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CLAMP's Famous Works => Tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE => Season 1 => Topic started by: lumizstar on April 30 2005, 10:58 pm
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Ok. Here comes the discussion thread for Episode 4 ^^ Have fun dicussing :wink:
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Ooh ! The next ep will have a fight between Fye and Primera ( don't know if I spell right :dodge:)
Just see the review :sad5: I havent's seen ep 4 :cry: I can't see them anywhere :cry:
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i haven't watch the episode yet but i want to say..
can you people not post only you can't wait to watch it.. because that's just a waste of space.. i understand you impatient because i feel the same but please don't just post i can't wait for this episode.. if you post it with a longer post sure.. but if it's just one sentence please don't..
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Ep 4 is a little weird ^^" Anime now different from manga, alot ... Sakura now waking up and she met Shougo and ( i forgot his name ^^ the one who is the boss of the team opposite with Shougo's team)
The drawing is not well :( They draw Sakura so weird ( they destroy our Sakura :cry:) except the face and her smile ^^ They're well...lucky them, or I will ..... ~_~
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Hi, I'm new...
About ep 4, no one has made any comments yet, but it looks like they put off Fai's much anticipated fight until ep 5. I'm sure they had a good reason, but I'm not really sure what it could be......
So, a whole ep with Sakura walking around looking at birds. I really like the manga, but this series isn't turning out to be as "actioney" as I thought it would. So far it is pretty much people just looking at each other. Oh well, 5 looks like it'll be good!
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i haven't watch the episode yet but i want to say..
can you people not post only you can't wait to watch it.. because that's just a waste of space.. i understand you impatient because i feel the same but please don't just post i can't wait for this episode.. if you post it with a longer post sure.. but if it's just one sentence please don't..
I hope Lika-chi had reminded you all abou the newly revised rules in the forum rules page. More of these messages (meaningless/off-topic/etc) post fillers, WILL NOT be tolerated. Ok...this is a reminder for you all :) This time, I only deleted those posts. Please be reminded again to read the new rules. Thanks :wink:
Just a quick note that the Raws is already out (pretty late this time). So..dl and enjoy ^^
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Back to topic ^^ I've seen Ep 4 sub and it's not bad, at the first time I saw Raw ver, I didn't understand anything >.<
I think that Epi 4 didn't bad at all.... but not really good, there're some reasonless, how can Sakura flying ?!?! Has she got a kundan ^^" I was so confuse >.<
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My comments on episode 4- well it definately didnt match the manga- but i thought it was okay. Still, i prefered Ep.3- must be becos of syaoran's dreamy looks at sakura!! awww....
Thanks to dattebayo, i downloaded the sub version so i was able to understand what it was abt!! yes, i agree, there was less action in this episode, from the preview- i can see that there will be more action in ep. 5, and also i believe the anticipated heartbreaking moment when sakura says- who are you- well thats a guess!
It was cool how tori and yukito kinda looked out for sakura, even tho they didnt know eachother- i thought that was pretty cool. they were frm different worlds- but deep down they knew eachother- if anyone gets what i mean! :sweatdrop:
also the nice catch from syaoran- yes!! i loved this part as well- how kurogane and that boy had there clenched fists- and going :hello2: and go syaoran!!
they were able to show sakura's kind nature during this ep., how her smile was able to melt the bad guys heart.
the weird part was sakura flying- there were small funny parts like-sakura changing her clothes and the bad guys reaction! and cute mokana being stuffed into kurogane's pocket!! awwww!!
all in all, i was pleased with this episode and i cant wait for the next one. ! :okay:
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*cough*
Uh yeah, I am really, and I mean really surprised by this episode. We can now officially say that the anime and manga are very different. Not only does Sakura wake up, but she reacts with every other character, besides our trio, especially Syaoran. I have this feeling that we wont see the heart-breaking moment, and if they do show it, I think it will lose it's impact, since she has already waken up.
Also I'm not sure, but I think Sakura doesn't remember anything at all, including her name, until she has her second feather. So why does she remember that. I'm very confused.
Secondly, why is the evil bad guy have more screen time than any of the other characters? I mean, he's not even a secondary character. I find this weird. this episode seemed pretty pointless in terms of the plot, it only seemed to show that Sakura is a kind hearted person and is able to make someone change. Okay, we got that, but did it really deserve an episode, that messed up the plot, if they were following the plot, just to show the fact that Sakura is a kind person.
