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Tsubasa Chronicle (Arc 2): Episode 12
This is the discussion topic for Episode 38 of TRC.
This episode is entitled: The Dangerous Road
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is the RAW up for it yet?
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I'm not sure if I even want to download this episode... I'll wait for responses from other people before deciding.
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It sucked. So badly. SO bad.
It is also a two parter. Is anyone else seeing something wrong with this crappy filler story being TWO WHOLE EPISODES LONG but Piffle was only 3 episodes and Shurano was only 4...
Since we know that episodes 38 and 39 are both of this filler arc, and episode 40 is called "Black Steel" (Kuroki Hagane), if we assume that this is the episode we see Kurogane's past in, then it also has to be the episode where pretty much everything before they arrive at the big library happens. Episode 41 is called "The Library's Secret" and I am pretty sure that means they are going to the library where Show content
the book with Sakura's feather is at
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So they are probably going to end up cramming Kurogane's past into... one episode. I hope I am wrong, but this is BeeTrain, professional canonrapers. -_-
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This episode just makes me think of white trash Tsubasa. So therefore, I'm refusing to watch it. I'm taking a firm stand against episodes like this.
Also, I refuse to watch any episodes from this point forward that involve a truck.
And cramming Kurograne's past into one episode just disrespects the character. Why are they devoting TWO WHOLE EPISODES to this stupid filler arc when they could be actually fleshing out the characters and giving them some DEPTH? Everyone is so dead in the Tsubasa anime, there's no life to any of the characters, they're just THERE.
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Raw here:
http://bt.saiyaman.info/download.php?id=2278&file=%5BS%5EM%
Enjoy!!! :hello2:
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Yeah, white-trash Tsubasa is a good way to put it, Emiko.
I think the only thing that made this episode watchable was the slight Syaoran torture, that was him smashing into a road sign. :XD: Oh yesh, my sadistic side LOVED that.
(*since when is your sadistic-ness a mer side, Suu?* shhhh... they don't know that.... )
And the rest of it? Lame. :/ Then again, the Rayearth crossover, who sold them swords in Outo was kinda amusing. :XD:
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And cramming Kurograne's past into one episode just disrespects the character. Why are they devoting TWO WHOLE EPISODES to this stupid filler arc when they could be actually fleshing out the characters and giving them some DEPTH? Everyone is so dead in the Tsubasa anime, there's no life to any of the characters, they're just THERE.
The way I see it, the anime manages to convey the story in a really general sense, like you get somewhat of an idea of what is going on, but the characters are poorly developed, they add things in that serve no purpose, and the artwork is shoddy.
The manga actually gives you a story, the characters are developed, the artwork is beautiful, the stories are planned out and each one serves a purpose in the larger scale.
So basically, the anime just gives us trash heap after trash heap after trash heap, it really irritates me how they cut out interactions and character development, only to throw in a mountain of unnessecary bull. It's really pathetic. BeeTrain has seriously made one of the WORST manga to anime adaptations I have ever seen in my life, and it makes me sad because it is of a manga that I love so much.
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The way I see it, the anime manages to convey the story in a really general sense, like you get somewhat of an idea of what is going on, but the characters are poorly developed, they add things in that serve no purpose, and the artwork is shoddy.
The manga actually gives you a story, the characters are developed, the artwork is beautiful, the stories are planned out and each one serves a purpose in the larger scale.
So basically, the anime just gives us trash heap after trash heap after trash heap, it really irritates me how they cut out interactions and character development, only to throw in a mountain of unnessecary bull. It's really pathetic. BeeTrain has seriously made one of the WORST manga to anime adaptations I have ever seen in my life, and it makes me sad because it is of a manga that I love so much.
*Sigh*. Agreed. I don't even care if Tsubasa gets a good dub or not anymore, the way it's going I'm certainly not going to buy it.
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I'd still buy the dub Ver. Of Tsubasa, just because I want to know who and what will play them, besides I need a drinking game for crying out loud.....be is soda for those underage, hehe.....
Lets drink to the idea....ow lets have Mokona hold on the the feather for a while, if it gets stolen, drink, if not don't drink,
Drink to everytime Sakura falls asleep....you get the point,
Ow here's a good one, drink to every character used more them once.
