body" isn't that at all, but his "clone instincts" or whatever trying to take over. And that magic in his right eye that the real Syaoran gave him is a seal that was holding it back, only now it's starting to break? Who knows, everything doesn't quite add up yet.....
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Thanks for the translations, but there are few things that might need to be fixed..
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This is minor but Yuuko says that the the seal on the right eye is "breaking"... as it is in process of being broken, rather than already broken completely. Same with FWR, he says the right eye's power is "disappearing".
skip to the part where FWR is explaining the clones....
pg 18 should be like this:
FWR: I tried to take out the right eye,
FWR: But as expected from one of Clow's bloodline,
FWR: If I try to take out the eye by stuffing it with magic,
FWR: The clone will break as well (along with the eye)
FWR: A clone that has same strength as the original
FWR: Is not something that can be created many times
FWR: Besides
FWR: Even if another's heart resides in him,
FWR: If the goal of gathering feathers is not changed, it did not matter.
FWR: That's why I released him that way
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FWR: Reading the time
FWR: reading the place
FWR: The clone goes to Clow Country (the rest of that bubble is very good... much better than what I would have come up with)
FWR: Everything was going just as planned
pg 18 is the only one with somewhat major change... the rest are just minor stuff that can be ignored :P
Awesome job on translation ^_^ I was working on one too and yours was worded so much better than mine....
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good job mina-chan! I understand that better ^_ ^U
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Thank you Pikari-san, Mina-san for the translations :)
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demo, things said by FWR are confusing.
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what does mean bloodline? a descendent?
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demo, things said by FWR are confusing.
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what does mean bloodline? a descendent?
Yup, if you are of the same bloodline as someone, it means you are related.
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Yup, if you are of the same bloodline as someone, it means you are related.
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....he could be a cousin of Sakura!!! no,no,no!! It can't be true!! Clamp is killing me !
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Thanks for the translation!
Oh my God. This is such a good chapter!
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....he could be a cousin of Sakura!!! no,no,no!! It can't be true!! Clamp is killing me !
Well, in CCS they were both descendants of Clow Reed as well.
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Well, in CCS they were both descendants of Clow Reed as well.
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in CCS Sakura had the magic of Clow, no bloodline like syaoran...I don't like incest, so I think Clamp should have a reason which clear this question.
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thanks for the translations. now im even more confused by the clone deal T_T
gah. CLAMP is so evil
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O__o Okay. I need some sleep. Tomorrow I'll re-read the entire thing. Too shocked to talk >__<
Thank you SO much for the translation, Pikari ^^ However, could you please translate the catch phrase at the end? I know they're not usually very important, but I'd like to know what it says, and those are always too difficult for my poor level of japanese ^^u
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"さらされた陰謀と真実今そこに庄つた // 写身という名の紛い物は終焉を迎えるのか・・・" I understand something along the lines of "the conspiracy and the truth have been revealed", and then just some words here and there with the help of a dictionary... ushitsumi was a pain -_-u
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Thanks Pikari-san and Mina-san.
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I'm even more freaked than I was before! The right eye's magic is breaking? Does that mean eventually Syaoran will never be able to go back to normal again? And now I'm even more sure that it was Syaoran's "other will" that was taking him over all those other times. And Sakura's gotta get into action before "her precious person never returns."
I wonder what the real Syaoran plans to do with our Syaoran? Does he want to kill him, or co-exist with him?
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You know, I was wondering.... what if the real!Syaoran existe through the clone!Syaoran? real!Syaoran gave his heart to clone!Syaoran through the seal on the right eye. What if that meant all the things clone!Syaoran experienced, remembered, etc are actually all in real!Syaoran's mind? Like it's the clone!Syaoran's body, but real!Syaoran "inside". The real!Syaoran looks cold and evil-ish because he gave his heart (or "transfered") to the clone!Syaoran, leaving him heartless. But as the seal is breaking, real!Syaoran's body is slowly regaining back its heart and wants to get back all of it now that he is free. (and maybe he broke through the spell keeping him captive because the seal of right eye was breaking... giving him more strength as he regains his heart)
just a wild theory
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Thanks for the translations, but there are few things that might need to be fixed..
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This is minor but Yuuko says that the the seal on the right eye is "breaking"... as it is in process of being broken, rather than already broken completely. Same with FWR, he says the right eye's power is "disappearing".
skip to the part where FWR is explaining the clones....
pg 18 should be like this:
FWR: I tried to take out the right eye,
FWR: But as expected from one of Clow's bloodline,
FWR: If I try to take out the eye by stuffing it with magic,
FWR: The clone will break as well (along with the eye)
FWR: A clone that has same strength as the original
FWR: Is not something that can be created many times
FWR: Besides
FWR: Even if another's heart resides in him,
FWR: If the goal of gathering feathers is not changed, it did not matter.
