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Title: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Okamirei on August 27 2006, 01:30 pm
Tsubasa Chronicle (Arc 2): Episode 16

This is the discussion topic for Episode 42 of TRC.

This episode is entitled: The Other Side of Nostalgia

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Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nos
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 27 2006, 01:34 pm
well as it was said in ep 15 thread...this ep is aparently severly seprate fom the manga, and they changed everyhtnig
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even how fai uses his magic :(
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: mela on August 27 2006, 01:41 pm
well as it was said in ep 15 thread...this ep is aparently severly seprate fom the manga, and they changed everyhtnig
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even how fai uses his magic :(

They didn't really change the act as much as it just felt like it was just
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Fai going like "O hay, I can whistle here's some magic so transport us Mokona lalala." There was no buildup to it or anything, I think, so it just felt like "Whatever, Fai's doing magic." rather than "HOLY CRAP!"
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nos
Post by: Jeannette on August 27 2006, 02:12 pm
They didn't really change the act as much as it just felt like it was just
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Fai going like "O hay, I can whistle here's some magic so transport us Mokona lalala." There was no buildup to it or anything, I think, so it just felt like "Whatever, Fai's doing magic." rather than "HOLY CRAP!"
Exactly. It was totally anticlimatic and... just sort of 'Oh, okay. You just broke a promise that you had decided not to break even if you died. But whatever.' And the animation was at best... acceptable. Yeah, overall, not as bad as it could have been, but not good.

Though I suppose it will be mildly interesting to see what happens to LeCourt without its national treasure. Then again, if anything, I would rather see CLAMP write what happened to LeCourt, since they would actually make it good.
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nos
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 27 2006, 02:49 pm
the ep wasnt so bad. it had its plusses, but many minuses.
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the music. an AWSOME, sad insert song when syaoran was remembering the apple, and that Fiction Juntion YUUKA song, and one other. very nice.
and more kurofainess. (tho that moment at the end BETTER NOT BE THER CH 112 HEART TO HEART!!!)
the thing with tube syao moving at the same time as our syao, when syao went psycho...that ALMOST makes up for the lack of the nightmare <_<...almost)

the bad stuff:
*that wierd spazz thing that kuro did...that was just akward. not bad just...WIRED.
*i thought that even tho he couldnt MANIPULATE their journy...FWR could atleast still watch them,
*Tube Syao is just a little too young. he';s suposed to be teh same age as OUR syao by this time.
*As said, the use of fai;s magic was just too sudden.

err..was it just me, or were kuro's ears HUMONGUS?
heres a shot i took of a close up of him: http://i5.tinypic.com/25qqgdv.jpg
heres a shot i took from the season 1 flashback in the ep: http://i6.tinypic.com/25qqglu.jpg

one last thing...can someone PLEASE make an animated gif of
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when mokona got electricuted
ill give you lots a cookies ^^[/s]

EDIT: NVM i made it myself ^^
http://www.filelodge.com/files/hdd7/174818/mokonazap.gif
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Kuro-puppy on August 27 2006, 07:06 pm
http://www.capturedwings.net/forums/index.php?topic=2825.msg152464#msg152464

RAW added
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: ishiyaki on August 27 2006, 09:30 pm
arigato Kuroppupy!!

mmm...isn't bad at all...but some Fai's expresions are weird...

Another filler next chapter...AARGGGHHHHHHHH

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MORE TOMOYO-KUROGANE CANON!!!!

MOKONA'SKIDNAPPERS SERVICE MUST ACT RIGHT NOW! :angry:
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Meowzy on August 28 2006, 03:52 am
It wasn't that bad... The way everyone was talking here, I was expecting horror-a-plenty.

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The whistling bit really wasn't that bad. I mean, sure, it was less suspenseful. But the animation looked nice and the whistling sounded awesome. Kurogane even made a comment about the whistling beforehand, so it wasn't all that bad.
Again, lots of nice music. I liked that.
Also, I liked how they referenced to that filler ep, where Kurogane was fighting the soldiers from Fei Wong. Yeah. That made the filler a bit more worth-while.

Animation, however. Brrr... Kurogane's ears seemed huge because his black hair was hidden in the darkness of the night. You cóuldn't tell where Kurogane's head ended and the sky started. >_>
The big wing logo in the basement of the ruins seemed much MUCH smaller in the flashback.
Fai seemed fat in the scene where he was holding the apple and explaining about the memories.

Why the HELL are they still in Lecourt? WHY?! Are they planning to NOT do the X arc at all this season?
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: ishiyaki on August 28 2006, 04:14 am
Maybe, BT is destroying my nerves...