Also, what was with the bird obbsession? First the apples, and now the birds. Lol, I found that very amusing, that Sakura's driving force in the entire episode was because of a bird, and a feather ^^. And also the fashion show. Lol, I also found that very amusing as well. *chuckles*
Also, I felt that Sakura came off as....ditzy in this episode. With the 'sugoi!' and stuff. I thought the 'Don't cry' scene was cute, but rather unneccessary. >.<
And lets not forget that Syaoran's is BEE TRAIN's new Superman. I thought the first episode made Syaoran come off as 'super-ish' then the 4th one just made it more true. Yeah, you go Syaoran! w00t *cough* I still think there making Syaoran too 'amazing' though, and they are dragging out the Hashin arc with fillers, I'm classing it as a filler. I'm starting to think the 26 episdoe time length wont match up with the way things are going now.
I'm not trying to come off as negative, but just trying to make the point that Bee-train has made it pretty clear that there not true to the manga. It's nice how there trying to make there own adaptation, but the changes are getting bigger and bigger by every episode. It depends on how they take it from here. My only concern is the sad scene that I have been waiting for is becoming non-existent by every episode. *sobs*
A few pros was the song we heard, yet again, in this episode. I thought the japanese version was nicer in terms of lyrics, but the english version was nice too. Also, Kurogane was simply hilarious fighting with the food guy, and of course him and Mokona's riffs. ^^
I hope this post isn't too long, *chuckles* Let's just say, that this episode certainly had alot of thinking from me. I still think the third episode was better so far, but the 4th one was good if your up to surprises, and yes, there were alot of surprises ^^
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I really liked this episode.
Even though it had absolutely nothing to do with the Manga, I thought it was a really good episode.
***Also, what was with the bird obbsession?***
Actually, Sakura is shown in the Manga as really loving birds.
Remember when she led little Syaoran up to the top of that building and they stood in the middle of all the birds that flew up? So I think what they are showing is that even though she no longer has her memories, her soul is the same. She doesn't have to have memories to love something. She is being drawn to what she loves even though she doesn't really know it.
I loved the scenes with Kurogane arguing and then putting Mokona in his pocket.
That was so cute!
I love listening to Fai's voice.
I did think that is was very unlikely that Arashi would for a minute leave Sakura alone. But that was really the only thing that I thought didn't fit.
Sakura seeing Touya and Yukito at the restaurant was really interesting. The way Touya looked at her and they way him and Yukito were making sure she was okay was really cool.
I also thought it was cool how Sakura met Shougo, and how she picked up a real feather because somehow she knew she needed feathers. I thought Sakura was really sweet in this episode.
The music, as always was wonderful.
Even though this series isn't like the Manga a lot of the time, I really love it.
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Before I finish the episode, just a quick comment: (no offence, :wink: )
Plot: Same point. Well....yea agreeing to Fisah's point, it was a completely pointless episode, besides showing Sakura's personality. Also, isn't she supposed to forget everthing, even her name??? lol.
Best: Mokona's part was the best :) I think thats the only thing which made me watch the entire episode..*searches for more hilarious stuff*Oh, not to forget Kurogane's too :)
Cont. later...
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Hmm... the eppie was okay... :keke:
I loved the scenes with Kurogane arguing and then putting Mokona in his pocket.
That was so cute!
Yesh that was so kawaii~ M looking forward to more Kurogane being teased :rotfl:
I find Touya weird in that eppie cuz i guess m used to the Touya teasing Sakura parts :heh:
My fav part was the part Syaoran caught Sakura before she completely fell~ :okay:
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well tis episode was ok so so... a bit kinda meaningless.... it totally different frm the manga.. a BIG difference...
the only part i like in tis epidose is kurogane putting mokona into the pocket... so cute....
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But I still can't understand...How can Sakura flying ?!?!??! then why is she cry?!?!?
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Bee Train is making some huge differences from the manga and anime, I don't mind it much but as long as they keep the differences none-too-drastic, its all good.  :heh:
The episode came off as meaningless but then again, Bee Train probably just wants to introduce to us the characters to those who haven't read the manga. ^^;Â Just a thought...
