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suu_no_clover:
I stand by my statement about that forum, though I haven't been around very long. ^^; They have been nothing but welcoming - a nice change of pace, really.

Sorry, again, for going off-topic.

Cherry tiger:
I'm going to give another perspective for the people on tsubasachronicle.net, cause the one whom Kjesta quoted is actually very nice... When she claimed she was homophobic, what she meant was she really isn't into shounen ai or shoujo ai. In that sense, I don't think there's anything wrong... they all have their own preferences, and besides... she never really bashed KuroFye because they're shounen-ai, she just didn't prefer them. In fact, I don't remember that particualr person claiming, (like all the other weird members there as well) that KuroFye can't be gay or KuroFye must not happen and all that kind of stuff. It's her prefernce and she doesn't prefer it.

I know that people must be open minded, especially seeing as CLAMP is very open about this. But who are we to force people? We should be able to show that we do have open mindedness and not only does shounen-ai not bother us, it's also quite interesting. Someday, I do hope she sees that shounen or shoujo ai is not that bad... but until then, telling people off or insulting them especially in a different forum is actually rather mean. I'm sorry, but I thought quoting her from there was a bit too much, especially since she isn't one of those who say KuroFye can't be together. She may support KuroTomo and go crazy over small little KuroTomo things and tends to put it into people's faces... but she has never said KuroFye cannot be together (even though she cannot see the pairing as possible, she has never bashed them). So I think it's wrong to judge people without really knowing them well.

If you want to talk about judging forums, I might say I judged this forum as well. But that's going off topic... what I'm trying to say that you shouldn't judge people for what they think and like, unless you really know them. I feel really sorry for her, seeing that people have been taking her statements the wrong way. That board really isn't that bad... there are quite a few KuroFye fans still there who continue to root for their favourite coupling and I applaud them for bearing with the crazy real homophobic people.

mela:
You may say all that, Cherry Tiger, but at the end of the day that person made comments that will offend people. It's all good and dandy that it is her opinion, that isn't going to stop people from getting mad about it. Personally I find it really sad that in this day an age people still make comments like that. When you take away the language barrier and all that, shounen-ai and shoujo-ai still boils down to gay and lesbian. This isn't even about KF or her not liking the pairing or whatever. It's about her making comments that even though might not have meant them, were still put out there and they hurt others.

Point is, people are going to interpret things in different ways, which is why things should always be thought out before you say them. Especially when you are saying things that might offend and hurt other people.

Zettai daijoubu:

--- Quote from: Jeannette on August 27 2006, 03:30 pm ---Yeah, actually. Whether something is canon or not is a fact. Whether something is boring is an objective opinion. And I've seen plenty there. Please, let's not start this again.

--- End quote ---

why are we talking about tsubasachronicle.net when this is CapturedWings!!! and yes i agree with Jeannette.. please don't this again..

SS of KF is a matter of our own preference neither is threatening either.. so please don't get too upset if others do not prefer what you prefer or neither should you 'attack' the other 'camp'..

Rekall:

--- Quote from: mela on August 27 2006, 03:39 pm ---S/S fans have had pretty much the entire manga (and a whole OTHER manga) dedicated to their relationship while K/F have taken the backseat. Now that K/F is taking more of a prominent position for the time being, people are going to be excited and want to talk about it more than they will about S/S.
--- End quote ---

I agree.  I think in part S/S is suffering from over exposure. I mean they just spent 120+ chapters of TRC together and they spent most of CCS together as well (which was 12 volumes but I can't remember right now in what volume Syaoran showed up).  Plus a lot of time has passed since they met in CCS and now.  Fans have filled that time with fanfics, fanarts and analying their relationship, so I can understand why a lot of CLAMP fans are now getting bored with that pairing.

KuroFai on the other hand is fresh and new but I can pretty much guarantee if they had their own series after TRC and another new couple appeared, the new couple would be more popular because we've already seen KuroFai.  Even my own CLAMP OTP  is starting to lose ground with me to KuroFai because there's so much going on with them right now in the story and if you want to get technical about TRC pairings I was originally more of a Ashura/Fai fan.

With regards to the homophobic comment it doesn't matter if the person is nice or not.  Admitting to be a homophobe and seeing nothing wrong with being one is not okay.

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