But it would be great that ANOTHER STUDIO could make a 2nd movie about Tokyo with Kamui, Fuuma and all the characters in.
Kamui, be careful, BeeTrain is going to mess your episodes...
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Smile_For_Me on August 28 2006, 04:22 am
Yes, some one with the same Idea of making Tokyo in to a moive,
It wasn't that bad of an ep, they have to drag things on a bit so they don't get to CLAMP's current saga, which I think will be in season 3, because Le Quart is still around...
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Dayanira on August 28 2006, 04:30 am
Finally i understood what seemed to me so wrong with
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using magic thing: they showed us Fai's eyes! In the manga his eyes were hidden at THIS moment, which was a sign of great angst, but here it's completely ruined   -_-

And i think his eyes looked strange :shifty:
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 28 2006, 05:07 am
Finally i understood what seemed to me so wrong with
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using magic thing: they showed us Fai's eyes! In the manga his eyes were hidden at THIS moment, which was a sign of great angst, but here it's completely ruined   -_-

And i think his eyes looked strange :shifty:
your right. thats probably anothier thing that ruined it.

can someone please tell me what kuro and fai were talking about at the end...i dont want to have to wait for YGO to get off their asses and sub. please tell me that wasnt the heart to heart in ch 112 :(
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nos
Post by: Kirtai on August 28 2006, 05:20 am
Thanks, Sailor Yue..Mokona getting
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electrocuted
makes it all worth while! :hehe: :hello2:

Oh, and it seemed to be the conversation from the beginning of the Tokyo Arc, where he says it is different than what he'd normally use...
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 28 2006, 05:25 am
Thanks, Sailor Yue..Mokona getting
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electrocuted
makes it all worth while! :hehe: :hello2:

Oh, and it seemed to be the conversation from the beginning of the Tokyo Arc, where he says it is different than what he'd normally use...

indeed it was :lol:

and that's good i guess. they BETTER do ch 112 in the anime!! if they dont, ill stop watching the anime <.< theyve taken so much away from the manga readers...thatd be the las t straw
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nos
Post by: Jeannette on August 28 2006, 06:15 am
One thing that's pretty interesting-
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Earlier  they had skipped over Syaoran seeing and realizing that the symbol on the soldiers was the same symbol from the sword that killed Kurogane's parents. So they have Syaoran realize in this episode, and tell Kurogane. And apparently Kurogane's all, 'Ah well, yeah, I realized that back when we saw them in that filler at the end of the first season.' So at least Kurogane's not a dumbass, but it robs the anime of such a dramatic point for Kurogane.
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nos
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 28 2006, 08:54 am
One thing that's pretty interesting-
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Earlier  they had skipped over Syaoran seeing and realizing that the symbol on the soldiers was the same symbol from the sword that killed Kurogane's parents. So they have Syaoran realize in this episode, and tell Kurogane. And apparently Kurogane's all, 'Ah well, yeah, I realized that back when we saw them in that filler at the end of the first season.' So at least Kurogane's not a dumbass, but it robs the anime of such a dramatic point for Kurogane.
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ah right. that part in the manga, kuro had such a dark evil smirk on his face. thatd been cool to see it in the anime :(
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Airashii on August 28 2006, 09:36 am
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ah right. that part in the manga, kuro had such a dark evil smirk on his face. thatd been cool to see it in the anime :(

But Bee Train doesn't like anything evil nor with blood![
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Mina on August 29 2006, 03:28 am
I didn't think this episode was bad. I'm not gonna say I liked the changes, because I didn't.

But one thing I loooved was the music. It was sooo good, I loved it. I hope it's in 4th OST so we can listen to it ^_^
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: householddutch on August 29 2006, 03:36 pm
One of the parts that disapointed me this episode was when Mokona started to whisk them away after Fay did his thing...

... I loved the slightly shocked/freaked looks that Kuro and Syaoran had in the manga. Plus, Fay always looks pretty...see what I mean? http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c329/householddutch/20.jpg

Anywho...pretty much like everyone was saying, no wow factorness.

It would be nice if Bee Train had a change of heart and shocked us all with their incredible version of the Tokyo Arc.....*snorts*

I wonder how long they plan on making this season...and if they think they can cram the whole next arc in.  Would it be 26-ish episodes again for this season?
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nos
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 29 2006, 04:27 pm
One of the parts that disapointed me this episode was when Mokona started to whisk them away after Fay did his thing...

... I loved the slightly shocked/freaked looks that Kuro and Syaoran had in the manga. Plus, Fay always looks pretty...see what I mean? http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c329/householddutch/20.jpg

Anywho...pretty much like everyone was saying, no wow factorness.

It would be nice if Bee Train had a change of heart and shocked us all with their incredible version of the Tokyo Arc.....*snorts*

I wonder how long they plan on making this season...and if they think they can cram the whole next arc in.  Would it be 26-ish episodes again for this season?
indeed that is an awsome shot pf those 3. i think the aniem gave is a half second shot of the looks on their faces <.<

the season is set for 26 episodes. and lecourt is being dragged out till ep 44, leaving 8 episodes fortokyo...if they dont plan on any more crap fillers. now, they did outo in 9 episodes making outo the best arc last season,  8 episodes sems to be a nice number for tokyo, but since tokyo is JUST wrapping up in the manga, i see atlesst 3 more crap fillers befor tokyo :shifty: either tha, or drag tokyo out, and make the season end on a cliff hanger...
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possibly the mind numbing cliffy of ch 120 >_<

but i hope too mich. their most likely going to give us 3-5 more peices of garbage3 filled crap episodes.

inddeed i seem to be right about the fillers >_> accrding to ANN, the folowing 2 eps after the kero ep are:

