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Title: Religion
Post by: monkey on April 17 2005, 03:39 pm
i was just thinking, do any of you follow a Religion ?
if so, which one ? and if not, why not ?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Sya0ran on April 17 2005, 03:41 pm
Yes, I'm a catholic.  ^^  The thing that confuses me though are Christians.  I hear people saying Catholics are the same as Christians but I also hear people saying they're not.  -_-
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Tune on April 17 2005, 03:49 pm
i'm actually buddist but i'd rather be not so i'm not~ :P free thinker~ :D i dont like being buddist coz of the incense burning and stuff, i cant stand smoke *cough~*
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: monkey on April 17 2005, 03:52 pm
Yes, I'm a catholic. ^^ The thing that confuses me though are Christians. I hear people saying Catholics are the same as Christians but I also hear people saying they're not. -_-
i think there are similarities, do you know the differences between Catholics and Christians

i'm actually buddist but i'd rather be not so i'm not~ :P free thinker~ :D i dont like being buddist coz of the incense burning and stuff, i cant stand smoke *cough~*
can't say i like incence either >.>
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Sya0ran on April 17 2005, 04:04 pm
http://www.christchurchcentral.co.uk/whatdochristiansbelieve/catholicism.html

There's an article I found that maybe you should check out.  ^^  Lazy to type.  Itss 11:00pm at night and I'm high on sugar.  No need for my parents to hear the noises coming from my room.   :shifty:  XD
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Ruby Chan on April 17 2005, 05:47 pm
I don't really follow any religion....when push comes to shove, I'm Christian because I believe in God....

But I don't pray, or go to church or anything
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Karen on April 18 2005, 12:03 am
o.o Baptist and there is a diffrence between catholic >-> lol
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Nyoko on April 18 2005, 02:23 am
I personally am an athiest, because in my mind, religon isn't realistic. But, I have nothing against Christains or Buddists or anything, it is just my personal opinion. Plus, If you are Cathlic, you are a christan. You believe in christ. The other kind of christan is protestants, like baptist and such. (I was raised christian -^^-)
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Fai D. Flowright on April 18 2005, 02:29 am
I'm a Christian and like Ruby Chan said, when someone is making fun of my faith....I do something about it. Same for friendship but that's another subject ^^
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: J-san on April 18 2005, 02:57 am
I was born Jewish myself, but I only follow some of the traditions for the benefit of my family, mostly I just believe in a mixture of things so I couldn't really name the religion I follow ^^

-Jason
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Syaokura on April 18 2005, 06:44 am
I'm Catholic, but I'm very erm... unorthodox and anti-conservative with my religion. I believe in Christ but I hardly ever read the Bible. Besides, for someone like myself, I curse. A lot.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Kasumi on April 18 2005, 10:35 am
I'm Catholic. And Catholics are christians ^^U us catholics believe not only in Christ but in the Holy Trinity, Virgin Mary the Saints, Holy Church, Bible... some christian don't believe in some of these things... ah, I can't remember my religion class right now >.<
Ahh... but I hardly read the Bible... -.- I go to church every sunday though.. and I love God with all my strength... he's just so wonderful!!! *-*

I made a research on Buddhism once and I actually do not consider it a religion but a way of life... uhm
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Mirror on April 18 2005, 11:02 am
Non practicing Christian here.^^
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Tune on April 18 2005, 11:29 am
acutally, 1/3 of my life i was practicing catholic coz the school i was in is a catholic school, i like the hymes fr time to time though...*but i have cramps sitting for too long* and the story about christ interested me quite a bit.

buddhism is much like a way of life but buddhists also believe in their gods, like the judge in hell, the buddha etc, i'm not really caught up in these though...the buddhas' names are very confusing due to the form is originated fr india...i cant even remember well. but the most famous tale of buddhism is "the journey to the west", when a monk travels to india with 3 disciples to collect scriptures & to salvage the people.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Miss Jenni-Maie on April 18 2005, 11:41 am
There is a difference between Christians and Catholics....at least when it comes to my grandma, anyways.
She's Catholic and she believes that I'm going to hell because I'm Christian (or so she thinks I am) and Christians "lazy" when it comes to God.
Err...thanks Grandma?
Well, I'm not really Christian. I'm just at that point in my life where I don't really have anything to believe in...even if I do go to church every Sunday...er...but they pay me. Haha, I look after the babies and toddlers during the service.....
The Sunday school teacher knows how I feel about religion so she's made it her life's duty to get me "more envolved" with the church, even if I don't want to.
Blah. I've got nothing against religion. In fact, I admire people with such dedication to their lord/god/beliefs. But it's just not for me.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Keroberos on April 18 2005, 12:49 pm
Religion is always such a deep topic. Many religions are branches off of each other, so they are quite the same.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Li_shaoran on April 18 2005, 01:04 pm
Christain here...if anyone wants to talk about ne thing or need anything explained id be more then happy too :P
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: monkey on April 18 2005, 07:56 pm
wow, its great to see so many people with beliefs ^^
i personally don't follow a organised religion, i prefer to believe what i want, and i feel much more free like this.

also i do have some questions about religion, i'll put them up when i get home
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Cardcaptor Takato on April 18 2005, 11:40 pm
I was raised in the church of Christ, but there are times when I wonder if Christianity is really for me.  Sometimes I feel like giving up my religion, but if I did that my family would be very angry at me, especially my grandparents who are the overly-strict "The Lord won't bless you with children if you don't go to church three times a week!" type (yes, they even said that to one of my relatives once because she didn't go to church anywhere).  If I did drop out of my church, I would have to drop out of Christianity all together because I don't think there's any other church out there I would feel comfortable going to because I was raised to believe that I shouldn't do a certain popular religious practice (which I won't mention here for the sake of on-topicness and to not offend anybody) that most other churches do, and I don't think I could ever get used to doing that if I was to convert to some other church, so religion is a confusing topic for me right now.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Ruby Chan on April 19 2005, 02:36 am
Personally, I don't really agree with religion. I think it moulds a lot of people, and often cuts off their personal development as a person, because they're given a set of rules to follow from a very young age....

But I don't have a prob with people believing in god/gods....
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Nyoko on April 19 2005, 05:21 am
Personally, I don't really agree with religion. I think it moulds a lot of people, and often cuts off their personal development as a person, because they're given a set of rules to follow from a very young age....

But I don't have a prob with people believing in god/gods....

*nods* yes... much truth...
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: monkey on April 19 2005, 05:27 am
ok, i found some questions, if anyone feels upto answering these pretty hard questions, go ahead. you can find the questions here (http://cosnett.deviantart.com/journal/3200963/)
keep in mind, these are not my questions and i don't have the same views as this person who created the questions.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Cardcaptor Takato on April 19 2005, 07:28 am
Personally, I don't really agree with religion. I think it moulds a lot of people, and often cuts off their personal development as a person, because they're given a set of rules to follow from a very young age....

But I don't have a prob with people believing in god/gods....
Um, regardless of whether a child has a religion or not, aren't most kids given a set of rules to follow at a very young age by their parents, anyway?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Li_shaoran on April 19 2005, 07:36 am
1a. What religion/denomination are you?
Christain

1b. What makes your denomination the "right" one, as compared to all other religions and denominations? Please list at least five valid reasons for your religion being the superior religion to the thousands of other religions on this Earth. (Yes, there are indeed thousands.) Provide specific instances (Yes, they can be Bible verses if you insist) showcasing the authenticity of your religion.