FWR: That's why I released him that way
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FWR: Reading the time
FWR: reading the place
FWR: The clone goes to Clow Country (the rest of that bubble is very good... much better than what I would have come up with)
FWR: Everything was going just as planned
pg 18 is the only one with somewhat major change... the rest are just minor stuff that can be ignored :P
Awesome job on translation ^_^ I was working on one too and yours was worded so much better than mine....
Thanks for the suggestions. I plan to go back over it when I get my computer with my dictionary back.. I was kind of winging it from memory in the computer lab with the second half. And I'm not quite sure where I read that other "tsukuru" kanji wrong. *kicks CLAMP for not using easy kanji* XD
Lulu: I'll get it translated eventually. Like I said, I didn't have my dictionary at the end, and those phrases *are* always a pain. I don't think it said much important though. o_O And 'utsushimi' is clone... or literally, something along the lines of 'imitation/copied body/person'... but clone is easier.. o_O
Hmm.. and your theory is something toward what I was thinking, Mina, although I hadn't thought about Syaoran actually sharing their memories and the consequences of that. I still wonder how much of his own heart the original Syaoran still has since it seems to imply he only copied/reflected it? Not completely gave it away.. and he still had the sense to break out and go to Yuuko to find his other self. And after all he went through, I'd say he has a right to be cold. o_O; Hmm.. but might be interesting to see when the two of them meet. I wonder if clone Syaoran will be able to revert back to his nice-guy self now.
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Thankyou!
So every time we saw Syao-kun with his right eye blanked out was as he normaly is! Dark!Syao (need a new name now) wasnt controling him that time like everyone thought, its the opposite!, thats when is heart didnt have control.
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Thanks for the suggestions. I plan to go back over it when I get my computer with my dictionary back.. I was kind of winging it from memory in the computer lab with the second half. And I'm not quite sure where I read that other "tsukuru" kanji wrong. *kicks CLAMP for not using easy kanji* XD
Lulu: I'll get it translated eventually. Like I said, I didn't have my dictionary at the end, and those phrases *are* always a pain. I don't think it said much important though. o_O And 'utsushimi' is clone... or literally, something along the lines of 'imitation body/person'... but clone is easier.. o_O
Hmm.. and your theory is something toward what I was thinking, Mina, although I hadn't thought about Syaoran actually sharing their memories and the consequences of that. I still wonder how much of his own heart the original Syaoran still has since it seems to imply he only copied/reflected it? Not completely gave it away.. and he still had the sense to break out and go to Yuuko to find his other self. And after all he went through, I'd say he has a right to be cold. o_O; Hmm.. but might be interesting to see when the two of them meet. I wonder if clone Syaoran will be able to revert back to his nice-guy self now.
Yeah, I had to use dictionary for some words to make sure I understood it right.... good thing CLAMP put furigana for Tsubasa though... otherwise... o.O (xxxHolic is kinda hard for me to read becuase of lack of furigana... gah)
You are right, he does have the right to be cold....
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When FWR starts talking about the "cloning" and you see the real!Syaoran struggling against the spell binding him, I felt so bad for him.... poor Syao :(
Because of this chapter, I can't look at "our" Syao without thinking that he's actually a clone.... CLAMP, we need more explanations!!
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Our syaoran a clone. That is just wrong. It breaks the rules. Our syaoran should be the real one, while the other one is the clone. I don't even like seeing the word clone.
Syaoran, you will always be the real syaoran to me. If if FWR made you for the purpose, you will always will the real one......
ok. I'm back to normal ^__^
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Our syaoran a clone. That is just wrong. It breaks the rules. Our syaoran should be the real one, while the other one is the clone. I don't even like seeing the word clone.
Syaoran, you will always be the real syaoran to me. If if FWR made you for the purpose, you will always will the real one......
ok. I'm back to normal ^__^
But it's a completely CLAMPish idea, though. Like Chobits, or Clover, CLAMP likes to show that people can be human/have souls/be loved regardless of what they are/how they were created/etc...
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But it's a completely CLAMPish idea, though. Like Chobits, or Clover, CLAMP likes to show that people can be human/have souls/be loved regardless of what they are/how they were created/etc...
yeah, that is true. CLAMP makes their own rules. And ya, i find CLAMP can show more emotions, and human nature then any other manga.