45.  The Second Trial
二度目のクナン
Nidome no Kunan

46. The Secret Art of Gokui
秘術のゴクイ
Hijutsu no gokui

they dont sound one iota like any thing happening in Tokyo V_V
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: nefadol on August 29 2006, 05:00 pm
I admit I haven't been watching the anime at all, but I watched the raw and one thing I noticed,
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Sakura is awake at the end of the episode.  How is she supposed to get trapped in a bubble with Subaru in Tokyo if she's awake?
  o_O
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nos
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 29 2006, 05:54 pm
I admit I haven't been watching the anime at all, but I watched the raw and one thing I noticed,
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Sakura is awake at the end of the episode.  How is she supposed to get trapped in a bubble with Subaru in Tokyo if she's awake?
  o_O
theres suposed to be another feather somewhere in lecourt that causes syaoran to SHRINK, where in Keroberos apears and helps mokona find him :shifty:
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: nefadol on August 29 2006, 05:57 pm
theres suposed to be another feather somewhere in lecourt that causes syaoran to SHRINK, where in Keroberos apears and helps mokona find him :shifty:

Too many feathers...Sakura must be like a feather mattress in the anime, with all the fillers and all. -_-
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: sanlyn on August 29 2006, 07:38 pm
All i can say its a nice episode with some new songs and bgms.   
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Fai played important role in this episode.  He is the one who explained the event and saved the day.  Kurogane realized the existence of "shadow syaoran" while retriving the feather.  I think this part is important because the animators are trying to make some informal introduction for the "other syaoran".
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Airashii on August 30 2006, 06:28 am
theres suposed to be another feather somewhere in lecourt that causes syaoran to SHRINK, where in Keroberos apears and helps mokona find him :shifty:

That episode is so going to stink! Kereberos in Lecourt?! Why don't they put Yue also? Or that other Kero look-a-like?!

Anyway, this episode wasn't that bad, the animation was...good, but the music was excellent! I guess that if one could mention a plus of the anime version Tsubasa, you could say it's music. I love the music!
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nos
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 30 2006, 08:43 am
That episode is so going to stink! Kereberos in Lecourt?! Why don't they put Yue also? Or that other Kero look-a-like?!

Anyway, this episode wasn't that bad, the animation was...good, but the music was excellent! I guess that if one could mention a plus of the anime version Tsubasa, you could say it's music. I love the music!
the purpose of putting kero in the ep is to real in mre ccs fans <.<
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Airashii on August 30 2006, 09:29 am
That's just stupid, Tsubasa and CCS are from completely different age groups. Kero in Tsubasa just doesn't fit, it'll be soooooo lame!
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Mina on August 30 2006, 12:45 pm
You know, the more I rewatch this episode (at least a part of it), the more I like it... I really love the part where they visit the place Syaoran and Sakura were in epi. 1, Sakura about to tell Syaoran she loves him. With that song in the background, it makes such a sad scene...I think the seiyuu of Sakura did splendid job when Sakura was saying she couldn't remember to whom or what she was trying to tell a person... and maybe it's just difference in animation but comparing the flashback Syao x Sakura and the "present" Syao x Sakura, the present Syao x Sakura seem much more.. grown up... but maybe that's just me...

I'm not looking forward to fillers.... fillers = bad... but they can't possibly  go to the end of season with fillers, can they? By the looks of it, they have to get to the next country...  has CLAMP be telling BeeTrain what happens next in the story? I mean for them to be able to include the next country, they must have had knowledge about it before the chapter release..
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nos
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 30 2006, 01:29 pm
i douvt it, but perhaps beetrain has started to animate the tokyo arc, but we wont see it till far after ep 46 -_-
because THIS does NOT sound like X/Tokyo world AT ALL:

46. The Secret Art of Gokui
秘術のゴクイ
Hijutsu no gokui

yknow, i had a dream about TRC,... i was at wawa's and i was telling my best friend from highschool all about TRC, and the check out person butted in saying how much beetrain had ruined it...at some point i talked about "the best filler arc by BT" and i think it was something about something wierd happneg to Fai (NOT THE EYE) looking at the dream...the "arc" i was talking about seems rather lame (im not saying what happened...just even DREAMING that i was praising the "good work" of BT is enmbarasing enough  :dodge:
i hope to god that BT doesnt ever come up with that idea. >_<
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Xiao_Lang on August 30 2006, 11:35 pm
I expect they will save the Tokyo arc for series 3, so we should expect a few spoilers coming up to fill in the space...

as for episode 42...
ahhh the music was lovely! so excited about the 4th OST! *_*
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Well, honestly, I don't trust Bee train anymore, and I think its safe to say the anime will never live up to the manga.
However, I quite enjoyed the S&S parts in this episode regardless. My heart was in my mouth when Sakura saw Syaoran's house, and even more so after the flashback and he sits back down with her. (I think the music made it even more emotional) ^^;

The amount of flashbacks though... made me dizzy X_x
The amount of flashbacks made me dizzy X_X
The one we haven't seen though when Sakura gets her feather back. ;__; no Syaoran! just her talking to herself again. Do you ever think she wonders if she was crazy? sitting there having a one way conversation on her own ^^; lol

What annoys me is the animation has no flow to it. Its so rigid. It doesn't help that CLAMP chose such a tall thin style, but the animators fail to work with it as well in motion. It looks better on the page of a book.

Oh and... I thought Fye couldn't whistle?