-First off I dont think that any religon has it completely right because we are only human and we make mistakes but I believe Christianity to be the closest because we follow straight out of the bible...or what we believe to be the inherient word of God. The bible doesnt say anything about multiple Gods or anything along those lines. Now your saying well what if I dont believe in the bible. Well let me raise another point.

Who was the first president of the United states
                            -Geoge washington right? Well how do you know? Easy...you read it out of a text book, someone recorded the events of history to be in that book just like the bible was recorded.

this question is really draining my post space so if you really wanna talk more msg me on aim

2a. If you accept the creation theory, choose one of the categories below. Please remember to identify which you chose in the text box after all of the choices:

i. If you believe that God created the Earth and the heaven exactly as the account of Genesis says, how do you explain the overwhelming scientific evidence (Earth age of 4.5 billion years (marginal error 1%); fossils found in annual layers instead of one big mush; fossil records which show the evolution of an animal; lack of water to flood entire earth; etc.) against the Genesis creation account?

*sigh* another long question....well as far as fossils go there have been many scientists that disagree with the theory of evolution for the simple reason that if we did indeed evolve from monkeys then where is the so called "missing link?" Way back when people even tried faking the discovery of the missing link but they were all exposed as false. One more point on evolution. If you can believe that the human body in all of its complexity was able to evolve from some kind of pond scum how hard is it to believe that there is a God? -point made - as far as layers of rocks and things like that go it has been proven it can take as small amount of time as 20 years of water erosion to create a rock with layers as deep as the grand canyon - also evidence that the "flood" may have caused some of these many layers in the earth that I can see from reading ahead in the questions i will be talking about later. As far as lack of water to cover the entire earth goes you have to realize that if you are going to believe in God there is a little bit of faith thats going to have to go along with that that God is all powerful and can do the "impossible." although according to the bible
                   "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26.

ii. If you believe that God created Earth and everything else arose in succession, then how do you justify the six day creation account of Genesis?
what do you mean how do i justify it? Hes God...he can make it in whatever amount of time he wants cant he? :P

well im outta "characters...ill be making another post right after this one
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Li_shaoran on April 19 2005, 07:57 am
ii. If you believe that God did indeed create heaven and Earth, but not in the literal, biblical, six day scenario, then how do you justify the story of Genesis? Do you think it's just a fable of sorts? -i believe in the six day creation

2b. If you are a religious evolutionist, choose one of the categories below. Please remember to identify which you chose in the text box after all of the choices: my opinion evolution is bull

i. How does believing evolution play into the way you view the bible? If you don't believe the account of Genesis, how does that affect your belief of other stories in the Bible? Is everything BUT Genesis true? Are some books of the Bible true and others false? If this is the case, how would one decide which are true and which are myths? *see above*

ii. If you believe the story of Genesis but conclude that after the six days, evolution has been the reason for the continuation of life, please include a verse from within Genesis alluding to this belief. Something along the lines of "And then the LORD said; Let there be evolution because I don't want to waste my time creating animals and plants for the rest of eternity" would be especially helpful. *see above

Religious Holes:
3a. Genesis tells us that on the first day, God said "Let there be light" but it isn't until the fourth day that he creates the sun that produces the light.

Well first off thats the problem with people now a days. They are willing to put there faith in people with "evidence" which is most definatly inconclusive and not put their faith in the said to be "word of God"

How do you justify this?
Well unfortunatly the bible does not give us all the answers it only tells us what we need to know. How do you justity pond scum becoming human by just sitting there? explain that an  ill be impressed

3b. How does it make you feel to know that the authors of the Bible are unknown? The U.S. Constitution, like the Bible, deals with moral rights. However, we know that the Constitution was also signed by representatives of their states, and we have thorough documented history on all of them. Knowing nothing about the authors of the Bible, how does this affect how you view the trustworthyness of the Bible? Ummmm the authors of the bible are not unknown....for the most part http://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/authors.html go there for more on that

3c. Explain why the men and women in the Bible lived such long lives --upwards of five hundred years -- while men and women today live much "shorter" lives. If you believe in creationism, you'll have to explain this without admitting to evolution.

Because they needed to? even if evolution was true the so called "monkey" ansestors would have had to live for a longgggggg time to be able to create enough population to sustain the earth. Its the same deal with people.

Bible Atrocities:
4a. Genesis 3:16 - "Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee." So because the Bible says so, women are supposed to be submissive and subservient to men. Please state your opinions on this verse and reasons why it does or doesn't pertain to today. If it doesn't pertain to today, please state who has the authority to decide matters such as these. *well for this question im outta space and will answer it in next post*
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Li_shaoran on April 19 2005, 08:23 am
*question from previous post*

OK Well....lemme use scripture to interpret scripture

"21Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.

22Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. 23For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

25Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, 27and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29After all, no one ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cares for it, just as Christ does the church-- 30for we are members of his body. 31"For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh." 32This is a profound mystery--but I am talking about Christ and the church. 33However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband." (5:21-33) Ephesians

You cant just look at one verse in the bible and say Well Well....look at this!!!  you have to read it as a whole to get it. If you treated your wife as you treated your own body would you do anything to hurt or disrespect her? *unless you are mentally ill* So the bible says Wives submit to your husbands but husbands respect your wives, problem solved.

4b. Genesis 19:8 - "Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof." So Lot wants to give away his two virgin daughters to a bunch of rapists so that the guys abstain from homosexual pleasures. Where is the honor and piety in that? Please show me... I fail to see it.

again with the twisting the words of the bible....*sigh* it makes me sad. First off if you know who lot was he wasnt the cleanist person in the world. He was a pretty sinful person. Look at where he lived, he lived in a city with prostitutes and homosexuals.although he did believe in God he didnt always make the best choices. The Bible is just telling the story of Lot at that point. If you were to hear the story of the raping of a young girl would you take that to mean that its ok to go out and rape people......i didnt think so.Once again you have to read the hole story of Lot to understand.

4c. Leviticus 19:20 - "And whosoever lieth carnally with a woman, that is a bondmaid, betrothed to an husband, and not at all redeemed, nor freedom given her; she shall be scourged; they shall not be put to death, because she was not free." So if a man rapes/has sex with a slave woman, he will be forgiven because after all... she's JUST a slave. But if he rapes/has sex with his daughter-in-law, they both will be killed. Please list what you see wrong in this passage, if anything.
The verse doesnt say she was raped, it says nothing about the man forceing the woman, the word "with" implies it was mutual. Also if you read on it goes on to say that the man is just not forgiven but he has to make a sacrifice to antone
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Li_shaoran on April 19 2005, 08:40 am
4d. Also in Leviticus, menstrating women are said to be "unclean" and then goes on to explain the punishments if a man should have sex with her. Men shouldn't even look at women when they're menstrating. (See 15:19-30) If you are female, how does this make you feel? If you are male, how does this make you feel? If you're gay, I'd ask how this makes you feel but according to the Bible homosexuality is wrong so your opinion really must not count. So sad. Im a guy first off- second off to answer this question youll have to at least asume the bible is true for a  moment. all of these things came about after the first sin. Second off its really starting to piss me off that they are twisting the words of the bible. They are giving guys a bad wrap. the same deal applies with guys except its with any kind of bodily discharge. Avoiding people sexually when these things are happening is a good idea because if you dont it can spread sickness like STDs.