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the syaoran we knew all along was a CLONE?!
hehe, at least the mystery the solved now
now the one who we used to call "dark" or "yin" is now the REAL syaoran
and our syao is now the clone
argh, the whole thing's flipped now
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the syaoran we knew all along was a CLONE?!
hehe, at least the mystery the solved now
now the one who we used to call "dark" or "yin" is now the REAL syaoran
and our syao is now the clone
argh, the whole thing's flipped now
It may be flip, but Syaoran, is still Syaoran.
I wonder what syaoran is going to think now.....that he is a clone.
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That's a complete twist in our theories! Damn you CLAMP! XD That's just so like you to mislead us! >_>; Ah well. That was exciting! I can't believe our Syaoran is a total fake though. o.O; Whoa. That's just weird. Heh. He's always gonna be Syaoran though no matter if he's a clone or not. =)
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I agree with Pikari :O The Syaoran we know and love is indeed the real Syaoran. Just inside a clone body. When the seal weakens or he loses consciousness, the clone's consciousness comes forward in the form of Dark!Syaoran, who is cold, uncaring and determined to get the feathers no matter what.
Both of them have the strong need to retrieve the feathers...D!S because he's programmed to and real Syaoran because he loves Sakura. D!S is just willing to be more...brutal about it.
P.S. - Scanslation coming soon!
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I don't even like seeing the word clone.
Works better than doppleganger O.o maybe twin? Identical twins are technicaly clones.
But we need new names for them.
Our!Syaoran and PoorlittleguywhoFWRcagesupandcloned!Syaoran maybe?
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Our!Syaoran and PoorlittleguywhoFWRcagesupandcloned!Syaoran maybe?
ahh, I like that name better ^__^
I'll use yin-syaoran
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http://rapidshare.de/files/23178161/trc-119.zip.html
Scanslated ^^
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All of this just means that in fact we have seen the normal Syaoran's personality, since his heart was a copy of the Original Syaoran, but now the sides are oposite?, Original!Syoran is the good one and since the seal was broken Clon!Syaoran is evil?... o.o
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http://rapidshare.de/files/23178161/trc-119.zip.html
Scanslated ^^
Let me give you my love *gives her love to you* thanks! ^^
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Pikari and Mina, thanks for posting up your versions of the translations. I'm the one who did the preliminary translations, but you guys did a much better job and it makes everything so much more clear. I can't wait to see the results of the scanlations. :)
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http://rapidshare.de/files/23178161/trc-119.zip.html
Scanslated ^^
Wow...that is fast! Thank you! I had not realized until I just posted that the scanlation came out. :)
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Arigatou Celesse-san. As for my reaction *moezy faints* @_@
Ok, better, but that was such an unexpected twist! @_@ I just can't believe it!! Our kawaii lovable Syaoran is a clone!! And the real Syaoran was Yin! So much for your theory Suu-chan that Yin wanted Sakura dead. Guess we were both wrong. :sweatdrop: Still, I do believe that Yin and Yang will become one. Although, I just realized something! If Yin Syaoran is the real Syaoran, then maybe he and Sakura will fall in love, and her old memories won't matter because she'll love the real Syaoran!....or not :sweatdrop: Guess we'll find out soon enough.
Oh and Suu-chan, I can honestly say, after reading this chapter, my feelings for Tsubasa have switched. I'm starting to like it now. ^_^
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Arigatou Celesse-san. As for my reaction *moezy faints* @_@
Ok, better, but that was such an unexpected twist! @_@ I just can't believe it!! Our kawaii lovable Syaoran is a clone!! And the real Syaoran was Yin! So much for your theory Suu-chan that Yin wanted Sakura dead. Guess we were both wrong. :sweatdrop: Still, I do believe that Yin and Yang will become one. Although, I just realized something! If Yin Syaoran is the real Syaoran, then maybe he and Sakura will fall in love, and her old memories won't matter because she'll love the real Syaoran!....or not :sweatdrop: Guess we'll find out soon enough.
Oh and Suu-chan, I can honestly say, after reading this chapter, my feelings for Tsubasa have switched. I'm starting to like it now. ^_^
No she has to love clone syaoran because thats whose been with her this whole time and he has a soul and heart and whenever he went freaky it wasn't that he was being controlled it was because the heart that the real syaoran gave him weakened. But he still cares for Sakura and is collecting the feathers because he loves her. But I'm still thinking that we have yet to see the real syaoran so maybe when they meet they will join so that it will still be the clone and their memories together but they will have a complete soul thing. Or maybe the real one will die for them to live happily ever after....but who knows...
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i thik i read in the previous chapter thread that there isnt going to be a chapter next week??? i hate waiting T_T
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I think this chapter was so sad...Our!Syaoran was just being USED. T__T
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i thik i read in the previous chapter thread that there isnt going to be a chapter next week??? i hate waiting T_T
There is one next week, but there isn't one the week after that. But after that one week break so far we know there are definitely two more chapters scheduled.
