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Title: Rika/Terada: Your opinion on the large age gap
Post by: saki on May 14 2006, 06:39 pm
I mentioned Rika/Terada in another livejournal because...regardless of how offended some of the more conservative fans are- fact is that they are truly a couple. Canonwise. I myself was surprised when I first found out about it, and I suppose this sort of thing is questionable/illegal in the real world, but I was willing to accept them because CCS is only a cartoon after all, and this is CLAMP we're talking about. They specialize in, uh, unique pairings XD

I saw a Rika/Terada site once, and there were so many flames against the webmistress; flames telling her that she was 'sick' for devoting her time to such a pairing, etc...funny thing is, those people shouldn't really be blaming her- it's CLAMP that created Rika/Terada in the first place. So technically, if they're going to complain about that sort of couple, they should direct their sentiments towards the original source, not the fan.

Just my 2 cents.

I'll be closing the poll in a month or so.
Title: Re: Rika/Terada: Your opinion on the large age gap
Post by: Kuro-puppy on May 14 2006, 06:53 pm
I myself was surprised when I first found out about it, and I suppose this sort of thing is questionable/illegal in the real world, but I was willing to accept them because CCS is only a cartoon after all, and this is CLAMP we're talking about. They specialize in, uh, unique pairings XD

i don't know about the illegal bit...wasn't there a scene in the manga or anime where Terada gave her a ring and told her that it would be an engagement ring when she were older? that would make it legal right? :confused:

(it's been so long, i can't remember if that scene actually happened but i think it did) :sweatdrop:

anywayz, i like the couple they're cute together :)
Title: Re: Rika/Terada: Your opinion on the large age gap
Post by: LSD on May 14 2006, 07:28 pm
lo-li-con~

i'm sorry..but i don't like this at all >_<"

b/c.. the age the proffesor is that stage where man want to make formal a relationship..and what is he thinking with a 10-12 girl yo that started her periods ><" .. and anyway.. er.. i dunno how old is him ^^;;;.. but i'm sure he must be around 27-30 or something like that..

i don't know about the illegal bit...wasn't there a scene in the manga or anime where Terada gave her a ring and told her that it would be an engagement ring when she were older? that would make it legal right? :confused:

that happened O_O" .. omg.. well.. it woudln't be that illegal cuz she would be older.. ^^... but i like the idea....waiting for him..but that is almost impossible..cuz he will met a girl around his age.... nobody can wait that longer
Title: Re: Rika/Terada: Your opinion on the large age gap
Post by: Cardcaptor Takato on May 15 2006, 11:07 pm
I don't really care for the couple but it doesn't really disturb me either, but then most things in general don't disturb me these days.  As already said, this is a cartoon where realism pretty much goes out the window and Clamp is famous for their controversial relationships.  Plus, they're only a couple in the manga whereas in the anime it's only a one-sided crush thing for Rika.
Title: Re: Rika/Terada: Your opinion on the large age gap
Post by: Strawberry on May 16 2006, 01:02 am
I don't care more or less, however I think that the age gap and teacherxstudent relationship is way too weird. I mean if Rika was a teenager then thats a different story because when kids turns into a teenager, things start to change for them. eg. falling in love, caring about their appearances etc.... In my opinion, Rika is acting much older then her age. I mean it's sweet that they are together and a couple regarless of their ages, but somehow wrong because Rika is too young.
Title: Re: Rika/Terada: Your opinion on the large age gap
Post by: Smile_For_Me on May 16 2006, 01:26 am
In Japan, the marring age for girls is 15-16, while the boys are 18-19, and CLAMP has had another teacherxstudent in there other works, more so in CCS, TouyaxKaho, EriolXKaho, Sakura's mother and father were even a student teacher relationship. The manga Suki also has that going on, along with Chobits, so Rika and Terada relationship isn't that strange in Japan, considering a teacher can be 20 years old in Japan. Here in America, Canada or anyother place in the world, this may seem disterbing, but it happenes. CLAMP likes to put real world things in their manga, even if it might cause an uproar over what it is over seas, but this is something we should understand, that it is in Japan and a Manga/Anime.

I hope this clears things Just a little bit.
Title: Re: Rika/Terada: Your opinion on the large age gap
Post by: Kasawa Lanford on May 16 2006, 01:49 am
Also, Japan happens to have very different laws than what we have here in America, Canada or any other place

Whlie it may not be seen as wrong in Japan, could very well be seen as wrong else where

I personally don't care, I mean he is taking it slow and simple, and I highly doubt he'll do anything that will compromise there relationship or rather, that will cause any tension between them

And besides, Rika-chan did have more chances with Terada after Kaho left. He became there 5th grade teacher and I think he also became there 6th grade teacher to.... (in the movie where Hope was involved, I recall one studeting saying 'Terada-sensei' to there teacher, either that is a typo in the subtlting *although the japanese voice did match)