And maybe it won't turn up as only a 26 episode series, there is the TRC movie remember. They'll probably even create more episodes or OVA's. [shrugs]
Sakura can fly because of her feelings...well, she did sense Syaoran near and Syaoran sensed her so she made her way towards him. Her feelings for him guided her to him, even if her mind forgot him her body didn't.
And she probably cried because she somehow knew it was destiny to be this way. To be apart from your loved one, or maybe its the wind in her face.  :sweatdrop: The fashion show part was cute, what makes me wonder is, isn't Sakura like 14-15? Where are her certain "parts"...:shifty: XDD
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I loved it when she fell out of the sky, and Syaoran caught her! He was so gentle when he laid her down....sigh...another great S + S moment!
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I think this ep was ok... though... i wish they'd hurry up!! If they only have 24... then.. they are gonna cut it close doing 3/4 episodes in one country.....
agreeing with you entirely ruby chan.
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Episode 4:
First here are some things I liked:
The fashion show: I like the school uniform one. The last one reminded me a lot of what Chii would wear though. :sweatdrop:
Touya, Yukito and Sakura: it was really nice that Bee Train inserted this. it still shows how Touya has a link to his little sister...and Yukito being brother like.
Kurogane and Mokona: Hilarious the way Kurotan just stuck Mokona inside his pocket.
Sakura's smile: Ahhhh! Kawaii! :hello2:
Syaoran's jump: GO! GO! GO!
Song at end of Episode while Sakura was sleeping...again: Can't wait for the OST. :tongue:
Things I found weird:
No connection whatsoever to manga. Period.
Um....is the fat guy a main character here? we don't even know his name! :sweatdrop:
Waah! Sakura's flying without wings! That is just so weird. Good catch Syaoran though.
Overall: 3 and a half stars out of five. Not bad.
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Yup, this episode was good in terms of amusement, and just making you happy. I didn't hate it, I was just so, surpirsed, lol
Actually, Sakura is shown in the Manga as really loving birds.
Remember when she led little Syaoran up to the top of that building and they stood in the middle of all the birds that flew up? So I think what they are showing is that even though she no longer has her memories, her soul is the same. She doesn't have to have memories to love something. She is being drawn to what she loves even though she doesn't really know it.
OH I forgot about that, lol. Thanks for clearing that up.
I can't wait for the next episode though, Primera appears, and Fai and her fight *giddy* I really want to see that battle. Also, Sakura wakes up....again! At least I'm hoping they keep in the angst scene, that's like my favourite scene in the book, so I want to see something wonderful! ^^
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***I can't wait for the next episode though, Primera appears, and Fai and her fight *giddy* I really want to see that battle.***
I'm really looking forward to that part too!
It's one of my favorite Manga scenes.
I hope it's not super quick though, and I hope we get to see lot's of Fai's personality.
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Yup me too. Fai is one of my favourite characters, so I wanna see that too.
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Also, I can't wait till they get to the next country as well. Please let the Hashin Arc be over soon >.<
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If they keep stretching the volumes...they might not have time to show all of the chapitres...
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I'm kind of wondering if they are going to keep in the part where Syaoran sees the underwater city.
Lol, that might take up a whole episode!
I like the music that they play for each character.
Kurogane's theme music is so cool.
They sure went all out on the music.
I'm looking forward to the country with the castle and princess.
I'm also really looking forward to seeing the big doggy/big kitty part.
As long as they PLEASE leave that in!
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Kurogane's theme reminded me of the movie "pirates of the carribean"^^
I loved the music too.I cant wait till the soundtrack comes out :keke:
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Sure ^^ Everyone have their own theme ^^ and it's all great :XD: Don't know which theme I love most ><
Ah, the way Sakura speak her name is so cute >< OMG, she's judt like an angel @_@ They've successed on making her smile, don't you think ^^
Luv the sence that Sak and Shougo sitting in the moonlight ^^ but it would be super great if there's Syaoran instead of Shougo :D
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episode 4 was so good! i enjoyed it! :D i was watching it and my friends came over.. it was the part when syaoran was running to catch sakura... *sigh* if only someone would do that to me when i fall.. ahahhaha.. only dreaming! that's all.. anyhow...