Here's the schedule, from chibiyuuto-san on LJ:
06/14 - Shonen Magazine #28 - Chapter 119 (on sale).
06/21 - Shonen Magazine #29 - Chapter 120.
06/28 - Shonen Magazine #30 - No Tsubasa scheduled.
07/05 - Shonen Magazine #31 - Chapter 121.
07/12 - Shonen Magazine #32 - Chapter 122.
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There is one next week, but there isn't one the week after that. But after that one week break so far we know there are definitely two more chapters scheduled.
Here's the schedule, from chibiyuuto-san on LJ:
06/14 - Shonen Magazine #28 - Chapter 119 (on sale).
06/21 - Shonen Magazine #29 - Chapter 120.
06/28 - Shonen Magazine #30 - No Tsubasa scheduled.
07/05 - Shonen Magazine #31 - Chapter 121.
07/12 - Shonen Magazine #32 - Chapter 122.
thats good. thanks.
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Thanks Celesse-san
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I wonder now, and I think someone mentioned it already... that perhaps "dark Syaoran taking over Syaoran's body" isn't that at all, but his "clone instincts" or whatever trying to take over. And that magic in his right eye that the real Syaoran gave him is a seal that was holding it back, only now it's starting to break? Who knows, everything doesn't quite add up yet.....
O___O I absolutely LOVE this theory. I think it's great, very probable, and it explains things a lot better. ôO I'll be looking at all those "dark Syaoran taking over Syaoran's body" moments differently now. :) Thank you for sharing your thoughts :p
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i love this chapter!! thanks to Pikari, Celesse and Mina for the scanlations and translations!!
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So our Syaoran is the clone and if the seal on the right eye is removed our Syaoran will disappear right?? And the memories of our Syaoran with Sakura would disappear as well...no way..poor Syaoran!!
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*gives Celesse a cookie*
Thank yooou!
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No she has to love clone syaoran because thats whose been with her this whole time and he has a soul and heart and whenever he went freaky it wasn't that he was being controlled it was because the heart that the real syaoran gave him weakened. But he still cares for Sakura and is collecting the feathers because he loves her. But I'm still thinking that we have yet to see the real syaoran so maybe when they meet they will join so that it will still be the clone and their memories together but they will have a complete soul thing. Or maybe the real one will die for them to live happily ever after....but who knows...
But if the seal is breaking, then clone Syaoran, our Syaoran, won't exist, and Sakura has to love somebody! And besides, Clone Syaoran doesn't have his own heart. It's merely shared by the real Syaoran. How do we know he won't try to take over the real Syaoran and regain his memories? It's just too confusing for me. I'll have to wait until next week I suppose and then we'll find out what happens.
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But if the seal is breaking, then clone Syaoran, our Syaoran, won't exist, and Sakura has to love somebody! And besides, Clone Syaoran doesn't have his own heart. It's merely shared by the real Syaoran. How do we know he won't try to take over the real Syaoran and regain his memories? It's just too confusing for me. I'll have to wait until next week I suppose and then we'll find out what happens.
:cry: I hope Syaoran can have his own heart. He earns it! By the looks of Yin Syaoran, I don't think he is too happy about having a clone, and having your heart taking. I mean, would you guys too? I just hope that something happens, like our syaoran was able to beat yin syaoran, and take the rest of the heart, and the eye.......but I think clamp has something else up their sleaves. I think our syaoran is going to bring sakura to FWR, after the feathers have been collected. I think they need syaoran for some thing else.....
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:cry: I hope Syaoran can have his own heart. He earns it! By the looks of Yin Syaoran, I don't think he is too happy about having a clone, and having your heart taking. I mean, would you guys too? I just hope that something happens, like our syaoran was able to beat yin syaoran, and take the rest of the heart, and the eye.......but I think clamp has something else up their sleaves. I think our syaoran is going to bring sakura to FWR, after the feathers have been collected. I think they need syaoran for some thing else.....
I don't know whether the other Syaoran is angry at our Syaoran, after all the other Syaoran DID purposely gave his heart to our Syaoran. So I don't think that's it... he may just be after his right eye out of instinct. Why he looks so scary and all... I'm sure CLAMP will explain soon. >_<
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i love this chapter!! thanks to Pikari, Celesse and Mina for the scanlations and translations!!