Best thing was the music though... <3
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 31 2006, 01:21 am
@ part of your review:
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Oh and... I thought Fye couldn't whistle?
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the animators ruined the build up. ll thruout their time in "clow" fai halfwhistles, like he did at the end of ep 41...only a timy sound. in tha manga, while they were looking for the book, and kuro pushed the book helf, the written sound effet was "pyuu' rther then "hyuu"... even at one point he went "ne kuromin, did that sound like a whistle?" (of course kuro was rather BUSY atthe moment XP) when fai throws his bowler inro the acid, thats the first time "pyuu" was drawn with music notes around it.

fai's whistle magic was suposed to be far more dramatic then it was in the anime.

http://tinyurl.com/mzbdb
http://tinyurl.com/fsf3e
http://tinyurl.com/kjcg8
http://tinyurl.com/zncca
http://i1.tinypic.com/261kz6p.jpg
http://tinyurl.com/zsru4
http://tinyurl.com/fg4tb

even if your NOT a manga reader...red that excerpt if you want to know the TRUE emotion of the scene <_<
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Kjesta on August 31 2006, 01:28 am
The only thing I liked about this episode was the music *sigh* The whistle was pretty disappointing, it didn't even sound cool. (Whatever I had expected was definitely NOT an Asian sounding flute or something.)

And it somehow bothers me that his magic is blue >>" I know, it's supposed to be blue, but the scene in the manga just screams "pale green" to me.

The whole thing how they come out of the library and such - it just lacks all the "ZOMG WTF HE USED MAGIC?!" *sniff*
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Xiao_Lang on August 31 2006, 01:32 am
@ part of your review:
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the animators ruined the build up. ll thruout their time in "clow" fai halfwhistles, like he did at the end of ep 41...only a timy sound. in tha manga, while they were looking for the book, and kuro pushed the book helf, the written sound effet was "pyuu' rther then "hyuu"... even at one point he went "ne kuromin, did that sound like a whistle?" (of course kuro was rather BUSY atthe moment XP) when fai throws his bowler inro the acid, thats the first time "pyuu" was drawn with music notes around it.

fai's whistle magic was suposed to be far more dramatic then it was in the anime.

http://tinyurl.com/mzbdb
http://tinyurl.com/fsf3e
http://tinyurl.com/kjcg8
http://tinyurl.com/zncca
http://i1.tinypic.com/261kz6p.jpg
http://tinyurl.com/zsru4
http://tinyurl.com/fg4tb

even if your NOT a manga reader...red that excerpt if you want to know the TRUE emotion of the scene <_<

ahh thanks.. ^_^ I obviously didn't pay close enough attention whilst reading that manga chapter! >__<
but your right, Bee train have a record at draining any emotion from a scene
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 31 2006, 02:34 am
indeed. the manga your ike "O.O OMG did he just DO that?" whilst in the anime your like, "huh? what? oh...fai used his magic. ok *shrugs*"

nd your right, to me the use of his magic in the maga soundedin my head like a haounting ghstly whstiling, and the sheild slowly rising., not like a flute sound and POOF insta-sheild.

The only thing I liked about this episode was the music *sigh* The whistle was pretty disappointing, it didn't even sound cool. (Whatever I had expected was definitely NOT an Asian sounding flute or something.)

And it somehow bothers me that his magic is blue >>" I know, it's supposed to be blue, but the scene in the manga just screams "pale green" to me.

The whole thing how they come out of the library and such - it just lacks all the "ZOMG WTF HE USED MAGIC?!" *sniff*
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Kuro-puppy on August 31 2006, 02:51 am
indeed. the manga your ike "O.O OMG did he just DO that?" whilst in the anime your like, "huh? what? oh...fai used his magic. ok *shrugs*"

you have read the manga where the scene was "O.O OMG" but then when you watch the anime you already know he is gonna do that, doesn't that make it less "O.O OMG" as well?
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on August 31 2006, 03:40 am
you have read the manga where the scene was "O.O OMG" but then when you watch the anime you already know he is gonna do that, doesn't that make it less "O.O OMG" as well?
i guess, but i havent read the manga since 2 months prior to the episode...<.< there still should have been SOMEsort of buildup :P
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: nefadol on August 31 2006, 04:32 am
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You also have to think that after he whistled in the manga they were dumped into Tokyo, Sakura was asleep, and they could talk to Fai about him breaking his promise not to use his magic.  They're still on the run in the anime, so I guess their priorities lie elsewhere.  Hopefully they still have the chapter 112 talk. Test tube Syaoran showing signs that he's waking up in the anime is a good sign for Tokyo though.

By the looks of it, Tokyo probably won't show up until next season.  They should already be in Tokyo. -_-
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: KiraiAnca on September 01 2006, 12:26 am
Did anyone notice the eye-catch? (literarilly...)

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/Ancalyme/BlueEyesSyaoran.jpg

~This may already be known, but I only noticed it now.
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 01 2006, 01:11 am
Did anyone notice the eye-catch? (literarilly...)

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/Ancalyme/BlueEyesSyaoran.jpg

~This may already be known, but I only noticed it now.
O_O holy.......i never noticed that
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Post by: Airashii on September 01 2006, 05:33 am
Did anyone notice the eye-catch? (literarilly...)

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/Ancalyme/BlueEyesSyaoran.jpg

~This may already be known, but I only noticed it now.

What's the matter with it?
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Emiko on September 01 2006, 05:45 am
What's the matter with it?