This is the anime, and it will not follow the manga, as sad it may be, but if it did follow the manga, word for word, it would be a little boaring, and we wouldn't have had the nice episode we had last week, so give it a try, yes a bus story is a little old, and seeing some of the things going on reminded me of a movie, Road Kill?, Road rage? well it was some sorta movie that had a road and a bus in it. What would make a better filler ep is if they started reading fanfiction, hmm and hint may be.....
I just so hope Kurgane's past being animated will be longer then one ep...
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@kuro's past, i hope so to. and they BETTER not give us any more G-D fillers!~!! thers absolutly no room for them anywhere. sticking in a filler between lecourt and tokyo would RUIN the angsty tenseness feel.
as to this episode, anyone notice teh bad-hair day kuro and fai kept haiving? when kuro was drinking tea with that old guy, he kept gaining an afro!! his bangs disapeared and his har got WIERD!!, and fai, especialy when they were looing at that map, looked like a girls wave look >_< when they resume the arc i hope they get the GOOD animaters X-(
i know the origins of all but the old guy. what anime is he from, and one last thing, what did he keep saying that made kuro NOT drink his tea? everytime kuro reached for his muc, the old guy mumbled something and kuro dropped his hand. O_o
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The old guy is from Magic knight rayearth season 2, I think.
Hmm... The episode is that bad, huh? Guess I'm not downloading it. I might flip through it on Youtube though.
No KuroxFai moments? Not-a one?
Kurogane's past in one episode? NOOOO! How are they gonna do that?!
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They'd have to immediately start with the gang walking into the library, and skip the cute scenes before that. Tch. Then they'd probably skip a few random Kurogane past scenes, that have nothing to do with Souhi, or Kurogane's dad's death. His mom's death will be cut down a bit too... Aaaand probably heavily cut down on Kurogane's crazy rampaging at the end. And then add some stupid TomoyoxKurogane scene.
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The old guy is from Magic knight rayearth season 2, I think.
Hmm... The episode is that bad, huh? Guess I'm not downloading it. I might flip through it on Youtube though.
No KuroxFai moments? Not-a one?
Kurogane's past in one episode? NOOOO! How are they gonna do that?!
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They'd have to immediately start with the gang walking into the library, and skip the cute scenes before that. Tch. Then they'd probably skip a few random Kurogane past scenes, that have nothing to do with Souhi, or Kurogane's dad's death. His mom's death will be cut down a bit too... Aaaand probably heavily cut down on Kurogane's crazy rampaging at the end. And then add some stupid TomoyoxKurogane scene.
yah, theyd slash it all to peices :( they might also cut out...Show content
that part where tomoyo uses her magic to slice thu kurogane's hand, pinning it to the wall. they dont want any blood in the anime, so soemthing like that would most likly be excluded :(
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yah, theyd slash it all to peices :( they might also cut out...Show content
that part where tomoyo uses her magic to slice thu kurogane's hand, pinning it to the wall. they dont want any blood in the anime, so soemthing like that would most likly be excluded :(
yeah...I don't know what BeeTrain will do when they make Kamui's world (i don't remember name^^ U)...blood scares BeeTrain!!
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Oh god, this episode...I guess it just goes to show that not even interdimensional travelers are spared from long, boring road trips. The animation looked pretty decent to me, though the bus, the landscape, and the way the former moved through the latter were all rather...lame.
I'm generally worried about the crossover characters because Bee-train doesn't actually know the personalities of these people if they had smaller roles in whatever part of TRC they showed up in. (I really hope they never decide to put Yasha in any filler because that would be disastrous.)
Rekord in two (maybe three) episodes does not sound good. At all. Piffle in three episodes was obviously a mistake, why do they keep doing this? They're just going to have to fill this season up with fillers, because I don't see how they can possibly start the Tokyo arc with it unfinished. It's not like they can stop in the middle of the arc and insert fillers (unless they want to make an entire episode of flashbacks in the middle of a dramatic moment, as they did in .hack//SIGN), and they can't keep pace with CLAMP, particularly if they want to keep going at this speed. It's not like they're incapable of covering the arcs...they did well by Shara/Shura, in my opinion, and also by most of the first season arcs. Why, Bee-train, why must you be so stupid?
Also, Bee-train needs to get over their hemophobia before the Tokyo arc. They just...do.