4e. The Bible condemns homosexuality outright (unless, of course, you want to take a couple of virgin girls instead...). Do you agree with the Bible? If so, explain why and please include any relevant verses that might help you in your decision.  homosexuality is wrong. im gonna put this as simply as i can. can two guys or two girls make a baby? no....why?....thats not how it was meant to be. God made Adam and Eve not Adam and steve

4f. God requires burnt offerings continuously throughout the Bible. If God is perfect and sinless in all aspects, don't you think he's a little above asking for scorched goats, men, etc? (Abraham was going to kill his son because God told him to, for example... last time I checked, killing was a sin.) Please identify the reasons that God might be requiring these burnt offerings of man and if you think that because God commands it, that it's okay to do. -God had no intention of Abraham killing his son...if you recall he stopped him, this was only to test abrahams faith.

4g. Is killing okay if God commands it? If killing is not okay in any circumstance, please justify accounts in the Bible such as Sodom and Gomorrah. God killed an entire city. Is this moral?

is killing wrong in general and if not when is it ok? well God says in the bible that he gives the Government premission to fight just wars so thats ok. Sodom and Gomorrah? in my opinion that was God fighting a just war.

Lets Assume God does Exist:
5. If God is omnipresent and omnipotent, that means he exists in the entire universe simultaneously. If God created Earth at a specific point in time, do you think there's a possibility he's fumbled around with hundreds of planets just like ours and created different versions of life throughout eternity and the Universe? God can have hobbies, right? Maybe this explains the reason for the wars, poverty, and starvation on Earth -- we must be his neglected child. There must be another solar system out there with another planet with perfect beings on it, right? Yeah that's it... we must be the forgotten child; left out on the back porch in the rain.

Thats unfair.....its saying that God is a mean kid with a magnifying glass. If your assuming God does exsist then u have to believe the world was made perfect and sin ruined it for us. the person who wrote this is beginning to get on my nerves.

Next post
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Li_shaoran on April 19 2005, 08:49 am
6. Creationists criticize the Big Bang theory, saying that it's impossible for an entire Universe to appear from nothing. Let's apply this same logic to God. How is it that this white, human-in-form, male appeared from nothing? By logic, everything has a cause. God was caused by something, so what was it?

God was always exsistant....So imma slam this question right back in your face....these so called "2 particles" that collided in the big bang theory mustve been caused by something right...so tell me what was that?? id really like to know. There is a such thing as a disorgainization theory with states that if something is left alone it will not get neater but messier. So leaveing the two particles alone and just saying that they created everything is scientists disproveing themselves...ironic isnt it

7. If you are a race other than Caucasian, how does it make you feel to see God portrayed as white/olive-skinned? If you are female, how does it make you feel to see God portrayed as a male? Since God is everything perfect and sinless, does it make you feel like males are superior to females?

 If you believe in God it means you believe in the bible which means you believe God is a male because thats what he said he is. So if you believe all of this the question is stupid and pointless. I will also be the first to admit that God "Jesus" my not have been caucasian but as long as you believe that he is the same person does it really matter what people think he looks like? no one knows for sure.

8. If God is omnipresent, then he is everywhere at once, knowing all thoughts of everyone. If this is the case, then why is it necessary to walk down the block to a building with some stained glass windows and some crosses in order to know God?

Out of respect? Showing God that you care? To hear people very studied in the word help you become closer in your walk with God? pick one

next post because the next question is rather large and i need the space
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Li_shaoran on April 19 2005, 08:59 am
IN YOUR OPINION who would be admitted into heaven first:

-- A 47-year old gay atheist who died of AIDS. He had been to church as a young boy because his mother wanted him to go, but at the age of fifteen, he decided that he didn't believe what was said at church. When he went to college, he tutored high school students in math and reading. Later in life, he attended the school district meetings every month, and founded a homeless shelter. The last four years of his life, he committed himself to educating people about having safe *** so that they wouldn't have to go through what he went through with a sexually transmitted disease. He died not believing in God and was convinced that there was no heaven or hell.

-- A man who called himself a Christian but led a life full of drugs, prostitutes, and one night stands. This man went to church as a child but when he went away to college, he got hung up in the wrong crowd and started doing lines of coke. He didn't always have a steady job, but the times when he was jobless, he sold drugs to pay his rent. Later in his life, he murdered a man and was sent to death row. On the night before his execution, a priest was called into his cell. The man was genuinely sorry for everything wrong he had done in his life and wanted to repent for his sins. He did and died peacefully knowing God was with him.

Religious followers usually avoid answering questions such as this because they say that it depends on the individual. Here's two individuals with history attached. Who would make it into heaven and why? With either man, please provide passages from the Bible stating why they would or wouldn't be destined for heaven.

first one goes to hell second one goes to heaven....harsh? not really. According to the Bible there is only one unforgivable sin. Not having faith that God sent his one and only son to live, die, and forgive us all of our sins. No matter what you have done in your life As long as you are genualy sorry and repent and ask God for forgiveness he will give it to you. This doesnt mean you can go out and use this to do whatever you feel like because if you are accually a Christain then you have a desire to be like God and you will try to do the right thing.

10. Different religions believe in different versions of hell, and some of them don't believe in hell at all. The Christian hell is the most widely referred to hell. If Buddhists don't believe in the Christian hell, then what do you suppose happens to them when they die? Are they still destined for the Christian hell because they are Buddhist and don't believe in the Christian God? Are they automatically exempt from the Christian hell because they at least believe in some divine force?

  -The bible states that you need faith that the one true God sent his son to live and die for us. you cant just believe in anything. Do i believe you have to be a christain to go to heaven....no. there are plenty of other denominations that belive Jesus saved them from there sins. However there is only one hell and the bible says that if you dont believe thats where your goin. I hope I have not offended anyone with my answers. I would like to conclude wih this. Lets assume this guy was right, I die and thats the end, there is no heaven, no hell. Even so what have I lost. nothing. But if I am right and there is a God  what has he lost? eternaty in heaven, think about that.

I hope someone reads all this and comments
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: lika-chi on April 19 2005, 09:12 am
whoo li_shaoran.. you must be really free right now to post so many posts right now..

hmm religion.. haha i'm not really sure of what this topic is asking or wanting me to talk about.. but i guess it's about which religion right??

well i'm partly christian.. went to church for about 2 years with my friend.. and i'm budisium.. haha i spelt it wrong.. i know..
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: monkey on April 19 2005, 09:14 am
all i gotta say is that i'm impressed ^^ good answers *nods
when i tried to anwer them i just gave up ^^;;
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Li_shaoran on April 19 2005, 10:03 am
thx...im surprised someone took the time to read them all ^ ^
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Tune on April 19 2005, 03:28 pm
that was looong...took me a full 10 min but strikes logic here and there, only, i'm very logic-bias so i dont really believe in god...as my mom said, believing is to create confidence and such...*its too tough!! i dont understand!! FAINTS~~* i think i'll stick to my simplicity....i'm too much a simpleton
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: monkey on April 19 2005, 04:06 pm
ehe, well if i want to know answeres and / or it interests me, i'm gonna read ^^
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: scarecrow_wingz on April 19 2005, 08:02 pm
like person up there said... Catholicism is a denomination of christianity, as are baptists, anglicans, uniting chuch, evangelicals etc. they are under the umbrella of christianity because essentially they believe in the same God [so do jews and muslims but let's not go there] but they differ in the interpretation and practise of the teachings in the Bible.

i spend 2 yrs studying religion so...

i dont'r eally follow a religion. but i think the 4 noble truths and the 8fold path (from buddhism) are great teachings
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Cherry tiger on April 19 2005, 10:19 pm
Religion is a sensitive topic for me... I'm actually a very strong Catholic, but I don't want to go around proclaiming that 'this road that I have chosen is the road to salvation'. Because of where I live... I accept all religions and I believe God made them to create diversity and enable us to accept the differences in every human.