One of his eyes is blue.
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Airashii on September 01 2006, 06:04 am
It isn't that blue, but still there's a hint of dark blue. *shruggs* Is Bee Train already giving hints?
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Capella on September 01 2006, 12:43 pm
Quite apart from anything else, the music in this episode took my breath away. I love the new FictionJunction song. I don't remember this part of the manga very well, but
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I agree that there must have been some kind of lack of build up towards Fai using his magic in the anime. It didn't seem quite as climatic as it should. It could be partly because of the visual presentation - I believe Fai had his own page when using his magic in the manga, which kind of created this pause that doesn't exist in the anime.

Oh, and what was up with the next episode preview? o.O Are they inventing more Kurogane flashbacks, or something? I definitely see Souma (and I'm counting that as a plus).
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 01 2006, 01:41 pm
Quite apart from anything else, the music in this episode took my breath away. I love the new FictionJunction song. I don't remember this part of the manga very well, but
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I agree that there must have been some kind of lack of build up towards Fai using his magic in the anime. It didn't seem quite as climatic as it should. It could be partly because of the visual presentation - I believe Fai had his own page when using his magic in the manga, which kind of created this pause that doesn't exist in the anime.

Oh, and what was up with the next episode preview? o.O Are they inventing more Kurogane flashbacks, or something? I definitely see Souma (and I'm counting that as a plus).
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indeed. it was so ANGSTY when fai used it. his eyes were hidden and he had a sad smile.
 the anime showed NO emotion during it.

as for the next episode, its lamey lamey lame!! from wht chibiyuuo said in the LJ, syaoran goes BCK into kuro's meory book...how and where they got the book of meories when their wanted fugitives i dont know <.<
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nos
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 01 2006, 05:45 pm
can someone translate NHK's summery for the next episode...i took it to animelab.com's translater, and from the looks of it it talks about fai...atleast tell me wat the part about fai says ^^

speaking of which...if they even THINK about inserting the convo in ch 112 in that filler.... :angry: :cussing: :angry5: :evil1:
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: KiraiAnca on September 02 2006, 11:46 pm
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From the summary in NHK it says that  "WIth the help of Fai's magic they were able to escape and transport, but landed in Le Cour.  .... "

So they go from the Lecourt to ... Le Cour? How terribly original, Bee Train. Although, from the end of the episode, it does look a lot like Lecourt/Rekord.

How much is the wager that anime!Fye will start whoring his magic out?
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Capella on September 03 2006, 12:08 am
From the summary in NHK it says that  "WIth the help of Fai's magic they were able to escape and transport, but landed in Le Cour.  .... "

"Le Cour"? Is that supposed to be a different world? As in, a close variation. Or is it just Lecourt/Rekord transliterated differently? If it's supposed to be different, what is Bee-train doing? Playing off the Shura/Shara idea? If so, that really doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: sanlyn on September 03 2006, 01:39 am
They are still in the same world....
sorry...  :sweatdrop: it just typo error... i am not aware of the official spelling of lecourt, le cour,  or what ever... since i don't read manga in the mean time...... to avoid spoiler.  so to avoid any confusion  :confused: i'll delete my previous post...
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nos
Post by: Jeannette on September 03 2006, 02:58 am
The raw for Episode 43 is out here. (http://www.torrentbox.com/torrent_details?id=63814)

...Sigh.
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Airashii on September 03 2006, 03:31 am
I can't download it, but is it that bad?
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: KiraiAnca on September 03 2006, 04:37 am
It isn't as good as the previous episode... but not exactly 'bad' either. That is atribute reserved solely for the Road Trip episode thingies. [Admitedly, 'sigh...' does cover it.]

I guess we'll have to wait for the official discussion thread to bash it.
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Airashii on September 03 2006, 04:49 am
Can't wait. ^o^
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Meowzy on September 03 2006, 05:01 am
About ep 17...
PLOT HOLE! HUGE, INCREDIBLE PLOTHOLE!
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Fai grabbed the book before Kurogane did. Technically, Kurogane should've entered Fai's memories. ~_~

Animation was horrible. Just... UGH.
Kurogane was SO O.O.C. I nearly cried. Seriously. I don't get how Kurogane's seiyuu even agreed to do this. I bet they paid him extra.
Mokona and Kero-chan? Just... NO.

They're trying to make up for the horrible plot by bribing us with Insert Songs, me thinks. That's the third Insert Song this season.
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Sandra-chan on September 03 2006, 05:12 am
I'm downloading it now, but from what you others say about it it seems to be horrible... :( Can't BT quit doing these bad fillers?!
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Meowzy on September 03 2006, 05:19 am
It is horrible. I swear, I nearly started to cry.
Then I rewatched the OOC scene and felt a strange feeling of queasiness in my stomach. ~_~
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nos
Post by: Jeannette on September 03 2006, 05:20 am
BLARGH. Bad episode. (Refering to 17)

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Not only  did Fai grab the book, but Kurogane TOLD FAI ABOUT SYAORAN GOING ALL CLONE. That's not supposed to happen until TOKYO.

And secondly, when Syaoran gets trapped in the book again, they all KNOW that Syaoran's trapped in the book and watching Kurogane's memories. So why don't they take the book away?