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May I ask something? WHY THE HECK DID BEE TRAIN DID SUCH A POOR EPISODE?! I don't understand why they keep adding filler episodes, they completely (well, some of them) spoil the manga. The manga is very diferent from the anime. *sigh* I started watching this episode and after the first three minutes I got bored. It isn't exciting, it is boring and lifeless...I hated it. And to think that it will be two episodes! ARGH!
So they are probably going to end up cramming Kurogane's past into... one episode. I hope I am wrong, but this is BeeTrain, professional canonrapers. -_-
I hate the fact that maybe they'll do Kurogane's past into one episode. It sucks, after all it is one of the things I'm looking forward to see. Instead of making these stupid filler episode into two parts, why don't they take priority into things that are part of the manga. :angry:
they might also cut out...Show content
that part where tomoyo uses her magic to slice thu kurogane's hand, pinning it to the wall. they dont want any blood in the anime, so soemthing like that would most likly be excluded :(
And if they do this, I will cry in disapointment. Why does Bee Train hate blood so much, the manga isn't for little kids, so why did they made the anime so...bloodless?
And if they don't like blood so much, how are they gonna do the scene of chapter 121...Show content
When Syaoran takes Fai's eye out and eats it.
 Are they gonna cut that?
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And if they don't like blood so much, how are they gonna do the scene of chapter 121...Show content
When Syaoran takes Fai's eye out and eats it.
Are they gonna cut that?
Probably. But I'm placing my bet on rainbows and sparkles shooting out of Fai's eye before a magical orb of light drifts elegantly from Fai's eye socket into Syaoran's open palm. Oh, and Syaoran's shirt won't be partially ripped off.
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Probably. But I'm placing my bet on rainbows and sparkles shooting out of Fai's eye before a magical orb of light drifts elegantly from Fai's eye socket into Syaoran's open palm. Oh, and Syaoran's shirt won't be partially ripped off.
nope. tho im sure when kamui rips syaoran to shreads wuith this vamp nails, only syaoran's shirt will get damaged, while syaoran faints at the site of his damaged black tunic and passout, turning into evil cone syao :confused:
anyone else notice the bad hariday everyone kept having in this episde? kuro kept getting a afro and fai...x_x
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An Afro?! Kuro with an afro?! I have to see that! XD
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it happens when he's drinking tea wth that old man. whenever he reaches for his mug, the old guy says something, kuroturns his head and AFRO! his bangs disaoear and everything >_<
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if anyone actualy watched this episode, someone oughta make a gif of when syaoran slams into the bilboard. X-D
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i know the origins of all but the old guy. what anime is he from, and one last thing, what did he keep saying that made kuro NOT drink his tea? everytime kuro reached for his muc, the old guy mumbled something and kuro dropped his hand. O_o
the old man was Chang-An from magic knight rayearth (epi 31 to be exact). He already appeared in Outo arc. Syaoran got his sword from him.
The old man was saying something philosophical about life example "Life is like a never-ending woven kimono."
What shocked syaoran was the old man said something similar with Yuuko like "theres no such things as coincidence, everything was inevitable. The fact that you've all met was inevitable as well"
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i just noticed that i still have to upload this ep to the downloadstopic....but i don't think i'm gonna watch it. I still have to recover from the news that Kuro's past will be done in only one episode *cries*
edit:
RAW has been added but what do i care? the anime is dead for me..
http://www.capturedwings.net/forums/index.php?topic=2825.msg152464#msg152464
enjoy?
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Okay, it watched it. Sorta. I was chatting on MSN, at the same time.
This episode seemed boring. And lacking humour. Syaoran slamming into that billboard... It could've been funny. But it really wasn't. Syaoran's expression was all serious. Like 'Oh, I'm going to avoid this thing.', but then he lamely slams into it anyway. In a boring and not-cute way.
The only thing good about this episode... Is the animation.
They also re-used too many songs.
I WANT LECOURT COUNTRY!
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i didnt really like them using "kaze no machi he" as a road trip song. kaze no machi he ios considered the kuro-fai theme!!! :hmp:
(it was also anoying how they played the beginning of the song like 10 times thruout the whole ep! :shifty:
also, the animation was OK, but kurogane and fai had bad hair day X(
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i didnt really like them using "kaze no machi he" as a road trip song. kaze no machi he ios considered the kuro-fai theme!!! :hmp:
I agree! When they started playing it on the bus, at night, I was thinking (intonation like the seagulls in Finding Nemo) "Kurofai?Kurofai?Kurofai?" I thought we might see them having a nice conversation, or maybe Fai fell asleep with his head on Kuro's shoulder, and he'd be all annoyed...