i really liked that the anime is going different than the manga... sakura wakes and tries on the clothes.. which i thought was funnie..ah hahaha... because she just woke up and the first thing in her mind was to change clothes... i wouldn't have thought of that even if i was wearing something weird... well if i was nude! then yea... i'll find something to wear... but other than that.. it's not the first thing in my mind to change....
that one gang first finds sakura and takes her somewhere after eating... and then shogo however his name is spelled... i only watched the raw version... anyway! he talked to that other gang and took sakura away... i thought it was sweet how he gave his hand and sakura took it! but it was sad!! :'( ;_; cause that was NOT syaoran! i was about to cry!!
add more laters
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that one gang first finds sakura and takes her somewhere after eating... and then shogo however his name is spelled... i only watched the raw version... anyway! he talked to that other gang and took sakura away... i thought it was sweet how he gave his hand and sakura took it! but it was sad!! :'( ;_; cause that was NOT syaoran! i was about to cry!!
add more laters
Sakura helped the gang to turn over a new leaf, and the gang decides to leave Sakura's safety to Shougo, probably because they know Shougo would return her to Syaoran, but this gives Primella a new reason to be pissed off at him... heh.
About the clothes- changing, I think that is a part of her "body's" memories, where it retains an "instinct" for Sakura to do certain things that have been somewhat a routine for her in the past- eating, walking, talking, changing clothes, approaching Syaoran and grabs his hands for no apparent reason :hehe: ...
But... she can't say much, since she only has one feather, probably only enough to give her the mind of a kindergartener, cloudy- headed and lack of speech (kind of like Chii, possessing only instincts and simple movements). When she has more feathers, she'll regain some of that original Sakura persona, just wait and see!
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Episode 4 was different from the Manga, but I liked it all the same! *sparkly Tomoyo-esque eyes*
Almost too many cute moments: Mokona stuffed in Kurogane's pocket, Syaoran catching Sakura, oh! *slides to the floor in a faint*
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hello!
can anyone tell me who the man with 1 (spect) glass is? the one who is always watching Sakura from the 'magic mirror'?
im starting to love Fye! he's so gentle! kinda reminds me of Yukito from CCS..
Kurogane and Mokona are so funny together!!
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forget to add something...
mokona reminds me so much of kero when it is eating takoyaki with Kuroin...
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episode 4 is SUGOI!!.. finally a really good episode.. aww sakura's awake.. and that chubby guy isn't that bad either.. hehe
mokona is the BEST and cutest.. hehe.. AH!! it opens its eyes but kurogane just stuffed him in his shirt pocket.. i was laughing so much.. HAHA!! he just does whatever he wants with kurogane.. HAHA!! takoyaki.. haha i was like so happy when it was in the anime.. because i just recently developed a love for it.. it's so good.. mmm i want some now.. *sigh
no offense but most of the clothes that sakura tried on were all *cough ugly cough.. man.. i need to do something about that cough.. HAHA!! i like the school girl uniform the best though.. but sakura didn't wear it.. *sigh
the touya and sakura moment was so cool.. i was like aawwwwww.. haha.. and how sakura changed the chubby guy's mind on everything was really sweet too.. and how that other gang leader.. don't remember name.. was cool too showing sakura the city from a high place..
this anime is getting better actually.. hehe.. XD good job.. and the next episode looks even better YES!!
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Yes, it does look good, Fai looks so awesome, I just can't wait.
Sakura's dress didn't really suit her, she looked like a stick in it, more thin than normal >.<
I liked the school uniform too. I miss the old CCS days, where Sakura had a new outfit, every single DAY!
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i think it might be because mostly all the anime that i watch.. everyone is wearing a school uniform.. so it's weird not seeing it in an anime.. haha
fai sort of looks a bit weird in my point of view.. he's drawn badly.. AH!! i can't stand it.. hehe.. it looks like he was drawn last and was rushed.. AH!! techinally all the characters look like that.. LMAO!! man.. why couldn't other people draw tsubasa.. *sigh.. i think i only like how mokona is drew.. haha it looks like the manga.. but all the other characters are drawn poorly.. *sigh
at least the anime is getting better.. the episodes are getting better and better as week after week passes by..
ok this post is totally not about episode 4..
but i don't like how they missed mokona's eyes TWICE.. and if you read the manga.. you would know where the feather is.. haha.. and how can mokona say he had a 'dream' about the feather.. AH!! haha.. silly mokona.. but then it's kurogane's fault for just stuffing him into his shirt.. LMAO!!