I have personally felt God, so I believe I'm on the right path. I'm sure if we all search for Him... no matter what/who/why/where/when/how... you will find Him. If you have faith.  :)

God bless!
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: monkey on April 19 2005, 10:27 pm
i dont'r eally follow a religion. but i think the 4 noble truths and the 8fold path (from buddhism) are great teachings

could you please, tell me what these 4 noble truths, and 8fold path is or are ? they sound interesting.

Religion is a sensitive topic for me... I'm actually a very strong Catholic, but I don't want to go around proclaiming that 'this road that I have chosen is the road to salvation'. Because of where I live... I accept all religions and I believe God made them to create diversity and enable us to accept the differences in every human.

I have personally felt God, so I believe I'm on the right path. I'm sure if we all search for Him... no matter what/who/why/where/when/how... you will find Him. If you have faith. :)

God bless!

thats such a nice thing to say ^^ couldn't see a better way of putting it in words than that
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Takeru on April 20 2005, 04:02 am
I'm a Catholic. Firm believer of God, and I can't express my beliefs any better than Cherry tiger.

I know I'm not a moderator, but if I catch ANY of you dissing another person's religion, I swear that I'll make sure Wolf hears about it. (Very anti-predjudiced). Religion is a very sensitive topic in a forum.

O_o Does Sakura believe in God too? I saw her doing the Father, Son, Holy Spirit thing when Eriol asked Naoko to tell them a scary story.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Ruby Chan on April 20 2005, 04:57 am
VexNet, this link explains about the four noble truths...

www.buddhanet.net/4noble.htm

And this one describes the eightfold path...

www.thebigview.com/buddhism/eightfoldpath.html

I'm not that good at explaining things, so I found these links for you
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: monkey on April 20 2005, 06:33 am
VexNet, this link explains about the four noble truths...

www.buddhanet.net/4noble.htm

And this one describes the eightfold path...

www.thebigview.com/buddhism/eightfoldpath.html

I'm not that good at explaining things, so I found these links for you

thank you ^_^ i'll check these out now.

I know I'm not a moderator, but if I catch ANY of you dissing another person's religion, I swear that I'll make sure Wolf hears about it. (Very anti-predjudiced). Religion is a very sensitive topic in a forum.

i know what you mean, i try as hard as i can to try not to offend people, but i must admit now, that i do love comdey about Religion, as long as you remmember to Not Take it Seriously !! good example is comedian George Carlin and his comedy sketch Case Against God, its truly hilarious.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Li_shaoran on April 20 2005, 08:26 am

I know I'm not a moderator, but if I catch ANY of you dissing another person's religion, I swear that I'll make sure Wolf hears about it. (Very anti-predjudiced). Religion is a very sensitive topic in a forum.


lol ease up no ones trying to offend anyone
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Miss Jenni-Maie on April 20 2005, 08:49 am
i know what you mean, i try as hard as i can to try not to offend people, but i must admit now, that i do love comdey about Religion, as long as you remmember to Not Take it Seriously !! good example is comedian George Carlin and his comedy sketch Case Against God, its truly hilarious.

I liked Bill Hicks sketches on religion, they were funny. But yeah, I don't take any of it seriously.
The same with Dane Cook (who was raised Catholic), funny stuff.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: monkey on April 20 2005, 09:43 am
I liked Bill Hicks sketches on religion, they were funny. But yeah, I don't take any of it seriously.
The same with Dane Cook (who was raised Catholic), funny stuff.

oh ... my ... god... Bill Hicks is a Genius, he was so funny !! i have loads of his shows on Mp3, its such a shame a great comedian like him had to die >.>
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Miss Jenni-Maie on April 20 2005, 09:46 am
I know! The first time I listened to him I was just like, "Wow, it would be awesome to see one of his shows."
And my brother was like, "You know he's dead, right?"
I never figured out how he died? OD'd?

Wohoe....Totally off topic.
Yeah, Religion is a serious matter and no one here should be judging/insaulting people by their religion.
There, got it back on track  :tongue3:
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: monkey on April 20 2005, 09:49 am
lol, congrats !!

but yea i know first hand, i was in the middle of a fight at school just cos some kid was making fun of another kid because he was catholic and believed in no sex before marriage, so they all teased him for that .. i think that was tottally unfair
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Miss Jenni-Maie on April 20 2005, 09:57 am
Argh! That totally makes me mad.
The same thing happened with me at my school.
You'd think that people would respect someone who has that much self control. Geez....people these days.
I just believe that you should do it when you're ready....not because everyone is.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Takeru on April 20 2005, 09:59 am
lol ease up no ones trying to offend anyone
It's not that someone already has, it's just there's a possibility that someone will.

I've had experiences with religion in other forums. Not very good ones, I might add. People start flaming each other because they're a specific religion, and some forums even ban the discussion of religion.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: D.J.P on April 20 2005, 10:01 am
Any bashing posts will be deleted, no questions asked, if you need to report a post, there is a link on the post titled 'Report to moderator'
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Takeru on April 20 2005, 10:05 am
Actually, SLi, there isn't. I think you (or Little Wolf) might have forgotten to make the option available to some of the user groups...

Edit: WHOOPS, never mind. I'm used to it being in the corner where the Modify, Delete, and Quote buttons are...
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: D.J.P on April 20 2005, 10:10 am
Yes its in an odd place, but it is there :)
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Takeru on April 20 2005, 10:26 am
Well I'll keep an eye on this thread for sure.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: monkey on April 20 2005, 08:39 pm
i'd hate for that to happen, i personally love religion, its truly fascinating. i have friends in a few different religions, my gf is christian. and i can just get into conversations for ages just talking about religion alone ^^;;
some of the religious festivals that some cultures hold seem really fun too ^^
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Cherry tiger on April 21 2005, 01:35 am
i'd hate for that to happen, i personally love religion, its truly fascinating. i have friends in a few different religions, my gf is christian. and i can just get into conversations for ages just talking about religion alone ^^;;
some of the religious festivals that some cultures hold seem really fun too ^^

Exactly why I love it! The different forms of religion I mean... you'll realise that there's so many things to celebrate about and so many great stories that come out of each religion that you can't help but admire them.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Bao_Nhia_Yang on April 21 2005, 02:58 am
i'd hate for that to happen, i personally love religion, its truly fascinating. i have friends in a few different religions, my gf is christian. and i can just get into conversations for ages just talking about religion alone ^^;;
some of the religious festivals that some cultures hold seem really fun too ^^
i can agree... tho i'm christian... i know it's interesting to learn about other religions as well...  my cousin is learning about other religions.. and we're christians..
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: monkey on April 21 2005, 03:13 am
i can agree... tho i'm christian... i know it's interesting to learn about other religions as well... my cousin is learning about other religions.. and we're christians..

yea its fine to learn about other religions if you already have one, it doesn't mean your just gonna flip and change religions, its just interesting and you can sometimes learn things by what or how they do things or by some stories
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Kasumi on April 21 2005, 11:52 am
Religion its indeed fascinating... and its a touchy topic as well... there's so many problems with it in the world >.< sometimes I think those are jsut excuses for something else

ANYWAY... I think that it's just a cultural thing. because, in the end, its the same God, no matter what, no matter how you call it, God that created us and loves us ^^

I wanna visit a Buddhist temple!!!!!
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Bao_Nhia_Yang on April 21 2005, 03:20 pm
it's interesting.... cause if you're learning about another religion... it's kinda like a challenge.... to be strong in your faith and religion not to fall for another one...
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: scarecrow_wingz on April 21 2005, 03:52 pm
a problem arises when some other person starts putting up opinions of the doctrines of what they're explaining though. that's y i studied religion for my HSC (australian leaving certificate), to learn more about different religions

religion is definately sensitive, because if you believe in a religion, clearly you adhere to it's teachings. i just wish ppl would be more open-minded and sympathetic and empathetic of each other.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: monkey on April 21 2005, 06:02 pm
i just wish ppl would be more open-minded and sympathetic and empathetic of each other.