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i didn't know that kaze mache he is kuro-fai theme, because i considered it as "clover" theme song. However, i am shocked that the animator recycle that song, its better that they insert new song rather than using an old one.
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I agree with you. Kaze no machi e its from season 1, they should insert something new, diferent. -_-
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"Kaze no Machi e" is such a moving and touching song, I have no idea how the moronic animators thought that if they were going to re-use it, putting it during a boring road trip would somehow help them convey a feeling.
Just from a standpoint of looking at music as ways of enhancing the feeling of a scene / of the viewers (which is the main purpose of film/tv soundtracks), Kaze no Machi e is completely innappropriate for that particular scene (or any of these fillers) and manages to serve absolutely no purpose in the context AT ALL.
That song is way too pretty to be thrown in such a crappy episode, and also the viewers associate that song with a specific world/situation so there is no way in heck that anyone is going to think anything other than"Why are they recycling that song they played in Outo?"
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Yeah, I didn't like what they did with Kaze no Machi e either. If they had to use it, couldn't they have pretended it was playing on the radio in the bus? I would've liked that, since it's really an adaption of Oruha and Suu's song from Clover, which was broadcast on the radio in that series. (And Clover was labelled as a "one-way road trip" once, so it might make some kind of sense...) But no, that would require knowing something about the series of origin, so it couldn't happen.
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I hate "filling episodes", BeeTrain is wasting time...I'm starting to be bored with anime, I need Lecourt!!!!
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as much as im impatient to see lecourt, im kinda afraiod to watch it. afraid to see how much butchering has been done :cry:
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as much as im impatient to see lecourt, im kinda afraiod to watch it. afraid to see how much butchering has been done :cry:
IS bEEtRAIN KILLING ANIME? I think so...
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is ity just me, or does it look like fai's wearing a dress O_o
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v497/sailoryue/Tsubasa20Chronicle20-203820-20Large.jpg
this image just creeps me out a bit. -_-
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v497/sailoryue/Tsubasa20Chronicle20-203820-20La-1.jpg
can someone PLEASE make a animation of syaoran slamming into the billboard. ^^;;;
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this image just creeps me out a bit. -_-
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v497/sailoryue/Tsubasa20Chronicle20-203820-20La-1.jpg
can someone PLEASE make a animation of syaoran slamming into the billboard. ^^;;;
the pic makes me wonder what Syaoran is doing there XD
my evaluationversion of animationshop is expired so i can't make animations anymore.....sorry
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the pic makes me wonder what Syaoran is doing there XD
my evaluationversion of animationshop is expired so i can't make animations anymore.....sorry
hee, the look on that girl on thwe left (i know her nmae buti cant spell it XP) makes you think that ONE of the guys is groping her XDDD
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Syaoran: .......
Yuzuriha: EH?!!!!
Fai: Oh my! ^^
Sakura: *is too dense too realise what Syao is doing*
Kurogane: *is sleeping*
XDD
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Syaoran: .......
Yuzuriha: EH?!!!!
Fai: Oh my! ^^
Sakura: *is too dense too realise what Syao is doing*
Kurogane: *is sleeping*
XDD
funny. from the looks of it, perhaops fai is groping kuro as well, and kuro's tryng to surpress the urge to throttle him infron of the kids XDDD
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after the broadcasting of the ep 15, it will stop for the next week (but why?!) and on august 19th they will broadcast the ep 6 "the date and the magician". On august 26th, the serie continues with another ep (16), but which is the title?!
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after the broadcasting of the ep 15, it will stop for the next week (but why?!) and on august 19th they will broadcast the ep 6 "the date and the magician". On august 26th, the serie continues with another ep (16), but which is the title?!
Maybe they're trying not to catch up with CLAMP? That would be smart. Though I have to say...why, why are they showing episode 32 again?!
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after the broadcasting of the ep 15, it will stop for the next week (but why?!) and on august 19th they will broadcast the ep 6 "the date and the magician". On august 26th, the serie continues with another ep (16), but which is the title?!