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So our Syaoran is the clone and if the seal on the right eye is removed our Syaoran will disappear right?? And the memories of our Syaoran with Sakura would disappear as well...no way..poor Syaoran!!
syaoran's memories shoudln't dissapear. Dark Syaoran's heart was given to our syao. dark syao is searching his own heart or soul, but he didn't meet Sakura before. Besides, in future, syaoran's heart and Dark Syaoran's body and magic? will be togehter.
excuse, I'm tired about put spoilers.
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You're welcomes! And thanks for the cookies! ^o^
Hey guys, don't forget the story isn't finished :O We don't know everything. FWR said at the end of the chapter that everything was set up to go according to plan, "Until that witch interefered." So Yuuko did something to the clone or to his part in the plan...and we'll find out what next week XD
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kuro's past.............checked
shaoran's past......checked
next would be fai's past :rotfl:
i was wondering, wasn't fwr also decendents of clow reed (check past chapter) then does that make shaoran and fwr relatives
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As I was looking at the page with Yuuko and black Mokona, I noticed something... black Mokona's earing is "glowing". Do you think there might be significance to black Mokona's earing? Possibly with how Yuuko interferred with FWR's plan?
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nice dhapter ^^
thanks for the scanlation and the translation
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As I was looking at the page with Yuuko and black Mokona, I noticed something... black Mokona's earing is "glowing". Do you think there might be significance to black Mokona's earing? Possibly with how Yuuko interferred with FWR's plan?
I noticed that as well! Hopefully there'll be more explanations in the next chapter.
Anyone still think this is CCS Syaoran that's after his right eye? Cause in truth, I don't really think so. There's still the age problem and all... plus, CLAMP did mention that this is a different Syaoran we're talking about. So the way I see it, this Syaoran is meant to be in the Tsubasa world, and he's not the one from CCS. >_<
Just a theory...
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I noticed that as well! Hopefully there'll be more explanations in the next chapter.
Anyone still think this is CCS Syaoran that's after his right eye? Cause in truth, I don't really think so. There's still the age problem and all... plus, CLAMP did mention that this is a different Syaoran we're talking about. So the way I see it, this Syaoran is meant to be in the Tsubasa world, and he's not the one from CCS. >_<
Just a theory...
yeah, I'm starting to think less and less of possibity of real!Syaoran being the CCS Syaoran... it just messes up things more (things are already messed up with the whole our Syaoran being clone... i still can't believe it...)
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This can't be CCS!Syaoran. In Volume 2 of xxxHOLiC, when TRC!Syaoran and Sakura show up at Yuuko's shop, Yuuko tells Watanuki, her shop boy, that there is a Syaoran and Sakura living in Yuuko's world, and those two are certainly CCS!Syaoran and Sakura. TRC!Syaoran is either from (a)Clow or (b)FWR's world, and there is the possibility that FWR is actually from Clow, you know.
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I hate being pulled from civilization. (AKA the internet). I come back and missed THIS AWESOME CHAPTER?
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Oh god. It's finally been revealed and I have to say I expected nothing less from CLAMP. Awesome pics of the cloning process (I have to admit I saved them and will probably mess around with them a lot). So, if they do merge in the end, will it still be the Syaoran-kun we've come to know?
Will Sakura ever find out what's happened, and what the heck, is this thing coming to an end? I mean, how much longer can it go now that everything's been revealed about Syaoran? Sure, we have Fai to uncover, and more feathers, but...
Everything from now on will seem almost downhill, really. At least to me. This has to be the most action packed world they've gone to. I'm wonder, with all the blood and violence, how they're going to put it in the anime?
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As I was looking at the page with Yuuko and black Mokona, I noticed something... black Mokona's earing is "glowing". Do you think there might be significance to black Mokona's earing? Possibly with how Yuuko interferred with FWR's plan?
i beleve i read on a site that black mokona's reaign is a seal, while white mokonas is a power bootsrer? i think that thats how yuuko knows that "the right eyes seal is breaking" Black mokona's earing is reacting to it...
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I notised the earring glowign too, I thought it was a bit weird cos the Black Mokona always seemed to be there for Watanuki, the White one was more connected to Syaoran.
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Wow . . .
And I thought I was confused before this chapter!
GEEZ! So . . .our precious Syaoran is nothing but a CLONE!?
Hmm...Well, I'm actually thinking that it's CCS Syaoran...because they did mention about him being the decendent of Clow . . .and that's who CCS Syaoran is. And when they show in the eye of the "Real" Syaoran:
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/endoh_miharu/Other/untitled.jpg)
Is that not the board CCS Syaoran uses when locating cards? Looks like it to me.
Blah, throw rotten fruit at me if I'm wrong...it's late and I'm in shock over this, haha. As we all are, I'm sure.
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Wow . . .