isnt that part of the teachings anyway
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Takeru on April 22 2005, 01:36 pm
Not entirely. Not every religion promotes peace and unity amongst everyone. (Unless I'm very well mistaken)
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: scarecrow_wingz on April 22 2005, 09:43 pm
that's true. christianity...actually doesn't preach that
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Kay Hearts on April 22 2005, 09:49 pm
I consider myself a liberal catholic. I mean, I was raised as a catholic but have some ideas that differ from those of this religion a bit.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: looney on May 29 2005, 02:06 pm
I'm catholic too. i love my religion. it's so strict free. unless you want to do something immoral
then it's bad. all you have to do is follow the 10 commandments, and then the 6 holy days. or is it 10
not sure. Then that's it.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Bao_Nhia_Yang on May 29 2005, 04:20 pm
i heard that catholic is more strict than the christian religion?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: monkey on May 29 2005, 05:17 pm
i believe it is.. from what i've heard Catholic seems kinda strict
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Bao_Nhia_Yang on May 29 2005, 06:19 pm
does anyone know how? besides that the priest can't have children <-- that's the only thing i've heard...
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: ranpyon_gals on May 29 2005, 06:19 pm
im a muslim :)
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: looney on May 30 2005, 07:38 am
Ok here's how it is
Catholic priest can't have sex or kids.
They can get married but nothing else because the are representing god.
But Catholics are very easy going.
You can do whatevr you want just don't put the lords name in vain and go to church.
Of course you don't have to go. Cuz i haven't gone to church in like 2 years.
So i don't think it's strict.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Bao_Nhia_Yang on May 30 2005, 03:53 pm
oh.. i kinda get it now.. even if you don't go to church.. you're still consider a catholic? is it like someone who's not a strong catholic.. falling away.. or is it still consider catholic period?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: looney on May 31 2005, 05:09 am
As long as you believe in saint then your still considered a catholic
Like my aunt she hasn't gone to church in 20 years but she still prays and believes so she's still catholic. The one thing i don't like is confession
they're embarrasing.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Bao_Nhia_Yang on May 31 2005, 04:13 pm
pst! what's confession? is that in the catholic religion only?

sorry if i'm asking so much questions.. i can stop if you want me too..
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Miss Jenni-Maie on May 31 2005, 04:50 pm
Confession is pretty much what it sounds like you confess your sins.
I don't know exactly how it goes, since the only times I've seen a Confessional boxy thingy was in the movies...and you can never believe what you see in the movies....
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: looney on June 01 2005, 11:41 am
No actually you have it right.( And it's ok if you ask questions i don't mind.)
You confess your sins (if you have any) or you talk about your problems openly  to the priest. the tell you how many prayers or "hail mary's" to say depending on the actions of your sins. then they give you the bread ( which is this small round thing) and they give you liquior. representing the body and blood of christ. The liquior is really good^_^.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: kiri on June 01 2005, 12:30 pm
i heard that catholic is more strict than the christian religion?
Catholicism is a part of Christianity, they are not two separate things.

I never knew there were so many Christians here. I'm one myself.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: looney on June 01 2005, 12:34 pm
yes that is true good job.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Dark_Card on June 02 2005, 06:15 am
well I love discusing religion, its one of my favorite topics. I've studied other relgions my whole life! so I know quite a bit about different religions and I'd love to more so this is great! I'm also glad that it hasn't turned into one big fight yet! there always seems to be someone that doesn't like someone for something ya know.

I a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (what a mouth full!) A.K.A a Mormon.
I hope that doesn't bother anyone. I've gotten quite a lot of flames for it on forums in the past!
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: monkey on June 02 2005, 06:27 am
well we hope to not get any flamers for any religions here, its an open - friendly topic here.
but i already know a few mormons anyway ^^ its always good to see people with faith :keke:
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: monkey on June 02 2005, 06:35 am
Yup...although I'm not a major follower of religion, I find it incredibly aggravating when people insult people's faith - whether they're Christian, Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist or anything else.

i think the people who are like that are normally very small minded and totally biased. we should stay away from them.

my faith, i think i said earlier, is i just go by what i want to believe (i don't particuly enjoy being in a organised religion)
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: looney on June 02 2005, 12:22 pm
UUUUHHHHH
what's a mormon?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Miss Jenni-Maie on June 02 2005, 12:29 pm
I don't know either [is clueless of everything]
 But I personally couldn't handle being in an organized religion either, VexNet...too organized.
I have faith in myself...that's enough for me.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: monkey on June 02 2005, 12:41 pm
http://www.mormon.org/

all the information for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints

... now read... and enjoy :keke:
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Dark_Card on June 02 2005, 12:46 pm
well Mormons Believe in Jesus Christ and have a lot of styreotypes attached to them. theres over 12 million of us all over the world and last time I checked (which was a few years ago) we're the second fastest growing religion I think the first would be the Jewish religion.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: looney on June 02 2005, 12:48 pm
Well good for you. that's great and thank you
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Eriol on June 04 2005, 12:27 pm
Oh well!!!I just a simple Catholic and even my family members but only 1 got changed his religion that only believe also in one God!!
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: looney on June 09 2005, 12:53 pm
Well that his opinion. My cousin changed religion too. oh well everyone has their own opinion
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: looney on June 19 2005, 09:41 am
oh one more thing our religion id the only one that does exorcism.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: jovi206 on June 19 2005, 01:47 pm
I'm a christian too. A presbyterian really. However in my country there are three major types of religion HIndu , muslim and christian. We all kinda have to tolerate each other to live peacefully so i know a great deal of all three religions as well as others and to me they all have the same basic principles so it does not matter to me. I went to a hindu elementary school, my father is a muslim and i'm now in a presbyterian high school. One could say i was well grounded.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Jas-chan on June 20 2005, 10:11 am
I am Christian , Evangelist , but my parents sent me to a Catholic school. At school we have religion class, very intresting learning about the Catholic faith. Social Studies is where we learned about other religions, and world history
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Okamirei on June 20 2005, 12:54 pm
sorry, I'm an antheist...I don't really have a religion  :sweatdrop:
my relatives are buddhists though...does that make me a buddhist?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: looney on June 20 2005, 12:58 pm
i doudt it hey speaking of that one of my friend was that
i never knew what it meant cuz she never really talked about it.
that's cool though.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: monkey on June 20 2005, 10:41 pm
Atheists actually don't believe in god at all. so if you don't believe in god then your an Atheist.. i'm not part of any Religion (and i refuse to be in any) but i don't not believe in god so i'm not an Atheist even tho i don't have a religion.
if anything i probably lean a bit towards Christianity. but i really do not want to be part of any organised religion. i'll go by on my own way :D
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: looney on June 25 2005, 11:46 am
man oyou sound like a rebel
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Bao_Nhia_Yang on June 25 2005, 06:45 pm
Atheists actually don't believe in god at all. so if you don't believe in god then your an Atheist.. i'm not part of any Religion (and i refuse to be in any) but i don't not believe in god so i'm not an Atheist even tho i don't have a religion.
if anything i probably lean a bit towards Christianity. but i really do not want to be part of any organised religion. i'll go by on my own way :D
whoa.. that sounded confusing.. :?.. ahhaha
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: monkey on June 26 2005, 02:38 am
whoa.. that sounded confusing.. :?.. ahhaha
oh, how so ?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Okamirei on June 26 2005, 03:14 am
I'm not quite sure what I believe in now... :sweatdrop: I guess I'm a 1/2 antheist?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: monkey on June 26 2005, 04:21 am
you can be Agnostic. it is generally taken that agnostics neither believe nor disbelieve in God, it is possible to be a theist or atheist in addition to an agnostic. Agnostics don't believe it is possible to prove the existence of God (nor lack thereof).