In the flashbacks, Tomoyo looks REALLY fugly. And why the hell do the spirits of Kurogane's parents show up? ><

While it was nice to see Sai and Kaede more (they are such a cute couple), why did they spend the whole episode going after Syaoran-tachi only to let them take the feather without a fight? I agree with Becster- they got bored and wanted to go have sex.
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Airashii on September 03 2006, 05:23 am
BT is such a pain in the ***, they are destroying such a beautiful manga!
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Sandra-chan on September 03 2006, 05:26 am
It is horrible. I swear, I nearly started to cry.
Then I rewatched the OOC scene and felt a strange feeling of queasiness in my stomach. ~_~

What  happened in the OOC scene?
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Post by: Becster on September 03 2006, 05:28 am
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I agree with Becster- they got bored and wanted to go have sex.

You know it >D
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Meowzy on September 03 2006, 05:36 am
What happened in the OOC scene?

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Fai apparently told Kurogane to let Syaoran read the book with his memories again. I'm not sure why though. So Kurogane tried to be sneaky by placing the memory book on a book Syaoran was reading before. He got caught by Sakura and hid behind the book. And... And... HE STUTTERED! In this really creepy, OOC, nervous and jumpy way... he stuttered!
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Sandra-chan on September 03 2006, 05:43 am
!? Weird... For the first what good would come out from Syaoran seeing even more of Kuroganes memories? I can't belive Kurogane agreed to that! And he stutter?! That will be weird seeing.
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Post by: Airashii on September 03 2006, 05:48 am
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Fai apparently told Kurogane to let Syaoran read the book with his memories again. I'm not sure why though. So Kurogane tried to be sneaky by placing the memory book on a book Syaoran was reading before. He got caught by Sakura and hid behind the book. And... And... HE STUTTERED! In this really creepy, OOC, nervous and jumpy way... he stuttered!

!? Weird... For the first what good would come out from Syaoran seeing even more of Kuroganes memories? I can't belive Kurogane agreed to that! And he stutter?! That will be weird seeing.

Bee Train definetly is not creative in making filler episodes, ther are the destroyers of anime! Kurogane stuttering, please! That's so lame! Kurogane isn't the type to stutter!  :angry: I'm getting quite pissed!
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Sandra-chan on September 03 2006, 05:59 am
I totally agree.
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Airashii on September 03 2006, 06:12 am
I wonder if Clamp have said anything about all of these crappy episode.
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Sandra-chan on September 03 2006, 06:25 am
Oh, episode has finished downloading, but I'll probably wait until tomorrow to see it, even though it's not gonna be good I'll see it anyway.
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Airashii on September 03 2006, 06:27 am
Great! But the anticipation to see that episode isn't that great, no?
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Sandra-chan on September 03 2006, 06:48 am
No. :(
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: KiraiAnca on September 03 2006, 06:55 am
Not only that but - they're whoring Fye's magic!

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And that girl just dissolved his shield, when it was stated that only someone more powerfull than the caster can detect it, let alone dissolve it! And I doubt she's more powerfull than Fye.

The insert song was cute... but it sounded a bit too cheerfull for the scene, me'thinks. It fit in the end, somewhat but... only in the end.
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Airashii on September 03 2006, 07:01 am
Argh! I think I won't be seeing that episode!
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Sandra-chan on September 03 2006, 07:08 am
Well it dosen't sound promising..
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Post by: Meowzy on September 03 2006, 07:12 am
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And that girl just dissolved his shield, when it was stated that only someone more powerfull than the caster can detect it, let alone dissolve it! And I doubt she's more powerfull than Fye.

She's the one who created that magic. Fai just exploited it for their own convience, I think.
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Dayanira on September 03 2006, 07:14 am
I don't know, maybe i'm just in too peaceful mood, but i kinda liked it. Yeah, Kuro was ABSOLUTELY OOC, but it was so funny! Especially that final part with a beast, it was very cute. And those memories made up by BT were quite interesting, i mean like another different point of view.
The atmosphere of the episode is SO nostalgic... so light and friendly, which, considering current manga events, is not THAT bad.
I don't think there's any point to bash BT all the time. We won't get what we want from THEM anyway, so why don't we just consider it another version of Tsubasa and exept it the way it is? Bright side, you know.

And i really want to know who Kero's seyu is... kill me but he sounds so much like in CCS!
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: mela on September 03 2006, 07:16 am
Wow, that episode was absolutely horrendous. LeCourt was treated like some stupid filler world.

Next week's preview scares me even more.
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Sandra-chan on September 03 2006, 07:18 am
It would be good if Kero's seiyuu would be the same. I liked his seiyuu in CCS.
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Sandra-chan on September 03 2006, 07:24 am
Wow, that episode was absolutely horrendous. LeCourt was treated like some stupid filler world.

Next week's preview scares me even more.

It's filler next week too right? There are to many fillers in the Tsubasa anime...
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Smile_For_Me on September 03 2006, 07:31 am
Its the anime, we have another 20 ep's to go for 2nd season to be over, so we could have 20 ep's of fillers, or we might get......shudders at the thought....Tokyo arc....