And I thought I was confused before this chapter!
GEEZ! So . . .our precious Syaoran is nothing but a CLONE!?
Hmm...Well, I'm actually thinking that it's CCS Syaoran...because they did mention about him being the decendent of Clow . . .and that's who CCS Syaoran is. And when they show in the eye of the "Real" Syaoran:
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/endoh_miharu/Other/untitled.jpg)
Is that not the board CCS Syaoran uses when locating cards? Looks like it to me.
Blah, throw rotten fruit at me if I'm wrong...it's late and I'm in shock over this, haha. As we all are, I'm sure.
your right aboutthe lasin board and CCS syao, but the seal is in the clone(OUR) syao's eye, not the real one. the real one has a normal right eye
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I think we're all jumping to conclusions a little too fast by saying that the real Syaoran is the one from CCS just because we see his board in the right eye and he's Clow's descendant. :sweatdrop: I'm not saying he totally can't be (because when I say it just doesn't fit in the CCS timeline some people tell me that in TRC everything is possible because some characters can totally mess up time and space :p) but what if Clamp just decided to use the design of the board because it was associated with Syaoran in CCS, and they just wanted to re-use it as a design for the seal? Likewise, I'm not convinced that the whole "Real!Syaoran is a descendant of Clow" means that he's CCS Syaoran...
Well, I don't know :p But they sure know how to make the fandom crazy with theories with only one chapter :inlove:
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I doubt it's Syaoran from CCS. He's way too young.
Unless this is all Pre-CCS, and the gang loses their memories and get sent to Yuuko's dimension. ... No wait, they already exist in Yuuko's dimension.
Hmm... Well, I dunno.
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I hope there would be a CCS xover though, and CCS Sakura would use the Clow/Sakura cards!! hehehe...
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I doubt it's Syaoran from CCS. He's way too young.
Well, that's just it, unless there's been some major messing around with time and space it just does not work. If Clone!Syaoran is around 15 it means the real Syaoran was captured when he was 8 years old (since Sakura says her Syaoran has been in Clow for 7 years). So he's been sealed in that giant bottle for about 7 years, and now he looks all grown up, and I don't think he's aver been out of the thing. :sweatdrop: CCS!Syaoran is 10...so it does not work.
But as some people have said, there is always the possibility of Yuuko (of someone else) changing time and all that, so I still don't know what to think of this. Which is a good thing. :D
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Well, that's just it, unless there's been some major messing around with time and space it just does not work. If Clone!Syaoran is around 15 it means the real Syaoran was captured when he was 8 years old (since Sakura says her Syaoran has been in Clow for 7 years). So he's been sealed in that giant bottle for about 7 years, and now he looks all grown up, and I don't think he's aver been out of the thing. :sweatdrop: CCS!Syaoran is 10...so it does not work.
But as some people have said, there is always the possibility of Yuuko (of someone else) changing time and all that, so I still don't know what to think of this. Which is a good thing. :D
I remember that Yuuko said that Sakura and Syaoran in her world was a couple, so they grow up and maybe, that couple has the same age that S&S in TRC.
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The way I'm looking at it, this Syaoran in Tsubasa belongs to the Tsubasa world. He's still related to Clow, just that he's from a different dimension.
Someone on Chibiyuuto's LJ thought that it might be CCS Syaoran... after all in the manga of CCS, Syaoran said he had to leave to settle something in the last manga, remember? And he said no matter what, he must go back. So it's likely it could be this he's handling... Though I like that theory, I don't think it's likely because of the age, plus I just know this is a different Syaoran in Tsubasa, not CCS.
Ah well... it's nice to speculate. ^^
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I still can't be it though my head, what syaoran is a clone. I was sitting in my room, and I thought i should read the first book of TRC. I look at him, and how sakura was going to say I love you, I couldn't read read anymore. I look at syaoran. I kept thinking of syaoran as a clone, and this was all program into him, to save sakura :cry:
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I still can't be it though my head, what syaoran is a clone. I was sitting in my room, and I thought i should read the first book of TRC. I look at him, and how sakura was going to say I love you, I couldn't read read anymore. I look at syaoran. I kept thinking of syaoran as a clone, and this was all program into him, to save sakura :cry:
Doesn't necessary mean to "save" Sakura....
I'm having the same problem. I can't look at Syaoran without thinking "clone" anymore.....
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I would like to kindly remind some of the members that not everybody has read xxxHolic, myself included, so all this info on xxxHolic counts as spoilers, and you have to put them in spoiler tags. It's not fair to those who haven't. Remember, this thread was created to discuss TRC, not xxxHolic.