Dunno
Title: Re: Rika/Terada: Your opinion on the large age gap
Post by: moezychan on May 16 2006, 03:08 am
I don't entirely mind it, but I also don't entirely support it. I'm more against it than anything since I am going to become a teacher and it is against the law for any teacher to have a relationship with their student. At least that's the law in America. But at the same time, it doesn't bother me since Terada-sensei is respectful to Rika and he has never tried to hurt her or overpower her in any situation. I keep being pulled both ways with this. It really is confusing.
Title: Re: Rika/Terada: Your opinion on the large age gap
Post by: LSD on May 16 2006, 04:34 am
well.. i think that the teacher-student relation is not what is disturbing..
personally i'm a fan of those kinna relationship
but the thing here is that she is only a little kid... not like sakura's mother that at least she was already a teeneger.. and the terada is an adult.. *shulders*.. i don't like this
Title: Re: Rika/Terada: Your opinion on the large age gap
Post by: Smile_For_Me on May 16 2006, 06:57 am
I do understand that if the child is 18 year or younger, since Rika is 13 at the end of CCS, they should not have anykind of relationship going beyond simple glances and holding hands, which is the case, cause Terada said he would wait for her. It is common for students to date teachers in Japan as long as they are in College, they, the Japanese government, are not to happy when it comes to grade school and high schoolers.

I plan to become a teacher as well, but I will not date my students, because I am not a bad person. Yes it is a big no no in America and Canada, but remeber Japan is a different place, and if you have a one sided opion to things, it will become your downfall.
Title: Re: Rika/Terada: Your opinion on the large age gap
Post by: moezychan on May 16 2006, 07:03 am
I plan to become a teacher as well, but I will not date my students, because I am not a bad person. Yes it is a big no no in America and Canada, but remeber Japan is a different place, and if you have a one sided opion to things, it will become your downfall.

Ah! Another education major! I thought I was the only one. And I agree, if you're an adult I see no problem with it, but a minor and an adult that's a teacher, that is just wrong. Maybe when they're older though. They make a cute couple, and I see no problem with them except that he's her teacher, and it all goes back to me becoming a teacher. I would never date one of my students, despite the fact that I'll never teach above the age of 9.  :sweatdrop: But still.
Title: Re: Rika/Terada: Your opinion on the large age gap
Post by: Smile_For_Me on May 16 2006, 10:41 am
Ha ha, that is funny, I plan to do that too, ages 9 and down, I wouldn't want to do high school, you know how mean the kids are to the teacher, Japan are looking for American teachers at the moment, I have an open spot, and I'm only a 1st year.

Rika/Terada are a cute pair, now if CLAMP would do a Ten years later for CCS to see how everyone is doing, then It be cool.
Title: Re: Rika/Terada: Your opinion on the large age gap
Post by: Konata Izumi on May 16 2006, 10:49 am
Yawn.. Love doesn't care about age, height or any physical property, it only care about the feelings of 2 persons about each other. - Anonymous quote

Just let Rika and Terada-sensei be, If they really get close to each other, then the couple just wait for a few years and then get married. And besides, it;s kinda like that with teh whole, nadeshiko + fujitaka relationship, only this time, it happened when nadeshiko was in high school (i think)  ^_^
Title: Re: Rika/Terada: Your opinion on the large age gap
Post by: saki on May 16 2006, 11:01 pm
I think I read somewhere that the marraige age in Japan used to be 13 years old for girls. They probably changed it to 15/16 by now. I guess things are pretty different in each country when it comes to situations like this.
Title: Re: Rika/Terada: Your opinion on the large age gap
Post by: Robin Sena on May 16 2006, 11:47 pm
Another issue pointed out by CLAMP.

It makes CCS the posterboy for alot of relationship barriers. Think about it.
Title: Re: Rika/Terada: Your opinion on the large age gap
Post by: Cardcaptor Takato on May 17 2006, 07:01 am
I think I read somewhere that the marraige age in Japan used to be 13 years old for girls. They probably changed it to 15/16 by now. I guess things are pretty different in each country when it comes to situations like this.
The legal age for marriage in Japan is 18, but girls can get married at 16 with their parents' permission.
Title: Re: Rika/Terada: Your opinion on the large age gap
Post by: moezychan on May 17 2006, 07:20 am
The legal age for marriage in Japan is 18, but girls can get married at 16 with their parents' permission.

Strange, because that's the law in American as well.150 years ago a girl was considered an old maid if she didn't marry by the age of 16. Guess both culture and time play an important factor in that.
Title: Re: Rika/Terada: Your opinion on the large age gap
Post by: Smile_For_Me on May 17 2006, 08:25 am
Well back in the day, 150 years ago in America, a person lived to about 30 or 40, so marring young was a thing to do.