Hhm, maybe the next arc'll be Tokyo and they're waiting two weeks so the manga can get a little further? D: ..
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/anime/tsubasa/yokoku.html
Preview for next week is up. Chibi Kuro <3
Buut, ugh, it looks like Bee-train've cut out most of the blood.. ><
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http://www3.nhk.or.jp/anime/tsubasa/yokoku.html
Preview for next week is up. Chibi Kuro <3
Buut, ugh, it looks like Bee-train've cut out most of the blood.. ><
The next episode looks fine (it's about Kuro-puppy's past, isn't it?), but it is true, they seemed to have cut out most of the blood. *sigh* Little kurogane looks cute, but his eyes are a little too big...or is it just me? :hehe:
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gah, It was boring and pointless.
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I hate being negative but it really was...
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Ep 14 covers the manga from chapter 91 to 95?
How many ep set up kurogane's past? maybe 4 ep?
I think that the stopping of the serie is weird, and I hope they will broadcast the x1999 world.
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I adooore chibi Kurogane!!!
(http://www3.nhk.or.jp/anime/tsubasa/images/yokoku2_14.jpg)
He is just TOO loveable! ^_^
Anyway, they're doing reruns? WHY?! We have to wait a MONTH for the new episodes?!
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AHAH of all the freaking episodes to show during the one week break, they HAD to air the Fai/Chii one. BeeTrain are really trying to shove it down viewers throats, aren't they?!
Isn't the break only a week long? Yeaaah.
Ep 14 covers the manga from chapter 91 to 95?
How many ep set up kurogane's past? maybe 4 ep?
So they're definitely shoving Kurogane's past into one episode, cos if Tomoyo is there, then that's the very end of that arc. They didn't even give Piffle 4 episodes, and Shurano/Sharano was 4 episodes, so the likelihood of Kurogane's past being 4 episodes is like, nil.
Watch BeeTrain make it into some sort of romance between them, continuing their added het parades.
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Maybe they're trying not to catch up with CLAMP? That would be smart. Though I have to say...why, why are they showing episode 32 again?!
they're non FaiXChii supporters and they like to torment the KuroXFai fans! XD
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Episode 32 wasn't that bad. I found it kawaii! *hides from all of those KuroxFai supporters* Fai and Chii are cute together....just kidding!!! :sweatdrop:
Still, I'm a little disapointed that they're shoving Kuro-puppy past in one freaking episode. :sad5:
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Yes, but the ep 14 which chapters comprehends?
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Yes, but the ep 14 which chapters comprehends?
... Whatnow?
Anywho, Yeah, it looks like the Kurogane ep will start immediately with Syaoran grabbing the book. I think they're skipping all the cute 'Let's go to the library!' stuff.
*sigh*
Unbelieveable... like 5 or 6 chapters into one episode. Beetrain has done it again. ~_~
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Kurogane's past in only one episode? And a rerun of episode 32?! Dang BeeTrain.
Things can only get better, ne? :sweatdrop: I'm pinning my hopes on the series improving by the Tokyo arc, although that might just be wishful thinking. So long as we get no more fillers like this one, I'll be (somewhat) happy.
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I hope they'll go slowly through the Tokyo arc, otherwise they'll be stuck. Though from the way they've squashed Rekord, they seem to like shooting themselves in the foot. Oi.
Episode 32...honestly, I just find it boring even apart from the Fai/Chii. But I guess they need to use filler episode, and most of those are equally lousy, so it's as good a choice as any. At least the filler episodes have decent animation.
I want to see if they're going to push Kurogane/Tomoyo in Kurogane's back story...But I'm more worried about how are they going to get right into the back story and get it over with in one episode. Don't they need to actually go to the library and stuff before they pick up the book?
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I adooore chibi Kurogane!!!
(http://www3.nhk.or.jp/anime/tsubasa/images/yokoku2_14.jpg)
He is just TOO loveable! ^_^
Anyway, they're doing reruns? WHY?! We have to wait a MONTH for the new episodes?!