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well if the REAL syao is from CCS, maybe thats why he gave his clone a heart, so that his clone can love Sakura as much as he loved his sakura?
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well if the REAL syao is from CCS, maybe thats why he gave his clone a heart, so that his clone can love Sakura as much as he loved his sakura?
now, we know that Dark Syaoran hasn't own heart, so he can't love anybody; if he wanna protect sakura is because he was given a order, a command by FWR. Our good or clone Syaoran has heart and he really can love sakura and die for her...meeting between Dark and Good will stressing!
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now, we know that Dark Syaoran hasn't own heart, so he can't love anybody; if he wanna protect sakura is because he was given a order, a command by FWR. Our good or clone Syaoran has heart and he really can love sakura and die for her...meeting between Dark and Good will stressing!
Ok, thats good, that syaoran has a heart. I least all of the feelings he feel is real, and not just because on what he is supose to do...lllll
........but when I was rereading (trying to reread), the first book, I notice that when Touya and Yukito are talking about Sakura and Syaoran future, I think they may know something....its just me, but it seems like they know something.
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Syaoran settling something in CCS: he was only gone for 2 or 3 years, then he came back to Sakura in the last chapter. the times dont fit.
I dont think its CCS!Syaoran I think its Syaoran from yet another world. Clow got around didnt he XD, assuming its the same one.
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Ok, thats good, that syaoran has a heart. I least all of the feelings he feel is real, and not just because on what he is supose to do...lllll
........but when I was rereading (trying to reread), the first book, I notice that when Touya and Yukito are talking about Sakura and Syaoran future, I think they may know something....its just me, but it seems like they know something.
Touya's mentioned it so many times now... how he suspected something about Syaoran. He even mentioned it in the 6th book. I guess he knew there was something wrong with Syaoran...
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Okay, I'm not going to flame you, because that would be lame, but I will say that I think this is uncalled for. There were maybe five comments asking about why Fai didn't get involved, and not all of them from the big KuroFai fans. Plus, I think it's a perfectly valid question to ask why Fai didn't try to do anything. He was right there. Yes, this is Syaoran's chapitre, and I have no problem with that. It's an awesome chapitre, it really is, and everyone here knows I'm not a big Syaoran fan. I don't know, perhaps some other fans were complaining about it somwhere else more than they were here and it got under your skin. But this is the second time I've seen you say something like this on the board, and it bothers me. Anywho.
It's the second time because those posts were like 10 min apart , anyway. Yeah sorry I was overreacting a bit. I assume I was in a bad mood that day and I normally come off harsher than I mean too when I type. Anyway sorry.
I think it was just bugging me that (in my opinion) a lot of people were getting caught up in what one character was doing and not paying any attention to the rest of the story, its not always here and its not always this series. It just bugs me when that happens *shrug* I think its beginning to build up O.o
Sorry about late reply.... I kinda missed your post -.-;
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I picked up the latest volume thats out in the US, not really sure which one it is, but it was the one where they are with Ashuro and kurogane and fai are separated from them and pretending to be on the bad side (sorry i'm bad at describing it) but Ashuro mentions if sakura hasn't spotted what syaoran is then she won't be told. I was like what there was that massive of a clue and how did I miss that?!
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I picked up the latest volume thats out in the US, not really sure which one it is, but it was the one where they are with Ashuro and kurogane and fai are separated from them and pretending to be on the bad side (sorry i'm bad at describing it) but Ashuro mentions if sakura hasn't spotted what syaoran is then she won't be told. I was like what there was that massive of a clue and how did I miss that?!
i thnk thats vol 9...i must go check that out O.O that IS a big clue tho
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I picked up the latest volume thats out in the US, not really sure which one it is, but it was the one where they are with Ashuro and kurogane and fai are separated from them and pretending to be on the bad side (sorry i'm bad at describing it) but Ashuro mentions if sakura hasn't spotted what syaoran is then she won't be told. I was like what there was that massive of a clue and how did I miss that?!
I noticed that, too. Ashura says, "Those with powerful desires never reflect upon themselves until that desire is fufilled. As such, they are very strong. However, it is painful for those who watch over tham. This is especially true for Syaoran."
I think she was recalling our-Syaoran's "other will," as I like to call it, just then. If the theory of all those times we thought the real-Syaoran was taking over him was actually just his clone-self fighting is true, then I think that Ashura was explaining how our-Syaoran, when his heart and feelings are engulfed by his clone-self, never stops or thinks when he's fighting until he gets a feather.