In Japan, 150 years ago, and still going on very rarely today, are arranged marrages, which could start at age 4 back then, but now its at 16.
Title: Re: Rika/Terada: Your opinion on the large age gap
Post by: Cherry-chan on May 17 2006, 09:00 am
I have nothing against RikaxTerada (I like it more than dislike it :)), it's just that I think it would be really awkward... I'm guessing he's in his late 20's? And he gave her a ring? I know that people around that age would be really uncomfortable in that predicament. That's another thing: I was surprised Rika was ready about love and everything. I was also quite surprised that Terada wasn't interested in a person around his age (who'd be more developed emotionally and physically). But the coupling is agreeable. I see no problem in them continuing their relationship when she's considerably older. They're rather kawaii!
Title: Re: Rika/Terada: Your opinion on the large age gap
Post by: moezychan on May 17 2006, 10:31 am
I have nothing against RikaxTerada (I like it more than dislike it :)), it's just that I think it would be really awkward... I'm guessing he's in his late 20's? And he gave her a ring? I know that people around that age would be really uncomfortable in that predicament. That's another thing: I was surprised Rika was ready about love and everything. I was also quite surprised that Terada wasn't interested in a person around his age (who'd be more developed emotionally and physically). But the coupling is agreeable. I see no problem in them continuing their relationship when she's considerably older. They're rather kawaii!

I would like to argue that, because even though Rika is young, she is extremely mature, whether by her cultural upbringing, or because she had to be. The Japanese culture is famous for their mannerisms, and being polite, but she seems to exceed that. She is always poised and graceful, in both actions and words. Her only give away that she is a child is that she gets embarrassed easily. Other than that, she always acts with grace. It could be because of her family, or her culture, or by choice, or even by all three factors. It is a bit confusing in that sense.
Title: Re: Rika/Terada: Your opinion on the large age gap
Post by: monkey on May 17 2006, 10:42 am
so what moezy says supports that she could carry the relationship quite well.
I personally love the relationship.
I don't see anything wrong with it, except for two things.
1. as long as they don't get physical untill she is old enough.. or even better, married. but then if she waits too long he will be an old man and that's icky.
2. Also on the old man, he will die long before her, and that will leave her to grieve. If she is strong enough to handle this then it's ok, but it is still a big blow to her heart.
Title: Re: Rika/Terada: Your opinion on the large age gap
Post by: minty on June 14 2006, 01:10 pm
I have mixed feelings about this relationship. Personally I don't haev problems with teacher-student relationships. What's wrong with a student liking a teacher? It doesn't disturb me. Teachers are also humans and sometimes you can't control who you like. However, I find the age gap between Rika and Terada a little too big. After all, she's just an elementary student, if she's a high school studnet, I woulld full support it! But still, I don't mind their relationship.
Title: Re: Rika/Terada: Your opinion on the large age gap
Post by: Ando on June 14 2006, 09:17 pm
I, too, have mixed feelings about them. Sure, they are terribly cute together (but then, what in CCS isn't cute?) and Rika's feelings I can totally accept, but Terada's? What can possibly a ten year old, no matter how mellow, have to offer - no, I don't mean it in that way - someone at least thrice her age? But I suppose, as long as he didn't try something until she was old enough, it's okay...
Title: Re: Rika/Terada: Your opinion on the large age gap
Post by: minty on June 15 2006, 06:04 am
Yeah, I can understand how girls are attracted to guys older than they are because they are more mature and can protect the girl and and the guy can feel a sense of pride, that's why most couples consist of a guy older than a girl. But, it's hard for me to understand why a guy much older than a girl would like her romantically because what can he qualities is he looking for in the girl? If the girl young, wouldn't she have difficulties understanding some of the things that he might appreciate?

I too, have mixed feelings about them. Sure, they are terribly cute together (but then, what in CCS isn't cute?) and Rika's feelings I can totally accept, but Terada's? What can possibly a ten year old, no matter how mellow, have to offer - no, I don't mean it in that way - someone at least thrice her age? But I suppose, as long as he didn't try something until she was old enough, it's okay...
Title: Re: Rika/Terada: Your opinion on the large age gap
Post by: Chibi on June 16 2006, 09:54 am
I would be fine with the relationship if it started when she was older. Wasn't Rika 10 or so at the beginning of the series? Either way, she's a kid! That's disturbing for a teacher to be liking a 10 year old. But *sigh* I guess in true love, age doesn't matter.

I'm basically fine with it since it's just a manga and not real life.
Title: Re: Rika/Terada: Your opinion on the large age gap
Post by: Smile_For_Me on June 16 2006, 12:46 pm
Yes, if it was real life, I could see people going nuts, manga is what ever a person can make, while trying to push peoples buttons at the same time, in which CLAMP always does, just to drive fans crazy.

Off Topic
 Has anyone here ever have a crush on some one older? Yes, I'll say that I had have a crush on a teacher before, but he never returned the feelings, mind you I was a freshman, and he was 24. Tell me that you, or anyone hasn't fell in love with an older man or woman, be it teacher or someone else, here's and example. Johnny Depth, in my dreams,  and Carmen Elctra? don't ask me, I'm not a guy