AAH KAWAII!!!
why sovit into one episode. thats 10 chapters in one episode!! that sux royally. that means they took out syao's dream of *the other* syao, the look at lecourt, the explanation on how everyone uses magic. im mena, heck, do they automaticaly arrive in the library!? and they took out the non-essentil but very cute look at how chibi-kuro idolizes his dad. (bet ya they even took out the way syao noticed that kuro's dad doesnt have a scar on his left hand. :shifty: )
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http://www.torrentbox.com/dl.php/55909/%28RAW%29Tsubasa_Chronicle_-_2nd_Season_-_Episode_13_%2839%29%5B704x396_DivX511%5D.avi.torrent
Torrent for episode 13 raw, but I don't know if anyone actually wants to keep on watching this garbage *downloads out of habit*
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*pokes it*
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Nah, I'll wait until it's out on Youtube.
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me too
my internets acting up due to the storm, so ill jsut wait for a direct download. id rather watch PPGz instead :P
EDIT: o god i just watched the preview. looks like they got rid of ALL the set up. who wants to bet they end up INSIDE the library so they avoid all the set up? ikke:
Mokona: Puu, where in the next wolrd!
Fai: hmm where are we this time?
Syaioran: looks like a library. look, that book has no tile
Kuro"no writing either. *passes to syao*
Syao: "Eh? where am i? i thought i was in a library??
:angry: Beetrain has officialy killed tsubasa
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You guys, don't even bother with episode 13. So ridiculously bad, at one point the music sounded like they were playing DDR at a rave, but it was supposed to be an action scene... *sigh*
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Sakura and Primera were shooting laser guns at the bad guys. Srsly OMGWTFBBQ?
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That bad was it, huh? *sigh* :cry:
:angry: Beetrain has officialy killed tsubasa
Ditto, BeeTrain is killing Tsubasa ver badly and painfully! :hmp:
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Sakura and Primera were shooting laser guns at the bad guys. Srsly OMGWTFBBQ?
*twitch* WHO used a WHAT!? *dies*
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Sakura and Primera were shooting laser guns at the bad guys. Srsly OMGWTFBBQ?
...That actually makes me want to see the episode. I like OMGWTFBBQ. It sounds better than just riding a bus through a place that appears to be Arizona.
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...That actually makes me want to see the episode. I like OMGWTFBBQ. It sounds better than just riding a bus through a place that appears to be Arizona.
It was bad. Not even WTF in a good way. It was just... ehe.
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Finally the torrent is out
http://tracker.danomac.org/torrents/%5BYGO%5D_Tsubasa_Chronicle_2nd_Series_-_12_%5B38%5D_%5B5F1060E8%5D.avi.torrent
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woo.
hoo.
this ep will definatly cause some people to stop watching the anime, but the next episode most DEFINALTY will get some droppers =P
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No you won't... i still love the series.
you'll understand why they used "kaze no machi he" as an insert song in the next episode. BTW, pay more attention to the lyrics and the characters current situation.
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this is one of those "once is enough" episodes. and since i finaly got back to loving Kaze no machi he, id rather not relive beetrain raping it <_<
im still watching the anime, but beetrain is seriously ruiig things IE lecourt
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Direct download (http://www.sendspace.com/file/kp9g87) of the YGO subbed version, uploaded by nathalie-sama of yugioh_subs (http://community.livejournal.com/yugioh_subs/).
i guess there werent any seeds XD
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episode 38 subbed uploaded:
http://www.capturedwings.net/forums/index.php?topic=2825.msg152464#msg152464
believe it or not but i kinda liked the episode.......
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im still not watching it. even tho this eop wasnt as bad as the second ep, i dont want to go back to hating "Kaze no machi he" :(
EDIT: i MIGHT watch this episode, but i will have the sound muted so i wont hear the music abuse.
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This episode doesn't seem that bad if you follow the right script. Where the gang rides the short bus while trying to catch the plot device before it reaches the Bee Train Het Parade. ^_~
http://lumivalkea.livejournal.com/250389.html
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This episode doesn't seem that bad if you follow the right script. Where the gang rides the short bus while trying to catch the plot device before it reaches the Bee Train Het Parade. ^_~
http://lumivalkea.livejournal.com/250389.html
Lemon Tea Chronicle for the win! It just makes the whole episode so much better, no? Stalker!Shougo = XD
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This episode doesn't seem that bad if you follow the right script. Where the gang rides the short bus while trying to catch the plot device before it reaches the Bee Train Het Parade. ^_~
http://lumivalkea.livejournal.com/250389.html
lol, cool. i cant wait for them to do ep 39 XD