Agnosticism is a philosophy that God's existence cannot be proven. Some say it is possible to be agnostic and follow a religion; however, one cannot be a devout believer if he or she does not truly believe.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Miss Jenni-Maie on June 26 2005, 05:18 am
I guess I'm agnostic then, haha.
Because, like Okamirei, I don't know what to believe in anymore.
I used to be Christian, but then I just sorta drifted out of that...I don't know what to think anymore.
The only faith I really have right now is in myself.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: S:a:k:u:r:a on June 26 2005, 07:33 am
Well i'm actually Protestant...but i wish to be Catholic..though i'd prefer not to provide the reasons why.. o.o;
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: monkey on June 26 2005, 08:03 am
Well i'm actually Protestant...but i wish to be Catholic..though i'd prefer not to provide the reasons why.. o.o;

if you want to be a catholic why can't you just change and become one, surely you can't be forced to be a Protestent
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: looney on June 26 2005, 08:15 am
that's true.
i don't know i'm into my religion because we have such strong beliefs in saint and
stuff like that. i mean i'm Mexican and we mostly believe in The virgin Mary as much as we belive
in God.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: S:a:k:u:r:a on June 27 2005, 02:33 am
if you want to be a catholic why can't you just change and become one, surely you can't be forced to be a Protestent

-Because i'm not exactly getting any help/support on the issue..and apparently it isn't that simple...
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: monkey on June 27 2005, 07:08 am
well if they are your beliefs, nobody should force anything upon you. just do what your heart tells you. if you no longer want to be a protestant tell someone and ask them what you can do from there.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: moezychan on July 04 2005, 01:05 pm
I was born and raised in a Catholic home and my parents made sure I knew and understood the word of the lord, but up until this past year, I didn't find much joy in learning about God or attending Church.  I actually considered giving up on God, and for that matter on life, but I attend college and I changed my major last year from Business to Early Childhood Education.  I wanted to become an elementary teacher.

One of the nuns at my church was also a teacher and she said she would help me and one of the ways she helped me was by helping me become a Catechist teacher.  I would assist her and on occasion teach a lesson.  By doing this, my faith in the Catholic church grew, along with the faith in myself!  I still go to church and I teach Catechism, and I love it!  In my personal opinion, nothing feels better than having a child love you and put their complete faith in you.  Turned my life around for the better.  And for this reason, I love my religion and I love God!
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Kyle Rondart on July 05 2005, 02:44 am
I choose not to have a religion due to the fact that there are things in the Holy Bible I don't agree with. I do believe in a higher power just not sure what it is.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Okamirei on July 06 2005, 07:07 am
there was this one car I saw yesterday...it had two bumper stickers...one said "born antheist again" and the other "thank God I'm english"

?? o.O; If you're an antheist, how can you thank God?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: looney on July 06 2005, 07:59 am
Maybe it' they don't realize it's a contradiction.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: monkey on July 06 2005, 08:31 am
no. its called Sarcasm !!
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: cloud on July 06 2005, 12:32 pm
me i have no Religion. im neutal
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: rukia on November 10 2005, 12:08 am
well if they are your beliefs, nobody should force anything upon you. just do what your heart tells you. if you no longer want to be a protestant tell someone and ask them what you can do from there.
I so agree...everyone has their own beliefs and morals so you should just follow your heart and not get influenced by others if its against you beliefs
=) i think all relegions are good and i WISH everyone in the world believed that: there's nothing wrong with muslims, christians, buddhists, atheists (my friend's one and she can be convincing) or any other relegion, with me?
 i believe in Allah but hey that's me =)
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: monkey on November 10 2005, 11:23 am
did i say this? I Think if anything, I'm a hopeful Agnostic
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: moezychan on November 10 2005, 11:25 am
did i say this? I Think if anything, I'm a hopeful Agnostic

What's an Agnostic?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: monkey on November 10 2005, 12:30 pm
my fav Definition of an Agnostic:

An agnostic is a person who believes that the existence of a greater power, such as a god, cannot be proven or disproved; therefore an agnostic wallows in the complexity of the existence of higher beings.

Agnostics on religion (Christianity, Islam, Buddhists, etc): Religious zealots are often viewed as ignorant by agnostics’ because of their blind following of a supreme being which may or may not exist. Agnostics will often question the existence of a supreme power because a lot of modern religious beliefs have no basis in modern logic; therefore blind following of popular religions is viewed as an easy out for people who chose not to think for themselves.

Agnostics on atheism: On the other end of the spectrum, unlike atheists, an agnostic uses a more scientific approach to their belief system. An agnostic knows that just because there is no physical proof of the existence of a higher being, it dose not automatically mean that one does not exist. An agnostic views an atheist on the same plane as a religious zealot; often because the belief that human beings are the pinnacle of intelligence and there are few things that we do not or have the potential to understand.

The realization of knowing that “we cannot know everything” is the backbone of the agnostic belief.

Christian Zealot: God loves you and everyone. He will save you
Agnostic: Prove it.

Athiest: There is no way that a god can exist.
Agnostic: Prove it.


In Short: Someone who is not arrogant enough to think they KNOW whether God exists or not.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: moezychan on November 10 2005, 02:04 pm
Good definition. Thank you.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: rukia on November 11 2005, 01:31 am
did i say this? I Think if anything, I'm a hopeful Agnostic
well, never heard of an agnostic before but your definition clears it up.

An agnostic is a person who believes that the existence of a greater power, such as a god, cannot be proven or disproved; therefore an agnostic wallows in the complexity of the existence of higher beings.

so is it kind of a mix of everything?
sounds
The realization of knowing that “we cannot know everything” is the backbone of the agnostic belief.

I like that: we cannot know everything - i agree. well i don't have anything else to say...so...see ya =)
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Starmy on November 11 2005, 04:08 pm
I study all religions, but essentially I don't believe in forms, or limits in life. I also don't believe that there is
any salvation for a person except for their own search for truth in life.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Jen on November 13 2005, 10:27 am
Umm.... there are different types of Christains. Catholic is one of them. I am a Presbyterain another type of Christian.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: SasukeRocks on November 13 2005, 10:29 am
Not really at the moment.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: LSD on November 13 2005, 02:47 pm
ok i don't consider myself in any realigion and i don't like crurches.
but is enough for me to believe in god,
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: kamisari on November 13 2005, 08:50 pm
im a member of Church of Christ, if any one would like to ask a question about this religion, im more than willing to answer...i love my religion...

~.~
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Director of Music on November 29 2005, 09:41 am
Im not in any religion...For the life after death question...I dont really there's any after life...I just think..well to say frankly...we get buried, and then we well...rot...its really science.  Not pleasant..but thats how I see it.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Seto Kaiba on November 29 2005, 09:46 am
I agree.
In fact thats exactly what I said.  *raises eyebrows and smirks*  Whatever.  The fact is, there is no after life.  Im a man of science, and just like Tiffany said above,we rot. Simple, not pleasant, but thats life.  But thats what I believe, so dont come and yell in my face that I dont believe in blahblahblah that crap.  -.-
~Seto Kaiba
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: suu_no_clover on November 30 2005, 03:33 pm
I'm catholic, in theory... But I believe in many things my church does not.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Kuro-puppy on November 30 2005, 06:56 pm
catholic but i don't believe in god or anything
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: monkey on November 30 2005, 11:55 pm
catholic but i don't believe in god or anything
If you don't believe in God, How on earth are you catholic ?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: moezychan on December 01 2005, 02:59 am
If you don't believe in God, How on earth are you catholic ?