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I think they spent so much time on drawing the scenery and not the characters itself. Like in ep four, the scenery was wonderful ^^, but the characters looked really weird. Sakura looked okay though, and Syaoran looked the best in all the eps. I think the artists favour characters, like they draw Syaoran so nice, and then draw Fai like crap.
But I think the eps are getting better and better, even if it was a meanigless one. I wish the original eps are as good as the fillers ^^
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hmm maybe they think that since we already should know how the original story goes.. they just do crap.. and the fillers since we don't know what's happening they make it into a masterpiece.. lolz
they only things that are in the manga in episode 4 is when that guy's kudan appeared.. and mokona and kurogane interested in takoyaki.. i think.. haha because i saw the 1st manga a LONG time ago.. so i'm not really sure.. haha
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Yup me too. I'm acutally glad they're doing fillers, just wish they were a bit better in the originals. ^^
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New, but a lover of TRC since day one, and CCS for just as long.
I was slightly disappointed with epi 4...like they need a full 22 minutes to show what Sakura's "true nature" is and then make her go right back to sleep...IMHO, totally ruins the effect of next week's episode with Sakura and Shaoran and the whole hand-holding first-thing-I-see-when-I-wake-up thing.
CLAMP is notorious for never following their own manga in the anime. And the couples never kiss. That annoys me. If I don't see Sakura and Shaoran get their mack on, I'm going to be very, VERY.....sad XP
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Hm, just to comment on the Syaoran being a superman, I totally agree :okay:
And I find it extremely annoying and cliche.
I don't find anything wrong with Bee Train's adaptation; it's more fun to get fresh storylines and such.
I made some random comments while watching the episode at my livejournal. http://www.livejournal.com/~absenceofcolor
Beware of stuff not making sense. :greengrin:
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I loved it. Best episode yet! It will lessen the impact for when she wakes but still it was pretty cool. Gave everyone a Sakura fix I think. ;)
Anyone else getting annoyed with that Love Melody song? Sure it's a good tune but that English pronunciation is terrible!
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My full review is too long so here's a blog link...
http://www.syaoran.net//BLOG/article/41/tsubasa-04-the-innocent-wanderer
and here's the summary of what I think... :D
This is the second best TC episode so far… (after the 3rd episode). I don’t mind that they’re adding new happenings in the anime cos it’s always good to see new stuff. I just think this episode sort of dragged and in the end, it only became…well, meaningless to me. I’m just not too fond of seeing Sakura acting like that. For me, this is just one of the best filler episodes I’ve ever seen. :keke:
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I enjoyed reading your blog Little Wolf!
Cool that you put in the screenshots too.
I know this is for episode four, but I just have to say I CAN'T WAIT to see episode five!!!!! I am so looking forward to seeing Fai fight with his Kudan.
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ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh episode 4 total dissapointment. That epi is like COMPLETLY diff from the manga. i was like 0.0. sakura not suppposed to wake up so fast. Sakura not supposed to fly lol. Shogo kun not supposed to be with her. Enemy gang no supposed to surrender. lol this episode is like sooooooooooooo not in the mange. sigh. o well it was still good :rotfl: :hello2:
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oohh? is it?
but i guess, in anime, they will tend to 'fast-forward' the pace..
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but who would fast forward a whole half of the book. u no what i mean
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ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh episode 4 total dissapointment. That epi is like COMPLETLY diff from the manga. i was like 0.0. sakura not suppposed to wake up so fast. Sakura not supposed to fly lol. Shogo kun not supposed to be with her. Enemy gang no supposed to surrender. lol this episode is like sooooooooooooo not in the mange. sigh. o well it was still good :rotfl: :hello2:
who says an anime has to follow a manga?
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I was... highly disappointed with this episode. It's not because it didn't follow the manga, but rather because I felt there was absolutely NO PLOT DEVELOPMENT!!! What exactly was the point of this episode? It's not needed to understand the story one bit. Such a waste of a production.... *sigh* -_-
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who says an anime has to follow a manga?
