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selenityshiroi:
--- Quote from: Rekall on July 04 2006, 12:58 pm ---I read somewhere that at AX CLAMP said that all the non-fantasy ones take place in the same universe.
I can't remember which AX write up that was in though. >_<
Legal Drug and xxxHolic definitely take place in the same universe and it's implied that CCS does as well. Also it's definite that Chobits and Angelic Layer are both in the same universe since they crossover and it's possible they are in with the others as well (nothing says they don't).
Tokyo Babylon/X I was never sure about since it means that the other stories would have to take place before 1999 or they spoil the ending for X (since the world hasn't been destroyed) and Kamui wins (as if that was going to be any doubt).
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It's the end of the world thing that does it for me! Like you said, it means that Holic would have to take place before 1999 (in fact, 1991 since she mentions Hokuto). Unless the end of the world passes with some sort of 'make everyone forget and make everything better' spell which would really ruin the series. Otherwise I think someone would have mentioned all those earthquakes that happened a few years ago-and don't forget Tokyo flooding. But then, I suppose it could be a few years after the end of the world and it has taken civilisation a while to get back to normal (hence no huge advances). But that sort of thinking can give me a headache.
Does X class as a fantasy? That might mean it's exempt. It doesn't mean that they can't use characters and elements from the X/TB universe but I don't think the plots can align.
The things that definately appear in the same (Holic) universe are: Holic, Legal Drug, Suki Dakara Suki, CCS. Possibly in the same world are CCD/Duklyon/20Faces (Watanuki has visited Duklyon cafe), X/TB (either before or after the end of the world), Angelic Layer (Piffle Princess has featured-the hair clips Watanuki gave the Zarashi-warashi(sp) were from Piffle Princess) and Chobits (in a future timeline). I suppose Wish could slot into the same universe with little problems, Rayearth too (as most of the actual story takes place in another world). That leaves Clover (which could be another future storyline), RG Veda (which is excempt as a fantasy series and is probably why they are used so much in Tsubasa), and the historical mangasands ones that I can't remember the names of (that Chun Hyan one, the Dragon King one etc). Oh, Miyuki-chan in Wonderland is pretty inocculous as, again, most of the 'plot' (not that there is a plot!) takes place in other worlds. That could slot into Tokyo too.
For the 'possible' ones the CCD universe is the same as the X/TB universe. The Chobits universe is the future of the Angelic Layer universe. The second can slot into the Holic world pretty easily but the first has some headaches surrounding it (but any of the elements can easily be used, it's just aligning the plots that breaks you).
This got so far off topic it's not worth mentioning!
Jeannette:
Well, X/TB definitely take place in the same universe as the three CLAMP Gakuen series, since Nokoru, Suoh, and Akira all show up in X, and the X characters go to CLAMP Gakuen. (Which would then date CGT as before Tokyo Babylon, since Nokoru, Suoh, and Akira are somewhere about the same age as Subaru. @_@)) Also, Piffle Princess merchandise shows up in X. I read that bit about 'fantasy,' too, so I assume then that what they meant was any series not set in a modern, recognizable Tokyo, since so many of their series have a fantasy element. This to me means that RG Veda, Clover, Legend of Chunyan, and Shirahime-Sho would be the series that don't take place in the same universe as the others. And X does cause the most problems,with all of the earthquakes, death, and destruction that take place in it? That would certainly cause problems for the other characters in the other series. I guess we'll just have to assume X does take place in the same world, and wait for the end of X. But it would be lame for there to be some spell to make everyone forget what happened at the end of X. Though it's an interesting thought that perhaps part of the reason there are so many persocoms in Chobits is because so many people died in the X storyline.
Capella:
It's all contradictory anyway, since the characters in Duklyon watched a movie of X, at time which would have been before X had ever taken place. So perhaps it's best not to consider the crossovers too deeply.
Rekall:
Well since X was in 1999 and if xxxHolic took place in modern day it would be around 5 years later so it's possible that they simply rebuild and have moved on.
Also I just re-read when Subaru and Hokuto get mentioned in Holic and Yuuko said she knew them when they were kids so it probably doesn't take place before TB. She also says he hopes he can be happy but has to create his own happiness so it seems to me that Holic either takes place between TB and X or takes place after X. I get the impression that it's the latter.
augustserenade:
I just finished watching episode 16 of X, and...
Show contentby the end of it I was crying. This was the episode where Subaru kills Seishirou. Throughout the later half of the episode, I was on the verge of tears, but when they showed the picture at the end of Sei-chan, Subaru, and Hokuto-chan, I gave in. It was just so sad. ;__;
I'm liking X TV so far. It's been too long since I've seen the movie, so I can't compare...
--- Quote from: Rekall on July 05 2006, 12:35 am ---She also says he hopes he can be happy but has to create his own happiness so it seems to me that Holic either takes place between TB and X or takes place after X. I get the impression that it's the latter.
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I also think it's the latter. But this whole thing is just so confusing. Hopefully it'll clear up when Clamp ends X. o_o
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