I was wondering the same thing. I'm Catholic, and I definately believe in God.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: sugahcat on December 01 2005, 04:50 am
I'm Pagan with strong interests in Buddhism, Shinto and Humanism.

BTW - I have a scientific degree and I find it hard to believe that death is 'the end' since energy cannot be destroyed. Reincarnation is the form of afterlife I lean toward most, but meh, we'll all find out sooner or later :)
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: moezychan on December 01 2005, 04:55 am
BTW - I have a scientific degree and I find it hard to believe that death is 'the end' since energy cannot be destroyed.

Very true. Excellent description. As for me, I lean towards life in another kingdom; heaven, but we're all entitled to our own beliefs.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: monkey on December 01 2005, 04:56 am
Kuro - Puppy.
Do you mean you follow the same Morals as Catholics But not the GOD aspects of it?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: sugahcat on December 01 2005, 05:34 am
Very true. Excellent description. As for me, I lean towards life in another kingdom; heaven, but we're all entitled to our own beliefs.

Also true! And since the other part of my degree was Philosophy of Science, I will point out that we only 'know' that energy cannot be destroyed because we believe what the scientists tell us... xD
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: moezychan on December 01 2005, 08:16 am
Also true! And since the other part of my degree was Philosophy of Science, I will point out that we only 'know' that energy cannot be destroyed because we believe what the scientists tell us... xD

Very insightful! I'm going to enjoy talking to you! I love all the members here, but there are not many that I can have an indepth philosophical debate with! We need to continue this!
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Kuro-puppy on December 01 2005, 09:52 pm
Kuro - Puppy.
Do you mean you follow the same Morals as Catholics But not the GOD aspects of it?

i don't believe in god, i know basically nothing about being catholic but according to my mother i'm an catholic although i don't understand why *so confused* :confused:
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: moezychan on December 02 2005, 01:58 am
i don't believe in god, i know basically nothing about being catholic but according to my mother i'm an catholic although i don't understand why *so confused* :confused:

Oh, I understand now. You're Catholic for the sole reason that you were told that you were. Have you ever been baptized? If you haven't then you really aren't Catholic. You can't become a part of the church until you're baptized.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: sugahcat on December 02 2005, 08:57 am
Very insightful! I'm going to enjoy talking to you! I love all the members here, but there are not many that I can have an indepth philosophical debate with! We need to continue this!

Sounds like a plan :D I've been meaning to brush up on philosophy for a while now...
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: monkey on December 02 2005, 09:40 am
*sighs with a grr*

well...

Kuro, You can't be told what religion you are, You have to make up your own mind about it. If you don't believe in God then you can't be a catholic since that kinda requires you to believe in God.

and bah, Philosophy, Obviously someones being ignored.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: moezychan on December 02 2005, 10:39 am
Sounds like a plan :D I've been meaning to brush up on philosophy for a while now...

Certainly does! Do you want to start or should I?

and bah, Philosophy, Obviously someones being ignored.

What's that supposed to mean?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: sugahcat on December 02 2005, 10:39 am
and bah, Philosophy, Obviously someones being ignored.

Eh?

But yes. You can't be told what religion you are - it's something you have to look into yourself. Search deep inside and all that jazz :) But you shouldn't feel you have to follow a religion just because someone tells you to. It's a personal choice but obviously, depending on how old you are you have to listen to your parents on certain matters.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: moezychan on December 02 2005, 11:00 am
But yes. You can't be told what religion you are - it's something you have to look into yourself. Search deep inside and all that jazz :) But you shouldn't feel you have to follow a religion just because someone tells you to. It's a personal choice but obviously, depending on how old you are you have to listen to your parents on certain matters.

Very true. I used to think that I was Catholic also because my mom said I was. I didn't even like going to church. The only reason I went to church was because my mom told me that I would go to Hell if I didn't.

I became a true Catholic a little over a year ago. I found what I wanted out of life when I knew what major I wanted; I wanted to become a teacher, and a nun at my church helped me to get a position as a Catechist teacher for Sunday school. After that happened, I found God and I've never been happier.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Kuro-puppy on December 02 2005, 04:27 pm
hmm, i'm not  a catholic...

oh well i'll just stick to my own madeup religion, it works for me *ducks* :sweatdrop:

"live your life to the fullest with respect for others and no regrets" 
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Sabrina on December 02 2005, 05:08 pm
I'm christianity, but I have been thinking about that when I'm 18 maybe Ipart away from church (and christianity)...Why? Well, this God and Jesus-thing is little bit difficult matter like " believe or not"....
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Ralea on December 02 2005, 06:49 pm
I'm a Christian...not exactly Catholic, but I'm Born-again.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Time-Machine on December 08 2005, 03:58 pm
And since the other part of my degree was Philosophy of Science, I will point out that we only 'know' that energy cannot be destroyed because we believe what the scientists tell us... xD

True true! We had a period in Sociology where we focused on the "listen to the scientist" power that seems so forceful in America, and worldwide, and then we focused on what "science" is and found out the scientists couldn't even define "science" and most "facts" are very subjective, no matter how scientific they are.

In the end you just don't know what to believe. Which is why I think I'm okay with religion, because you kind of trust what feels right to you, and what you think will help you the most. It's more based on your heart, and I think you can trust that more than science sometimes (not all the time, science is very useful, and I'm not trying to deny basic knowledge like the sky being blue, though that does lead to the question, Is my blue the same as your blue?)

Personally, I'm a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Mormon) like Dark_card. There was a time in middle school where I kind of jumped from religion to religion, seeing which ones had the most continuity, which ones promoted what seemed to me to be the most logical ideals, and which ones felt right, and Mormon is kind of where I landed, which is good because my parents are Mormon and would have been "very disappointed in me" if I had left the church...

Personally, it's kind of a relief to come to a board where people don't know what Mormons are. I've gotten so much grief for it during my years (I think the first time I was told I was going to hell because of my religion was when I was six, and it was one of my friend's mothers >.<)
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Jeannette on December 08 2005, 04:15 pm
I'm a Christian and a Quaker, and proud to claim such, despite the fact that many who also claim the titles might be a bit hesitant to embrace me, due to my sexual orientation. Despite my commitment and belief in my religion, I am very willing to talk and debate all day long, and I admit that there is plenty I don't know and will never know.

And don't feel too awful, TimeMachine... As a Quaker, I'm at pretty much the exact opposite side of the continuum of Christian beliefs as you, but I get strange questions about my religion all the time. I don't know -how- many times I've been asked why I don't wear a bonnet and drive a horse and buggy. So many people think we're some tiny little cult. A lot of times, people mistake us for Shakers, that group that doesn't have sex... ever. Um... We quite enjoy sex, thank you very much. And no, we don't get royalties from the Quaker Oats company, unfortunately. Neither do we dress like the guy on the oatmeal box.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Time-Machine on December 09 2005, 04:01 am
I LOVE QUAKERS!!!

There are a couple religions, not to generalize or anything, but there are a couple religions that are just cool and misunderstood enough that I tend to really connect to them (because I have been misunderstood for religion all my life ^_^; ), that includes Judaism and Quakers. Every Quaker or Jew I have met, I've really gotten along with. Now, there might be exceptions in the future, and I'm definitly not going to immediately like or hate someone because of their religion.