Well the manga is the story is it not. And they made it into anime right? so shoudln't they at least follow some parts of it
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who says an anime has to follow a manga?
Exactly... People have been overly critical of the anime lately. Look at CCS. I bet anything that these were the same reactions when the first episodes of the CCS anime were released. Please people. The anime never has to follow the manga in each episode. It's not just in Tsubasa. Most anime adaptations have differences from their manga counterparts as well so there's no need to whine about this in Tsubasa.
I was... highly disappointed with this episode. It's not because it didn't follow the manga, but rather because I felt there was absolutely NO PLOT DEVELOPMENT!!! What exactly was the point of this episode? It's not needed to understand the story one bit. Such a waste of a production.... *sigh* -_-
Well, this episode in my opinion basically showed us Sakura's personality (in Tsubasa). That's needed because not all people are Sakura fans who are already smart enough to know that. :D Also, it concluded what happens to the fat guy's gang. The last Hanshin episode I think won't feature them so it's best that their story is already ended on this episode. Also, there were things that needed talking about (the scene of Fai and Syaoran talking on the bench). And, Bee Train wanted to give more hints as to the whereabouts of Sakura's feather. And lastly, but most importantly, they didn't want to keep Sakura asleep in a lot of episodes. :wink:
So far, I think Bee Train has done its best to follow the manga. We're seeing more stuff that's already in the manga not the other way around. So that's a good thing. Let's just wait for more episodes to be released before criticizing it. :okay:
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okok fine. but epi 4 didn't really meet up to my expectations. i expected i guess a bit more drama and suspense. o well. ill still keep watching
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Episode 4 was totally out of the original plot of the manga. When I see it I was a little concern.
I don´t have a problem if the episodes are out of the plot of the manga (the ones to come and this particular episode) but it was an episode without sense not really sense but nothing interesting happen during the development of that chapter.
BYEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Well, this episode in my opinion basically showed us Sakura's personality (in Tsubasa). That's needed because not all people are Sakura fans who are already smart enough to know that. :D Also, it concluded what happens to the fat guy's gang. The last Hanshin episode I think won't feature them so it's best that their story is already ended on this episode. Also, there were things that needed talking about (the scene of Fai and Syaoran talking on the bench). And, Bee Train wanted to give more hints as to the whereabouts of Sakura's feather. And lastly, but most importantly, they didn't want to keep Sakura asleep in a lot of episodes. :wink:
So far, I think Bee Train has done its best to follow the manga. We're seeing more stuff that's already in the manga not the other way around. So that's a good thing. Let's just wait for more episodes to be released before criticizing it. :okay:
Hm... you make some interesting points! But... in the manga, CLAMP never really concluded what happened to the fat guy's gang, ne? And... I think people would discover what Sakura was like.
But eh. What you say makes sense too!
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well!! i liked this episode!! LOL!!! but i love and will love them ALLL!!!! heheh
but besides that fact! i thought it was coool coz SAkura was so KAWAIII!!! and the Syaoran wwasss SOOO amazing when he did that PERFECT catch!! MAN he looked COOOL!!!! SUGOII!!!!! even he's friends were like cheering! :hello2: hahah so i think its coooL!
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Well I really liked it and I was thinking about how she said her name and she wasn't supposed to remember her name yet but just think for a second who it was that she was talking to, it was her brother and I think we can all agree that she loves her brother and how many of you guys don't tell your brother the truth when he askes you a question?
I think that that part was just more to show her brother and her relationship I mean she did have what 2 feathers back at that time and she lived with her brother the longest, so even if she wasn't aware of him at the sub-con she could have known who she was talking to.
but that is just the psychologist in me talking what do I konw. lol :rotfl: :shifty:
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i just don'tt hink, she can wake up sooooooooooo fast just because of ONE feather. its a bit early even if the manga did the same thing. I need more SUSPENSE ^^. yes i agree syoaran did a magnificant catch. neway, how did sakura fly O.o well for all we know, she has no kudan yet, and is that her memories that are making her fly
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I thiak that this episode was indended for character development only. I agree completely that there was little plot, but overall the episode was enjoyable. :hello2:
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This chapter was ok, but the fact that Sakura woke up so fast disappointed me a bit.
Apart from that, I think it was a nice chapter.