Just think of this as a bright side though, at least the voice's and sound tracks are good, and when the anime is decent, it fun to watch, just remebering the TRC epi on Crack, Yes, I like the manga more, but the anime is good to, I mean it could be worse right? I've seen worse drawing in anime, and plot holes rittled the whole thing, cough "Weiss Kreuz" cough, and yet it's got screaming fan girls & boys all over the world, so TRC isn't that bad.
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Airashii on September 03 2006, 07:31 am
It's about Kero-chan, no? *shudders*
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Post by: mela on September 03 2006, 07:34 am
It's about Kero-chan, no? *shudders*

Yep.
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(http://xs205.xs.to/xs205/06356/KERO.jpg)
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nos
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 03 2006, 09:12 am
i practicaly choked myself in reading your reveiws of the ep <_< it aint one im going to be watching. ill just read the review and save myself the trouble of getting sick lik i did in ep 39 :dodge:

bgtw...ep 21... はたらくサクラ | hataraku sakura
what does it translate to?
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Airashii on September 03 2006, 09:37 am
Yep.
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(http://xs205.xs.to/xs205/06356/KERO.jpg)

Kero does not FIT IN TSUBASA!!!! EWWW, are they still going to be in Lecourt when he appears?
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nos
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 03 2006, 09:47 am
Kero does not FIT IN TSUBASA!!!! EWWW, are they still going to be in Lecourt when he appears?
yes. according to what chibiyuuto says, what happensi nth te pisode is syaoran disapears while their sleeping, and while mokona goes searching for him, who should arrive and help but kero, who is visiting lecourt because its a magical country.....worstpart of the epside: A FEATHER CAUSE EVERYONE TO SHRINK.
now, yes sakura's feathers hold amazing powers, but usualy they only go awry if their in the wrong hands...alone their harmless.
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Meowzy on September 03 2006, 10:11 am
*shudders*
Yeah, I saw the shrinking thing. Not only does Syaoran shrink, but the rest of the gang too.
However, at the end of ep 17, the gang LEAVES Lecourt. So the Kero ep can't be set there.
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nos
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 03 2006, 01:39 pm
i looked at the screen shots on the bloggy thing: http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2006/09/02/tsubasa-chronicle-43/

if stuff like that truely happened to kuro, im pretty certain he wouldnt have ended up becomming so ruthless
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Å akura on September 03 2006, 01:47 pm
i practicaly choked myself in reading your reveiws of the ep <_< it aint one im going to be watching. ill just read the review and save myself the trouble of getting sick lik i did in ep 39 :dodge:

bgtw...ep 21... はたらくサクラ | hataraku sakura
what does it translate to?

I think that it can be translated this way ^^:

Episode 21: "Sakura come into play (action)" or "Sakura works"

*-* I cannot wait to see the Kero-chan and Mokona's episode XD
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nos
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 03 2006, 02:12 pm
I think that it can be translated this way ^^:

Episode 21: "Sakura come into play (action)" or "Sakura works"

*-* I cannot wait to see the Kero-chan and Mokona's episode XD
*head slam*
 who  here thin,ls that its the idols episode? it IS the only time sakura ever truely did anything in the manga  :shifty:
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Meowzy on September 03 2006, 10:30 pm
If it is the idols country, I'd be pretty happy. However, it'd mess up with the manga plot, since it was supposed to happen BEFORE Shura/Shara.
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: KiraiAnca on September 03 2006, 10:53 pm
However, it'd mess up with the manga plot, since it was supposed to happen BEFORE Shura/Shara.

... and they care about this since when? *sigh*
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Capella on September 04 2006, 02:29 am
... and they care about this since when? *sigh*

Indeed. They could still show Idols, though it will have lost its plot significance entirely now that we've already been through Shara/Shura. u_u
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Sandra-chan on September 04 2006, 07:07 am
I've just seen episode 17, and I wonder if anyone here understod what they said in the scene where Kurogane is told by Fai to give the book of memories to Syaoran? Because in my opinion it didn't seem like it was because he would see more of Kuroganes memories,  I don't understand why Kurogane would agree to that. Another thing I didn't understand was why the spirits of Kuroganes mom and dad appered..

Well overall I thought the episode was ok, I liked the song they played near the end by Maaya. Kurogane shutter was a little funny but at the same time very weird because thats something he would never do in the manga. And the next episode *sign* well atleast Kero seemed cute(it sounded like he had the same seiyuu as in CCS) but I don't really think he suits to be in tsubasa. And why do everyone have to shrink? Well we'll see...
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Tatasenko on September 04 2006, 07:33 am
either Beetrain has some problems of paralysis,or else they are totally blind,because look at the huge contrast of skill between the face of Kurogane and Fai  :dodge: :

(http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/6997/04bw9.th.jpg) (http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=04bw9.jpg) (http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/7898/03ew1.th.jpg) (http://img46.imageshack.us/my.php?image=03ew1.jpg)

this is definitely a SPOILED work  :angry:!
it is not the first time that Kurogane looks ugly,and however according to the beautiful design of Fai,Beetrain CAN do a meticulous animation,but they are too lazy to concentrate their attention on EVERY characters  :shifty:
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nos
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 04 2006, 08:22 am
either Beetrain has some problems of paralysis,or else they are totally blind,because look at the huge contrast of skill between the face of Kurogane and Fai  :dodge: :

(http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/6997/04bw9.th.jpg) (http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=04bw9.jpg) (http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/7898/03ew1.th.jpg) (http://img46.imageshack.us/my.php?image=03ew1.jpg)

this is definitely a SPOILED work  :angry:!
it is not the first time that Kurogane looks ugly,and however according to the beautiful design of Fai,Beetrain CAN do a meticulous animation,but they are too lazy to concentrate their attention on EVERY characters  :shifty:
indeed. why cant they do the same work for kuro? they did an awsome job on the close up cokercial bump (the one where he looks really really hot XP)
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Smile_For_Me on September 04 2006, 01:15 pm
This is for episode 17, so hehe, I'm just waiting for CLAMP to pull a fast one on BeeTrain..
Spoiler for the joke, or whatever it is....