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omg that was sooooooooo weird
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The Rashinban board thing in Syaoran's eye reminds me of when we're shown Seishirou's magical eye in Chapter 49..
http://groups.msn.com/TsubasaReservoirChroniclesOnlineManga/chapter049.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=1199
and
(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0XADdAtkdy5anj6xuk6UMUQWhe65IC!8SIXQzp0*xQ6kvMRhqlmE3kkcWKJYWrpvozkFCqnLs8TofORRaAQTPcm6JGEuAxxr1QxtQerFfJhplcKAARxKQgvu6UTuWxCruvzujWsAASf0/16.jpg?dc=4675577047179244202)
Although it probably doesnt mean that much..
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wow..
this is the longes topic in the manga discussion section, or is it? :surprised:
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wow..
this is the longes topic in the manga discussion section, or is it? :surprised:
nope. I think 118 is the longest. ^__^
The Rashinban board thing in Syaoran's eye reminds me of when we're shown Seishirou's magical eye in Chapter 49..
http://groups.msn.com/TsubasaReservoirChroniclesOnlineManga/chapter049.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=1199
and
(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0XADdAtkdy5anj6xuk6UMUQWhe65IC!8SIXQzp0*xQ6kvMRhqlmE3kkcWKJYWrpvozkFCqnLs8TofORRaAQTPcm6JGEuAxxr1QxtQerFfJhplcKAARxKQgvu6UTuWxCruvzujWsAASf0/16.jpg?dc=4675577047179244202)
Although it probably doesnt mean that much..
creapy o.O, but I think its becuase of the glass eye
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nope. I think 118 is the longest. ^__^
oh, now i see it ^^ thanxThe Rashinban board thing in Syaoran's eye reminds me of when we're shown Seishirou's magical eye in Chapter 49..
http://groups.msn.com/TsubasaReservoirChroniclesOnlineManga/chapter049.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=1199
and
(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0XADdAtkdy5anj6xuk6UMUQWhe65IC!8SIXQzp0*xQ6kvMRhqlmE3kkcWKJYWrpvozkFCqnLs8TofORRaAQTPcm6JGEuAxxr1QxtQerFfJhplcKAARxKQgvu6UTuWxCruvzujWsAASf0/16.jpg?dc=4675577047179244202)
Although it probably doesnt mean that much..
but syaoran's eye is real, right?
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but syaoran's eye is real, right?
We don't know that yet. There may be many theories, but knowing about Clone Syaoran is still iffy. :sweatdrop:
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I'm really confused with this random plot twist... XD;;; I can't wait to see what happens next o_o (And how long Fai can keep his head underwater XDXD)
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I just saw spoilers for the next chapter.... let's just say, not good.
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but the bad guy (watever his name is) saidhe made from the decendent of clow reed. isn't that the syoaran from CCS after all he is a desendant. correct me if i'm wrong
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Okay... but that leaves with another question for me, though
Where did FWR kidnap himself another Syaoran if it isn't the Syaoran from CCS world?
So is FWR related to Clow of Tsubasa world or Clow of CCS world?
I think you're missing the point (or ideal) of the Tsubasa: RC universe. ^_^ Throughout Tsubasa: RC, we find out that there are many dimensions out there. In each dimension, there can be "another you" living there. That "other you" may have a similar or complete opposite nature of your own. You can be good here on Earth, but on some other world, that "other you" can be evil.  Therefore, you and the "other you" may be different but your souls are still the same no matter what. (Can be a bit confusing but it's pretty easy to grasp.)
Therefore, there can be millions of Syaorans across the dimensions!  O_o (Scary thought, actually.)  Their personalities or nature may be different, but their souls are the same.  Think about it.  There should be more Syaorans than just the Real!Syaoran and CCS Syaoran, right? Clone!Syaoran can count sort of, but it's really the heart of Real!Syaoran that's making the clone real.  :keke:   Same concept with Clow Kingdom and CCS world. They are two different dimensions, yet, a lot of the same people exist in both of those dimensions.
Now, to answer your questions.  The truth is, we don't know.  How FWR and Real!Syaoran met, where they met, how they knew each other, etc.  The past of Real!Syaoran isn't clear yet. We are only touching the surface of the past in Chapitre 119. Real!Syaoran could be from Clow Kingdom's dimension but he could pretty much be from any dimension that contains Clow Reed (with the exception of CCS world because that world's story is over now). ^_0
I think I remember reading that FWR has lineage to Clow Reed (which means he could be a direct descendant). That would make both him and Real!Syaoran have something in common, but for now. We don't know the full truth either.  There can be many Clow Reeds across the dimensions too, just like everyone else. Heh...
 Sorry for the semi-long explanation! >_<  ^o^  I hope you understand a little better though. Wait patiently for CLAMP to answer everything we've been longing to know for such a long time.   :D