That being said, the Quaker religion makes me smile.  YAY FOR QUAKERS!

I also enjoy going to Unitarian services. They're really cool and informative.

lol, I've been to too many different churches, I think.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: sugahcat on December 09 2005, 07:37 am
Certainly does! Do you want to start or should I?

I'll let you start, lol xD
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Jeannette on December 09 2005, 07:41 am
LOL. Thanks for your support, TimeMachine. Personally, I love my Quaker heritage. And it really is uncomfortable to have your religion misunderstood. Once, my cousin's history teacher said that there were no more Quakers in the world, and the teacher absolutely -refused- to believe my cousin when she said that there were, in fact, Quakers left in the world and that she was one of them.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Time-Machine on December 09 2005, 10:13 am
Once, my cousin's history teacher said that there were no more Quakers in the world, and the teacher absolutely -refused- to believe my cousin when she said that there were, in fact, Quakers left in the world and that she was one of them.

Lol, that's sad. My teacher refused to believe me when I said that the Mormons left Missouri because the Governor had made it legal to kill any Mormon on the spot, and not just because they were crazy cultists who thought it would be good idea to leave for the west in the middle of January.

Speaking of which, did you know there are still Wobblies? I thought the whole anarchist violent overthrow of the government thing had kind of puffed out, but apparently Wobblies are still pretty prominent in places like Oregon.

But that's kind of off topic, huh?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: ~Bloody_Rose~ on December 20 2005, 02:03 pm
Im an atheist... OH!! PLEASE DON't THINK OF ME AS A WEIRDO!!! i juz can't force myself to belive God
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Meza on December 23 2005, 03:59 am
I don't have any clue which church I'm in. That's pretty.. uh.. weird for a person who has gone through confirmation class and first (and last) confession several years ago, eh? XD

Religion has never played any role in my life.
I don't know any religious ppl in my family - not even a single one.
And I went for that confirmation thing only for money. Aaaw, I have no shame.

Uh.. yar not gonna believe. I was chatting with Sabrina just a moment ago for a long time just to know what church we are in. So,  it seems like we are Christians. ^^;
And I think I'll leave the church when I'm adult. I just dont wanna pay tax for church T_T'

So, so, I don't really have any faith in these official religions - and not in the unofficial either. But I DO believe in soul and rebirth - in my own way. And I do believe there's somekinda greater force, but I don't believe it as a person or anything like that.  And I do believe in separated souls. And by that I mean there's possibility that there's another me, my soul, living same time as I am.

It was yesterday, when I last though about life as it is.. at brigde. And I actually do think all live is a needless game, it would be so much easier if nothing would exist.

But yeah, only my thoughts, no one should get offended. -_-'
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: ~Bloody_Rose~ on December 26 2005, 10:18 am
maybe you're an atheist as well, Meza-chan... do you believe that there's a god or something like that?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: tsukihime on January 06 2006, 10:19 pm
haha! as always -=kuro_woof=-, your always the offensive type!!! Anyway, my religion is Iglesia ni Kristo
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Sarah Jane on January 08 2006, 02:52 pm
I don't have a religion, yet I don't consider myself Athiest.
I can't really back that up, but I'm not changing what I say.
I suppose that the only thing I can say in my defence, hehe...
Is that I have so many beliefs, that I couldn't just belong in one.
Also, I think that some of my beliefs are contradicting.
And another thing... if you believe in something...
I don't see why you can't necessarily just believe in it in a small group.
Or something like that... why do you need to join a mass amount of people.
And yes, I do know that my previous sentence might sound odd,
So I'll follow it up with, that I know that it does make sense to join a larger 'group' and stuff.
~ I respect that people have a religion.
But sometimes it's overwhelming for people like me who don't have one.
Such as going to a Catholic wedding or something.
I'm not used to it.
Going to church too, I just can't believe in what I am hearing.
Plus, one time I was forced to go to church ( long story ) and I didn't like it.

You're probably wondering what I do and do not believe in... so here you are:

Animal and human reincarnation.
I don't believe in 'God' but a higher power. ( I shall not say anything else about it. )
Spirits. - Not necessarily... ghosts.
Something more than meets the eye.
I don't believe in extra-terrestrials either.


And some other things that I can't think of at the moment. ^^;
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: LSD on January 12 2006, 06:06 am
i belive in aliens ^^
there are so many planets.. i can't belive earth is the only one with live of it
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Time-Machine on January 12 2006, 10:06 am
I believe in aliens, too!!!

Though I'm not sure I believe they've made it anywhere near earth. The whole abduction thing is a little beyond what I think is probable, though I will not say it's impossible.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: MichelleSV on January 26 2006, 02:28 pm
I am a christian I do believe in God....=kuro_woof=- have u ever been to a church? IF u have did u ever see when the pastor or somebody is praying for someone then all of a sudden they start to scream talking in weird language...i mean when i see that i am always happy becuz there in Gods presense....Doesn't that give u just a little bit of...proof...that there is a God????
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: ~Bloody_Rose~ on January 27 2006, 06:49 pm
Well, Anyone can shout right? and in weird language too. And the proof im trying to find is if there's really a god. I have to see a proof that he exist. not the ancient writings and the bible thing. I want to see the real thing. Please don't argue with me. We have all different beliefs in life
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Crystal_Wings on January 27 2006, 07:18 pm
Hopefully there won't be any arguing. We should all respect each other's beliefs. =kuro_woof= I understand your need to see proof. No offense to anyone, but I don't think talking in a weird language is proof. Anyone can fake that. You just Keep looking, maybe you'll find what you're looking for.

TimeMachine, I figured you were a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints when I read about your "heart attack" when you were talking about how you got your name. I don't know any other people who do "heart attacks" besides Mormons. I believe in aliens too, but I don't think they're around earth.

I hope everyone can get along here.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Wolf Blossom on February 10 2006, 09:03 am
I guess i am a Christian....well i dunno i...I go to curch and everything but i feel like i am forced to...There is this winter camp and every youth person is going i didn't want to go...but my mom is making me go....there is this singing group for church i didn't want to be in it...my parents say that i should go i said i didn't want to and they told me the reason i don't want to is becuz i don't love God...I do i really do its just i want to get close to him not by my parents i wanna find him not be forced...you get me? i feel like i don't want to be becuz wel i am getting forved to =< i dunno what to do.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Ando on February 10 2006, 08:54 pm
Wolf Blossom, my advice would be to tell your parents how you feel. They should be able to understand that you need to sort out your beliefs on your own, without them forcing you. Good luck!

As for me, I was raised in a mix between Lutherian Protestantism and New Age (and alittle atheism to go with that). Go figure. Today I am an agnostic: considering all cultures through history have had their own gods in order to explain what was then unexplainable - such as where do babies come from and what's with these really huge bones we've found in the ground - I can't see why any of them would be correct. I could cope with there being some kind of creating force, but I don't see why that force would care whether we attend church or not and suchlike. Religion is responsible for alot of bad things, but I don't mind it as long as it makes people happy and allows them to believe in a meaning with their existence.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: AirKitty on June 09 2006, 11:15 am
Personallly i'm Christian, i go to a Ctholic school and i go to church there ( also we have to say a prayer before every subject, but its only like 2 seconds) so i don't go to church on Sundsays. i pray regulary and strongly believe in god, but i do add some stuff to my own beliefs. I like to mix science and religion , and love to use science to prove religion , so much fun to see my mom's face, ne? heheh...