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CLAMP: "Look what bee train has done." All shakes their heads
Mokona, the person, not the white or black mujinbuns, gets and evil smile on her face.
"I know, lets bring Kuro's daddy back in the picture, after all we never did see a body. Hint hint."
The other three member's smile's widen with evilness.

Chapter 157, The one arm'd man--Kurogane's father alive!?

Bee Train reads latest Clamp Chapter of TRC. ".......Crap......ok, time for another filler on how Kurogane's father lived....some how......"


I just got board, and it would be cool if CLAMP did do that to spite BT....
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nos
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 07 2006, 08:40 am
lemon tea chronicles for all 3 eps of lecourt is out

(not counting ep 43 as a lecourt ep )
http://lumivalkea.livejournal.com/273093.html
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: nefadol on September 07 2006, 08:56 am
:XD: That was more entertaining than watching the actual episode.  From what I watched of the anime, it seems extremely slow....but plows through the actual canon quicker than it should.  They really should be in Tokyo already, but I fear that they'd jump ahead too far if they were.
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Anime4you on September 24 2006, 10:04 pm
So.... I've done this subtitles too.... It has the same avertisment like the first one (the subtitle is only decently not good or great).... Thanks for translation go to my sis again :P...And for all others to me :P :P :P... Enjoy!

http://www.torrentreactor.to/torrents/download_209185
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nos
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 25 2006, 06:07 pm
cool thanks...might want to check your spelling next time tho ;)

as for what was said in FWR's layer...they gave something away WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too soon!!!
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Xing hoiu: "only thru them can we suprivise them," AAUUGH! they just gave it away T_T
stupid stupid STUPID BEETAIN!!

EDIT: but what fai says in the ruins makes up for it. ^^

almost
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Anime4you on September 26 2006, 12:49 am
Spelling, spelling and spelling again.... Of.... My english teacher said that too :(....The translasion isn't better than at the first, but I worked hard at effects and karaoke....... Of ... Sorry for spelling again....

Btw... I want to be from French.... the subtitles for the next episode are up from from friday 0_o
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nostalgia
Post by: Zettai daijoubu on September 30 2006, 01:00 pm
thanks for your translation!!! i just watched the episode.. you might wanan be more careful about your spelling.. ^^

it's messed up!!! why are they still doing in Leucourt?! what is mokona doing?!!?!

i love it when the evil syaoran appeared and kuro saud "who are you?" they wasted a bit of time with the front part though.. going to syaoran's house and having those flashbacks.. i wish the story would pogress faster i wanna see them in Tokyo!!!!

the mystery of kuro's mum's murderer is finally cleared up i was still wondering back in episode 40/41 that why didn't Syaoran tell him about the murderer.. i completely forgot about the filler episode where kuro already had a glimpse of the FWR's soldiers..

but the preview does show that we are going to know more about kurogane's past.. Syaoran is taking a look at kuro's past through the book again? but how is that possible especially when the book of memories is destroyed? (Syaoran took out the feather)

sorry i always like to compare the anime to the manga.. and feel that the manga is much better..
Title: Re: [TRC Arc 2] Episode 16: The Other Side of Nos
Post by: Sailor Yue-chan on September 30 2006, 02:27 pm
thanks for your translation!!! i just watched the episode.. you might wanan be more careful about your spelling.. ^^

it's messed up!!! why are they still doing in Leucourt?! what is mokona doing?!!?!

i love it when the evil syaoran appeared and kuro saud "who are you?" they wasted a bit of time with the front part though.. going to syaoran's house and having those flashbacks.. i wish the story would pogress faster i wanna see them in Tokyo!!!!

the mystery of kuro's mum's murderer is finally cleared up i was still wondering back in episode 40/41 that why didn't Syaoran tell him about the murderer.. i completely forgot about the filler episode where kuro already had a glimpse of the FWR's soldiers..

but the preview does show that we are going to know more about kurogane's past.. Syaoran is taking a look at kuro's past through the book again? but how is that possible especially when the book of memories is destroyed? (Syaoran took out the feather)

sorry i always like to compare the anime to the manga.. and feel that the manga is much better..
most of the manga readers hate the way the anime has geen done.

1 their still in lecourt because betrain wants to strech things out. maybe they didnt want an open ending in lecourt. (tho how they end it is bull crap) you COULD say that when mokona got electrocuted it screwed up his dimension thingy.

2 as for the explorations of CLOW...its not that bad an idea. its fanservice for the syaoran fans, all syaoran angst and all. plus the music along those lines <3

3 it seems lame that they waited till NOW for syaoran to remember the guards, but tis actualy also more logical. the ruins reminded syaoran instead of syaoran saying "o by the way..." or soemthing likethat. tho the way they mentioned the filler was stupid and kuro's miny-spaz was creepy O_o

4 as for the next episode: its really really stupid. fai suggest to kuro that they give syaoran the book again to try to see syaoran;s past, but it soem how ends up the other way around and syaor see's more kuro;s past that s LOADED with character rape and kuro-tomo shippyness.